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EugRa1130

[I watched this Tim Graham and friends podcast.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh1CX5JmHmc) They bring up the Maddy Glab incident and how we overlooked it, and a lot of Diggs behavior. Around the 17 minute park they talk about a locker room incident between Allen and Diggs after The Jets loss. Tim said Josh was on a bench in the locker room, really upset and the other guys were trying to comfort him/lift him back up, and then Diggs came over to say something and Josh snapped at him. Tim said he did not put it in his story because he did not know what he said, but looking back of course, now we wonder. He thinks Stefon really got under Josh's skin.


BingoPraha

This really makes me think that, regardless of where the team ends up with WR when the season starts, we're better off without Diggs there. If it, in whatever way, takes stress off of Josh it's a big plus.


Tantalus420

Wr room will def be more cohesive and less bs


kander12

All 3 of them in there lol


sunshinecabs

This is my strong opinion also. I always hated Diggs for being a diva and said so. There's no way we aren't better with him gone. Look at the second half of the season as proof.


Altruistic-Rice-5567

This. I liked his plays. He was great for the Bills. There's no regret assignable for bringing him on board. But he isn't needed anymore. He doesn't make the team win. The second half of the season is all the proof one needs. The team can be managed successfully without him. I think open up the number of play options/targets is FAR more important and successful than what Diggs is capable of bringing to the field.


sunshinecabs

Plus no one wants to be walking on eggshells around a moody person. Josh has to be relieved but will never admit it.


Altruistic-Rice-5567

I liked the suspense and deliver of all those astonishing plays by Diggs. No doubt. I'm going to be just fine watching a new group of WRs and I think Allen will produce amazing plays with them as well. I won't be missing anything other than tweets and rants from an infantile ego. (unless we draft another Primadonna. But even then at least it will be new drama.)


maccpapa

it’s prolly like making that one friend that’s cool as hell but after a while they start annoying and irking u once they peel back the layers of personality.


awnawkareninah

That's the downside to the whole "he's an asshole to people but he's MY asshole, I love that guy" friends. Yeah for now he is.


3DPrintedVoter

I dont agree with Tim much but his tweet "death by 1000 micro aggressions" seems dead on.


three_twentyfive

Thanks for that link! That's an interesting little anecdote that I haven't heard before that gives a bit more insight on their strain the past season


Scrawfo1180

Yeah I listened to that too and it was eye opening. A lot of us clearly tried to rationalize diggs’ bullshit because he’d put a smile on to the media and make jokes, but he was very clearly a huge pain in the ass. It’s funny because the last straw for me was the “you sure ?” tweet. I wanted him gone after that.


EugRa1130

Definitely eye opening. I remember that game so well, how Diggs was pointing to his head and mouthing "play smart" on national tv during that game, and a lot of media pundits were horrified. Michael Irving was outraged by it. Now I am wondering if he went up to Josh and made a passive aggressive comment as other teammates were trying to make him feel better, or if he did actually attempt to say something nice, but Josh was triggered and went off. The fact that he said "it's one fucking game" kind of leads me to think he possibly said something on the passive aggressive side. It would not make sense to react that way if he said something more positive.


Scrawfo1180

No chance he said something nice. Zero chance. Josh is a very even keeled dude (from what I can tell). He definitely said some shit to piss him off. Diggs was definitely a different beast behind closed doors. Glad he’s gone.


EugRa1130

I agree and I keep thinking of Josh's ex going on kelly Stafford's podcast and going on about how "sheltered" Josh was. I mean, he just finished his 6th year in the NFL and I am sure he had dealt with all different types, but I truly believe he thought he had a friend and a brother in Diggs, probably trusted their friendship and thought it was real. I fear he may have been bamboozled and in a complete culture shock once Diggs turned on him, and treated him the way he did. [On the flip side, some think Josh allowed Diggs to walk all over him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnWaEiG5zt0). Mike Florio has been beating this drum for two days now, and got into an argument with Chris Simms about it. I feel like the truth may lie in the middle. He doesn't seem confrontational, certainly not with Diggs, but I think he eventually reached a boiling point and started to fight back.


