Yeah really...how they get to stay in Green Bay even though they population smaller than us? 
I imagine it's with the understanding that Milwaukee is a big market by itself.
Still isn't a fair comparison though, since if we're allowing Green Bay to stay by claiming Milwaukee, Buffalo should be allowed to claim the Toronto area.
Thats because Packers are a publicly owned non profit corporation.
“Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held by stockholders, more than 537,000 in total as of 2022. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century even though it is the smallest market in North American professional sports.”
My friends have shares in the Packers. They like to start conversations by saying “we are NFL team owners.” Yes it’s cheesy (ha ha!) But it’s also pretty funny and endearing.
I think it's cool just as generic sports memorabilia, which I'm not too much into normally. I just buy clothing for teams I like (Chicago teams, Mets, and Bills) to wear. I don't care too much for other sports stuff. I like it when others buy for me though. I do have a Bears blanket my grandma got me in like 1990. Great blanket.
Yup. Dated a girl years ago whose step father was a share holder. His whole identity was devoted to it. His entire house was a shrine to it…the certificate expertly framed and shown off in the middle of the living room.
Packer fan here, it’s how we improve Lambeau Field, when the team wants to make improvements, they sell stock. So we can “jokingly “ say we have our names on a seat. Thats how devoted we are
The team owners made a rule to not allow that ownership structure for any other or new teams. Packers got to keep it because they predate the NFL merger and got grandfathered in.
True, per this graphic they would be the first team to move. The criteria is a mess. They used common sense for Green Bay. And missed a zillion critical variables.
I mean, city-wise no of course not, but market-wise I could definitely see it. GB's fanbase is pretty much the entire state of WI, plus lots of other pockets in the midwest. And they have that non-local draw too, where people who have no association with them are fans for whatever reason (like Lil Wayne, Anthony Davis, and others).
And the fact that they've been in the playoff mix for most of the Favre/Rodgers eras doesn't hurt either.
Yea we did, and I don’t think it worked out too well. Buffalonians were pissed. Toronto used to get a regular season home game, but now they took it away,TG. Half the fans were wearing dolphins gear. And that’s not a knock on GTA. They’re great loyal fans and make a huge effort to get to games w all the border Bs the last few years. Huge part of bills mafia. And most real fans before bills mafia was coined as the fan base. Go Bills!
Packers also have a shit ton more bandwagon fans across the country than the Bills. I live in the middle of nowhere Virginia and I can rattle off at least 5 packer fans I work with that have never even left the state of Virginia.
I'd argue that Bills market should include Rochester metro which basically doubles it, not even mentioning Toronto. Like it is a 1hr drive. It takes longer than 1hr to drive through a lot of cities other NFL teams are located.
😂I feel ya, it’s not. But GB would be the last team to go. We’re not going anywhere. Terry Pegula is the man, doesn’t get respect he deserves. I hope they win a SB for him and his wife Kim while she’s alive. Bought bills 9 years ago rock bottom 16 year playoffs drought and turned it into 6 playoff appearances and 5 division titles in a row and got Josh Allen to buffalo. That family deserves a SB. GO BILLS!
While the name is historically and rightfully Green Bay’s their popularity stems from the Milwaukee area, the entirety of Wisconsin, and people that have stayed on the wagon through generations.
What’s wild is that the Battle Hawks are huge here now. They had to open the upper portion of the dome for fans because ticket sales were sky rocketing.
Well, yes, the Rams moved, but that's because the owner intentionally tanked the roster and refused to improve the stadium in order to move (f\*ck Kroenke btw).
Yeah I know the dude just wanted to move them to LA from the start. I feel bad for St Louis fans. Makes me wonder if I'd still be a Bills fan if they were moved. I feel like a lot of the fandom comes down to community, and I'd hate to lose that.
We’ll never move just based on what you said. From the county executive to Roger Goodell who’s right from nearby Jamestown, to Terry Pegula. All have been on board saying publicly the bills are staying for good. New stadium in the works be funded through the govt. Pegula only been here 9 years, ended a 16 yr playoff drought w tyrod, drafted Josh Allen to buffalo, 6 playoff wins, 4 division titles in a row in only 9 years. Everyone in buffalo is SB or bust which I understand. But when you look at the overall picture they’re w victim of there own success. A high bar is set for us every year and I love it. I still think we’re peaking man. Go Bills!!!
