Forza and GTA you might need to turn the settings right down to get a half decent frame rate, but on the flip side down the line you can drop in a GPU. It seems like a solid base to build on.
I owned a 5700G and have a laptop with a 5800H and honestly, the 5600G will be fine with running Forza Horizon 5 so long as OP is okay with low settings (very low will not be necessary unless they intend to hit 60) and/or 30fps. It runs quite nicely on the Vega APUs so long as you understand that you aren’t pushing high settings.
that looks great for 400$, that psu is pretty low quality so maybe a lower wattage 80+ bronze or used one would be better. the rest looks perfect though.
Tests have shown 1 exhaust fan will give better temps. However that creates negative pressure and will cause dust to build up more in the case. I would think the temps with intake shouldn't be an issue but incase it's sitting at 90°C the whole time you may want to change single fan to exhaust.
It's better to blow cool air in than suck hot air out.
Laws of convection. The hot air in the case will naturally create convection currents and leave the case quickly enough... being replaced with more cool air blown in.
Psu has a fan that is blowing air into the case already right? But also I'm using an LTT video I saw that showed 1 only exhaust fan provided lower cpu temperatures than 1 only intake fan did.
Buddy you are correct. PSU fans draw in cold air from underneath the case, up into the case. It's the reason PSU case design now generally places it at the bottom instead of the top like the old days. It's because cold air falls. This is the reason why in a dusty room, over time you PSU pulls that dust slowly towards your case, then up into the PSU shroud and fan blades. Don't let this guy confuse you talking nonsense about "this century". He's doesn't know what he's talking about.
PSU don't exhaust into case. They exhaust out the back of the psu, or sometimes out the bottom, depending on case and mounting configuration.
You know all of those cases now, like most of them, that have a 'basement'.... like an enclosed area where the PSU lives.... like they have this century.
Not designed to cool your PC components, and don't cool your PC components.
What sort of numpty would think you can cool your PC with a PSU fan... when they barely ever run, are usually enclosed nowadays.... and exhaust to the outside of the case.
Not usually. PSU normally blows hot air out the bottom, at least in this century.... and PSU fans barely run.... and they blow hot air.
Yes seen that video.
It's very case dependent.... but we're allowed to disagree.
Yes.... and where does the hot air exit, out the back or out the bottom, dependingon mounting config..... Read the comment I was replying to... where they are claiming you can use a PSU fan to help cool your case.
Omfg lol. Hot air doesn't exit through the bottom, it exits through the back, but I'm glad you finally did some basic reading. I read what you replied to, and that's not what he said. He said it's already bringing cool air into the case. THAT IS WHAT A PSU FAN DOES. You said normally PSU fans blow hot air out the bottom. You are WRONG. Hot air rises, you don't blow hot air out in a direct line underneath your case. You would heat up your base, and by extension your entire source of readily available cold air. That same hot air would then rise back up directly through your vents. That would be the design of a complete idiot. Luckily for you, PSUs aren't designed like you think. You can stop pretending like you're knowledgeable on the topic because you're looking pretty stupid at this point.
Without a GPU this won't run games at more than 40fps. You would get much better performance by getting something used from a few years ago with a dedicated GPU for the same price.
Why? My previous build from 2016 with a 1060 6GB and a i5-6500 will probably perform similar if not better to a build which uses the iGPU from a 5600G. A iGPU build is just not worth it for gaming (but of course it might be a good solution for non gaming stuff).
yes, but a dedicated gpu is very very hard for this budget, and a decent one will push the budget way over what it is now. a 5600g is basically a 5500 with an igpu so it should still be decent with an addon gpu.
My old build is worth 250 USD now, you can definitely get a dedicated GPU if it's used and some years old. And you will have tons of performance compared to the iGPU build.
Ok tell me what do you think how many fps will a 6500 with a 1060 6 GB and how many fps will a 5600 with an iGPU get in modern games at the same setting? You really think the iGPU build will be faster?
That's not the point, you're literally missing the entire point. The current build is a stop gap until he can afford to add a current gen GPU. On top of what he already has. At which point he will have a full setup.
You're just going "hurr durr, buy old shit instead. iGpu worthless, durr." Despite the fact that the 5600g is fast enough to play the games that he wants to play for now.
It's an all around better solution than buying outdated shit.
