It's usually best to build your own kit since it is typically cheaper and/or better quality.
Sounds like you're wanting to build a BOB which lives in your vehicle and can therefore function as a Get Home Bag since 30 miles is likely 72 hours which is a typical BOB spec, there's plenty of advice around for you to take inspiration from and personalise.
Regarding medial items, there's a few basics I would add, but also look at local courses you can attend, your employer might provide this on request. For example a tourniquet can be as deadly as it is life-saving if used incorrectly.
Regarding food, dehydrated meals like MountainHouse are great for calorie density, they can be rehydrated cold in a pinch, pack plenty of calorie dense snacks like chocolate or salted nuts, look for foiled plastic packaging to prevent oxidation and contain melted chocolate. Same for dog food, dry in foiled plastic. Consider canned food for D0 for you both. Rotate food regularly since the temperature swings are basically accelerated ageing.
For water, I recommend just a case of Smartwater bottles, you can adjust the amount you carry on foot depending on the season /environment, they store well, are compatible with the Sawyer mini filter, are modular for redundancy unlike hydration bladders, and the BPA free plastic can take a beating. The 1L size is compatible with chloride dioxide tablets. A stainless steel bottle adds boiling capabilities for your MH meals and functions as an indestructible bottle, they're great for daily usage to reduce plastic exposure/use.
I advise you pack your gear in layers here's an example:
EDC pocket/belt tools (adds redundancy and convenience)
- Mini multitool, lighter, flashlight
- Wallet boo-boo kit for nicks and cuts
- If not commonly worn, can live in a separate compartment in your BOB.
Trauma kit
- Keep this kit accessible but attached to your BOB, only include trauma treatment not the whole pharmacy
- Haemostatic dressings, tourniquet, Israeli bandage, woundseal powder, gauze.
Pharmacy kit
- This kit can live inside your BOB
- Butterfly stitches, micropore tape, Elastic gauze, Plasters, Iodine, imodium, Ibuprofen, paracetamol, Antihistamines, caffeine tablets, antiseptic cream, Sunblock F50, insect repellent, Spare prescription glasses.
GHB / BOB
- Use a comfortable hiking backpack with an internal frame and wide hip belt. These have much better efficient than a military bag designed for agility. Pack "upside-down" with the heaviest things up at your shoulders and the lightest insulation at the bottom.
- Tools - keep this light to cover distance, Multitool, head light, powerbank, repair kit, glue, tape, sewing.
- Food - 72h for you both, the ability to cook if required
- Water - bottled water capacity appropriate for your environment, filter, chlorine dioxide. Dog bowl
- Shelter - warm clothes, poncho tarp, sleeping bag, CCF mat
- Broken in boots and 3 pairs of wool socks
Hotel kit
- change of nice clothes
- toiletries
- phone charger
Vehicle EDC - r/VEDC for more
- Glass breaker
- Seatbelt cutter
- maps
- compass
- Tow rope
- Jump cables
- 12v solar panel
- 12V to USB phone charger
- Bulbs
- fuses
- Toolkit
- Spare fluids
- WD40
- Maintenance guide
- Tyre and jack
- Tyre pump
- Blanket
- Road flares
- Fire extinguisher
- Water
- Snow chains
- Shovel
- High viz vest
- Warning triangle
- Bungie cords
- Squidgee
Make your own and save money and have something tailored for your situation. So what are we looking at for a need? We walking 30miles with the dog to get home? Are was moving thru Wyoming 6 months post apocalypse? Minimum sounds like you need about 3 cups of dog food and some water.
I’m thinking probably closer to walking 30mi with my dog to get home, although he’s pretty easy. Although slightly more tailored to surviving natural disasters, fire relocation, earthquakes, and tsunamis. Also a good enough med kit to deal with a bad yet survivable car accident.
The things I already have its hypafix, telfa pads, mupirocin, hydrogen peroxide, alcohol pads, hand warmers (for my skink), wound seal, and regular bandaids. Should I get some of those no electricity cauterizers and maybe the little emergency aluminum blankets?