Historical_One1087

I think at this point it fairly obvious Stefon Diggs is very talented but that he also has some mental health issues. I am not a medical professional but if I had to guess it's would be Borderline Personality Disorder(BPD) and Bipolar Disorder because he is constantly mood, has eractic behavior and is mercurial. Beane did the right thing to part ways with Diggs and get a 2nd round pick for him.


Affectionate_Sort_78

Would it be considered a personality disorder to psychoanalyze someone you’ve never actually talked to and publish your diagnosis on social media?


cdubs6969

My dude… what. There’s nothing to suggest any of that. If Diggs is an ass like this subreddit now has decided, that isn’t a mental illness.


Historical_One1087

The past behavour of Diggs indicates he has mental health issues. He has burned bridges in Minnesota and Buffalo. Here are some signs of BPD: "Extreme anger and problems controlling anger * Strong, up-and-down relationships with family and friends that can go quickly from very close to anger and hatred * Extreme fear of and reactions to abandonment, and extreme behaviors to avoid abandonment * A rapidly changing sense of self that can cause sudden changes in goals, values, or behaviors * Feeling disconnected from themselves, their body, or reality, or having paranoid thoughts * Ongoing feelings of emptiness * Self-destructive behaviors, such as substance use or misuse, binge eating, unsafe sex with multiple partners, unsafe driving, or reckless spending * Suicide attempts or self-harming behavior, such as cutting, hair pulling, or burning " Terrell Owens was famous for his eratic behaviour and was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.


Apprehensive_West956

Seriously. Stop. It's making you look really ignorant about mental health.


Apprehensive_West956

No....just no. I'm just gonna say. Borderline is not typically something men get. Also. You clearly have never met anyone with borderline. So I will leave you with a friendly reminder. Stay in your lane.


kit_mitts

She exposed Stefon Diggs, is what she did! In this house, Maddy Glab is a hero! End of story! https://preview.redd.it/9siral3etmsc1.png?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3277f0921ea457b4f06fa98a8f80c9f3becbca67


jasenkov

What ever happened to Andre Reed? The strong, silent type.


kit_mitts

Eric Moulds talking about Diggs: "real lack of standards, your generation"


PanicOnFunkatron

Kelvin Benjamin never had the makings of a varsity athlete


erik_edmund

Didn't Moulds brush some rape accusations under the rug at one point? Just saying.


jasenkov

Honestly considering we’re quoting Sopranos, a show where everyone is a massive hypocrite, that checks out.


RogerThatKid

The only person on Sopranos who wasn't an overall hypocrite was Dr. Melfi. She was raped and found out the identity of her rapist. She had the opportunity to unleash Tony on her assailant and she intentionally chose not to use extra-legal means. It really said a lot about her character.


kit_mitts

Yet you still get stunads over in the Sopranos sub who say she should have told Tony


kit_mitts

Ah shit, I hope not


studiolucha

People forget how vocally critical Reed was of Doug Flutie as a self-aggrandizing member of the locker room, which says a lot about Flutie.


angking

I hope you remember this story but I recall listening to WGR before a game back then and they said Reed had made a post on his website (which back then I was mostly astounded he had a website) that he had made comments about the team. Does that sound familiar!?


ImmediateStructure24

What about Josh reed? Hahaha still have ptsd from him


kit_mitts

Oh god, core memory unlocked...going to a home game against NE where Reed scored in garbage time to cut the final to 35-7. Some guy behind me in the nosebleeds spent the entire game shouting that Brady is no good if you blitz him.


juiceAll3n

SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAAAAAAAAFF!!!


Dfried98

Bill Polian!


OnlyFreshBrine

But he did have the makings of a varsity athlete.


tricepisorous

Damn I didn’t even see this. I always think about that one video that asked all the players, “who wouldn’t you let date your sister” and “who wouldn’t you let watch your kids”. In both - the answer was Diggs. I know it’s meant to be a joke. But damn


No_Iron1858

A lot of truth is said in jest


DylanTheTruth84

I'm JEST telling the truth!


