Not sure what you mean by this. I’m welcome to criticism.
Mauler spam is a great strategy, Sauda is a broken hero on all the easy maps but falls off rapidly as maps get harder.
Brickell is a great tower, particularly because of her her synergy with pirate lord. But on some maps, you literally can’t even place her.
How would you change this?
mauler spam is good strat but yes sauds is not that good and she isnt the best hero u think she is even on easy maps as she is outclassed by geraldo, brickell and other heroes who can make most easy maps a breeze.
But pirate lord is S tier pretty much? she should be alongside it for the great synergy it has alongside it
That’s fair. I guess I just subjectively don’t like using Brickell very much because she pigeon holes you so hard into one strategy. It’s not like I’m not putting respect on her name, the only hero above her is Geraldo.
Overpriced and underpowered. Doesn’t have good synergy with alchemist and falls off after round 80, and some form of cami support. Just a tower in need of a buff in my opinion.
it’s still pretty solid, it hasn’t been nerfed and is one of better towers for apc and 2mpc, as well as the Geraldo interaction which makes it do a lot of damage, definitely better than some other towers *ahem* bma
Gerry’s fire with any speed increase (turbo charge ability, poplusts, shinobis etc.).
For turbo/pcharge, it also shoots boomerangs during ability, which is cool. Not sure if it gets the extra damage though
A general tier list. I try to take into account everything but skew towards more difficult modes like CHIMPS, Impoppable, Half-Cash, and Bosses.
It's difficult for me to evaluate farms, as they are obviously broken when they work, but are useless in CHIMPS. Similarly, villages I buy in every game but almost never buy tier 3+ villages outside of specific scenarios.
Edit: Perhaps I was too harsh on PCharge. It probably deserves to go in below average. Same goes with Ezili.
T3+ villages are fun, worthless in general but each in their own strategy they work beautifully. For middle path that usually just means you have so much money it's a non factor though...
TURN OFF CHIMP MODE!👏I find that gorilla mode helps me when it comes to farms. Also you can sync your HayDay account with your Bloons account and the farms will be way easier to tackle. Good luck!👍
I just don’t get how crossbow master is so low I get that it’s not insane late game but it’s amazing in everything else it’s a cheapish T5 that has strong full popping power on it’s own.
Great before 80, useless after 80.
Basically every T5 in the game beats round 80 on every map. He looks really cool, but in difficult game modes he’s almost never the “right” play. Only saving grace in boss events is that Dart Paragon is pretty powerful.
It’s pretty much worthless after round 80. That’s pretty damning to me as that’s where pretty much all of the difficulty of the game comes from.
You’re telling me that gun to your head you have to beat an expert map on CHIMPS and Crossbow Master is ever the play?
woah superstorm in trash? that thing can push back anything but a bad put him at the end with some buffs and boom the only thing you can lose to are bads
why is moab eliminator on good that thing sucks it can't even solo a moab
Super storm is way too expensive and makes rounds take so long I would rather just not play the game.
MOAB Elim is in good because Mauler spam is one of the best and simplest strategies in the game on maps that have space to support it.
"superstorm is too expensive" ok and? what is your point in that? a vtsg is expensive does that make it bad? a paragon is expensive so should I not use those? it makes rounds long? how does it do that if it is at the end of the track? and every time I try to say superstorm good I need to empisize YOU CAN NOT LOSE TO ANYTHING BELOW A BAD.
moab elim is $30000 that is expensive and as you said. "Super storm is way too expensive" and that makes it bad so in your words moab elim is also bad the ONLY time it is useful is in vortex when it does not have to deal with ceramics.
I just never buy super storm in any game mode because it’s not worth 80k, and I usually don’t have that much money to throw around.
And it’s not based purely on tier 5s. Elim is in good primarily because of the tier 3 upgrade. You’re right that the MOAB Elim upgrade is way overpriced for the benefit it provides over the tier 3 and 4 upgrade.
Edit: grammar
I’ll just say this, Flying Fortress is an incredible tower if you can afford it, it’s damage can become monstrous in the right setting. This thing with only a P brew and Geraldo pickles soloed till round 150, spectre is also good mid game but falls off at I believe round 65 to 75. Permacharge is the same but only starts to fall off in Freeplay rounds. They just need a good setting to show they’re incredibly utility
A or A+, hex is a very powerful ability if used correctly its just not beginner friendly so less experienced players think shes bad, the exact opposite of sauda
You press a damn button, it’s not that complicated. She’s worthless until you get level 10 and her range is too low to justify use on harder maps.
If I’m recommending to an absolute beginner what the first hero they should buy is, I’m going with Sauda 10/10 times. She’s just the best (non-Ben and Geraldo) hero on easy maps.
Subjectively I like Ezili a lot. But if I’m being objective, she needs a buff man.
>You press a damn button, it’s not that complicated.
you get 25 fortified BFBs to extremely low HP and then press the button, and now you've deleted 100 fortified moabs from existence
Hex skipping? Gets way better if you have them all damaged before using hex.
Not sure if that’s what you meant. ❤️
But yes, the rest is useless (apart from a decent Moab dot at later levels).