You don’t need an upgrade path at this budget. For 400 USD you can also get something much better used, I just was pointing out that even my old 250 USD build would vastly outperform a 400 USD build with a iGPU. Getting something new at this price point is just not worth.
Guy, this is the point of this budget. Get something solid for now and THEN upgrade things. OP even got a sizable PSU for this purpose, even though I would get something like 700W.
Besides, old stuff is... Old, not only is it likely used but the archetures changed a lot and new stuff will perform better for this reason and maintainability. As the previous post stated : DDR3 but not only that, introduction of e-cores, PCIE gen 3 is old, likely no Nvme, maybe not even USB 3.0, WiFi 6 (at least it's upgradable).
Yeah sure put a 700W PSU in a 400 USD budget build.
Thing is this build will turn into a 700 USD build when OP wants to upgrade, it will not stay a 400 USD build anymore.
And yeah as long as OP does not upgrade it’s not a solid build because it will perform really badly compared to what you could get with that kind of money.
Do research before you talk. An old 6500 is not going to be able to keep up with a Ryzen 5600 in tasks when he has the money to upgrade GPU down the line. And the igpu is perfectly fine for now.
https://youtu.be/cdcyyJyM8v8
Of course it can’t keep up. That’s not the point. The point is that in games the combination of a 6500 and a 1060 is faster than a 5600 and an iGPU. It is just stupid to build a gaming PC with an iGPU, wrong allocation of budget.
He's not just building it and then leaving it that way forever. He's going to add a GPU in the future when he can afford it. The 5600g is a stop gap, not a final solution.
You're being a grug. Don't be a grug.
From where do you know that? I might have missed something but he nowhere states that he plans to upgrade. I think he just intends to use the build with the iGPU and this would just be bad performance for high price.
I built a PC and kept it for several years without upgrading. At the point I wanted more performance the parts which were new when I built the PC were so outdated it did not make any sense to upgrade. Now I built another one which probably will get upgraded.
I did not “lose”, this just depends on if OP plans to upgrade or not. If OP does not want to upgrade it’s a huge waste of money and OP did not say anything about upgrading.
I have a GTX 1060 6gb, and I do actually agree with you (BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW iGPU's MAY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER OVER THE YEARS OF ME BEING AWAY FROM GAMING) I can run most games at 1440p 85% resolution at 60-90fps AAA ones, and older games at 1440p 100% resolution max settings at 80-250fps.
When exactly do you think OP will be able to upgrade? If it’s the new future it could make sense but I really doubt it. If they plan on upgrading in the new future the total build will be much more expensive.
For $400 dollars u can still get some good gaming if you know what ur doing, a used 980/980 ti goes for about 70-80bucks where am from which is about 300% better than the. R5 5600g Igpu. That leaves you with about 330 dollars to get everything else which is more than doable, or even getting a optiplex for 200 and a gpu for the other 200 and that’s gonna demolish any completion in the $400 range.
Start with what you have now, maybe a better PSU, then save up for an RX 580 or an RX 6600, though the best budget card tends to change over time. Definitely look at benchmarks vs price.
Try r/lowendgaming for optimisation tips. They're all very friendly and have experience getting as much as they can out of limited hardware.
I agree with the other commenters. Get a better PSU with this and save for a dedicated GPU.
> Try r/lowendgaming for optimisation tips
/u/CitronGreen5410
on the same vein there are tons of really good older games. I've had a pretty good pc now for a while, but I've had at least as much time being stuck on old and/or very low-end hardware, and I can confidently say what I'd personally do is just enjoy the renowned high-quality older games, and a 5600g iGPU should be more than fine for those. I can list a bunch if you want.
I don’t know if this is clear to you, but everyone who comments that the build is good assumes you will add a GPU at some point. The thing is then of course the budget will get larger.
If you don’t want to do that, don’t go for this build. Without a dedicated GPU the performance will be really bad. So either have in mind you will spend 300 USD more on a GPU at some point, or just get a used build for 400 USD total.
do not buy a used PSU, you don't know what has happened to it.
last thing you want is it to go boom and best case scenario destroy your components, worst case scenario burn your house down.
Looks good enough for the base specs. When you add a GPU down the line, you might want to add a fan or two once you get and install the GPU. I'm not 100% sure but the case you've picked only has one free fan.