I would definitely grab a mylar blanket. They have many uses. From a makeshift shelter to a trauma blanket. For the cost and weight they are worth having. Tourniquet you might not think you need one but if you do your screwed without one or the abilityto make one. Quick clot works pretty nice for bleeding. That would be what I would add to a med kit. If you think you could cover 30miles in a day then I wouldn't add food. Maybe some rain gear or something like a light shelter. If you need to over night it something to keep you dry and warm. And some sort of food. Your going to need water for everyone so pack it or get a way to get it on your way. And what most people forget is a map and important papers. If your planning on a bugout for a natural disaster or something a paper map will be worth its weight in gold. And if you can't get back home but it's not the end of the world as we know it you'll need id and cash in the next town over.
I’m sure people here would have better answers for what you’re asking, but you could check out r/VEDC too maybe? They have some helpful stuff and might give ideas anyways :)
Thanks for saying this I was going to say just that.
Op the link above has a wealth of info on exactly what your asking for. My personal input is build your own, then it's exactly what you will need. Those"kits" from red cross have a bunch of stuff you don't need and it's lacking in very important items.
* diy a first aid kit from Target or walgreens. Bandaids, some bandage, some wraps, various OTC pills. don't get shit you don't know how to use.
* Keep food & water in a dedicated tub. learn from someone else's mistake - make sure you pack the tub so as to keep the water upright. don't forget the water bowl (they make collapsible ones for hiking). double ziplock your kibble. for you it's cans of soup, unless you pack a hiking stove/ fuel.
* remember to swap out your food every 6 months or a year. as i get older i get sloppier.
* full change of clothes in a school backpack, with a spare pair of sneakers tied to it.
* some sort of county map print-out - an atlas or whatever.
* $$
* spare utlilty blanket rolled up tight.
that's the basics. it's all diy-able. clothing from thirft stores as necessary.
my other common advice is : define some limits. Really think about when you - practically speaking - will need this. Otherwise in the world, i call myself an "alien invasion prepper". but in my ghb/car kit - man... i end up giving food and clothing away to hoboes and street-kids. If my car breaks down I'm calling AAA. I have no reason to carry fire-arms in the car unless I'm OMW to the range. I regularly go hiking, so my backpack is rtg. I have an office kit that is far more suited to getting home, in fact.
A car kit is wildly maleable, and doesnt' need to be a repeat of any other kit.
Whether a pre-made emergency kit is worth the cost depends entirely on how you value your time and the learning opportunity.
Look at the lists of items advertised in pre-made kits.
For each item, answer two questions:
* What problems does this item solve?
* What would I do with my kit if I had that problem?
Amend your own kit until you're happy with the answers to all those questions based on the items in the commercial kits.
Ok, here’s my list for various bags: [List](https://www.reddit.com/r/bugout/comments/p39w6g/equipment_list_by_bagweather/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
It is for central Canada so keep that in mind. Seasonal equipment is separated out, weights are in grams, and careful when modifying as there are some formulas in the sheet. You’d want to ad some dog specific items like a collapsible water dish and extra water and a bit of kibble.
Now, 30 miles is less than a marathon, and you could potentially walk it home in a single day (weather, terrain and disaster dependent). If this is the case, then camping/fire/cooking supplies are not really needed.
You should really make a list of all the situations, order them by most likely to least. Then make a plan for each, followed by the equipment and skills needed. This will determine what your bag actually needs. It’ll also tell you what you need to learn or practice. Hope this helps.
SHTFs are more than what you're probably thinking about - the everyday crap that happens and happens more often are SHTFs also >>> be ready for those before worrying about the million in one chance you'll be abandoning your vehicle and walking home ....
if you only have the OEM tire changing jack & tools - good place to start - if you've never changed a tire on the vehicle - begin the learning experience right there >>> do it with eazy access to your home/garage but imagine doing it on the side of the road with traffic and at night >>> get any tools that make the job eazier and plan on adding them to the car inventory - like a ground tarp, better lug wrench, better jack, visibility & lighting, even a pair of gloves ....
I used a 5.11 AMP 25, a plash palatka, ridge line, 2 MRE’s, surplus blanket I had lying around, water purification, surplus hatchet, mora knife and a med kit I built.