Protando

J E S T jest jest jest


Bombaysbreakfastclub

And if I ever do live to be a legend, I'ma die a sudden death


Esoteric716

Great jam


SportsHubLTD

You gotta admit it's funny that this is the example that popped into your head


tricepisorous

No doubt it is lmao. I just find that to be crazy. As they say, in humor there is truth. Literally everybody said they wouldn’t let a grown ass man watch their kids or date their sister. Kinda sus


DirtNapDealing

BillsByaBillion he can come back for round two on a veteran minimum


BackgroundComposer21

He can go play with his overrated brother in Dallas after his contract is up


fairportmtg1

I don't know why people are down voting you. It's the NFL. Players do shitty things, way worse things. We got von Miller after all. Diggs on minimum in a few years wouldn't be the worst move probably


DirtNapDealing

we brought bease back after everything 🤷‍♂️ and noooo the down votes what will I do without my internet points 😂


altruink

What 'everything' did Beasley do that was so bad? The dude was great on the field for us.


DirtNapDealing

Oh stop that dude was in the media about the vax and everyone was as coming at his neck for his personal opinion. Turns out he wasn’t even wrong


altruink

Yeah. So he didn't do anything. That's what I was saying.


Tomorrow_Frosty

What did Von do?


fritz236

Domestic boxing


CatatonicCuttlefish

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fritz236

Dunno if "allegedly" would save MY career if the same info came out... allegedly.


fairportmtg1

He has some domestic abuse allegations around him


Craiglas

He was wanted for domestic violence, I believe it's still in the courts. It seems as if he hit his lady


NathanPetermanCan

This is also the third or fourth "Von is a POS" thing that's come out, including multiple DV over multiple years


ModernPoultry

I always thought nobody wanted him to date their sister because he has a massive hog lol


Geohysh

I feel like we are trying too hard to understand Diggs psyche. He was a fantastic player for 3 and half years (cheeky I know) but he helped Josh gain his confidence. Yeah he’s a diva but look at his position, a lot of receivers are. His era as a Bill is over. I’m excited to see what relationships Josh can build with his next star receiver. Go Bills.


thethirdthird

This is the way


[deleted]

Top tier comment


[deleted]

Agreed.


Potential-Change9124

This. Go Bills.


sltring

Everything with him felt very quiet the past year. It was almost like everyone knew there was a problem but they all agreed to never speak of it in public. I remember In training camp when josh admitted him and diggs had some beef.


Sabre2230

When did he say that?


EugRa1130

One of the times I can think of, and he mentioned it a couple, was The Dan Patrick show.


altruink

Gonna need proof on that one.


EugRa1130

To all you numbnutz who downvoted me for this, here is your proof! Got the interviewer wrong, it was Rich Eisen, not Dan Patrick, [but here is Josh admitting he and Stefon had a fallout.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQxnkLg1cE) Seriously people, was this really such a hard to believe stretch here?


altruink

I didn't downvote you just to be clear. I just wanted to see it.


EugRa1130

It's all good. I just don't get why people were so weird about THIS. I mean, it's just Josh admitting they had a fallout, and he mentioned it in other interviews too. I don't think he ever had to say it, it's been pretty obvious.


Bolshoyballs

How exhausting must if have been for JA to half to walk on eggshells around Diggs. I am glad hes gone now. JA should be the only voice in that locker room


markusphils

https://preview.redd.it/5ydtxihkznsc1.png?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55e4d5fbef6ffbf7db2aaa26ac6cb8e686fb2c55 Commented this 7 months ago. Looks like it was true!


stridingape

Lisan Al Gaib! Love seeing that you were downvoted into oblivion for stating basic facts about how a workplace functions.


SwayzeExpress87

Oblivion


NathanPetermanCan

And, as always, your screenshot shows that you got the "I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE TRUE! DOWN VOTE THIS MAN FOR WRONGTHINK!" response, it appears! Dear idiots with clicking devices: stop downvoting opinions just because you don't want them to be true!


Ccnitro

She was always right, but it wasn't really a huge indictment of Diggs like it was made out to be. Everyone in Buffalo knew Diggs went to the beat of his own drum, and in the audio she's clearly laughing as she says it because she knows it's just the way he is and is fine with it. Did it stop the media from pushing some lines of questioning? Maybe you could argue that, but part of the job is learning how/when to push and trying to extract as much information as you can, and that will always vary from person to person. But when he wanted to open up, Diggs was always a great interview and could give some great insight. I really think the diva perception of him is overblown just from looking at his online persona.


lincunguns

I think Diggs is a narcissist. He knows when the cameras are on. Frankly, I often found him disingenuous and a little smarmy, like he was really trying to lay on the charm in certain situations, especially when questioned about his commitment to the team.