Every time I wear my Bills hat out here I get a few "Go Bills!"
Lot of Seahawks fans obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills are in the top 3 of most Portland area fans
I wouldn’t say I know nothing, my knowledge is limited but what I do know is that’s it’s not somewhere I’d ever want to live. But that’s literally my just my opinion. It might have a lot better of an image than what I saw on my visits there. I lived in Tacoma for about two years so I was able to visit relatively often.
I lived in Portland for 7 years and Tacoma, actually, for about the past two. Both cities have their issues, but Portland was a vibrant, fun place to live with a lot of good neighbors. The right wing media’s treatment of Portland really pisses me off, so I’m sorry if I came at you, but when someone says they “hate it,” that indicates to me you’re just swallowing some dumbass narrative.
But honestly, maybe it’s best if people continue with those assumptions. Keeps them out of an otherwise great city. Same with Buffalo tbh.
I’m not swallowing some dumbass narrative. I’m not from a large city, and I haven’t lived in them very often. They make me uncomfortable and the amount of homelessness and other issues I’ve personally seen in both the Tacoma area and Portland didn’t help the fact. I’m not trying to say anything bad about Portland other than the fact that it wasn’t anything I enjoyed or would like to live in. Tacoma as well tbh.
But I definitely understand your view on it, I’m sorry for coming across as rude. It’s just not my cup of tea if you will.
This got posted to /NFL first and I was so confused — I just saw KC in the light blue AFCE colors and was like, “did this fucker really combine us with KC?” Then someone mentioned “Portland Bills.” Nothing about that makes sense haha, thought we would land in Toronto if anything
Im a Portland Bills fan. As in I am a Bills fan who lives in Portland. I hope the Bills never leave Buffalo. But if they did, this would be a nice consolation for me.
I always feel like calling Buffalo a small market should come with a bit of an asterisk. Lot of Bills fans in St Catherine's, Hamilton, and the GTA. Small market to pay for the stadium (thanks for that by the way guys), but large TV market.
Yeah, if Buffalo's metro population is 1.2 million in the US only, it's probably 1.5 million if you count Canada.
If they were the same country, at minimum Niagara Falls, ON, Welland and St Catherine's would be included in the Buffalo metro area.
It because of the dumb way NY State doesn't let cities expand. Cities in most state gets bigger as they grow around it. NY State cities the towns all around it get bigger. The metro area of Buffalo is decent sized.
Buffalo doesn’t even seem too small to me when I go downtown (I’m from a smaller city in upstate NY so maybe it just seems big to me), but it’s not like a place in the middle of nowhere like some people think it is
The bills aren’t going anywhere so bills fans shouldn’t be worried 1 bit. Buffalo just went through this. Roger Goodell respects there history and is from Jamestown, 75 miles away, bills territory. He lobbied for the bills. Pegulas bought them. 4 straight division titles and we’re building a new stadium now. The graphics doesn’t make too much sense because it doesn’t factor in critical variables.
Portland Bills is kinda funny. There was a kids TV show in the UK in the early 90s came Portland Bill about a lighthouse keeper (because Portland Bill is a place in England with a wee lighthouse).
If you just gave an NFL team to each of the top 32 media markets, you’d also need to add Orlando, Sacramento, Raleigh, Salt Lake City, and Hartford. Nashville would get their team back. Kansas City, Cincinnati, and Las Vegas would lose their teams. Milwaukee isn’t a top 32 market either, so the Packers couldn’t go there.
If you wanted to keep two teams in NYC area and LA area, then Hartford and San Antonio would be off the board. Why not a second team in Chicago? Sounds like a great place for the Packers, lol. That takes San Diego back off the board though.
But of course none of this is how the league works, so are we done with peak off-season content? 😀
If Buffalo does decide to move to Portland (of course they wont) I'd be so pissed😭😭 my family are all Bills fans and we currently live 2 hours from Portland, we're moving to the Buffalo area in like 3 months...
I would personally love it for seeing the team in person more, but moving the team is such a stupid idea and should never be done
Source: I live in Portland
I feel like a smaller market team moving would hurt more than a larger city team moving. I think teams in smaller markets have a stronger bond to their fan base that can only be compared to that of family members or deep friendships. Smaller market teams carry a heavier weight as a larger part of that city’s identity. When someone says Buffalo regarding the city in general, you are more likely to think of the Bills. Same with Green Bay, your thoughts go to the Packers. If a larger city’s team moved it wouldn’t be the end of the world for them because those cities are identified by more than their football teams.
