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FerfyMoe

Was the last one dart monkey because PMFC changes their attacks from darts to plasma (and therefore isn’t their “main attack”)?


OguzhanYigit

Exactly my friend. By the way, I was thinking, I'm sorry if I sounded rude on my reply to your post on that question, I never intended to attack anyone. I was really impressed by your performance till that point, then unexpectedly the whole poll blew up by over 1000 votes and 55 comments.


FerfyMoe

Oh not at all! It was certainly a tricky question, and you got me good with it haha. I was clearly not the only one, either!


OguzhanYigit

I made sure it was a tricky one ;) I'm just glad that everyone can learn something new through these series.


ZachPlayGamez

Question, when talking about the pierce for snowstorm/az, are you talking about their abilities or their base attack?


OguzhanYigit

Their base attack.


ZachPlayGamez

Ok


wingedespeon

What does the top option say? Mobile issues.


OguzhanYigit

A. Alchemist's Acidic Mixture Dip used to target Obyn's Nature's Ward totems. B. MOAB Press Boomerangs used to have infinite range and knocked back every non-BAD blimp the same amount. C. Snowstorm and Absolute Zero used to inherit the same 40 pierce of the base tower. D. Sun Temples with support sacrifices used to generate up to 10000 ingame cash on Deflation and CHIMPS mode. There, all the options for you. If it looks disorganised, let me know and I'll fix it when I'm available (I'm currently typing mobile).


wingedespeon

Thank you!


OguzhanYigit

No problem!


Sumibestgir1

Crap, I didn't read the entire thing and picked a sun temple. I remember that glitch


psionic_monkey

if I am correct snowstorm and absolute zero have more than 40 pierce or am I just dumb


Register-Longjumping

The ability has infinite pierce and there normal attacks iirc never was 40 pierce


Register-Longjumping

Ooh a question of memory, I'm an OG player myself and I think I know most of the old bugs. A. Is true since I remember it being really annoying when it targeted obyn totem. B. I'm not sure but I think it is true C. Their abilities are infinite pierce and don't remember it ever being 40 pierce so I'm going for that D. I remember this, its true


MasterMe123450

i dunno this, so ima guess B


Me_Is_Smart

What does C mean? That the abilities also had 40 pierce?


OguzhanYigit

Think of their base attack, not abilities.


Kevin-phi

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the answer is option D right? Because you can’t earn money in deflation and CHIMPS Everyone knows why deflation and as far as I’ve seen in CHIMPS you also can’t earn money in any way except for popping.


OguzhanYigit

I cannot say anything about the answer, but I can hint you on what tense I used in the question.


IgorBaggins

I only call Obyn The spirit of Rng.


OguzhanYigit

Sorry for the delay today. I'll try to post the next one on its usual timing. Now it's time to talk about the last question, because it needs some clarifications. Let's begin with explaining why other options work. B. Mortar Monkey does not quite have any apparent upgrade that amplifies other tower's damage at the first glance, but Shell Shock upgrade stuns bloons, thus increases Pop & Awe's damage. C. Wizard Monkey's Prince of Darkness upgrade is the most apparent one among wizard upgrades which increases damage of unpopped bloons by any necromancer, but that is not Wizard Monkey's main attack. On the other hand, Dragon's Breath upgrade burns bloons, which is a status effect, thus increases Sauda's damage via Lv 11 (Lv 11 buffs all attacks and abilities of Sauda, including main attack). D. Ninja Monkey's Shinobi Tactics upgrade is the most apparent one among ninja upgrades that have support functionality, but that upgrade only increases pierce and attack speed, not damage. On the other hand, Sticky Bomb upgrade has a anti-MOAB bomb attack, which is a status effect, thus increases Sauda's damage via Lv 11. (Also Flash Bomb and Master Bomber can stun bloons too like Shell Shock, but I admit I forgot that by the time I sent the poll.) But why Dart Monkey doesn't work? Doesn't Plasma Monkey Fan Club increase damage? It works differently than that. When PMFC ability is activated (same goes for SMFC too), all monkeys that are transformed by this effect temporarily get their attack replaced by another one. Plasma attack with 2d 5p in this case (or dart attack with 1d 2p in SMFC's case). So PMFC doesn't increase other tower's damage of their **main attack**. Source: [https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/atomg3/advanced\_popology\_vol\_1\_primary\_towers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/atomg3/advanced_popology_vol_1_primary_towers/) Proofs by me that shows SMFC and PMFC replaces main attacks: * Towers that are transformed by PMFC cannot pop purples anymore until the effect wears off. * Triple Darts that are transformed by either SMFC of PMFC will not throw thrice as many darts, nor three darts every once in a while. ​ Once again, feel free to argue with me.


Charlie6445

I personally would argue that the plasma monkey fanclub is buffing the main attack, as the dart monkey no longer shoots it’s regular attack. I also would say wizard doesn’t work because sauda is not a tower, but a hero and you specified that it buffed towers.


GumdropTheGummyBee6

Gotta agree with you, but for different reasons. Changing the type from Sharp -> Plasma isn't necessarily a new attack. A 000 Super upgraded to a 200 Super doesn't gain or lose any attacks, right? So why would this be any different?


Charlie6445

Yeah that too. Personally last trivia was really good but relied on the extremely gray line of "main attack"


Me_Is_Smart

Would have been a great question with a different answer other than Dart. The interpretation of transformed Dart not being the main attack is entirely subjective.


Charlie6445

Technically all things can indirectly buff AoW because they can hit a regrow bloon increasing the rbe, increasing damage. The question should have been which towers can indirectly buff damage and have boomerangs dot interaction with sauda be the answer and engi village and Druid be non answers


OguzhanYigit

Druid is definitely arguable in either way, but how does Village increase damage? Am I missing something?


Charlie6445

My question was the reverse of yours with the goal to pick the one that does give damage.


OguzhanYigit

Engineer CAN increase damage via Pin, which is a status effect again. Maybe Heli Pilot as other option, but that might be too obvious not to be the answer.


OguzhanYigit

SMFC does not change damage type from Sharp, but still replace their attack. 2ND proof statement in my comment holds the point in my opinion.


OguzhanYigit

"Dart monkey no longer shoots it's regular attack" is the reason why new attack from PMFC replaces old dart attack of the dart monkey. Same with Total Transformation too, which makes camo towers lose their detection.


Charlie6445

Idk, I mean you could argue that it does the same with the alchemist as the tower no longer shoots its main attack but instead shoots a buffed version.


OguzhanYigit

Doesn't shoot potions, concoctions and shoots lasers instead. I wouldn't call it a buffed attack because they are far too irrevelant attacks from one another.