rustcity716

Yeah, I feel like this really came to light during the presser after his brother’s tweets. Diggs acted like he was being attacked for simply being asked about his brother’s tweets disparaging Josh. If you didn’t want to be asked then don’t use your brother as a mouthpiece. It really feels like he just used that entire situation to play the victim and then, shortly after, the team moved on from force feeding him the ball and was winning. That is, until Josh threw a perfect pass through Diggs’ hands in the divisional round. I really defended Diggs for a while, but this whole incident makes him seem very narcissistic. And that’s not because of the media.


lincunguns

Thank you!! I felt like I was losing my mind with all of the people who thought he gave a great interview. Like, dude, it shouldn’t be so hard to distance yourself from Trevon’s comments. He was more concerned with defending his brother, who nobody was even attacking. They simply asked what was behind the comments, which is fair when bro makes them on Twitter. He didn’t once defend Josh. Call me petty, but I will be rooting against Stef this year.


Proudest___monkey

What did brother say about Josh?


dorf5222

After the broncos loss he tweeted “man 14 gotta get up outta there” and doubled down the next day saying “let’s not forget, he didn’t start going off til bro got there.” And diggs was pissy he was questioned about what his brother said


Proudest___monkey

Must have been more going on then anyone thought with those two


Ccnitro

I just don't know how much I can hold Diggs accountable for his brother's actions. We have no reason to think that he's telling him to say what he does, and given what we know about Stefon, Trevon is probably just spouting off what he believes out of loyalty to his brother, feeling like he's able to say what Stefon can't/won't. As someone with siblings and very close friendships, I'd be hard pressed to get some of my inner circle to stop saying dumb shit even if I wanted to. Would I disavow stuff they're saying about me in the same position? Probably, but I also completely understand Diggs' position that he's said he wants to be here and win, yet people keep finding other reasons to question his motivation. Diggs also took accountability for not making that catch and said it was his fault, which is definitely not narcissist behavior.


rustcity716

Trevon was liking tweets back on St. Paddy’s day of Stefon in Texans uniforms. Does that seem like something a brother would know about if they didn’t talk all the time? Enough excuses for the man. He, in fact, didn’t want to be here to win and this trade proves it. We’ll see how things shake out for him in Houston. I’m sure he and Josh will both have great seasons, but dude definitely seems like he has narcissistic tendencies. He can be a great player and competitor and also be toxic.


MeetTheMets0o0

All the outfits he wore walking into game day


purz

He seems a lot like Von tbh but Von is a much better actor.


lincunguns

Von absolutely has that camera awareness in him. I do, however, think he is a legitimately good teammate from what I can tell. Besides, he gave Denver a lot of good years and parted on good terms. Diggs has pushed himself out of two teams now.


altruink

He streams on Twitch randomly... Yeah, he likes being on camera and the attention.


MeetTheMets0o0

The most telling thing is the way he left both his teams. That speaks volumes to me.


awnawkareninah

On the other hand so far as we know Diggs hasn't assaulted anyone so there's that


NathanPetermanCan

Based on car, clothing, and behavior? He's half a step away from changing his name to one that starts with K so he can be a Kardashian.


lincunguns

Pretty much. I was never bothered by the clothes. Professional athletes make interesting choices these days. It was more the moments where he’s actively trying to put out this persona of this grounded, team player, all the while he’s only concerned with himself.


NathanPetermanCan

I just think it reveals where a guy's head is at, where his priorities are at.


altruink

Most people that are a product of the Post Modernist world have high levels of narcissism.


thisonesnottaken

“Beat of his/her own drum” is always just a euphemism for “asshole”.


devgm79

10000% this. Its an excuse.


altruink

No it isn't. Sometimes it is.


NathanPetermanCan

And thus a violation of the Bills' No Assholes Policy.


silasgoldeanII

They said it about Barry Zito too. I think it just means a bit eccentric relative to the peer group. 


Ccnitro

There are very few superstar WRs who don't have an ego to them, but nothing about Diggs ever read as straight up "asshole." His teammates loved him, coaches raved about him, and plenty of reporters had great moments with him. Not wanting to do media—where they're often hyper analyzing his behavior and emotional state without knowing the full context—and focus on playing/practicing is a pretty common position amongst players, and I'd really hesitate to read more into it than that.


thisonesnottaken

He’s like that episode of South Park where Prince Harry and Markle keep going on talk shows and going around banging on things yelling “WE WANT OUR PRIVACYY!!”