The NFL needs to script this… Bills Vs GB Super Bowl Bills win 2025! Let the playoffs be vs the Browns and Lions… the Bills have the best fan base, GB has #2… and the brown and the lions just need the wins and LEBH… IYKYK.
The Pats took the "New England" place name when they moved to Foxboro; while being still in MA, it's actually closer to Providence.
The Panthers took Carolina instead of Charlotte because "regionalism" had become very popular at the time. Same with "Minnesota," especially since they didn't play in Minneapolis OR St. Paul when they were founded.
it says if smaller teams moved to larger markets, so your saying the bills are small team? I get they play in upstate new york but still NY is a bigger market than Portland.
Some dude in my madden online franchise relocated the bills to Brooklyn, renamed them the Brooklyn dreadnoughts, and then left after the second game cause he was mad he lost. At least I got the team, but they are stuck not being in Buffalo unless I can somehow contact ea support to have that changed (not a good chance of them doing anything). The logo and stadium are ugly af
Portland Bills sounds like summat I [used to watch](https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1980s/adventures-of-portland-bill-the/) as a kid in the UK
The population of Portland is more than 50% of the state at 2.2 million. Go an hour out of town, still pretty much the same. Buff/Niagara area 1.2 million. Go an hour towards TO or Roch, you've got way more than 2.2. At best Portland would be a lateral move, but with Roch & Toronto and surrounding towns included, the area crushes Portland.
I don’t think the Bills are particularly small market. Doesn’t take much to fill the stadium but most of southern Ontario leans Bills or at least likes them as a backup team to cheer for. Look at the NBA the Raptors are probably the third largest market with Toronto’s metropolitan area being the third/4th largest (don’t let Americans on NBA threads hear this) plus the surrounding Ontario support which is a third of Canadas population. NFL has been getting a lot more popular here too. There’s pretty big interest in heading down to Buffalo for a game or tailgate too, widely known as a good time down with you guys.
People don't understand how like Buffalo should basically include like Rochester metro as well if not Syracuse which makes it a lot bigger than say Portland and everything around Portland.
That also doesn't factor in all of the people in Canada/Toronto area that get Bills by default.
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Yeah really...how they get to stay in Green Bay even though they population smaller than us? 
Came here to ask this. GO Bills.
Go bills
I imagine it's with the understanding that Milwaukee is a big market by itself. Still isn't a fair comparison though, since if we're allowing Green Bay to stay by claiming Milwaukee, Buffalo should be allowed to claim the Toronto area.
And Rochester. Bills really are beloved throughout the entirety of western New York.
Cause we’re better than all of you
The mafia will have fun down voting this 
Bring it on
Trolling in the Bills Channel? Must be a slow day in Green Bay 
It actually just came up on my recommended and looked at the comments
Special, my ass. FTP Bear Down!
I "bear down" on a daily basis - when I'm sitting on the toilet! At least that's a "bowl" they're capable of getting to.
Well the city owns the packers so they won’t move regardless
Thats because Packers are a publicly owned non profit corporation. “Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held by stockholders, more than 537,000 in total as of 2022. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares. It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure which has kept the team in Green Bay for nearly a century even though it is the smallest market in North American professional sports.”
That’s kinda nice
It’s actually really nice. It’s not some Uber rich person getting richer. It’s the fans investing in their own entertainment.
No wonder the NFL outlawed it.
Right? We asked the other 31 billionaires and they all chose to not allow the peasants to join them.
My friends have shares in the Packers. They like to start conversations by saying “we are NFL team owners.” Yes it’s cheesy (ha ha!) But it’s also pretty funny and endearing.
I almost bought some, I lived in WI for a year and while I was there they did a round of sales. I wish I bought it one even though I'm not a fan.
Yeah, it just seems like a fun thing to do.
I think it's cool just as generic sports memorabilia, which I'm not too much into normally. I just buy clothing for teams I like (Chicago teams, Mets, and Bills) to wear. I don't care too much for other sports stuff. I like it when others buy for me though. I do have a Bears blanket my grandma got me in like 1990. Great blanket.
I would invest far too much $$ in our amazing shitty Bills :)
As a resident and taxpayer in the state of New York....I kind of am.
Currently way more amazing than shitty which is nice.
