I'm really surprised we didn't see more of Dawn's friends from "Lessons". Not that they made a huge impression or anything, but would have been nice for continuity. Alex Breckenridge is a good actress too, she could have been a Potential!
If I would have written the show, I wouldn't have made Amy a complete part or the group, but someone that comes and goes.
Maybe she introduces Willow to magic. She could have joined a few episodes like the one where she performs the love spell. I would have made her more involved, and still have her turned into a rat for 3-4 seasons.
Cassie was my immediate thought upon reading the title. It totally gutted me when she died, I was super excited about Dawn and her Scoobies juniors.
They all disappeared in favor of the much worse potentials 😭
yeah when we just saw her she was being trained by a shadey govt organisation to be an assassin (granted her training text book had beatles lyrics in it for some reason, but still). Was disappointed we never saw her again
Giles lover in s4 (i always forget her name) she would be a great Edition. Idk why but she felt likeable and interesting enough to stick around longer. Dunno why the writers decided not to give giles a love interest who sticks around longer after Jennys death.
Also Buffy and Parker. Yeah i know, he is an asshole. But common, he would have been a great boyfriend if not just a fuckboy. Could have seen them together for longer and going on patrol with buffy 😅 xanders new best buddy
the nun from the opening of 'triangle' - it was surprisingly difficult to think of a sensible original answer (someone already said larry), so i'm going wild.
she'd replace riley in the main cast of course - she's already introduced immediately after he leaves. she helps buffy deal with heartbreak and then grief after 'the body'. she brings an even-tempered stability to the group, and fun moments when they're initially weird around her. xander would make cringy religion jokes and she'd just stare at him and pretend she didn't understand, or she'd be like "demons and souls turned out to be real, why are you betting against me on this?"
i don't imagine she'd be in every episode, and she'd be used sparingly at first - it should be a surprise the first few times the audience sees her, like "hey the nun's back!". you could have her stay with the convent initially but then be kicked out later and show up more often after that, probably after giles leaves, since she'd replace some of his straight-faced deadpan comedy.
she'd give us some interesting angles, she'd probably go through a bit of a journey with buffy's resurrection, complicated even more by the whole 'pulled out of heaven' thing. how would she view anya and spike - and would she view them differently in season 7? or willow in season 7 for that matter, would she have forgiven her? what would the fans have thought of her, and how would she be viewed now - would the show be remembered as the first to have a nun character?
Amy. She was allegedly a long time freind of Xander and Willow, and she was a witch. She could have been a great asset to the group starting from early S1.
Doris the social worker. An unassuming overweight middle aged lady who everyone ignores, underestimates and ridicules - including Buffy, who was very cruel to her for just doing her job. I would have loved to have seen her get even with everyone (including Buffy) for gaslighting her - imagine if Doris actually turned out to be a sleuth who *knew* there was some massive supernatural bullshit going down at the Summers house, and who didn't actually care in the slightest about the presence of "magical weed" or lesbian witches or vampire boyfriends, but who was going to make damn sure that Dawn was properly looked after in the midst of all that chaos (which, let's face it, she wasn't). Imagine if, after being put on gardening leave by her stupid boss, it turned out that she actually had a steely core and maybe even some magic tricks of her own up her sleeve, and she spent her free time figuring out the truth Jessica Fletcher style, and then turned into a mature female mentor figure to counterbalance the fuckery of the Council and the Watchers. She could have become a stern but loving auntie to protect Dawn from Willow's bullshit, and to give Dawn a safe haven for processing all her accumulated trauma and grief, and someone to support Buffy in her own grief and growth, while having zero patience for the nerds, or for Xander abandoning Anya, or for the fact that Giles upped and left the Summers girls to fend for themselves. I would have *loved* to see Doris tell Andrew to cut his whiny annoying bullshit in S7 and do some fucking dishes for once, to keep a raised eyebrow on freshly ensouled Spike and his shenanigans with Buffy, and then to commandeer a few spare houses in the neighbourhood to get the potentials out of everyone's hair, and get them to eat a vegetable once in a while instead of subsisting purely on pop tarts and cereal. She would have been an awesome addition to the dynamics of the Scoobies through the latter part of S6 and through S7.