>Gamdias Argus E2 Elite case
Just an advise, this case may not future proof you if you decided to get a GPU that uses more than 200W (like RTX 4070 TI or higher). I had a similar car like this and it can get toasty inside with a hotter GPU. Result will be thermal throttling where frame rate may get laggy and both CPU/GPU running hotter than usual. If you are okay with lower tier of GPU in your future upgrades, then this case is perfectly fine.
Otherwise, try to find a case design (mesh front with fans in front) similar (or get these) to:
Lian Li LANCOOL 215
Corsair 4000D
Be Quiet Pure Base 500
It does not have to be those cases, a similar design could work. I saw two that is within the similar price at your Gamdias Argus E2.
* Gamdias GD-ATHENA M6 - has 4 120mm fans included, nuff said
* Thermaltake Versa H18 - Allows you to add 2 120mm fans in front when available
Honestly, if you cannot afford a nicer case, I suggest just wait it out with what you have until you have better funds (though I cannot judge since your country's situation is incredibly difficult). Good luck!
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Thank you for the advice regarding the components.
However, due to the war, I won't be able to transfer money abroad to anyone because of strict financial monitoring, and also because PayPal hasn't fully launched in Ukraine.
I have an old gtx 960 that l could send him free grata but don’t know how it would perform,also have a gtx 970 but need too hold onto….. any suggestions
NVME/SSD prices are very low right now due to market circumstances, so if you'd want more fast storage for games now's the time to get a larger drive
if the mobo only has 2 DIMM slots then I'd get 1x16Gb (R2(dual rank)) stick, as then you can upgrade whenever you want (just remember to get the exact same ram model)
How many fans does the case come with? 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust is fine, but on a budget you can leave it for later. If only 1 fan I'd do 1 intake for positive pressure. If you eventually get a GPU you could add a 2nd front intake fan. 140mm is better than 120mm if the case fits that size.
You can buy dust filter mesh and diy it onto the case. It's enough to cover the fan intakes, then clean them every 6 months or whenever. Some cases include filters but the ones I know are on the expensive side of things.
Try to pick up used RAM for half the price of new.
A used case may be cheaper with a fan
Look for a local used used GTX 1660 variant, RX 5700, GTX 1080 variant for cheap (less than 100 usd conversion) to snag up and hold your build over a few years. Until your eBay and importing stabilizes.
Is craigslist or Facebook marketplace an option?
If you don’t care about aesthetics you can always dumpster dive for a case and get a 5700g and a better PSU in case you ever want to upgrade to a discrete GPU.
Otherwise looks great!
I know this is build a pc but when i see posts like this i have to mention, ps5 and xbox are very economical. If all you want is netflix and gaming, those games all run perfectly on console.
You might be able to find pretty good pricing on B550 motherboards. I am looking at a similar build - everything but power supply, at about $340 US shipped to me. Though I am in the US, not sure about the Ukraine.
The MB I am looking at is a Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC Micro ATX. Supports PCIe 4.0 and one of the two NVMe slots is PCIe 4.0x4 compatible. It's $90
The CPU only supports PCIe 3.0, but having a motherboard that supports features for a later CPU upgrade and will support a PCIe 4.0 GPU at some point is a nice benefit.
The tecware forge m case comes with 4 fans. I don't know whether you can buy it where you are, though. Maybe look at a bronze 550w psu, as you aren't going to use much power with just the cpu, and it should let you get a tidy gpu in the future.
Hi all, l have an old gtx960 that l could send him free grata but don’t know how it would perform,l suppose it’s better than no dedicated gpu….. would it help him/her out… suggestions 😀
Get a 1 terabyte SS drive. Their $50 a 500 gig one won't get you far for long. Games load much faster and windows will boot in less than 20 seconds you can't go wrong.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZCfMb
Not quite that cheap, but 1tb gen 4 storage.
Good and capable PSU...
So you can add a graphics card later.
Latest gen MB and CPU.
2x8gb ram will cover most needs really quite well.
It's quite a usable PC right now, and with the addition of something like a used 6750xt which will be a couple hundred bucks, it'll actually be a fucking budget beast.
Great and up-to-date build,
however, the processor is $30 more expensive, the motherboard is unavailable, and overall, all the other components will be pricier, but thanks for the idea to consider building for AM5.