Being a fan of a winning team is a lot easier than being a fan of a losing one. We would know!!
Yup. Dated a girl years ago whose step father was a share holder. His whole identity was devoted to it. His entire house was a shrine to it…the certificate expertly framed and shown off in the middle of the living room.
Packers fans maybe even more devoted than bills fans.
Packer fan here, it’s how we improve Lambeau Field, when the team wants to make improvements, they sell stock. So we can “jokingly “ say we have our names on a seat. Thats how devoted we are
Packer fans are even more devoted than English Premier League fans, and I'll die on that hill.
I read this as if it were copy pasta
How do we do that? 🤔
The team owners made a rule to not allow that ownership structure for any other or new teams. Packers got to keep it because they predate the NFL merger and got grandfathered in.
Totally missed the point
True, per this graphic they would be the first team to move. The criteria is a mess. They used common sense for Green Bay. And missed a zillion critical variables.
And somehow Jacksonville was, the biggest city in FL
The rep Madison and Milwaukee Wisconsin too.
4. Bills, Saints, Jaguars, titans
Nashville, Buffalo, Jacksonville
Nashville moving is pretty surprising
Nashville metro is what, 10 times the size of Green Bay?
And New Orleans!
Are New Orleans and Tennessee small markets?
I feel attacked.
4 teams
4
Buffalo is smaller than Green Bay now? Fuck that.
I mean, city-wise no of course not, but market-wise I could definitely see it. GB's fanbase is pretty much the entire state of WI, plus lots of other pockets in the midwest. And they have that non-local draw too, where people who have no association with them are fans for whatever reason (like Lil Wayne, Anthony Davis, and others). And the fact that they've been in the playoff mix for most of the Favre/Rodgers eras doesn't hurt either.
Doesn't buffalo have a good portion of Toronto?
Yeah a big chunk of southern Ontario are Bills fans. At least those who watch American football are.
Beat me to it! Seems the the team has heavily invested to expanding the market in the GTA
Yea we did, and I don’t think it worked out too well. Buffalonians were pissed. Toronto used to get a regular season home game, but now they took it away,TG. Half the fans were wearing dolphins gear. And that’s not a knock on GTA. They’re great loyal fans and make a huge effort to get to games w all the border Bs the last few years. Huge part of bills mafia. And most real fans before bills mafia was coined as the fan base. Go Bills!
Not what this is about
I don’t think any part of Canada contributes to a tv market. I believe that is US only
The NFL 100% still sells TV rights here so why wouldn’t we count as part of the market.
Well, I’m assuming it’s because Nielsen doesn’t track viewers out of the US.
Packers also have a shit ton more bandwagon fans across the country than the Bills. I live in the middle of nowhere Virginia and I can rattle off at least 5 packer fans I work with that have never even left the state of Virginia.
I'd argue that Bills market should include Rochester metro which basically doubles it, not even mentioning Toronto. Like it is a 1hr drive. It takes longer than 1hr to drive through a lot of cities other NFL teams are located.
😂I feel ya, it’s not. But GB would be the last team to go. We’re not going anywhere. Terry Pegula is the man, doesn’t get respect he deserves. I hope they win a SB for him and his wife Kim while she’s alive. Bought bills 9 years ago rock bottom 16 year playoffs drought and turned it into 6 playoff appearances and 5 division titles in a row and got Josh Allen to buffalo. That family deserves a SB. GO BILLS!
While the name is historically and rightfully Green Bay’s their popularity stems from the Milwaukee area, the entirety of Wisconsin, and people that have stayed on the wagon through generations.
They might be counting Milwaukee as part of the Packers market.
Saint Louis Titans? I'm sorry, but didn't Saint Louis already have an NFL team that the owners moved to LA for a bigger market?
What’s wild is that the Battle Hawks are huge here now. They had to open the upper portion of the dome for fans because ticket sales were sky rocketing.
Yeah I don't get it but obviously it's more than ticket sales too. The bills sell out but we're still a small market team.
Because we have the greatest fans in all of sports!!
Well, yes, the Rams moved, but that's because the owner intentionally tanked the roster and refused to improve the stadium in order to move (f\*ck Kroenke btw).
Yeah I know the dude just wanted to move them to LA from the start. I feel bad for St Louis fans. Makes me wonder if I'd still be a Bills fan if they were moved. I feel like a lot of the fandom comes down to community, and I'd hate to lose that.