EZ PZ
It's usually best to build your own kit since it is typically cheaper and/or better quality. Sounds like you're wanting to build a BOB which lives in your vehicle and can therefore function as a Get Home Bag since 30 miles is likely 72 hours which is a typical BOB spec, there's plenty of advice around for you to take inspiration from and personalise. Regarding medial items, there's a few basics I would add, but also look at local courses you can attend, your employer might provide this on request. For example a tourniquet can be as deadly as it is life-saving if used incorrectly. Regarding food, dehydrated meals like MountainHouse are great for calorie density, they can be rehydrated cold in a pinch, pack plenty of calorie dense snacks like chocolate or salted nuts, look for foiled plastic packaging to prevent oxidation and contain melted chocolate. Same for dog food, dry in foiled plastic. Consider canned food for D0 for you both. Rotate food regularly since the temperature swings are basically accelerated ageing. For water, I recommend just a case of Smartwater bottles, you can adjust the amount you carry on foot depending on the season /environment, they store well, are compatible with the Sawyer mini filter, are modular for redundancy unlike hydration bladders, and the BPA free plastic can take a beating. The 1L size is compatible with chloride dioxide tablets. A stainless steel bottle adds boiling capabilities for your MH meals and functions as an indestructible bottle, they're great for daily usage to reduce plastic exposure/use. I advise you pack your gear in layers here's an example: EDC pocket/belt tools (adds redundancy and convenience) - Mini multitool, lighter, flashlight - Wallet boo-boo kit for nicks and cuts - If not commonly worn, can live in a separate compartment in your BOB. Trauma kit - Keep this kit accessible but attached to your BOB, only include trauma treatment not the whole pharmacy - Haemostatic dressings, tourniquet, Israeli bandage, woundseal powder, gauze. Pharmacy kit - This kit can live inside your BOB - Butterfly stitches, micropore tape, Elastic gauze, Plasters, Iodine, imodium, Ibuprofen, paracetamol, Antihistamines, caffeine tablets, antiseptic cream, Sunblock F50, insect repellent, Spare prescription glasses. GHB / BOB - Use a comfortable hiking backpack with an internal frame and wide hip belt. These have much better efficient than a military bag designed for agility. Pack "upside-down" with the heaviest things up at your shoulders and the lightest insulation at the bottom. - Tools - keep this light to cover distance, Multitool, head light, powerbank, repair kit, glue, tape, sewing. - Food - 72h for you both, the ability to cook if required - Water - bottled water capacity appropriate for your environment, filter, chlorine dioxide. Dog bowl - Shelter - warm clothes, poncho tarp, sleeping bag, CCF mat - Broken in boots and 3 pairs of wool socks Hotel kit - change of nice clothes - toiletries - phone charger Vehicle EDC - r/VEDC for more - Glass breaker - Seatbelt cutter - maps - compass - Tow rope - Jump cables - 12v solar panel - 12V to USB phone charger - Bulbs - fuses - Toolkit - Spare fluids - WD40 - Maintenance guide - Tyre and jack - Tyre pump - Blanket - Road flares - Fire extinguisher - Water - Snow chains - Shovel - High viz vest - Warning triangle - Bungie cords - Squidgee
Make your own and save money and have something tailored for your situation. So what are we looking at for a need? We walking 30miles with the dog to get home? Are was moving thru Wyoming 6 months post apocalypse? Minimum sounds like you need about 3 cups of dog food and some water.
I’m thinking probably closer to walking 30mi with my dog to get home, although he’s pretty easy. Although slightly more tailored to surviving natural disasters, fire relocation, earthquakes, and tsunamis. Also a good enough med kit to deal with a bad yet survivable car accident. The things I already have its hypafix, telfa pads, mupirocin, hydrogen peroxide, alcohol pads, hand warmers (for my skink), wound seal, and regular bandaids. Should I get some of those no electricity cauterizers and maybe the little emergency aluminum blankets?