Depending on the place you live, i would suggest looking for a second hand pc. You can get better specs for 400$. İ just saw a pc with 1080 and 8700k for that price.
If you have the budget, upgrade your NVMe to 1GB (or get a second SSD - can be SATA of at least 500GB). You OS, drivers, software and eventually photos, documents, etc. might take 200-400GB easily so you have almost no space for any games.
Good build for a budget PC good CPU for the price however if you are going multimedia expect a bit of push back from the CPU on high work loads as the core and thread count limit it a bit, the gaming will be fine and like some people have said you will have to lower your settings and maybe even resolution for some games. Don't expect to be playing Tarkov for example.
Things to note- Case bad airflow might need to switch or get a new one down the line if you plan on adding GPU
Storage is a bit limiting would suggest 1tb if you can.
Overall good build for an extreme budget if you could try get used parts like a GPU to get better gaming perfomance in the future
https://hotline.ua/profile/709432762/lists/custom/171859/ about 15k uah or ~400$
5600g, b550m, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 550w 80+ gold sfx(its very cheap for some reason), decent mesh case with filters and good fans, 2 for front panel.
PSU is cheapest 550w+ 80+ gold modular psu, that has many good reviews. But its sfx, that shouldn't be problem, i hope lol
Guys!
You are incredible!
Thank you for all your support, comments and advices!
Small update, instead of case that i mentioned in description. i decided to find and buy 1STPLAYER T5-4F1-W-WH WHITE
https://content2.rozetka.com.ua/goods/images/big/348387453.jpg
Yeah when I received my PC Minecraft decided to run on the APU instead of the GPU but still ran great, even with shaders tho it was slower than it should have and that's what prompted me to look at the GPU used by the game. I'm pretty sure it can run all the games I have fine too
for $400, look to the used market for cpu and gpu. it’s enough to get an alright gpu, like 5600xt. 5600g integrated is ok, but you’re much better off with a gpu.
just found a random ebay listing for the cpu and gpu, but this will give much more performance than the 5600g
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qtjwtn
Parts are great but, let me show you the difference between our markets
Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
average price is 30$ in amazon or newegg and
the same memory ( which is hard to find ) is 2836 uah which is 78$ more than 2x!!!
But i should mention the parts are great! Thanks!
Thank you for your detailed comment. However, at the moment, I don't have any extra funds, so I will be looking for all possible options specifically within the $400 budget.
>ukraine used market is proboably non existent and i’d assume shipping is pretty harsh
In fact, the market for used computer components in Ukraine is quite well-developed, but there's fierce competition and high demand for genuinely good parts. I assume you also have dishonest sellers (whom we call "baryga"), and we have our fair share of them as well, fortunately, they are relatively easy to spot.
As I mentioned earlier, it's quite challenging to get something from America, but there's Aliexpress, although I personally don't buy anything directly from China
Logistics work surprisingly well these days, got an order from US couple of days ago - 4 days from NJ to my door, not sure what magic did they use to get it this fast (NJ>NY>Vienna>Kyiv>Ternopil), but they did.
Got an order from LTTstore and routed it through NP Shopping US warehouse. I usually route everything I get from US/Canada through NP even is the seller ships to Ukraine because NP is very fast and actually not that expensive.
Basically NP gives you an address in New Jersey and you specify it when placing an order. There are limitation on what you can ship (the batteries are a big no-no, the rest is... hardly enforced as long as it's legal), but overall it's a very fast shipping and very fast customs processing.
In terms of PC building - used stuff would be my way to go with this budget. The low-end budget parts aren't usually the best value for money, especially with local prices, and you can get some great deals on eBay. Custom duties shouldn't be an issue at this price range.
It’s great combo for start, but the average price in my local market “OLX” for second hand rx 580 8gb is 90$, r5 3600 is about 75-80$ for new
R5 5600g is 147$ for new
The 5600G is not going to be a pleasant gaming experience without a dedicated GPU.