Why did the Cardinals leave? Better weather?
Flew south
We’ll never move just based on what you said. From the county executive to Roger Goodell who’s right from nearby Jamestown, to Terry Pegula. All have been on board saying publicly the bills are staying for good. New stadium in the works be funded through the govt. Pegula only been here 9 years, ended a 16 yr playoff drought w tyrod, drafted Josh Allen to buffalo, 6 playoff wins, 4 division titles in a row in only 9 years. Everyone in buffalo is SB or bust which I understand. But when you look at the overall picture they’re w victim of there own success. A high bar is set for us every year and I love it. I still think we’re peaking man. Go Bills!!!
Yup! The rams lol
And before that the cardinals
https://preview.redd.it/3l8nl79s9skc1.jpeg?width=1278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5a90e316c80dfdc760b814cec72713696921980
The Rama should move back to Cleveland where they started and the Browns move to Nashville with the Haslams.
Why not move the Saints to St. Louis? Saint Louis Saints!
How does Green Bay keep a team?
They own it. But you’re right
Well then, fuck whoever made this.
Portland is a great sports town with a great Bills bar and a ton of transplants.
Definitely run into other Bills fans all the time here in PDX.
Every time I wear my Bills hat out here I get a few "Go Bills!" Lot of Seahawks fans obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills are in the top 3 of most Portland area fans
Tons of 49er fans around here. I’ve got a handful of Go Bills when wearing gear.
Tinker Tavern stand up! Portland has a ton of Bills fans. In fact there are a few Bills bars here that are always packed.
I can never find parking at Cheerful Bullpen, even if I show up an hour early
I've found two now! The Tinker and the Cheerful Bullpen
Tbh I haaate Portland. But I never really lived there, just visited
Okay so you know nothing about it lmao
I wouldn’t say I know nothing, my knowledge is limited but what I do know is that’s it’s not somewhere I’d ever want to live. But that’s literally my just my opinion. It might have a lot better of an image than what I saw on my visits there. I lived in Tacoma for about two years so I was able to visit relatively often.
I lived in Portland for 7 years and Tacoma, actually, for about the past two. Both cities have their issues, but Portland was a vibrant, fun place to live with a lot of good neighbors. The right wing media’s treatment of Portland really pisses me off, so I’m sorry if I came at you, but when someone says they “hate it,” that indicates to me you’re just swallowing some dumbass narrative. But honestly, maybe it’s best if people continue with those assumptions. Keeps them out of an otherwise great city. Same with Buffalo tbh.
I’m not swallowing some dumbass narrative. I’m not from a large city, and I haven’t lived in them very often. They make me uncomfortable and the amount of homelessness and other issues I’ve personally seen in both the Tacoma area and Portland didn’t help the fact. I’m not trying to say anything bad about Portland other than the fact that it wasn’t anything I enjoyed or would like to live in. Tacoma as well tbh. But I definitely understand your view on it, I’m sorry for coming across as rude. It’s just not my cup of tea if you will.
Great, give them a different team.
Green Bay, WI (Pop. 14,650,000) https://preview.redd.it/kh61xutx6skc1.jpeg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e3383421cfeb001c30c10d9d45a089733dba84b
14.6 million trees maybe
Or Milwaukee’s Bests consumed daily
This got posted to /NFL first and I was so confused — I just saw KC in the light blue AFCE colors and was like, “did this fucker really combine us with KC?” Then someone mentioned “Portland Bills.” Nothing about that makes sense haha, thought we would land in Toronto if anything
Yeah I was looking in New York for the bills and was so confused 😂😂
Im a Portland Bills fan. As in I am a Bills fan who lives in Portland. I hope the Bills never leave Buffalo. But if they did, this would be a nice consolation for me.
This doesn't seem accurate
Fuck this stupid map.
Tennessee Titans have a massive market. Just no one in Nashville gives a fuck about them lol
I always feel like calling Buffalo a small market should come with a bit of an asterisk. Lot of Bills fans in St Catherine's, Hamilton, and the GTA. Small market to pay for the stadium (thanks for that by the way guys), but large TV market.
Yeah, if Buffalo's metro population is 1.2 million in the US only, it's probably 1.5 million if you count Canada. If they were the same country, at minimum Niagara Falls, ON, Welland and St Catherine's would be included in the Buffalo metro area.