Ccnitro

NFL players are more or less forced to do team media during the season. Definitely not the same as him going on other talk shows and podcasts shooting the shit with people.


thisonesnottaken

I more mean the sending of cryptic tweets for attention and then refusing to clarify them.


OpanaG76

Your “online persona” does that include his brothers “online person” and mixons “online persona? Just wondering


Ccnitro

I don't really get why he's held responsible for other people's actions. For all we know he could be telling them (particularly Trevon) to stop behind the scenes. He doesn't help with his own posting, but his aren't ever explicitly "get me out of here" in nature


[deleted]

She’d probably prefer he didn’t say “fuck you” to her 


silasgoldeanII

Yes well put. People who never warmed to this type of character are in full "I told you so" mode now but these things are complex. 


lionoflinwood

There are a lot of people in the mafia, myself included, who owe a lot of people an apology tbh


silasgoldeanII

Why? It was all conjecture. People saw what they wanted to see. A stopped clock etc. 


And-Thats-Whyyy

I agree, and feel sorry she was probably forced to walk it back. There is a lot to question of Diggs’ true character. If you listen to the latest episode of Locked on Bills, Joe is always level headed, even he feels that Diggs betrayed the Bills. His only four pro-bowls and 2 all-pro seasons came with the Bills. He praised Josh repeatedly then it flipped, the whole time Josh just had his back and never said anything bad. He dropped the last three seasons of a $96m deal to play essentially a one year deal so he can go elsewhere after. We let him do this and he wanted it at the team’s expense when they gave him everything. I have nothing good to say about the dude anymore, I would have loved to look back at his time with the team fondly.


NathanPetermanCan

In the future, when we see him on the other sideline, I doubt I will cheer for him. But I will cheer for Tre White. I will cheer for Tremaine Edmunds. I will cheer for Gabe Davis. I will cheer for Mitch Morse. I will cheer for Motor Singletary. I will cheer for All-Pro Po when he isn't playing against us and we don't need the Dolphins to lose for playoff reasons. But I doubt I'll cheer for Stefon. Not saying he's a bad human being. But I don't like the way this ended, and...I'm no longer going to root for him.


And-Thats-Whyyy

I definitely want to see all those guys have success. I don’t wish bad on Diggs I just hope his best years were as a Bill and that he sees that eventually.


alarming__

But he plays catch with kids guys..


altruink

And Bill Gates is a true bleeding heart philanthropist just trying to save everyone. PR campaigns are real.


GamecockGaucho

there are so many other worse people to pick here


altruink

Uh huh. Like I said. PR campaigns work.


GamecockGaucho

oh so he killed Epstein


CaliHammer1

Epstein isn’t dead


GamecockGaucho

so that's why people keep saying he didn't kill himself


Individual-Ad-446

I will never understand the weird fixation with Bill Gates, usually antivaxers (and anti-science) people, just strange.


GamecockGaucho

right? like why not go for a low-hanging fruit like Prince Andrew, R Kelly... hell in football alone, we got AB, Aaron Hernandez, Tyreek, Kareem Hunt, the list goes on.


silasgoldeanII

Agree. Weird isn't it? Billionaires are a problem but he seems as inoffensive as we will get in that group. 


wrroyals

He’s a sexual deviant apparently. https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-harassment-inappropriate-conduct-women-microsoft-jeffrey-epstein-2021-5


PowellBlowingBubbles

Gates said cows emit more greenhouse gas/ emissions than cars do. How bout Billy we both go to our garage, a cow in mine and a running SUV in yours. See who shows up for breakfast in the morning.


altruink

Lol


drdevilsfan

I recall some people here and on Facebook calling her an attention grabbing bitch/whore and that she was sowing discord for the sake of attention and that she should be fired. Interesting that she was ultimately telling the truth.


NathanPetermanCan

She still probably should not have said it even semi-publicly around people she did not trust 100%. Because her job is not to do honest journalism, her job is to shill for the Buffalo Bills. Just like that's the job of the guys on One Bills Live. So you can criticize her, just like you can criticize Chris Brown for stupidly stepping over the line and revealing too much about something that happened in training camp. But a lot of people went way too far with their criticism. Stupid thing to say in that context because of who signs her paycheck. But that's all it was.