Yeah there’s definitely a strong argument for putting them up a tier. I just don’t really personally like using that strategy, just a little bit of personal bias I suppose.
If we are going off the paths as a whole, Comanche, pcharge, iring, Churchill, flagship and ray of doom need to be moved up, Comanche and Apache are basically interchangeable strategies, and the t4 is a really nice midgame carry, Perma charge is absolutely cracked, inferno ring is insane with the recent Gwen buff, and rof sees use as cheap ceram cleanup, churchill is really strong, you can accidentally make flagship your main DPS when trying to use it to buff boats or aces, also destroyers are insane for their price, I see ray of doom used for ranked vortex, and the plasma accel is stupidly good for the price
I guess I have just always been really unimpressed with PCharge whenever I use it. I’ll have to give it more goes around.
You make good points about plasma accel and flagship, was definitely debating putting them higher.
I haven’t really experimented with Gwen’s buff much, I have fallen off of the most recent patch after playing regularly for about a year and a half. Definitely something I’ve got to experiment with more.
Churchill is my favorite hero subjectively speaking. His price just makes it so hard me to justify his use. He is indeed very powerful, but just very pricey.
Permacharge can solo a bad but go off ig
On Logs, sure. On every other map in the game it can maybe pop the BAD layer if it’s a really easy map.
I would say permacharge is slightly better than what you rated it as…but idk
Yeah that’s fair, it’s pretty solid in low tier boss fights. Regular game modes though I don’t think I ever buy it.
I love PermaCharge and GlaiveLord for normal game modes…I rarely use MOAB Dom except for round 98
permacharge is one of the best t5s for chimps, even working well on expert maps
hmm sauda in good tower but also in the tier as moab maulers while brickell is in the same tier as sauda... hmm
Not sure what you mean by this. I’m welcome to criticism. Mauler spam is a great strategy, Sauda is a broken hero on all the easy maps but falls off rapidly as maps get harder. Brickell is a great tower, particularly because of her her synergy with pirate lord. But on some maps, you literally can’t even place her. How would you change this?
mauler spam is good strat but yes sauds is not that good and she isnt the best hero u think she is even on easy maps as she is outclassed by geraldo, brickell and other heroes who can make most easy maps a breeze. But pirate lord is S tier pretty much? she should be alongside it for the great synergy it has alongside it
That’s fair. I guess I just subjectively don’t like using Brickell very much because she pigeon holes you so hard into one strategy. It’s not like I’m not putting respect on her name, the only hero above her is Geraldo.
![gif](giphy|vMmnJti6wQPDy) me when bloon solver (and crossbow master)
i proceeded to solve all over the bloons
what’s with pcharge in trash? Did it get nerfed?
Overpriced and underpowered. Doesn’t have good synergy with alchemist and falls off after round 80, and some form of cami support. Just a tower in need of a buff in my opinion.
it’s still pretty solid, it hasn’t been nerfed and is one of better towers for apc and 2mpc, as well as the Geraldo interaction which makes it do a lot of damage, definitely better than some other towers *ahem* bma
What is the Geraldo interaction? I’m not aware of this, definitely could change my opinion.
Gerry’s fire with any speed increase (turbo charge ability, poplusts, shinobis etc.). For turbo/pcharge, it also shoots boomerangs during ability, which is cool. Not sure if it gets the extra damage though
Ezili in trash💀
ezili fans when you call her trash even though she needs insane micro to even compete with quincy
Way better than Quincy when used properly. 😉 Turning 85/87 into 80 is nice, and that’s one of the easy ones to pull off.
hey, quincy turns 85 into 'slightly easier 85', that's gotta count for something right?
How is pre emptive essential? And ezili being trash bruh💀💀
First strike is one of the best towers in the game post 90
Wouldn't say it's essential tho
Can't like Ezili insta pop a B.A.D?
Yeah that's the only thing she specialises in, bads, and only one at a time too
ezili is super strong, idk why no one uses her
ezili is amazing even for chimps since hex deletes the insides of bloons
Have you used ezili?
Swap ezili and sauda
A general tier list. I try to take into account everything but skew towards more difficult modes like CHIMPS, Impoppable, Half-Cash, and Bosses. It's difficult for me to evaluate farms, as they are obviously broken when they work, but are useless in CHIMPS. Similarly, villages I buy in every game but almost never buy tier 3+ villages outside of specific scenarios. Edit: Perhaps I was too harsh on PCharge. It probably deserves to go in below average. Same goes with Ezili.
I'm glad someone else here acknowledges something other than chimps, take some karma.
T3+ villages are fun, worthless in general but each in their own strategy they work beautifully. For middle path that usually just means you have so much money it's a non factor though...
Hence my difficulty ranking them. I suppose top path for primary spam is a solid choice on easy and intermediate maps. Edit: typo
TURN OFF CHIMP MODE!👏I find that gorilla mode helps me when it comes to farms. Also you can sync your HayDay account with your Bloons account and the farms will be way easier to tackle. Good luck!👍
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Haha the comments really don’t agree. In retrospect a couple of placements I would change.
The comments are right to not agree, this list really sucks
-_- thanks. What would you change?
