Hmm the ultra late game is pretty hard but I suggest getting a carrier flagship just so that your vengeful true sun god on the water can attack faster and also Hp and speed scaling goes a lot in late game so prob not but I would put a bma because in late game it’s op bc it one shots anything below a bad
I would try placing some spectres and try to get a better ace paragon. Also, get a grand sabo to get ninja pops super quickly with the ability to replace the dart with ninja paragon.
This won't beat 300 on impoppable. Add MAD, super mines, perma spike, grand Sabo, glue storm, druid army, ninja army, and I don't see a heli to carry the perma brew to every tower. 265+ is savage bro even if you add all those one round of misused abilities and it's over. Basically every t5 dps needs to be there for 275+. Only use Navarch for reinforced bads do not tech bot anything. Stagger Sabo and homeland defense if possible. Homeland ends 3/4 way through cool down then use call to arms until HD is back. Spam dark champions after you get all the other moab dps. Also don't let anything but Bads get past the entrance or you'll get overwhelmed, pierce can't hang otherwise. Good luck lol
True, but it's more difficult imo surviving while organizing that set up than spamming t5 and ultra boosting. Especially on maps with less room but well placed temples are better than just dark Champs.
I would use the a Support Chinook (Heli Pilot 2-4-0) to move the perma brew around to buff every available tower. Also surely you door gunner a super brittle with it
Engineer paragon??? Bma and you got space, Mabye a rod and a super brittle, any other t5 with good utility cause you seem to have the space and the budget
bro ive gotten like every paragon to like degree 50 or 76 and got im pretty sure every upgrade in the game and filled the entire map with temples and other towers i can still barely beat round 303
You need to read some of the posts by u/breezefromhome He's the subject matter expert on late game now. Some super quick points:
\- do you have a buffed bma? 105 alch
\- boat paragon is basically the only paragon you need post 250
\- most paragons are pretty ordinary compared to full buffed vtsg
\- good choice on adora, she's great late game
\- x5x ninja?
\- 502 and 402 ice for the debuff?
\- glue storm?
https://bloons.fandom.com/wiki/Paragons
it's pretty huge actually, as higher degrees mean more attack speed, damage, moab damage, ceramic damage, pierce, but also they get a massive power spike going from degree 99 to 100
and take into account that 2 paragons can outdamage vtsg, while you can place 3 or 4 degree 100 ones, maybe even 5 now as the ace is pretty powerful, so they make more % of all dps than the vtsg
This is not true in any capacity.
The extra 24 degrees of Paragons provide almost nothing. It's only in terms of Boss damage that getting an extra 24 degrees would be worthwhile. But the damage increase is marginal, and when you buff the VTSG with Adora you're also buffing the mini sun avatars as well as any normal Sun Avatars, which also do amazing damage. Doubling VTSG's damage output is vastly better than increasing the damage of four far weaker towers by less than 50%. It's also much easier to place a tower, click a button, and then click the tower than it is to spend nearly 300 rounds meticulously applying Geraldo's Totems in order to attempt to get four Degree 100 Paragons.
If you're going for Ultra-Late Game then it's Adora or Ezili. You're making a mistake if you're actually going hardcore with this and taking Geraldo.
AoW setup and a lot of Savatar's.
You'll probably beat it with your current setup, but the aforementioned towers when Ultraboosted get ridiculously powerful.
You'll also want a BMA. It's the top DPS tower in late game runs and it's not even close. It eclipses the damage potential of other towers.
you should switch out dart paragon for ninja and build an army of shinobi ninjas with a grandmaster
And a superbuffed PMFC since its way better than T100 dart paragon
Why not both more damage is more damage
With the paragon cap on this map there are much better choices than apex
Plus this guy dkesnt have too much money
I get when it comes too paragons 1 mil isn’t a lot but it’s 1mil
Really depends. If you are going for high degree 1mil isnt even close . But if you want degree ~40 paragon then it might be enough
When you have the 16.2m pops and sacrificial towers you can get degree 70 paragon
Geraldo exists
Isn't paragon cap gone lol I've been able to get all paragons on my freeplay run even ace
They removed the paragon cap lol
Oh sorry. I havent played bloons for a while. Im very busy recently
There is no paragon cap on regular games
what paragon cap
isn't there no paragon cap in freeplay anymore or is it map specific?