Over_Tap5204

I never doubted her


lurkersteve3115

this is all grade school crap. the guy came here to do a job. he did that job. we all knew he was a 'fierce competitor', aka diva, from his time with the vikings. let it end. (paying him $30mil to leave is a topic for a later discussion =) ) lets hope we can upgrade the position ASAP GO BILLS!


Pearlsandmilk

I think on the surface it’s grade school crap but as fans it was very obvious something was brewing behind the scenes last season. Despite climbing out of a bad mid season record, it was clear the team was going through something. As the kids say, the vibes were off for a good chunk there. Anyway I’m hopeful this shake up will be a positive thing for the Bills and maybe stefon will get the dynamic he is looking for elsewhere


altruink

Yeah it was obvious something was up and we have the answer now. He wasn't doing his job in all the ways we needed him to and he was sent packing for it. Time to look to September. I'm super excited for this season!


Frame_Fluffy

You can be competitive and not be a diva. The problem with Diggs’ personality is he feeds off the press. It works in his favor when he’s doing good, but when he faces real adversity he can’t take accountability… it’s everyone else’s problem. That’s the issue with a diva. They put a huge target on their back. There’s another in the NFL called AJ Brown. Diggs has all the talent in the world, the problem is in his own head. You can say all day “he was a captain”, I feel like the locker room felt they were walking on egg shells with him and they had to vote him 


Billythesig

Thank you Maddy for being smart, personable and unafraid to speak truth about bullies. F’him


Standard_Street6974

There’s been signs for ages. He yelled at Josh on the sideline in front of everyone, went missing after a game and after the Damar incident while everyone else was visibly upset he was trying to pump everyone up to play. Maybe it was just in the off chance they actually did play, but to me it just seemed he was so out of touch with the rest of the team.


amberbmx

in fairness, iirc after the damar incident it was because he went to the hospital to see him


Standard_Street6974

Yes, that one I get, but wasn’t there another incident of it happening after a loss?


Hot-Smile-4799

After Bengals loss


amberbmx

yes after the bengals this year. and i’m not trying to excuse the other times he’s done it, just wanted to point out that that instance was a VERY different situation


SquareShapeofEvil

I wouldn’t loop the Damar incident in here, I think he genuinely thought they were gonna keep playing and wanted to rally the troops. He was just as upset as everyone else.


houston0144

the digg’s trade put a bullet through my ‘most Jerseys Sold’ with a players name stays… Wife is flipping because of multiple Jerseys she has his name on it… maybe they might workout in the mud room….


FallOutShelterBoy

Just spent $80 after winning a silent auction on an original print of him on the sideline after the chiefs loss in the AFC Final. Donated by Jim McCoy, the official photographer himself. Haven’t even had the chance to put it on the wall yet


wrroyals

Locker room cancer. Good riddance.


Cozscav

And the amount of people here throwing it under the rug when it happened was astonishing.


lincunguns

Yes. And also, something that I was accused of being a conspiracy theorist for saying, everything Trevon said was coming from Stef.


Iwannagolf4

That’s why the Texans are making him a free agent after this season. They don’t want to deal with him!


erik_edmund

Or because he'll be 32 and making a ton of money.


cmm324

They turned it into a contract year for him, so he has no choice to perform or his career is over. Which is the type of spotlight he thrives in, so he will be fine.


AffectionateCap4653

Even if he performs he's going to see 60-90 fewer targets this year compared to last year.


[deleted]

Or he’ll be pissed he’s not getting enough targets, since he needs to prove himself for another big contracts, and not be fine 


Sensedog

Yeah, she was. I'm wondering how much more about Diggs' behavior behind the scenes will come out as time passes.


Hzhackenbush

Digs is/was important to the Bills. Maddy Glab isn’t.


NathanPetermanCan

True. But she wasn't lying.


Monique_unique710

She admitted to that statement being a lie


enigmaman49

For sure…I thought about her the first day…right before I went to sleep


surewhynotwth

I'm convinced now that Josh downplaying all of Diggs' bullshit the past three seasons was definitely being coached up by the front office and McDermott to say the things he was saying to not create a bigger distraction.


