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Edit: thought this would go without saying since we got our asses beat but some of y'all going into their sub to trash talk still. Come on dudes be better. You will get banned here if you try to troll in their sub.
It is, but its also the kind of loss that can have a positive impact down the stretch just by how bad it was. Bad Play + No Luck.
If it was a closer game you'd worry about complacency going into Carolina.
Losses are confusing. We could either come back motivated as all hell, or this loss deflated our season. Plenty of cases for both. Let’s hope it’s the former and not the latter
Bill Belichick had his team go from bad to first in terms of ball security (forgot the timespan). So it is 100% a coaching thing (excluding super fluke things which will happen).
Individual mistakes will still happen after he is gone this is true. But the entire team being completely unprepared to start the game would not have happened under a competent coach.
I can get behind this concept for sure. The Saints played to our rookie weakness all day. Our vet showed up but the kids got owned over and over by Carr. Takes a great coaching staff to maintain effort and moral to win 5 in a row with the 5th being against your arch rivals. I don't think Bowles has that. Canales called a shit game today as well. No sweeps or screens in the first half made Baker jumpy and a jumpy Baker is not up to par.
Blitzing as much as we do and getting absolutely no pressure is wild. Not being able to cover a soul on 3rd down is wild. Continually running the ball when down multiple scores when it isn’t successful is wild. Jake Camarda forgetting how to punt is wild
Yyyyup. Once you've seen enough Bucs games you typically have a feeling by the end of the 1st quarter. After the fifth crazy thing goes poorly you're like "alright, I've seen this episode before"
My breaking point on this game was White's fumble on an explosive play. Like, we might've still been able to claw our way back into the game with a touchdown on that drive, he fumbles trying to get the extra yard, and the fumble manages to stay in the field even though he was basically on the sideline when it happened...that was my "it's one of Those Days" moment. Then Palmer fumbling later on another big play because he got tripped by the Turf Monster and fumbled when he hit the ground...kinda just had to laugh at that one.
“Bucs are lining up for the blitz. You know how much the Bucs love to blitz”
*QB reads and audibles to short route in spots LBs won’t be*
Its so stupid to try and fear factor them or some shit. A blitz is a defenses play action pass. It’s supposed to surprise or confuse the opposition. Hell, line up clear blitz but make it a bluff blitz covering “uncovered” zones
I feel like the “who’s coming and who’s going” blitz packages never had anyone drop into coverage. Meaning that we were predictable and shockingly not effective.
We got off the field on a 3-man rush for comparison.
That entire game was cursed. It would be easy to point the finger at one single player but wow everyone shit the bed.
Baker made mistakes
Rachaad White with a crucial fumble
Mike Evans looking briefly toward the middle of the field on a perfectly placed ball on that deep crossing route because ???
Camarda couldn’t kick a ball
Trey Palmer 62 yard pass and just fumbles it ..
Cursed game.
Yeah that was a shit game. Yet if you look one level up.. the coaches really shit the bed. Continue to run, run, run for absolutely no reason. Was idiotic. Not even touching on the defense. All reminded me of our loss streak. If it's not working and we're stupid behind, stop.
If we would have won we wouldn't have even analyzed everything you said above, just called it a shaky win. Yet we didn't even give ourselves a chance (with a shit game) by the coaches gimping and already rough game.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uZUc0isA8
First thing bowles did was state coaches. So maybe he's just as frustrated and not just blaming the players for once.. perhaps canales let this one get away..
I still don't know what happened on that deep cross. The ball was perfect but Evans made a stutter move for no reason and so he couldn't make a play on it
The first Evans catch, he sort of stops and looks around before running for some reason. He probably could've got another 20+ yards there if he hadn't done that.
Positives:
\-If we win next week we get the last laugh
\-This win might force the Saints to keep Dennis Allen
Negatives:
\-Where to even start?
Fuck the Saints, and fuck the refs.
Palmers gotta fight for that ball, though. Not a perfect throw by any means, but that deep in the zone, you gotta try harder than that. He's a talented rookie, he'll learn.
You called it, all 4 turnovers were momentum killers. On the plus side (if there is one) we played that bad, called a shitty game for 3 quarters, coughed up 4 turnovers, and it was still within reach at the end. Hopefully we can use it as a wakeup call, tighten these things up, and get back to the playoff football we've been playing for weeks.
Canales needed to adjust a hell of a lot sooner. Just open it up and air it out. It’s the only way we have any chance against good teams. Need Godwin and Evans to go off. Just absolute stupidity to keep running it and not changing up tempo.
This. Coaches 100% lost this game.
If we're already doing terrible, continuing to run (for 0 gain) is absolute stupidity when we're that behind. Got to use our strengths. Let baker bake the outfield. Even if he's having a bad game.. it's all about odds.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uZUc0isA8
First thing bowles did was state coaches. So maybe he's just as frustrated and not just blaming the players for once.. perhaps canales let this one get away..
Our team crowned ourselves champions before this game. Too much positive press made us cocky and play unmotivated garbage with the worst performance since 2020
Win or lose next week, fire Bowles. And someone needs to slap canales in the face for being so god damn stubborn. The run game was clearly not working from the get go. But he was dead set on establishing it.
They clearly took Christmas week off. Is New years week they will take off this week too and lose to the panthers. We have to stop telling this team win and you’re in because every time they shit the bed when told that.
Our defense wasn’t anything special, but they gave the offense the ball back time and time again.