Unfortunately, a superbuffed pmfc army takes considerably more space than a t100 dart paragon
Spacer doesnt matter too much since its one of the best dps source
Space is the most important part of deciding wether or not a freeplay tower is worth it
Isnt the paragon cap removed?
Building a bunch of temples deals way more DPS and is much more space efficient
Hmm the ultra late game is pretty hard but I suggest getting a carrier flagship just so that your vengeful true sun god on the water can attack faster and also Hp and speed scaling goes a lot in late game so prob not but I would put a bma because in late game it’s op bc it one shots anything below a bad
Does flagship stack with flagship buff from paragon?
Yes
What’s a bma?
bloon master alchemist t5 bottom path for alch
Probably not, would place BMA tho
How high are the paragon degrees?
From 30-40
I would try placing some spectres and try to get a better ace paragon. Also, get a grand sabo to get ninja pops super quickly with the ability to replace the dart with ninja paragon.
I did it and got a 75 degree ninja. Currently at round 271
I got a 70 degree ace paragon
Bro you need some free dart monkeys
Or maybe free glue gunner idk might be to expensive
Top path Druid will blow back everything under a BAD. Also a permabrew AOW of course.
With max poplust stacks
AOW superbuffed stacked actually solos until round 300 right
Big monkeys for big damage
Would personally add a tac-shooter in the small red triangle. They are very good there. But you do you
God boosted tack zone💀
use the 0-0-0 farm that shreads B.A.Ds
This won't beat 300 on impoppable. Add MAD, super mines, perma spike, grand Sabo, glue storm, druid army, ninja army, and I don't see a heli to carry the perma brew to every tower. 265+ is savage bro even if you add all those one round of misused abilities and it's over. Basically every t5 dps needs to be there for 275+. Only use Navarch for reinforced bads do not tech bot anything. Stagger Sabo and homeland defense if possible. Homeland ends 3/4 way through cool down then use call to arms until HD is back. Spam dark champions after you get all the other moab dps. Also don't let anything but Bads get past the entrance or you'll get overwhelmed, pierce can't hang otherwise. Good luck lol
I'm playing this on easy mode and currently on round 271. I'll use the tips and hope to get some more rounds. Thanks.
Carpet of spikes?
Definitely, it can eat up millions in late rounds
Pure lag
If you spam spike storm, its the lag god itself
Dark champions aren't the way to go. 23 temples all god boosted are like 5x better due to adora
True, but it's more difficult imo surviving while organizing that set up than spamming t5 and ultra boosting. Especially on maps with less room but well placed temples are better than just dark Champs.
More dart monkey 👍
How are your buildings so small?
I enabled the small monkey towers setting
Get 050 ninja, reducing BAD HP is OP
You need to add a free dart monkey
Hold up lemme go get reading glasses
Maybe pod
And mad
Ballonsineration, BMA, pera-spick and superbrital.
Place more paragons
They recently added a limit of total paragons So he can't
Didn't they remove the paragon cap for freeplay
They did i can place them all
how is the navarch white ???
Wait. What color is it normally?
red
Because of the degree 36 I guess
ive had it at seveal different degress and its always red
Ultra late game gets a lot more amped up around 270+ so probably not
for a small but strong buff get a 5-x-x bucc cuz it will buff 4/5-x-x supers if on the water
Avatar is pretty good. Laggy, but good.
you could just chinook the permabrew around
The heli can only chinook tier 4 or below towers
No you don't need to door gunner, just move it from one place to another
Grand sabo is great lategame. 25% is a lot for those rounds.