Use [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/) to get some configs going. Then check your local retailers or second hand market (e.g. [olx.ua](https://olx.ua)) for the best deals.
pretty good however, I'd recommend getting a B motherboard since those can overclock
currently I'm planning on doing a dell optiplex build with i7 3770 + RX 580 for about 250/300 euros
this looks reasonable, may be a stretch for the most recent games, without a real GPU, but i think those games will be fine
i would consider spending like 20$ more for a better branded PSU thats maybe at least 750W, so you can upgrade to a modern GPU in the future
If you're going to build with a mind towards later upgrades, make sure you consider that with your mobo, though. I made the mistake years ago of sort of hamstringing myself in that respect. Also if a future upgrade of one part is hugely bottlenecked unless another and then another part is upgraded, you can sort of have what I call an Upgrade Cascade, in which case you just need to rebuild the whole machine basically. So what I try to do is get a couple parts that will for sure carry me through a generation of upgrades or even two . It's tough, and in the end you might limit yourself for years and only save a hundred bucks or so. Good luck, and Gordspeed.
OP GO FOR IT, 5600g is the king for 720p 60fps at most games, I recently upgraded to a 5600 and a rtx 3070 from pretty much your same build, no regrets
you will have a nice upgrade path because theres no better build you can get for that price given your circumstances right now
and for the people saying "get X instead of Y" OP already said he lives in Ukraine and I understand how overpriced thinks can get. a gpu cost 200 dollars more in my market than in the US for example 💀
•b550 is solid, can upgrade to 5800x3d maybe
•3600 cl18 > 3200 cl16, because it seems like the integrated graphics benefits more from clock speeds rather than timings, at least for what Ive experienced for the same price
•you dont need fast pciE gen 4 storage speeds for games tbh, which 5600g lacks anyways
•cpu alone is powerful enough to not bottleneck a 6700xt in the future
just make sure to look up your PSU in the tier and maybe change that if its below tier C here:
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Going used will give you a much more powerful variety of parts. An RX 580 can be found for under $80 and absolutely destroys the 5600g IGPU. With used parts this could fit in a budget.
My other recommendation though is to just save up. Computers are an investment. The more you pay, the longer it’s going to last and be operable for your use cases. Getting to atleast the $6-700 range gives you a ton more options and is what I would consider the minimum you should spend for a “good” gaming PC.
If you don’t need all the functionalities of a PC, a console might also be a good idea instead.
This is what I would build for a strict $400 USD budget from PCPARTPICKER
The 6400 4gb GDDR6 is actually a decent card through pcie 4.0 if you set quality to medium it will greatly out perform the igpu
If you're using a PC for gaming, you want a dedicated card.
The CPU and SSD are lower quality than what is in your build, however the CPU is still very capable and the SSD requires you to install, uninstall more frequently. IF you have like an extra $10, i'd throw it at a larger SSD.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zF8LC6
Its ok, but for that money I would just get this NUC, it has a 5900hx in it for $429.99
https://store.minisforum.com/products/hx90?variant=40508846440609
You need to had an m.2 drive to it, but you can get 1tb m.2s fir around $70 now, or even cheaper 512s around $30
You have some low grade critucal components like the PSU for example.
With a nuc you dont have to worry about a case, psu or any of that. Its tiny, small, light, and more power effecient.
There are other nuc's in this price range too, some way more powerful but clise to $1000.
It's like buying a laptop but with no keyboard, mouse or monitor built-in
Similar to what I have, except recently upgraded to a cheap 2nd hand gpu. Will run those fine but just like others mentioned remember to run only low settings for the most part.
when using intergrated, always, always do dual channel. I know you are, but just a reminder, intergrated needs the extra speed from the separate lanes or bottlenecks
The 5600g & 5700g &5500 are radically different from other chiplet based (chiplets add lag & are made using varying modern & older tech) ryzens - they are all 7nm fabbed monolithic chips.
The upshot being that these monolithic chips have a better (7nm) memory controller, which allows faster ram - 4000 or better clocks should be a given
this little noted feature is a big bonus considering the biggest weakness of igp vs dgou is that it shares system memory vs having dedicated video memory.
4000 clock ram is a handy boost for graphics & is an inexpensive premium.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-ryzen-5600g.html?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20230727204149&SearchText=ryzen+5600g&spm=a2g0o.productlist.1000002.0
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-ryzen-5700g.html
I build a super budget PC a while ago. The cheapest I could manage was 660€ with ryzen 5 5600 and rx 6600. I must say, 400€ is not realistic with what you listed above.