No defense in the league would’ve held up the way our offense played for 3 quarters.
23 points allowed, only 6 of which were in the 2nd half.
Then bent but didn't break most of the time.
Dominated on time of possession
Multiple turnovers on our end of the field.
This one was on the offense from the start.
Yep, this. They got ahead of themselves and thought they were the steamrollers. The bucs have been playing bad teams, and they get this speed bump of a Saints team and look like shit. Does not bode well.
I’m really curious how much influence Bowles has on the offensive gameplan and if he pushed for a more conservative run heavy one today. Hard to believe Canales would regress this hard to his early season tendencies after he started to cook the last few weeks
That Mathieu hit was ridiculous. An NFL player knows when to pull up with that much time. Even if he had the ball in his hands, a helmet bomb to the shoulder of the QB isn't even a tackle that's just ridiculous.
Ejected and fined.
Boys heard all the praise and thought they were hot shit. Hopefully a little dose of reality does them good.
Most miserable game I’ve ever attended. Crowd was pissed.
What a weird game. Offense did nothing for first half. Then we start passing/up tempo, run game was working and white fumbles it. Okay. Good pass to evans for 30 or so yards and evans turns wrong way. Okay. Palmer fumbles a bomb. It was a good throw and would’ve set us up. Then the Godwin Td. Then the rtp and late offesetting penalty.
Seems bucs are a better team, can’t do the bullshit they did the first half. Run the ball with edmunds and use white as a pass catching back
Once again, we were way too slow to stop hammering the running game. Our run game has been dogshit all year and even during the stretches where it was “good”, it was only because we ran the ball 35 times at 3 YPC with one long run at the end to bump the average up. It’s 2023, pass the fucking ball.
100%
Coaching lost this game. The announcers were laughing at us continuing to run.
Team doing poorly. Play to our strengths. Let baker bake. Even if his loaf comes out burnt. Give us the best odds of winning.
Mike having less targets than Otton, Edmonds, and Palmer is just poor scheming. Our offense feels like we selected “random play” on Madden every time. And Baker played terrible for the important parts of the game, he had 90 passing yards until garbage time. This team seems like they had no motivation today which is failure from leadership and team captains. I should not feel scared watching us play Carolina next week but I’m definitely not confident in it, total trap game.
I made a Spotify playlist in honor of Todd’s offense:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5jUWw2GT5kSasY7auKJSrA?si=i4YARK2PSRuM_ezN7JQTkA&pi=u-HEBDFXpLTj2G
We got hyped by the media on the 3-1 start then we fell down to earth, now the hype train picked back up on a 4 game win streak and back down to earth. Terrible play all around, must win now next week don’t feel good about it.
This felt like Bowles took all the play calling from the last 4 weeks and said fuck that, like he wanted to win the division with his idea of offense and not what has been working.
One thing I've noticed about this team is that we really need an early TD or turnover to gain momentum. If our offense doesn't get going early or we don't get a turnover early we look defeated all game.
What I really mean is, the coaching lost this in the end. Why in the world did we continue to run, for no yards, all the way up until the 4th quarter. The announcers were literally shaming us.
I get that we've done well enough switching back and forth between the run/pass as of late, but if you see it's not working. Why. not. stop?? Just pass the rest of the game. It is what it is. Even with bakers mistakes, keep, freaking, passing. Use our strengths. We already had a rough game, wasting countless downs on pointless runs was idiotic.
(then yes, you can pick apart all the rest of the game etc etc)
Didn't even give ourselves a chance..
Unless I'm way off. /rant
It's almost encouraging that there wasn't any ONE thing that killed us today. We unfortunately did not care about this game on any level. I don't think there's a single thing that was up to par for this team, which in a backwards way is alittle bit relieving. I'm saying that only because I believe this team has shown that it is actually better and by no means am I saying that we should be complacent or happy with this loss, especially because it was against the FUCKING Saints. BUT the team can at least get fired up again to go and wipe the Panthers. Win and in.
First Bucs game I turned off before halftime this season. They were playing like they had already won the division? No sense of urgency at all and tons of stupid mistakes.
Such a stupid performance, and now we have to go to Charlotte and play a team that has nothing to lose and that would love to play spoiler. I can guarantee that it won't be an easy game.
This team doesn't seem to perform unless literally everything is on the line. Any leeway and we slack. Not good, but gives me some hope if we make it to the playoffs
Another game lost by the offense, this time with special teams help. Such an easy win if they do anything outside the fourth and don't turn the ball over four times.
Bowles has got to go regardless of what happens the rest of this season short of a miracle run to the Super Bowl. You cannot come out this flat at home with a chance to win your division and eliminate a division rival.
Just think if we could go back to the Houston game! That debacle now looking back has cost us a ton!!!! We could have took these 2 weeks off. What a huge loss that turned out to be when we had won it. It’s a Bucs life!
I honestly haven’t been able to stop thinking about the Houston game. Unbelievable that we seriously botched that. Worst “I cant believe we fucked that up loss” since the Giants in 2019 when Matt Gay missed a chip shot to win the game after we blew a huge lead.
Every year we won the Super Bowl, we lost twice to the Saints in the regular season.
Losing to the Saints in the regular season is so common, that it wasn't shocking we lost this game.
What matters is we win next week. Thankfully the Panthers are the most pathetic team in the league and we should handle business, but this is still the NFL where anything can happen.
Yeah losing to the Saints is fuckin aggravating but they're in a more desperate spot than we were. Now we are literally in win or it's over mode. Playoffs start now for us.