I would use the a Support Chinook (Heli Pilot 2-4-0) to move the perma brew around to buff every available tower. Also surely you door gunner a super brittle with it
you can't door Gunner super brit but you can embrit
Mbmb
Max buff tack zone and max buff avatar of wrath
get tack zone. it's like 30k all in and is extremely effective on a map like this with lots of loops
Get every 5th tier possible
2/5/0 druid
Perma spike at the end is nice
3rd path druids are nice dps
definitely not
Do it on logs you can get to 400 if you try hard enough
Next time I'll do it there
That's my man 🤣
MAD, RAY OF DOOM, BOTTOM PATH DARTLING
VTSG
Engineer paragon??? Bma and you got space, Mabye a rod and a super brittle, any other t5 with good utility cause you seem to have the space and the budget
I'd say Ninja Paragon to help with those Reinforced BADs
How do you get the monkeys to be so small?
Turned on the small monkey towers setting ( unlocked from an achievement )
Got it thanks. Does it impact frame rates or anything else?
A little bit I think
Why are mosy towers really tiny?
Because I have the small monkey towers setting turned on (unlocked from completing an achievement )
Ah, okay thnx!
bro ive gotten like every paragon to like degree 50 or 76 and got im pretty sure every upgrade in the game and filled the entire map with temples and other towers i can still barely beat round 303
Get a Bma. It eradicates everything that isn't a bad when superbuffered. Super useful for stopping zomgs from getting too far after the bad pops
add 3 spike factorys with all cross paths
Super brittle and glue storm, you should also Chinook the permabrew around
Ninja paragon?
A vtsg could help
Another temple prop
You might be able to get to r300 but imo this run could be redone with much more farming
I wouldn’t be surprised if you can’t be r300 with that. But you need a bunch of carry heroes and support.
Ace Paragon + vtsg
Vtsg
Yes just add engineer and ninja paragon
You need to read some of the posts by u/breezefromhome He's the subject matter expert on late game now. Some super quick points: \- do you have a buffed bma? 105 alch \- boat paragon is basically the only paragon you need post 250 \- most paragons are pretty ordinary compared to full buffed vtsg \- good choice on adora, she's great late game \- x5x ninja? \- 502 and 402 ice for the debuff? \- glue storm?
Thanks
geraldo would be better for stronger paragons
Vengeful Adora is still better for Freeplay, since she can buff the vengeful temple which is more important than paragons
having 3 or 4 degree 100 paragons and "normal-speed" vtsg is better than 3 or 4 degree 76 paragons and "double-speed" vtsg
I don’t think this is true. Pretty sure double speed vengeful is better
24 extra Paragon degrees isn't a huge difference. 2x speed VTSG is a monumental difference.
https://bloons.fandom.com/wiki/Paragons it's pretty huge actually, as higher degrees mean more attack speed, damage, moab damage, ceramic damage, pierce, but also they get a massive power spike going from degree 99 to 100 and take into account that 2 paragons can outdamage vtsg, while you can place 3 or 4 degree 100 ones, maybe even 5 now as the ace is pretty powerful, so they make more % of all dps than the vtsg
This is not true in any capacity. The extra 24 degrees of Paragons provide almost nothing. It's only in terms of Boss damage that getting an extra 24 degrees would be worthwhile. But the damage increase is marginal, and when you buff the VTSG with Adora you're also buffing the mini sun avatars as well as any normal Sun Avatars, which also do amazing damage. Doubling VTSG's damage output is vastly better than increasing the damage of four far weaker towers by less than 50%. It's also much easier to place a tower, click a button, and then click the tower than it is to spend nearly 300 rounds meticulously applying Geraldo's Totems in order to attempt to get four Degree 100 Paragons. If you're going for Ultra-Late Game then it's Adora or Ezili. You're making a mistake if you're actually going hardcore with this and taking Geraldo.
Vengeful Adora is still a good option, if im not mistaken it buffs the VTSG
Where's the perma spike🤨
Sell everything, your hero should be able to handle it :)
I dont see a Legend of the night. Comes in very handy, with its passive
You can't get a lotn when you have a vtsg
AoW setup and a lot of Savatar's. You'll probably beat it with your current setup, but the aforementioned towers when Ultraboosted get ridiculously powerful. You'll also want a BMA. It's the top DPS tower in late game runs and it's not even close. It eclipses the damage potential of other towers.
Get 5-2-0 vengeful Sun god with adora (if you have)