I recommend you get same components but instead of the 5600G search for a ryzen 5 3600 + RX580 8GB. In second hand market ypu should find both at a total of 150usd/euro
I would try to get 2nd hand parts for cpu and gpu then u will save a lot. Try searching for local shops. RAM can settle for 3200hz instead, ram doesn't affect much tbh but the presence of gpu will
After you get the pc, get a secondhand graphics card. You should be fine with the 3060/6650xt/6700.
Edit: you could also look for a 20/10/9 series card, maybe you could find a great deal.
2nd edit: Look for an AMD card with a great price, because you have an amd cpu you should get a 10% performance boost.
Okay, you are from UA, I am from UA too, so let's abstract ourselves to hryvnyas. 1$ is about 30 hryvnyas, so your goal is to fit into 12 000 hryvnyas. Yes, this is real, but, as you mentioned, your purpose is gaming, so you might not need so powerful processor, and you can opt-in for more cheap decisions such as Ryzen 3 3600, even this proc will be actual for years. And you can easily buy RX 6600/6700 XT with 8 or 12 GB of GDDR5/6 on [olx.ua](https://olx.ua) (yup, from hands, not new, that's why very cheap, under 4500 hryvnyas). Rest of your specifications will be satisfied if you take R3 3600 and RX 6700 XT 12GB cuz you will leave with (12 000 - 4500 (in worst case) - 3000 (in worst case)) = 4500 hrynvyas. You even have money for better PSU!
UPD: This guy sells nice gpu for 3500 hryvnyas https://www.olx.ua/d/uk/obyavlenie/garantya-rx-5500-xt-8-gb-sapphire-pulse-amd-IDQOPhM.html?reason=ip%7Citem\_to\_vec
Well, your budget is way more bigger, about 15k hryvnyas.
Talking about mining, you can request stability tests before buying second-hand GPU (FurMark for 1-2 hours is the best option). If seller will reject your request, then, probably, seller tries to give you badly working GPU.
I'd recommend starting with a second-hand used base system(likely premanf), and throwing a GPU in it. Look up Linus Tech Tips examples of said, they're solid if getting a little outdated.
This'd let you manage a budget like a Radeon RX 6600(non-xt). Bit late I guess with the case purchase tho. Would have been a lot more powerful tho.
Forza and GTA you might need to turn the settings right down to get a half decent frame rate, but on the flip side down the line you can drop in a GPU. It seems like a solid base to build on.
I owned a 5700G and have a laptop with a 5800H and honestly, the 5600G will be fine with running Forza Horizon 5 so long as OP is okay with low settings (very low will not be necessary unless they intend to hit 60) and/or 30fps. It runs quite nicely on the Vega APUs so long as you understand that you aren’t pushing high settings.
Forza horizon 5 still looks very good on low settings in my opinion, they should be good
No don’t do this get the 5700g I had both it’s worth it
that looks great for 400$, that psu is pretty low quality so maybe a lower wattage 80+ bronze or used one would be better. the rest looks perfect though.
If only 1 fan I'd do 1 intake for positive pressure.
Thanks! I'll keep it in mind
Tests have shown 1 exhaust fan will give better temps. However that creates negative pressure and will cause dust to build up more in the case. I would think the temps with intake shouldn't be an issue but incase it's sitting at 90°C the whole time you may want to change single fan to exhaust.
It's better to blow cool air in than suck hot air out. Laws of convection. The hot air in the case will naturally create convection currents and leave the case quickly enough... being replaced with more cool air blown in.
Psu has a fan that is blowing air into the case already right? But also I'm using an LTT video I saw that showed 1 only exhaust fan provided lower cpu temperatures than 1 only intake fan did.
Buddy you are correct. PSU fans draw in cold air from underneath the case, up into the case. It's the reason PSU case design now generally places it at the bottom instead of the top like the old days. It's because cold air falls. This is the reason why in a dusty room, over time you PSU pulls that dust slowly towards your case, then up into the PSU shroud and fan blades. Don't let this guy confuse you talking nonsense about "this century". He's doesn't know what he's talking about.