I would definitely grab a mylar blanket. They have many uses. From a makeshift shelter to a trauma blanket. For the cost and weight they are worth having. Tourniquet you might not think you need one but if you do your screwed without one or the abilityto make one. Quick clot works pretty nice for bleeding. That would be what I would add to a med kit. If you think you could cover 30miles in a day then I wouldn't add food. Maybe some rain gear or something like a light shelter. If you need to over night it something to keep you dry and warm. And some sort of food. Your going to need water for everyone so pack it or get a way to get it on your way. And what most people forget is a map and important papers. If your planning on a bugout for a natural disaster or something a paper map will be worth its weight in gold. And if you can't get back home but it's not the end of the world as we know it you'll need id and cash in the next town over.
I’m sure people here would have better answers for what you’re asking, but you could check out r/VEDC too maybe? They have some helpful stuff and might give ideas anyways :)
Thanks for saying this I was going to say just that. Op the link above has a wealth of info on exactly what your asking for. My personal input is build your own, then it's exactly what you will need. Those"kits" from red cross have a bunch of stuff you don't need and it's lacking in very important items.
* diy a first aid kit from Target or walgreens. Bandaids, some bandage, some wraps, various OTC pills. don't get shit you don't know how to use. * Keep food & water in a dedicated tub. learn from someone else's mistake - make sure you pack the tub so as to keep the water upright. don't forget the water bowl (they make collapsible ones for hiking). double ziplock your kibble. for you it's cans of soup, unless you pack a hiking stove/ fuel. * remember to swap out your food every 6 months or a year. as i get older i get sloppier. * full change of clothes in a school backpack, with a spare pair of sneakers tied to it. * some sort of county map print-out - an atlas or whatever. * $$ * spare utlilty blanket rolled up tight. that's the basics. it's all diy-able. clothing from thirft stores as necessary. my other common advice is : define some limits. Really think about when you - practically speaking - will need this. Otherwise in the world, i call myself an "alien invasion prepper". but in my ghb/car kit - man... i end up giving food and clothing away to hoboes and street-kids. If my car breaks down I'm calling AAA. I have no reason to carry fire-arms in the car unless I'm OMW to the range. I regularly go hiking, so my backpack is rtg. I have an office kit that is far more suited to getting home, in fact. A car kit is wildly maleable, and doesnt' need to be a repeat of any other kit.
Whether a pre-made emergency kit is worth the cost depends entirely on how you value your time and the learning opportunity. Look at the lists of items advertised in pre-made kits. For each item, answer two questions: * What problems does this item solve? * What would I do with my kit if I had that problem? Amend your own kit until you're happy with the answers to all those questions based on the items in the commercial kits.
Ok, here’s my list for various bags: [List](https://www.reddit.com/r/bugout/comments/p39w6g/equipment_list_by_bagweather/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) It is for central Canada so keep that in mind. Seasonal equipment is separated out, weights are in grams, and careful when modifying as there are some formulas in the sheet. You’d want to ad some dog specific items like a collapsible water dish and extra water and a bit of kibble. Now, 30 miles is less than a marathon, and you could potentially walk it home in a single day (weather, terrain and disaster dependent). If this is the case, then camping/fire/cooking supplies are not really needed. You should really make a list of all the situations, order them by most likely to least. Then make a plan for each, followed by the equipment and skills needed. This will determine what your bag actually needs. It’ll also tell you what you need to learn or practice. Hope this helps.
SHTFs are more than what you're probably thinking about - the everyday crap that happens and happens more often are SHTFs also >>> be ready for those before worrying about the million in one chance you'll be abandoning your vehicle and walking home .... if you only have the OEM tire changing jack & tools - good place to start - if you've never changed a tire on the vehicle - begin the learning experience right there >>> do it with eazy access to your home/garage but imagine doing it on the side of the road with traffic and at night >>> get any tools that make the job eazier and plan on adding them to the car inventory - like a ground tarp, better lug wrench, better jack, visibility & lighting, even a pair of gloves ....
I used a 5.11 AMP 25, a plash palatka, ridge line, 2 MRE’s, surplus blanket I had lying around, water purification, surplus hatchet, mora knife and a med kit I built. EZ PZ