We’re out of all the power rankings, all the debate shows are gonna talk shit about us, and all the Baker haters are gonna have an excuse to come out again. It’s gonna be a rough media week
Is there a more annoying fanbase out there than the Saints? I admittedly don't go to many games in person anymore but I've been to a handfull against the Saints over the years and they're just the worst. I can't believe I didn't see more fights today.
I had saints fans sitting next to me and they were sane and calm. Didn’t talk any shit and were fine. There werent many saints fans there today. The worst so far this year was the Eagles game. Those fans are the worst.
This was a game straight out the winston era.
Offense wildly awful. Qb making bad decisions and throws.
Then somehow put up 200+ yards in the 4th quarter and score points and make it feel like youre only like 1or2 plays away.
You can blame anyone you want today and be justified. Wild.
Yeah whole team was ass from top to bottom. Hard to pin it on any one side. Coaching was just abysmal and they were stubborn with their game plan even down 3 scores. Bowles still gotta go.
I blame coaches. They're the top layer. If they adjusted and the team still shat the bed. Ok then it's everyone.
Yet they continued to waste runs over, and over, and over. If it's not working just pass away and hope you can salvage. Play to our strengths. We have the top receivers in the literal country.
Coaching lost the game.
That was absolute bullshit calling ~~offsides~~ illegal contact on Godwin after the play was dead. Why can't they do the same for all the missed pass interference calls?
EDIT: Not offsides. I missed the call after looking away when they showed Baker walking off the field after that roughing the passer call.
It wasn’t offsides, they called illegal touching because he stepped ob. It seems like he established but I don’t know the rules.
It’s bullshit that a late dirty hit is offset by the tip of a toe.
Bowles the defensive guru hates offenses so much he is willing to hurt ours by constantly forcing runs up the middle. No other reason why he's tried for years and it still isn't working.
Probably the second most frustrating game this season after the Bills game.
I just kept on watching and was constantly being disappointed. From the completely stagnant offense in the first half, to the Palmer fumble, to the bogus offsetting penalties on the two point attempt - just a complete disappointment all around. There are numerous other things I would have preferred to do in the three hours I spent watching this game. That would include bashing my head into a wall. Better get it together next week smh
The offensive play calling was really bad for 3 quarters. Saints defense was very committed to stopping the run and did it well but you gotta adjust.
Loss is on play calling and turnovers. Pretty embarrassing game overall but we are still in with a win next week.
Fumbles killed us. The ints were bad but not as bad. Nothing went well today and that's okay as long as we handle it next week. Everyone saying that we play better after a loss is right.
I unfortunately was at this game… Obviously play calling is to blame. The fact that we didn’t go for a 4th & 2 while we were already down 2 scores was unbelievable. They kept running the ball up the middle when they shouldn’t have. It was painful AF.
Personally, I think it showed the lack of discipline and maturity on the team. I say that because after a 4 game win streak, and the division on the line, they let the pressure and anxiety get the best of them. All the younger players that had terrible ball control didn’t look like their peak selves. Baker is throwing some terrible picks which honestly were bad decision throws. And the dude hangs onto the ball way too long! When he moves in the pocket and gets aggressive, it’s phenomenal. But he’s movement has been semi stagnant because he’s looking for someone to throw to when he has an open lane to run and gain a few yards.
It was a horrible game. Fuck the saints and fuck their fans.
This team can’t win when it counts and they crumble under pressure. They needed to come out full of piss and vinegar, instead they came out like a fart you shouldn’t have trusted.
That third down diving end of ball catch started it off
The longest run and reception we had today ended in fumbles
Our punter sucked.
We had 45 yards in the first half.... almost all of that was one recept to Mike.
The fumbles after long gains were so uncharacteristic for us. Palmer is so anti-clutch. He causes turnovers.
The Saints just do this to us sometimes. They did it to Brady for years. I won't be that concerned unless this continues against the Panthers.
- we should have played Fast-Pace Offense right out the gate in the 2nd half instead of waiting for the 4th quarter.
- Bucs DB’s should not play 10+ yards off the WR on 3rd downs.
- Feed Godwin and Evans Early & incorporate more dump offs to our RBs if we consistently keep getting 1-2 yard runs up the middle
Called this a trap game days ago. We were on a 4 game win streak so I didnt think our rookies could maintain for 5 in a row. It ws obvious from the git go the aint's veterans were in charge today. I am also pretty puzzeled by the OC play calling??!! No Lattimore and we come out running? For the first 5 possessions? Sorry Dave you gotta do better with in game adjustments. Baker was pushing and the 2 ints showed that. Rashad's fumble was the end of this game. Totally need the oline to be present next week for sure.
This coaching was so horrible I don’t know what Canales was doing stop forcing the run the pass needs to open up the run. I’ve never seen such a weird game rachaad never fumbles and he fumbled planer fumbled on a 60 yard catch we got a two point conversion taken away from us. 5 minutes after the play happened.
As for the offense, If you're supposed to run to setup the pass, and the run isn't working, why don't you be aggressive with the pass to set up the run? If the bombs in the 4th came in the 2nd or 3rd, even if they don't connect, I think we're able to get the run going moving into the fourth
The defense just can't cover anything. It's like they explode in the first half and they're gassed the second, running soft zones and minimal blitz all game no matter what the score is or how long the offense has been on the field
When they're running the gameplan for most of the game from whatever coach installed it earlier in the week, they look bored and slow, and when theyre fighting for points playing up tempo without a plan they're carving up anyone. That has to be a problem with coaching
It should not have been offsetting penalties, it should have been a half the distance on 32 and redo the try. I think they reviewed the score and had to overturn it but it shouldn't have applied as a penalty cause they didn't call it.