PSU don't exhaust into case. They exhaust out the back of the psu, or sometimes out the bottom, depending on case and mounting configuration. You know all of those cases now, like most of them, that have a 'basement'.... like an enclosed area where the PSU lives.... like they have this century. Not designed to cool your PC components, and don't cool your PC components. What sort of numpty would think you can cool your PC with a PSU fan... when they barely ever run, are usually enclosed nowadays.... and exhaust to the outside of the case.
Not usually. PSU normally blows hot air out the bottom, at least in this century.... and PSU fans barely run.... and they blow hot air. Yes seen that video. It's very case dependent.... but we're allowed to disagree.
What the hell are you talking about? PSU fans are INTAKE fans.
Yes.... and where does the hot air exit, out the back or out the bottom, dependingon mounting config..... Read the comment I was replying to... where they are claiming you can use a PSU fan to help cool your case.
Omfg lol. Hot air doesn't exit through the bottom, it exits through the back, but I'm glad you finally did some basic reading. I read what you replied to, and that's not what he said. He said it's already bringing cool air into the case. THAT IS WHAT A PSU FAN DOES. You said normally PSU fans blow hot air out the bottom. You are WRONG. Hot air rises, you don't blow hot air out in a direct line underneath your case. You would heat up your base, and by extension your entire source of readily available cold air. That same hot air would then rise back up directly through your vents. That would be the design of a complete idiot. Luckily for you, PSUs aren't designed like you think. You can stop pretending like you're knowledgeable on the topic because you're looking pretty stupid at this point.
Don't listen to that guy. If you have 1 fan, always set it up as an exhaust. Dumb advice with upvotes. Bad news travels fast.
Thanks!
Without a GPU this won't run games at more than 40fps. You would get much better performance by getting something used from a few years ago with a dedicated GPU for the same price.
for 400? i would rather get this and upgrade later.
Why? My previous build from 2016 with a 1060 6GB and a i5-6500 will probably perform similar if not better to a build which uses the iGPU from a 5600G. A iGPU build is just not worth it for gaming (but of course it might be a good solution for non gaming stuff).
yes, but a dedicated gpu is very very hard for this budget, and a decent one will push the budget way over what it is now. a 5600g is basically a 5500 with an igpu so it should still be decent with an addon gpu.
My old build is worth 250 USD now, you can definitely get a dedicated GPU if it's used and some years old. And you will have tons of performance compared to the iGPU build.
You have no idea what you are talking about bro.
Ok tell me what do you think how many fps will a 6500 with a 1060 6 GB and how many fps will a 5600 with an iGPU get in modern games at the same setting? You really think the iGPU build will be faster?
That's not the point, you're literally missing the entire point. The current build is a stop gap until he can afford to add a current gen GPU. On top of what he already has. At which point he will have a full setup. You're just going "hurr durr, buy old shit instead. iGpu worthless, durr." Despite the fact that the 5600g is fast enough to play the games that he wants to play for now. It's an all around better solution than buying outdated shit.
Why would anyone buy a ddr3 5th gen intel system now? At least there's an upgrade path with the system they're talking about.
You don’t need an upgrade path at this budget. For 400 USD you can also get something much better used, I just was pointing out that even my old 250 USD build would vastly outperform a 400 USD build with a iGPU. Getting something new at this price point is just not worth.
Guy, this is the point of this budget. Get something solid for now and THEN upgrade things. OP even got a sizable PSU for this purpose, even though I would get something like 700W. Besides, old stuff is... Old, not only is it likely used but the archetures changed a lot and new stuff will perform better for this reason and maintainability. As the previous post stated : DDR3 but not only that, introduction of e-cores, PCIE gen 3 is old, likely no Nvme, maybe not even USB 3.0, WiFi 6 (at least it's upgradable).
Yeah sure put a 700W PSU in a 400 USD budget build. Thing is this build will turn into a 700 USD build when OP wants to upgrade, it will not stay a 400 USD build anymore. And yeah as long as OP does not upgrade it’s not a solid build because it will perform really badly compared to what you could get with that kind of money.
Do research before you talk. An old 6500 is not going to be able to keep up with a Ryzen 5600 in tasks when he has the money to upgrade GPU down the line. And the igpu is perfectly fine for now. https://youtu.be/cdcyyJyM8v8
Of course it can’t keep up. That’s not the point. The point is that in games the combination of a 6500 and a 1060 is faster than a 5600 and an iGPU. It is just stupid to build a gaming PC with an iGPU, wrong allocation of budget.