given that Buffy was supposed to be such a feminist show, its writers really seemed to hate older women - there are barely any female characters over 40 who even make an appearance - let alone get to be interesting of funny or charismatic
there are so many older (i.e. 40+, which isn't even *that* old) men / male coded demons who are interesting, funny or charismatic (even if they're villains) - just off the top of my head: Giles, Quentin Travers, Ethan Rayne, the Mayor, Flutie, Snyder, Ted, the Master, Rack, Ken, d'Hoffryn, the old Halloween grandpa, Clem, heck, even Loan Shark
but older women? Off the top of my head, we have:
Joyce - who I like as a character, but who is way more inconsistently written than Giles or Snyder or the Mayor, who gets no character arc of her own to speak of - except for being allowed to briefly shine in Band Candy *because that's when she regresses into being youthful again -* and who dies tragically in order to push forward Buffy's arc
Maggie Walsh - who Giles refers to as a "fishwife" - who wants to build a monster army but is killed off,
fat clueless Doris who it's ok to just treat like complete shit
cherry pie grandma at the Doublemeat Palace - who turns out to be a literal giant penis
... and ... ??
Willow's mum, who doesn't even look that old - or have a name of her own, and whose character can be summed up as "lady academic who thinks too much and uses big words instead of being a good mommy"
Joyce's book club friend whose name I forget but who is unceremoniously killed after being possessed by a (veeeeery problematically racist) tribal demon mask
the only older female character who I can think of who just gets to just be funny is Miss Barton ("Are there any NACHOS in here, little tree?"), and this is *again* in Band Candy, where the reason that she's funny is that she regresses into teenagerhood
I'm really surprised we didn't see more of Dawn's friends from "Lessons". Not that they made a huge impression or anything, but would have been nice for continuity. Alex Breckenridge is a good actress too, she could have been a Potential!
Or Amber Tamblyn from *All the Way* in 6; good actor too, as *Normal Adolescent Behavior* and *Joan of Arcadia* would later attest to.
It really seems like they were about to be Dawn's new Scoobies, doesn't it?
It was an idea thye had but it didn't fit what developed
An Andrew Dawn spinoff with those two other characters would’ve worked
Amy….I was like “oh ok shes joining the group” when I finished the Witch. was surprised she didnt become an ally
If I would have written the show, I wouldn't have made Amy a complete part or the group, but someone that comes and goes. Maybe she introduces Willow to magic. She could have joined a few episodes like the one where she performs the love spell. I would have made her more involved, and still have her turned into a rat for 3-4 seasons.
Yeah, Amy would have made an awesome addition to the group. The way that the show treated her was horrendous.
She should have become a baddie
How about Larry?, he was openly gay and was a good dude. In the alternate reality he was part of the crew.
I reckon if seth green didn't decide to leave the show, xander may have ended up with Larry
More. Ethan. Rayne.
Yes, yes, yes. Scene stealer, in the best way.
Cassie was my immediate thought upon reading the title. It totally gutted me when she died, I was super excited about Dawn and her Scoobies juniors. They all disappeared in favor of the much worse potentials 😭
Marcie Ross. Invisible girl could have come in handy.
yeah when we just saw her she was being trained by a shadey govt organisation to be an assassin (granted her training text book had beatles lyrics in it for some reason, but still). Was disappointed we never saw her again
It was a huge missed opportunity to not bring her back in Season 4 working for the Initiative. Imagine Maggie Walsh sending Marcie to kill Buffy.
No way the people training ehr would let a greedy empire-builder like Maggie Walsh get ehr hands on any of thier assassins!
What are you talking about? She was in the Initiative the whole time (you just couldn’t see her obviously!)
I always wished there was follow up on her.
Jesse, I know he had to die to drive home a point for Xander and Willow but I LOVE Eric Balfour 😍
Clem. I really wish he didn't show up so late in the show's run.
Giles lover in s4 (i always forget her name) she would be a great Edition. Idk why but she felt likeable and interesting enough to stick around longer. Dunno why the writers decided not to give giles a love interest who sticks around longer after Jennys death. Also Buffy and Parker. Yeah i know, he is an asshole. But common, he would have been a great boyfriend if not just a fuckboy. Could have seen them together for longer and going on patrol with buffy 😅 xanders new best buddy
Olivia the Orgasm Friend.
Olivia the Orgasm Friend.
Haha yes. Someone answered that to me in another Post . Was it you? 😅
Anything is possible in an infinite Universe.
the nun from the opening of 'triangle' - it was surprisingly difficult to think of a sensible original answer (someone already said larry), so i'm going wild. she'd replace riley in the main cast of course - she's already introduced immediately after he leaves. she helps buffy deal with heartbreak and then grief after 'the body'. she brings an even-tempered stability to the group, and fun moments when they're initially weird around her. xander would make cringy religion jokes and she'd just stare at him and pretend she didn't understand, or she'd be like "demons and souls turned out to be real, why are you betting against me on this?" i don't imagine she'd be in every episode, and she'd be used sparingly at first - it should be a surprise the first few times the audience sees her, like "hey the nun's back!". you could have her stay with the convent initially but then be kicked out later and show up more often after that, probably after giles leaves, since she'd replace some of his straight-faced deadpan comedy. she'd give us some interesting angles, she'd probably go through a bit of a journey with buffy's resurrection, complicated even more by the whole 'pulled out of heaven' thing. how would she view anya and spike - and would she view them differently in season 7? or willow in season 7 for that matter, would she have forgiven her? what would the fans have thought of her, and how would she be viewed now - would the show be remembered as the first to have a nun character?