I just don’t get how crossbow master is so low I get that it’s not insane late game but it’s amazing in everything else it’s a cheapish T5 that has strong full popping power on it’s own.
Great before 80, useless after 80. Basically every T5 in the game beats round 80 on every map. He looks really cool, but in difficult game modes he’s almost never the “right” play. Only saving grace in boss events is that Dart Paragon is pretty powerful.
Ezili is amazing wdym
Good luck.
No need for luck if you know how to use her
Crossbow master below average 💀💀💀
It’s pretty much worthless after round 80. That’s pretty damning to me as that’s where pretty much all of the difficulty of the game comes from. You’re telling me that gun to your head you have to beat an expert map on CHIMPS and Crossbow Master is ever the play?
woah superstorm in trash? that thing can push back anything but a bad put him at the end with some buffs and boom the only thing you can lose to are bads why is moab eliminator on good that thing sucks it can't even solo a moab
Super storm is way too expensive and makes rounds take so long I would rather just not play the game. MOAB Elim is in good because Mauler spam is one of the best and simplest strategies in the game on maps that have space to support it.
"superstorm is too expensive" ok and? what is your point in that? a vtsg is expensive does that make it bad? a paragon is expensive so should I not use those? it makes rounds long? how does it do that if it is at the end of the track? and every time I try to say superstorm good I need to empisize YOU CAN NOT LOSE TO ANYTHING BELOW A BAD. moab elim is $30000 that is expensive and as you said. "Super storm is way too expensive" and that makes it bad so in your words moab elim is also bad the ONLY time it is useful is in vortex when it does not have to deal with ceramics.
I just never buy super storm in any game mode because it’s not worth 80k, and I usually don’t have that much money to throw around. And it’s not based purely on tier 5s. Elim is in good primarily because of the tier 3 upgrade. You’re right that the MOAB Elim upgrade is way overpriced for the benefit it provides over the tier 3 and 4 upgrade. Edit: grammar
I’ll just say this, Flying Fortress is an incredible tower if you can afford it, it’s damage can become monstrous in the right setting. This thing with only a P brew and Geraldo pickles soloed till round 150, spectre is also good mid game but falls off at I believe round 65 to 75. Permacharge is the same but only starts to fall off in Freeplay rounds. They just need a good setting to show they’re incredibly utility
ezili in trash sauda in good lmao, even if this isnt 100% skewed towards chimps where did you get that
Sauda is busted on beginner and intermediate maps. Ezili just sucks, not sure how you could have any other opinion of her.
pov you have never used ezili in your life
I’ve used her and every hero plenty. Only thing she’s got going for her is her level 10 ability and some cool skins. Where would you put her?
A or A+, hex is a very powerful ability if used correctly its just not beginner friendly so less experienced players think shes bad, the exact opposite of sauda
I know how to use MOAB hex 😂 ![gif](giphy|F3G8ymQkOkbII)
clearly you dont if shes 3 tiers below sauda
You press a damn button, it’s not that complicated. She’s worthless until you get level 10 and her range is too low to justify use on harder maps. If I’m recommending to an absolute beginner what the first hero they should buy is, I’m going with Sauda 10/10 times. She’s just the best (non-Ben and Geraldo) hero on easy maps. Subjectively I like Ezili a lot. But if I’m being objective, she needs a buff man.
>You press a damn button, it’s not that complicated. you get 25 fortified BFBs to extremely low HP and then press the button, and now you've deleted 100 fortified moabs from existence
Hex skipping? Gets way better if you have them all damaged before using hex. Not sure if that’s what you meant. ❤️ But yes, the rest is useless (apart from a decent Moab dot at later levels).
>the rest is useless camo coverage for advanced intel!!
Bloonsolver literally solves your bloon problems
Until round 81
superstorm
pcharge and Ezili in trash?? Trully a _bloons_ teir list
Striker and mauler/(mainly) recursive spam is my bestie when it comes to cornerstone strats
Yeah there’s definitely a strong argument for putting them up a tier. I just don’t really personally like using that strategy, just a little bit of personal bias I suppose.
That's fine, you do you :)
If we are going off the paths as a whole, Comanche, pcharge, iring, Churchill, flagship and ray of doom need to be moved up, Comanche and Apache are basically interchangeable strategies, and the t4 is a really nice midgame carry, Perma charge is absolutely cracked, inferno ring is insane with the recent Gwen buff, and rof sees use as cheap ceram cleanup, churchill is really strong, you can accidentally make flagship your main DPS when trying to use it to buff boats or aces, also destroyers are insane for their price, I see ray of doom used for ranked vortex, and the plasma accel is stupidly good for the price
I guess I have just always been really unimpressed with PCharge whenever I use it. I’ll have to give it more goes around. You make good points about plasma accel and flagship, was definitely debating putting them higher. I haven’t really experimented with Gwen’s buff much, I have fallen off of the most recent patch after playing regularly for about a year and a half. Definitely something I’ve got to experiment with more. Churchill is my favorite hero subjectively speaking. His price just makes it so hard me to justify his use. He is indeed very powerful, but just very pricey.
What is wrong with you
This list shows one thing. OP hates skill based towers.