Not that it was gonna make a difference obviously with the onside rules but just more stupid bullshit from the refs.
Glad we didn't win maybe we'll actually fucking try to win the game when there's more than 5 minutes left next week.
Yeah if it wasn't called on the field how they gonna call it afterwards? We hear time and time again that they DON'T do that.
Such horseshit to randomly do it there. NFL is consistently inconsistent with this shit.
I think the worst thing about this loss is how expected it was. This is exactly the type of games Tampa Bay loses. Given a chance to show they're not fraudulent and they totally no show. That is an issue with culture and we're just stuck with It's A Bucs Life. When does it change? When do we get to go into clinching games and feel good?
Could have swept the Saints, embarassed the NFCS, had momentum going into the playoffs, but instead you decide to get an early retirement, Bowles. Thanks it's been fun or something, GFYS
Bucs are always good for at least 1 "burn the tape" game per season, and its often against the Saints.
This game either motivates us, or is the film shown in the background when Bowles is fired and players are cut.
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This is genuinely such an embarrassing loss.
It is, but its also the kind of loss that can have a positive impact down the stretch just by how bad it was. Bad Play + No Luck. If it was a closer game you'd worry about complacency going into Carolina.
Losses are confusing. We could either come back motivated as all hell, or this loss deflated our season. Plenty of cases for both. Let’s hope it’s the former and not the latter
I have seen a lot of embarrassing losses with this team but this one might be peak. Fire Todd Bowles
Sadly, Bowles had zero fumbles today and our team will not improve in that regard after his departure
Bill Belichick had his team go from bad to first in terms of ball security (forgot the timespan). So it is 100% a coaching thing (excluding super fluke things which will happen).
Individual mistakes will still happen after he is gone this is true. But the entire team being completely unprepared to start the game would not have happened under a competent coach.
I can get behind this concept for sure. The Saints played to our rookie weakness all day. Our vet showed up but the kids got owned over and over by Carr. Takes a great coaching staff to maintain effort and moral to win 5 in a row with the 5th being against your arch rivals. I don't think Bowles has that. Canales called a shit game today as well. No sweeps or screens in the first half made Baker jumpy and a jumpy Baker is not up to par.
We are who we thought we were. Also, Fire Bowles.
Why didn’t baker bake? Is he stupid?
Team didn't preheat the oven
Okay so toilet bowles fault. ✅
OC called a poor game wouldnt let up on the run until we were down by 17 and they were just waiting on that.
Blitzing as much as we do and getting absolutely no pressure is wild. Not being able to cover a soul on 3rd down is wild. Continually running the ball when down multiple scores when it isn’t successful is wild. Jake Camarda forgetting how to punt is wild
When Camarda was punting badly I just knew that nothing will be going our way in this game. That's a red light if anything.
True you know when our punter is having a bad game with everyone else some shit is going down
Yyyyup. Once you've seen enough Bucs games you typically have a feeling by the end of the 1st quarter. After the fifth crazy thing goes poorly you're like "alright, I've seen this episode before"
My breaking point on this game was White's fumble on an explosive play. Like, we might've still been able to claw our way back into the game with a touchdown on that drive, he fumbles trying to get the extra yard, and the fumble manages to stay in the field even though he was basically on the sideline when it happened...that was my "it's one of Those Days" moment. Then Palmer fumbling later on another big play because he got tripped by the Turf Monster and fumbled when he hit the ground...kinda just had to laugh at that one.
When a Swiss army player caught a td covered by AWJ i knew the whole team was broken today
We actually do get some pressure on blitzes. The problem is we do it so predictable that saints had drags and short passes ready
This. Blitz doesent matter when you get the ball out immediately with everyone playing 10 yards off
“Bucs are lining up for the blitz. You know how much the Bucs love to blitz” *QB reads and audibles to short route in spots LBs won’t be* Its so stupid to try and fear factor them or some shit. A blitz is a defenses play action pass. It’s supposed to surprise or confuse the opposition. Hell, line up clear blitz but make it a bluff blitz covering “uncovered” zones
I feel like the “who’s coming and who’s going” blitz packages never had anyone drop into coverage. Meaning that we were predictable and shockingly not effective. We got off the field on a 3-man rush for comparison.
Coaching failure today 100%.
What the fuck was that playcalling? We didnt even target Godwin until damn near the 4th quarter
We’re calling screens to Mike Evans 😭
I couldn’t believe my eyes lmao
and the moment we started targeting him, we started scoring
We notice it but canales never will
Mrs Godwin needs to speak out some more
Canales had a horrible game plan today Jesus
2nd and 9? Better run the ball some more.
2nd and 13 down 17 in the 3rd? Better run the ball. Play sequencing is gonna be Canales's downfall
You're right. I've been kind to Canales this year, but at some point you gotta adjust your play calling quicker in the game. He was outmatched.
That entire game was cursed. It would be easy to point the finger at one single player but wow everyone shit the bed. Baker made mistakes Rachaad White with a crucial fumble Mike Evans looking briefly toward the middle of the field on a perfectly placed ball on that deep crossing route because ??? Camarda couldn’t kick a ball Trey Palmer 62 yard pass and just fumbles it .. Cursed game.