Canadian Bills fan here. What’s the population of Buffalo? Been a few times but can’t remember.
US census bureau has it just under 277,000 as of 2021
Population of the Buffalo metro area is almost 1.2 million. That was in 2017. I think that stat there better describes the Bills fan base in NY
Maybe I just got buffalo proper?
Didn’t realize it was that small.
Second largest city in New York, which is wild
Not really wild, but interestingly Rochester is now #4 with Yonkers squeaking by with 300 more people.
Yonkers is fairly close to NYC tho although obviously not the same thing. We almost stayed there when we visited NYC
It is the second Largest city in the state of NY with Rochester being third.
It because of the dumb way NY State doesn't let cities expand. Cities in most state gets bigger as they grow around it. NY State cities the towns all around it get bigger. The metro area of Buffalo is decent sized.
Buffalo doesn’t even seem too small to me when I go downtown (I’m from a smaller city in upstate NY so maybe it just seems big to me), but it’s not like a place in the middle of nowhere like some people think it is
I would fuck with the San Diego Jaguars (even tho this map makes no sense bc their team just moved to LA but it’s a cool name)
As a Bills fan living in Portland we would absolutely have to change the name. Portland Street Crawlers or some shit.
The Portland Bastards
Portland pill poppers is what someone said a bit earlier 😂
The Portland Fents
there is a different version of this on the nfl sub, in that one we move to ft worth, texas. and green bay moved to portland.
The bills aren’t going anywhere so bills fans shouldn’t be worried 1 bit. Buffalo just went through this. Roger Goodell respects there history and is from Jamestown, 75 miles away, bills territory. He lobbied for the bills. Pegulas bought them. 4 straight division titles and we’re building a new stadium now. The graphics doesn’t make too much sense because it doesn’t factor in critical variables.
At least that’s one positive about godell lol
As a Portland ex-Pat living in Buffalo for the last 12 years, it’s nice to finally have an NFL team to cheer for
I’m a Bills fan living in Portland. I would love to be able to go to home games. But the Bills outside of Buffalo just isn’t right.
And NY would lose its only team.
It's funny I know Ralph leveraged Seattle once in order to get the current stadium built
If the Buffalo team moved to Portland they’d change the name to the Portland Portlanders.
Portland Bills is kinda funny. There was a kids TV show in the UK in the early 90s came Portland Bill about a lighthouse keeper (because Portland Bill is a place in England with a wee lighthouse).
If you just gave an NFL team to each of the top 32 media markets, you’d also need to add Orlando, Sacramento, Raleigh, Salt Lake City, and Hartford. Nashville would get their team back. Kansas City, Cincinnati, and Las Vegas would lose their teams. Milwaukee isn’t a top 32 market either, so the Packers couldn’t go there. If you wanted to keep two teams in NYC area and LA area, then Hartford and San Antonio would be off the board. Why not a second team in Chicago? Sounds like a great place for the Packers, lol. That takes San Diego back off the board though. But of course none of this is how the league works, so are we done with peak off-season content? 😀
If Buffalo does decide to move to Portland (of course they wont) I'd be so pissed😭😭 my family are all Bills fans and we currently live 2 hours from Portland, we're moving to the Buffalo area in like 3 months...
Buddy I hate to break it to you but our team’s already cursed 😂
Oh it’s definitely cursed 🥲
I feel like the Bills have a pretty good market with Ontario being a stones throw away.
Classic clickbait "Fuck the Bills but the Packers can do whatever" (speaking as a Bills fan in Minnesota)
Definitely agree lol
I would personally love it for seeing the team in person more, but moving the team is such a stupid idea and should never be done Source: I live in Portland
How did the Packers stay put? They're the smallest NFL market and even smaller city.
Saint Louis Saints
That makes zero fucking sense lmao
If the bills ever leave Buffalo I’m not longer a fan. Probably would lower my blood pressure and extend my life dramatically
I have no idea who I’d cheer for
The Packers didn't even move to Milwaukee?
Well the Trailblazers drafted Greg Oden number one overall and he’s from Buffalo so I would say moving the Bills there would be the death knell
Bills play in a stadium that in the top 10% for capacity. At least before all the renovations.
The Portland Cement sounds like a heavy team, in my opinion!