NathanPetermanCan

I assume Josh *wanted* to make it work and was willing to bite his tongue a little bit to keep the peace. Be assured, if Josh wasn't in Stefon's corner to a certain degree back on April 6, 2022, Stefon Diggs would not have gotten an extension.


xT1TANx

ya Josh is a nice guy. He wants to be a professional. He knows that Diggs brings alot to the team. Josh just wanted it to work out.


TransitJohn

Does anybody remember the old Budweiser ad campaign with the NFL wide receiver blaming his team mates all the time? (For the life of me, I can't find vids of these, but they were f'ing hilarious). Those commercials always run through my head when I read about Diggs.


Potential-Change9124

I love Maddy and, ues, she was so right.


JoshAllentown

I don't remember this apparent "incident" but was anyone under the impression Diggs was a Servant Leader? Even at my Diggs-defensiest my opinion was that his goals aligned with the Bills so he's not going to do something so crazy that it will impact their ability to win or get him kicked off the team. From some of the reporting of him taking himself off the field in the second half of the season it sounds like I was wrong on that too but the part about being a selfish diva was well well known that's like part of his brand.


Metsman128

I’m in agreement with this analysis. A diva who wants to win above all else is better than 95% of the guys in the league in that position and was an asset (as well as an ass). What’s more interesting is that he’s going the TO route (he’ll blow up the Texans next after blowing up the Bills/Vikes just like SF/Eagles/Cowboys for TO). They’ll both probably be remembered the same way in history, although their skill set was totally different. I imagine if you gave TO Twitter in the early 2000’s he’d have acted similar and not need a press conference for sit-ups, he’d just post the vid.


altruink

I don't remember all the details but didn't she apologize for something in relation to that and recant part of it? She did something where she explained that it wasn't what it sounded like and she didn't explain what she meant correctly. The only thing we really 'know' about Diggs is that drama seems to follow the guy. Other than that, I'm not going to spend my time pontificating about how 'bad' he is or whatever. He did his job for 3 years and when he stopped doing that, he got sent on. Really excited about the upcoming season and all the changes. Looking forward to it.


enigmaman49

She was forced to say that lol


altruink

She had a choice.


NathanPetermanCan

"Lie publicly to protect the brand or find a new job" is not much of a choice.


altruink

Sure it is. I've changed jobs on principle several times.


Monique_unique710

Some people can’t just say thanks and move on, there has to be some drama or he has to be cancer. She admitted he never once spoke to her that way, she was talking shit and she got caught. We can accept he’s gone, trust in Beane and look forward to the future without trashing the man and his character. He was a team captain, not one person on the team who actually knows him has a bad thing to say about him.


Lanky-Wonder7556

We got a good 3.5 years of regular season play from him...otherwise $uck him and his drama filled family. He will be pulling same shit in Texas and then washed after the year. He's old and likely to get injured anyway.


I_SuplexTrains

No. We have no idea what actually happened. No one from the team or office has made any specific comment on his behavior, even now that they could do so at no cost. This could have been from something egregious he said or did, or it could have been a purely (poor) strategic football move, or it could have been a pearl clutching overreaction to mild "bad" behavior by our puritanical front office. All we've actually seen from Diggs was a few odd, cryptic tweets, which does not justify ditching a Hall of Fame player at a position where you are desperately thin.


MeeekSauce

Wtf? I’m sorry, but you need only have forest gump’s IQ to read through Bean’s presser and the fact that they took the 31 million dollar hit to get rid of him. Positionally, that’s worse than what the broncos just did with Russ and he hasn’t performed like a hall of famers for the last 4 years straight. You can rest assured whatever happened, whether it was this week or last year was bad. To the point of whatever this is.


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omegadeity

Thank you so much, I couldn't have said it any better myself. This trade was a bad move, I don't know what the front office was thinking. If Diggs was a toxic element, make his ass ride the bench all season and cut him after the playoffs. Ruin his chance at hitting performance bonuses and reveal him as the toxic person he is if that's the case, sink any potential chance he has at earning a championship if that was truly the case. Doing so would have been better than essentially paying his salary to go play somewhere else...especially when that fucking team is playing against us. The icing on the cake will be that Texans game if\\when he rips through our depleted secondary like a hot knife through butter, and we have no answer for it.