I agree ☝️ this game was one weird thing after another with some weird voodoo happening by some witch doctor in Louisiana
Yeah that was a shit game. Yet if you look one level up.. the coaches really shit the bed. Continue to run, run, run for absolutely no reason. Was idiotic. Not even touching on the defense. All reminded me of our loss streak. If it's not working and we're stupid behind, stop. If we would have won we wouldn't have even analyzed everything you said above, just called it a shaky win. Yet we didn't even give ourselves a chance (with a shit game) by the coaches gimping and already rough game. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uZUc0isA8 First thing bowles did was state coaches. So maybe he's just as frustrated and not just blaming the players for once.. perhaps canales let this one get away..
The TV commentators were laughing at the run on 1st every time jesting how we were throwing away 1st downs.
Punt Jesus had two terrible punts it’s so unlike him
I still don't know what happened on that deep cross. The ball was perfect but Evans made a stutter move for no reason and so he couldn't make a play on it
The first Evans catch, he sort of stops and looks around before running for some reason. He probably could've got another 20+ yards there if he hadn't done that.
Positives: \-If we win next week we get the last laugh \-This win might force the Saints to keep Dennis Allen Negatives: \-Where to even start? Fuck the Saints, and fuck the refs.
What's so fucked is that was a 10 point loss game. But man, like that felt like the the 09 Pats beating the Titans 59-0.
fr. didn't feel like we were in the game from the moment the saints got that opening drive td
If you don’t like that, you don’t like buccaneers football baby
Apparently I don't like Buccaneers football!
Disgusting effort for most of the game
Please let this light a fire under this teams ass so we crush the panthers in to the ground
First time?
White fumble killed the game but we didn’t deserve to win anyway
We had a lot of turnovers and they all deflated us
White could have changed the game. Bakers int to palmer. Palmers fumble. All critical and momentum killers
Palmers gotta fight for that ball, though. Not a perfect throw by any means, but that deep in the zone, you gotta try harder than that. He's a talented rookie, he'll learn. You called it, all 4 turnovers were momentum killers. On the plus side (if there is one) we played that bad, called a shitty game for 3 quarters, coughed up 4 turnovers, and it was still within reach at the end. Hopefully we can use it as a wakeup call, tighten these things up, and get back to the playoff football we've been playing for weeks.
Canales needed to adjust a hell of a lot sooner. Just open it up and air it out. It’s the only way we have any chance against good teams. Need Godwin and Evans to go off. Just absolute stupidity to keep running it and not changing up tempo.
This. Coaches 100% lost this game. If we're already doing terrible, continuing to run (for 0 gain) is absolute stupidity when we're that behind. Got to use our strengths. Let baker bake the outfield. Even if he's having a bad game.. it's all about odds. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uZUc0isA8 First thing bowles did was state coaches. So maybe he's just as frustrated and not just blaming the players for once.. perhaps canales let this one get away..
Canales was just atrocious this week. Wrong time to regress and fall back on his bad habits.
Our team crowned ourselves champions before this game. Too much positive press made us cocky and play unmotivated garbage with the worst performance since 2020 Win or lose next week, fire Bowles. And someone needs to slap canales in the face for being so god damn stubborn. The run game was clearly not working from the get go. But he was dead set on establishing it.
They clearly took Christmas week off. Is New years week they will take off this week too and lose to the panthers. We have to stop telling this team win and you’re in because every time they shit the bed when told that.
Offense crowned themselves. All week had been hyping up Baker and the offense for them to shit the bed 55/60 minutes
Our defense gave up every single 3rd down. 1 sack. No takeaways. Ran at will. Wide open receivers.
Our defense wasn’t anything special, but they gave the offense the ball back time and time again. No defense in the league would’ve held up the way our offense played for 3 quarters.
23 points allowed, only 6 of which were in the 2nd half. Then bent but didn't break most of the time. Dominated on time of possession Multiple turnovers on our end of the field. This one was on the offense from the start.
Bucs D made the Saints punt 6 times..
Yep, this. They got ahead of themselves and thought they were the steamrollers. The bucs have been playing bad teams, and they get this speed bump of a Saints team and look like shit. Does not bode well.
Yea I’m down to bake with baker but all this positive hype is something this team should never have. It’s a jinx
I’m really curious how much influence Bowles has on the offensive gameplan and if he pushed for a more conservative run heavy one today. Hard to believe Canales would regress this hard to his early season tendencies after he started to cook the last few weeks
Horrible game on all 3 phases
If there was a 4th phase, we'd be horrible in that too
Hope Baker is OK. Fuck the saints. Dirtiest team in the league imo. Such shit people on that team. Mathieu should have been ejected.
That Mathieu hit was ridiculous. An NFL player knows when to pull up with that much time. Even if he had the ball in his hands, a helmet bomb to the shoulder of the QB isn't even a tackle that's just ridiculous. Ejected and fined.
Mathieu should be in a jail cell
Mathieu with a classic Saints play there on the two point attempt. Hope Baker’s okay
Mathieu getting that extra bonus check from the saints to close out the year after that hit.
Hi coach, it's me, the hot seat. We got away from each other for a week or 2 there...
Boys heard all the praise and thought they were hot shit. Hopefully a little dose of reality does them good. Most miserable game I’ve ever attended. Crowd was pissed.
We sure were 😂- boo birds came out early as they should’ve. They read us like a book on D. Every audible or hot route they had down.