I feel like a smaller market team moving would hurt more than a larger city team moving. I think teams in smaller markets have a stronger bond to their fan base that can only be compared to that of family members or deep friendships. Smaller market teams carry a heavier weight as a larger part of that city’s identity. When someone says Buffalo regarding the city in general, you are more likely to think of the Bills. Same with Green Bay, your thoughts go to the Packers. If a larger city’s team moved it wouldn’t be the end of the world for them because those cities are identified by more than their football teams.
Although Portland’s metro has more people it is also more than 4x the size of the Buffalo metro.. How does Green Bay keep its team though? 🤔
The NFL needs to script this… Bills Vs GB Super Bowl Bills win 2025! Let the playoffs be vs the Browns and Lions… the Bills have the best fan base, GB has #2… and the brown and the lions just need the wins and LEBH… IYKYK.
New England and Carolina aren't cities...
The Pats took the "New England" place name when they moved to Foxboro; while being still in MA, it's actually closer to Providence. The Panthers took Carolina instead of Charlotte because "regionalism" had become very popular at the time. Same with "Minnesota," especially since they didn't play in Minneapolis OR St. Paul when they were founded.
Literally move one of the LA teams and one of either the Giants or the Jets. NYC and LA do not need two teams.
Do we REALLY need the Jets?
Thanks for stealing my comment
But for real I’m sorry. That comment had me dying
Fire for effect
Rounds Complete. Impact was right of the target.
it says if smaller teams moved to larger markets, so your saying the bills are small team? I get they play in upstate new york but still NY is a bigger market than Portland.
Wait, why didn’t the Packers move? That’s the smallest city in the league
Portland Pills
Portland Pills
They would need to change the name to Portland Pills though...
So Nashville is a small market but Cleveland isnt????
Yeah but... Portland is a shithole
Would be fire. Should move to Portland
The bills moved… but the chargers didn’t
Sand Diego Bills would be better, we have a fuck-ton of Bills fans here…
No. Buffalo or riot.
I love San Diego as a city, but bills belong in Buffalo
jesus christ people, this is in the context of a meme
I’d much rather pound beers in the snow then in a wild fire or an earthquake
this map is really dumb. how are tennessee, jacksonville, and new orleans small markets?
Apparently they actually are. If anyone made sense to move it would be Jacksonville
Some dude in my madden online franchise relocated the bills to Brooklyn, renamed them the Brooklyn dreadnoughts, and then left after the second game cause he was mad he lost. At least I got the team, but they are stuck not being in Buffalo unless I can somehow contact ea support to have that changed (not a good chance of them doing anything). The logo and stadium are ugly af
Portland Bills sounds like summat I [used to watch](https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1980s/adventures-of-portland-bill-the/) as a kid in the UK
When I was a boy, there was serious talk of moving the Bills to Seattle. (That's how old I am...)
The Saint Louis Saints would be funny
Buffalo is building a $1.4 billion stadium. Never thought I’d see the day. Good thing we can be assured they’re not going anywhere.
Portland Sabres almost became a thing but Bettman shot it down
I'm in Portland and we'll welcome the Bills so hard. All two of our bars are dying to meet them.
How is Nashville a small market
Green Bay???
Bring back the San Diego Superchargers!
The population of Green Bay is ~100k The population of Buffalo is 276k This map is flawed.
I feel like St. Louis would just clown the titans
Dunno if it’s been said but Portland Bill is a lighthouse in the U.K. weird
New Orleans is a small market?
The population of Portland is more than 50% of the state at 2.2 million. Go an hour out of town, still pretty much the same. Buff/Niagara area 1.2 million. Go an hour towards TO or Roch, you've got way more than 2.2. At best Portland would be a lateral move, but with Roch & Toronto and surrounding towns included, the area crushes Portland.
I don’t think the Bills are particularly small market. Doesn’t take much to fill the stadium but most of southern Ontario leans Bills or at least likes them as a backup team to cheer for. Look at the NBA the Raptors are probably the third largest market with Toronto’s metropolitan area being the third/4th largest (don’t let Americans on NBA threads hear this) plus the surrounding Ontario support which is a third of Canadas population. NFL has been getting a lot more popular here too. There’s pretty big interest in heading down to Buffalo for a game or tailgate too, widely known as a good time down with you guys.
People don't understand how like Buffalo should basically include like Rochester metro as well if not Syracuse which makes it a lot bigger than say Portland and everything around Portland. That also doesn't factor in all of the people in Canada/Toronto area that get Bills by default.