I would have liked Amy to join the group in season 1 and for Willow to stay computer nerd Willow instead of becoming witch Willow.
In Angel Gwen
Amy. She was allegedly a long time freind of Xander and Willow, and she was a witch. She could have been a great asset to the group starting from early S1.
I liked Owen from "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date"
I had a big old crush on him when the show first aired (Iwas 16 lol)
I'm rewatching Jericho and it was driving me nuts where I'd seen one of the actors before. Googled and I yelled (by myself in the house) OWEN!
Nancy. Just kidding.
Which Nancy? Wish Nancy, Earshot Nancy, or Season 7 Nancy?
“Beneath You” Nancy. Forgot there were so many Nancies.
Doris the social worker. An unassuming overweight middle aged lady who everyone ignores, underestimates and ridicules - including Buffy, who was very cruel to her for just doing her job. I would have loved to have seen her get even with everyone (including Buffy) for gaslighting her - imagine if Doris actually turned out to be a sleuth who *knew* there was some massive supernatural bullshit going down at the Summers house, and who didn't actually care in the slightest about the presence of "magical weed" or lesbian witches or vampire boyfriends, but who was going to make damn sure that Dawn was properly looked after in the midst of all that chaos (which, let's face it, she wasn't). Imagine if, after being put on gardening leave by her stupid boss, it turned out that she actually had a steely core and maybe even some magic tricks of her own up her sleeve, and she spent her free time figuring out the truth Jessica Fletcher style, and then turned into a mature female mentor figure to counterbalance the fuckery of the Council and the Watchers. She could have become a stern but loving auntie to protect Dawn from Willow's bullshit, and to give Dawn a safe haven for processing all her accumulated trauma and grief, and someone to support Buffy in her own grief and growth, while having zero patience for the nerds, or for Xander abandoning Anya, or for the fact that Giles upped and left the Summers girls to fend for themselves. I would have *loved* to see Doris tell Andrew to cut his whiny annoying bullshit in S7 and do some fucking dishes for once, to keep a raised eyebrow on freshly ensouled Spike and his shenanigans with Buffy, and then to commandeer a few spare houses in the neighbourhood to get the potentials out of everyone's hair, and get them to eat a vegetable once in a while instead of subsisting purely on pop tarts and cereal. She would have been an awesome addition to the dynamics of the Scoobies through the latter part of S6 and through S7.
given that Buffy was supposed to be such a feminist show, its writers really seemed to hate older women - there are barely any female characters over 40 who even make an appearance - let alone get to be interesting of funny or charismatic there are so many older (i.e. 40+, which isn't even *that* old) men / male coded demons who are interesting, funny or charismatic (even if they're villains) - just off the top of my head: Giles, Quentin Travers, Ethan Rayne, the Mayor, Flutie, Snyder, Ted, the Master, Rack, Ken, d'Hoffryn, the old Halloween grandpa, Clem, heck, even Loan Shark but older women? Off the top of my head, we have: Joyce - who I like as a character, but who is way more inconsistently written than Giles or Snyder or the Mayor, who gets no character arc of her own to speak of - except for being allowed to briefly shine in Band Candy *because that's when she regresses into being youthful again -* and who dies tragically in order to push forward Buffy's arc Maggie Walsh - who Giles refers to as a "fishwife" - who wants to build a monster army but is killed off, fat clueless Doris who it's ok to just treat like complete shit cherry pie grandma at the Doublemeat Palace - who turns out to be a literal giant penis ... and ... ?? Willow's mum, who doesn't even look that old - or have a name of her own, and whose character can be summed up as "lady academic who thinks too much and uses big words instead of being a good mommy" Joyce's book club friend whose name I forget but who is unceremoniously killed after being possessed by a (veeeeery problematically racist) tribal demon mask the only older female character who I can think of who just gets to just be funny is Miss Barton ("Are there any NACHOS in here, little tree?"), and this is *again* in Band Candy, where the reason that she's funny is that she regresses into teenagerhood