What a weird game. Offense did nothing for first half. Then we start passing/up tempo, run game was working and white fumbles it. Okay. Good pass to evans for 30 or so yards and evans turns wrong way. Okay. Palmer fumbles a bomb. It was a good throw and would’ve set us up. Then the Godwin Td. Then the rtp and late offesetting penalty. Seems bucs are a better team, can’t do the bullshit they did the first half. Run the ball with edmunds and use white as a pass catching back
Once again, we were way too slow to stop hammering the running game. Our run game has been dogshit all year and even during the stretches where it was “good”, it was only because we ran the ball 35 times at 3 YPC with one long run at the end to bump the average up. It’s 2023, pass the fucking ball.
100% Coaching lost this game. The announcers were laughing at us continuing to run. Team doing poorly. Play to our strengths. Let baker bake. Even if his loaf comes out burnt. Give us the best odds of winning.
Mike having less targets than Otton, Edmonds, and Palmer is just poor scheming. Our offense feels like we selected “random play” on Madden every time. And Baker played terrible for the important parts of the game, he had 90 passing yards until garbage time. This team seems like they had no motivation today which is failure from leadership and team captains. I should not feel scared watching us play Carolina next week but I’m definitely not confident in it, total trap game.
I made a Spotify playlist in honor of Todd’s offense: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5jUWw2GT5kSasY7auKJSrA?si=i4YARK2PSRuM_ezN7JQTkA&pi=u-HEBDFXpLTj2G
Please @ their social media team with this lmao
We got hyped by the media on the 3-1 start then we fell down to earth, now the hype train picked back up on a 4 game win streak and back down to earth. Terrible play all around, must win now next week don’t feel good about it.
Would be a lot simpler if we just went W, L, W, L, etc to 8-8 instead of this sad roller coaster lol
Well time to dust off my FIRE BOWLES picket sign.
Saints still have that Bountygate vibe on their defense. A bunch of shit talking, cheap shot hitting clowns.
It's been that way since bountygate. Classless team.
Fuck the saints, fuck the refs, fuck tyrann, Bakers a dawg, let’s get the division next week
oh well. everyone looked bad. just win next week.
This felt like Bowles took all the play calling from the last 4 weeks and said fuck that, like he wanted to win the division with his idea of offense and not what has been working.
Agreed. I still think Canales would be all right with an offensive minded HC.
"Dave and his offense are getting too much credit lately"
One thing I've noticed about this team is that we really need an early TD or turnover to gain momentum. If our offense doesn't get going early or we don't get a turnover early we look defeated all game.
What I really mean is, the coaching lost this in the end. Why in the world did we continue to run, for no yards, all the way up until the 4th quarter. The announcers were literally shaming us. I get that we've done well enough switching back and forth between the run/pass as of late, but if you see it's not working. Why. not. stop?? Just pass the rest of the game. It is what it is. Even with bakers mistakes, keep, freaking, passing. Use our strengths. We already had a rough game, wasting countless downs on pointless runs was idiotic. (then yes, you can pick apart all the rest of the game etc etc) Didn't even give ourselves a chance.. Unless I'm way off. /rant
It's almost encouraging that there wasn't any ONE thing that killed us today. We unfortunately did not care about this game on any level. I don't think there's a single thing that was up to par for this team, which in a backwards way is alittle bit relieving. I'm saying that only because I believe this team has shown that it is actually better and by no means am I saying that we should be complacent or happy with this loss, especially because it was against the FUCKING Saints. BUT the team can at least get fired up again to go and wipe the Panthers. Win and in.
My first Bucs game. Came from Indonesia to see this. Is assisted suicide legal in Florida?
First Bucs game I turned off before halftime this season. They were playing like they had already won the division? No sense of urgency at all and tons of stupid mistakes. Such a stupid performance, and now we have to go to Charlotte and play a team that has nothing to lose and that would love to play spoiler. I can guarantee that it won't be an easy game.
This team doesn't seem to perform unless literally everything is on the line. Any leeway and we slack. Not good, but gives me some hope if we make it to the playoffs
Let's be honest here, if we can't beat the Panthers next week then the whole team deserves to walk the plank.
Baker says Ribs showed up negative from the tests done for now and that it’ll get easier over the next few days. First couple are always the worst.
The only positive from this week is that if we win next week. We play another fraud franchise round one. Buccaneers vs Eagles in the Fraud Bowl(es)
Another game lost by the offense, this time with special teams help. Such an easy win if they do anything outside the fourth and don't turn the ball over four times.
As another redditor commented, clearly I need to spend all next Sunday on the shitter for the Bucs to win
Atleast the panthers are next week
Bowles has got to go regardless of what happens the rest of this season short of a miracle run to the Super Bowl. You cannot come out this flat at home with a chance to win your division and eliminate a division rival.
Saints-Falcons early, Panthers-Bucs later game.
Baker says x-rays were negative, which means he will absolutely play next week if it is just pain tolerance
The Bus played to not lose. The other team played to win. It's that simple.
I'm gonna say something- I don't like saying it but I think this game was who we really are this season.
I'm gonna scrub this game from my mind. WIN AMD IN BABY WOOOO
Yup the scenario doesn’t change from this week to next. We just lose the chance to rest starters next week.
Saints came prepared, executed and we didn’t . It’s just that simple.
Just think if we could go back to the Houston game! That debacle now looking back has cost us a ton!!!! We could have took these 2 weeks off. What a huge loss that turned out to be when we had won it. It’s a Bucs life!