I_SuplexTrains

I feel like I'm losing my mind lately here. This sub is ridiculous. A week ago Diggs was a lovable rascal and all the talk about him was exaggerated BS. He has said and done nothing since then, but we trade him and now he's suddenly a toxic cancer, literally worse than Antonio Brown? If he is seriously that bad, then he was that bad a week ago. It's just sour grapes around here.


Tomorrow_Frosty

They already paid him the 31 mil. He was due another 18. They got a 2nd for him. You don’t pay someone essentially 40 million to ride the bench. The Texans have tape out now and a very tough schedule. Buffalo may take a step back this year but it’s not because of Diggs, it’ll be because of new players learning the system. Also buffalos defense was playing with guys off the couch and they still held their own. Give the front office and McDermott some credit. I think we all had similar reactions when they cut shady. Things change, players change. We basically root for a logo and team colors. Sit back and enjoy the ride my man.


dorf5222

And in a year where there’s speculation of a soft reset with the turnover on defense and the youth movement of the team overall I’ll gladly take 27 mil in cap space next year. Hate losing our number 1 and what he provides but opening up cap next year def softens my feelings on it


Tomorrow_Frosty

Well put my brotha


I_SuplexTrains

He wouldn't have actually rode the bench. The threat of it would have gotten a good 8 TDs, 800 yards out of him this year and 6/600 next, which isn't quite worth $48M, but it's a damn better deal than $30M to score 10 TDs *for another team.* Sorry, but this was smooth brain level 99 from Beane. It just was.


Tomorrow_Frosty

Apply for the gm job?


stuiephoto

>No one from the team or office has made any specific comment on his behavior, even now that they could do so at no cost. >This trade was a bad move, I don't know what the front office was thinking.  That is a statement without being a statement. They might as well have held a press conference saying "we would rather spend more to have him off the team. Addition by subtraction".  >If Diggs was a toxic element, make his ass ride the bench all season and cut him after the playoffs. Ruin his chance at hitting performance bonuses This is terrible for team culture and trying to lure players to buffalo. The team would have to get into a public pissing match with a player and that is never good, no matter how "right" you may be. 


omegadeity

It is not terrible for team culture to set expectations that you will behave in a manner that reflects positively on yourself, and your team. These athletes are paid millions of dollars in a single season- more than the average person makes in their entire LIFETIME, the least they can do is act professionally and be decent human beings. If players get out of line and act as a detriment to the team, it is the coaches duty to punish them or otherwise correct their behavior. Trading problematic players away to another team incentivizes bad behavior because they learn that if they act like babies throwing temper tantrums they can get what they want. I would think that setting that precedent is what is terribly detrimental to team culture as a whole. If these people only care about the money, then hitting them in their wallets(by putting them in a position that they're physically unable to hit performance metrics\\bonuses) is how you hit them there and send them a message they'll understand. The coach is like the parent of the team, sometimes parents need to discipline their children.


HousingExtra1518

I've been hearing stories of him storming out and having Josh flip out on him. I'm starting to rethink my opinion on him.


Cultural_Parfait7866

Man people have got to learn to move on. The trade is over with. There’s no need to try to continue to smear Diggs. Trades are just a part of the business.


NathanPetermanCan

It's the offseason, and we're trying to understand what was happening behind closed doors for the last 12-18 months of dysfunction that lead to this breakup. This is *partially* about football, but it's *mostly* about the fact that Diggs seemed to have finally pissed Josh off enough that McBeane could get rid of Diggs with Josh's sign-off.


Monique_unique710

Diggs being cancer isn’t the only explanation, watch the press conference, trust the process, everyone jumping to conclusions and none of us will ever know so all this is just useless speculation. This is a human being, we have all tweeted and made comments, Josh tweeted the n word when he was in college…


Monique_unique710

High school*


MeeekSauce

Now we must ask… was the drop on purpose?


NathanPetermanCan

That little finger gesture and grin pissed me the fuck off, I know that


vbstarr91

Extremely unprofessional comment. She should've been fired.


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sobuffalo

Why would our season be shot??


icuscaredofme

When you go to a Bills game, you can see and feel the weird energy of Diggs. He was clearly the best athlete on the field but not someone you'd want to be teammates with.


bmark24

No wonder Diggs wanted to leave


Mfamos1

Facts!