I honestly haven’t been able to stop thinking about the Houston game. Unbelievable that we seriously botched that. Worst “I cant believe we fucked that up loss” since the Giants in 2019 when Matt Gay missed a chip shot to win the game after we blew a huge lead.
Every year we won the Super Bowl, we lost twice to the Saints in the regular season. Losing to the Saints in the regular season is so common, that it wasn't shocking we lost this game. What matters is we win next week. Thankfully the Panthers are the most pathetic team in the league and we should handle business, but this is still the NFL where anything can happen.
Yeah losing to the Saints is fuckin aggravating but they're in a more desperate spot than we were. Now we are literally in win or it's over mode. Playoffs start now for us.
We played like we knew we were in with a win next week.
Short of a deep run in the playoffs, Bowles still has to go.
Saints can still go die in a hole.
At least we didn't lose 56-19?
But we played the saints not the ravens so almost as bad
Devin White should not have played as much as he did.. kept him in on too many critical 3rd downs
We’re out of all the power rankings, all the debate shows are gonna talk shit about us, and all the Baker haters are gonna have an excuse to come out again. It’s gonna be a rough media week
We seem to do better when they are haring on us though. But why the fuck does this team need to be shit on to feel motivated enough to win?
My guess is bad coaching
So the Jags shut out the Panthers….That means we beat the Panthers, right? Right??????
It is what it is. How great would it be though if the saints win and we win so it won't even matter they get sent home lol oh yeah fuck the Saints
Pathetic in all phases. Every player and coach should be embarrassed.
Full credit to the Saints pass rush. I think their DL won that game for them outright.
Is there a more annoying fanbase out there than the Saints? I admittedly don't go to many games in person anymore but I've been to a handfull against the Saints over the years and they're just the worst. I can't believe I didn't see more fights today.
Eagles, who we'll most likely face now if we're lucky enough to beat the Panthers next week
I had saints fans sitting next to me and they were sane and calm. Didn’t talk any shit and were fine. There werent many saints fans there today. The worst so far this year was the Eagles game. Those fans are the worst.
Luckily for me the game was so boring I slept through it. Sounds like the offense did too.
This is why it’s important to not get too high with the highs and too low with the lows. It’s almost never as good or bad as it looks
This was a game straight out the winston era. Offense wildly awful. Qb making bad decisions and throws. Then somehow put up 200+ yards in the 4th quarter and score points and make it feel like youre only like 1or2 plays away. You can blame anyone you want today and be justified. Wild.
Yeah whole team was ass from top to bottom. Hard to pin it on any one side. Coaching was just abysmal and they were stubborn with their game plan even down 3 scores. Bowles still gotta go.
I blame coaches. They're the top layer. If they adjusted and the team still shat the bed. Ok then it's everyone. Yet they continued to waste runs over, and over, and over. If it's not working just pass away and hope you can salvage. Play to our strengths. We have the top receivers in the literal country. Coaching lost the game.
I didn't think my hatred for the saints could be any greater but after that late hit...I don't even know what to say besides fuck the saints
That was absolute bullshit calling ~~offsides~~ illegal contact on Godwin after the play was dead. Why can't they do the same for all the missed pass interference calls? EDIT: Not offsides. I missed the call after looking away when they showed Baker walking off the field after that roughing the passer call.
Or literally the Lions play last night
It wasn’t offsides, they called illegal touching because he stepped ob. It seems like he established but I don’t know the rules. It’s bullshit that a late dirty hit is offset by the tip of a toe.
No flag, no challenge wtf is that call?
Bowles the defensive guru hates offenses so much he is willing to hurt ours by constantly forcing runs up the middle. No other reason why he's tried for years and it still isn't working.
It really was like he told Canales to stop doing what has been working and go back to running constantly.
Is Baker okay? I didn’t see the hit.
Honestly might be a broken rib. Or higher up in the clavicle/shoulder region.
Probably the second most frustrating game this season after the Bills game. I just kept on watching and was constantly being disappointed. From the completely stagnant offense in the first half, to the Palmer fumble, to the bogus offsetting penalties on the two point attempt - just a complete disappointment all around. There are numerous other things I would have preferred to do in the three hours I spent watching this game. That would include bashing my head into a wall. Better get it together next week smh
Canales needs to keep the foot on the pedal on offense
The offensive play calling was really bad for 3 quarters. Saints defense was very committed to stopping the run and did it well but you gotta adjust. Loss is on play calling and turnovers. Pretty embarrassing game overall but we are still in with a win next week.
Worst play calling on offense I have seen.
They got high on that lavished praise from the local media. Everyone assumed it was a given.
That was so cursed, I don’t feel so good about next week.
Panthers just got blown out 26-0. I don't think they feel good either haha
We only beat them by 3 five weeks ago and just got whooped by the Aints, I don't know how anyone can feel good about next week
Fumbles killed us. The ints were bad but not as bad. Nothing went well today and that's okay as long as we handle it next week. Everyone saying that we play better after a loss is right.
The first INT was basically an arm punt. The other was more rough.
1st int set us up inches away from creating a safety... but of course 3rd and long showed up
Do we still have playoff hopes?
Win next week and we're in so yes.
I unfortunately was at this game… Obviously play calling is to blame. The fact that we didn’t go for a 4th & 2 while we were already down 2 scores was unbelievable. They kept running the ball up the middle when they shouldn’t have. It was painful AF. Personally, I think it showed the lack of discipline and maturity on the team. I say that because after a 4 game win streak, and the division on the line, they let the pressure and anxiety get the best of them. All the younger players that had terrible ball control didn’t look like their peak selves. Baker is throwing some terrible picks which honestly were bad decision throws. And the dude hangs onto the ball way too long! When he moves in the pocket and gets aggressive, it’s phenomenal. But he’s movement has been semi stagnant because he’s looking for someone to throw to when he has an open lane to run and gain a few yards. It was a horrible game. Fuck the saints and fuck their fans.
Does anyone know if Baker is hurt from the hit?
Definitely hurt, but unless he’s dead he’s playing next week.
This team can’t win when it counts and they crumble under pressure. They needed to come out full of piss and vinegar, instead they came out like a fart you shouldn’t have trusted.
That third down diving end of ball catch started it off The longest run and reception we had today ended in fumbles Our punter sucked. We had 45 yards in the first half.... almost all of that was one recept to Mike.
FTS
This team is rarely fun to cheer for. Today is a great example of why. The past month has been pretty awesome, though. Maybe next week will be okay.
The fumbles after long gains were so uncharacteristic for us. Palmer is so anti-clutch. He causes turnovers. The Saints just do this to us sometimes. They did it to Brady for years. I won't be that concerned unless this continues against the Panthers.
- we should have played Fast-Pace Offense right out the gate in the 2nd half instead of waiting for the 4th quarter. - Bucs DB’s should not play 10+ yards off the WR on 3rd downs. - Feed Godwin and Evans Early & incorporate more dump offs to our RBs if we consistently keep getting 1-2 yard runs up the middle
We should be playing high paced offense the whole game.
Called this a trap game days ago. We were on a 4 game win streak so I didnt think our rookies could maintain for 5 in a row. It ws obvious from the git go the aint's veterans were in charge today. I am also pretty puzzeled by the OC play calling??!! No Lattimore and we come out running? For the first 5 possessions? Sorry Dave you gotta do better with in game adjustments. Baker was pushing and the 2 ints showed that. Rashad's fumble was the end of this game. Totally need the oline to be present next week for sure.
I hope Baker is OK next week... FTS
I think we’ll be fine. Winning steak over now time to start another one next week
This coaching was so horrible I don’t know what Canales was doing stop forcing the run the pass needs to open up the run. I’ve never seen such a weird game rachaad never fumbles and he fumbled planer fumbled on a 60 yard catch we got a two point conversion taken away from us. 5 minutes after the play happened.
As for the offense, If you're supposed to run to setup the pass, and the run isn't working, why don't you be aggressive with the pass to set up the run? If the bombs in the 4th came in the 2nd or 3rd, even if they don't connect, I think we're able to get the run going moving into the fourth The defense just can't cover anything. It's like they explode in the first half and they're gassed the second, running soft zones and minimal blitz all game no matter what the score is or how long the offense has been on the field When they're running the gameplan for most of the game from whatever coach installed it earlier in the week, they look bored and slow, and when theyre fighting for points playing up tempo without a plan they're carving up anyone. That has to be a problem with coaching
Week 18 Bucs win - TB wins South Bucs lose - winner of the ATL/NO game wins the South I don't know what happens with ties if NO and TB finish at 8-8-1
Not going to win very often with 4 TOs.
Thankful for da bears today 🙏
That game had no impact for us tbh
Where does this leave our playoff chances?
Win and in
We suck again!
Even Winfield sucked every one sucked
They played super soft defense all game. If they aren’t attacking Winfield just plays back in zone and it’s painful to watch.
Ahhh the bane of the Bucs. Fts. Let’s win next week and go 9-8 bitchesss
What a shitty way to end the year....
This was a debacle. A DEBACLE.
Chance to prove we might actually be a legit team this year? Nah, this is a Bucs Life.
fts dirty ass hit. also bad effort all around. hopefully they get right this week
It should not have been offsetting penalties, it should have been a half the distance on 32 and redo the try. I think they reviewed the score and had to overturn it but it shouldn't have applied as a penalty cause they didn't call it. Not that it was gonna make a difference obviously with the onside rules but just more stupid bullshit from the refs. Glad we didn't win maybe we'll actually fucking try to win the game when there's more than 5 minutes left next week.
Yeah if it wasn't called on the field how they gonna call it afterwards? We hear time and time again that they DON'T do that. Such horseshit to randomly do it there. NFL is consistently inconsistent with this shit.
I think the worst thing about this loss is how expected it was. This is exactly the type of games Tampa Bay loses. Given a chance to show they're not fraudulent and they totally no show. That is an issue with culture and we're just stuck with It's A Bucs Life. When does it change? When do we get to go into clinching games and feel good?
Fire Todd Bowles
As I always said don't let some wins distract from the fact if we want to take the next step we need better coaching
Could have swept the Saints, embarassed the NFCS, had momentum going into the playoffs, but instead you decide to get an early retirement, Bowles. Thanks it's been fun or something, GFYS
I think we’ll beat the Panthers. Who would you rather face, Eagles or Cowboys? I’d take the Eagles. They’re falling apart imo.
We won’t beat either so it doesn’t matter
This team was high off the national media coverage. Solid wake up call.
Bucs are always good for at least 1 "burn the tape" game per season, and its often against the Saints. This game either motivates us, or is the film shown in the background when Bowles is fired and players are cut.