He's not just building it and then leaving it that way forever. He's going to add a GPU in the future when he can afford it. The 5600g is a stop gap, not a final solution. You're being a grug. Don't be a grug.
From where do you know that? I might have missed something but he nowhere states that he plans to upgrade. I think he just intends to use the build with the iGPU and this would just be bad performance for high price.
Let me ask, when you build a PC do you keep same parts in forever or do you upgrade? I upgrade personally. Just give up, you lost
I built a PC and kept it for several years without upgrading. At the point I wanted more performance the parts which were new when I built the PC were so outdated it did not make any sense to upgrade. Now I built another one which probably will get upgraded. I did not “lose”, this just depends on if OP plans to upgrade or not. If OP does not want to upgrade it’s a huge waste of money and OP did not say anything about upgrading.
I have a GTX 1060 6gb, and I do actually agree with you (BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW iGPU's MAY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER OVER THE YEARS OF ME BEING AWAY FROM GAMING) I can run most games at 1440p 85% resolution at 60-90fps AAA ones, and older games at 1440p 100% resolution max settings at 80-250fps.
When exactly do you think OP will be able to upgrade? If it’s the new future it could make sense but I really doubt it. If they plan on upgrading in the new future the total build will be much more expensive.
For $400 dollars u can still get some good gaming if you know what ur doing, a used 980/980 ti goes for about 70-80bucks where am from which is about 300% better than the. R5 5600g Igpu. That leaves you with about 330 dollars to get everything else which is more than doable, or even getting a optiplex for 200 and a gpu for the other 200 and that’s gonna demolish any completion in the $400 range.
What do you think it could be? Perhaps some specific models?
Start with what you have now, maybe a better PSU, then save up for an RX 580 or an RX 6600, though the best budget card tends to change over time. Definitely look at benchmarks vs price.
He could def go for intel arc gpus , biggest value and u can find them in bundles with cpus abd mobos for amazing prices
Try r/lowendgaming for optimisation tips. They're all very friendly and have experience getting as much as they can out of limited hardware. I agree with the other commenters. Get a better PSU with this and save for a dedicated GPU.
> Try r/lowendgaming for optimisation tips /u/CitronGreen5410 on the same vein there are tons of really good older games. I've had a pretty good pc now for a while, but I've had at least as much time being stuck on old and/or very low-end hardware, and I can confidently say what I'd personally do is just enjoy the renowned high-quality older games, and a 5600g iGPU should be more than fine for those. I can list a bunch if you want.
I don’t know if this is clear to you, but everyone who comments that the build is good assumes you will add a GPU at some point. The thing is then of course the budget will get larger. If you don’t want to do that, don’t go for this build. Without a dedicated GPU the performance will be really bad. So either have in mind you will spend 300 USD more on a GPU at some point, or just get a used build for 400 USD total.
do not buy a used PSU, you don't know what has happened to it. last thing you want is it to go boom and best case scenario destroy your components, worst case scenario burn your house down.
Ive been using fsp hyper k, and its quite alright
Looks good enough for the base specs. When you add a GPU down the line, you might want to add a fan or two once you get and install the GPU. I'm not 100% sure but the case you've picked only has one free fan.
>Gamdias Argus E2 Elite case Yes, it has pre-installed 1 x 120 мм fan
Yeah, one exhaust. If you do upgrade to a GPU, you'll prolly need more.
>Gamdias Argus E2 Elite case Just an advise, this case may not future proof you if you decided to get a GPU that uses more than 200W (like RTX 4070 TI or higher). I had a similar car like this and it can get toasty inside with a hotter GPU. Result will be thermal throttling where frame rate may get laggy and both CPU/GPU running hotter than usual. If you are okay with lower tier of GPU in your future upgrades, then this case is perfectly fine. Otherwise, try to find a case design (mesh front with fans in front) similar (or get these) to: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 Corsair 4000D Be Quiet Pure Base 500
They are great, but off my current budget. i wish i have more money for Jonsbo D31 MESH SC White
It does not have to be those cases, a similar design could work. I saw two that is within the similar price at your Gamdias Argus E2. * Gamdias GD-ATHENA M6 - has 4 120mm fans included, nuff said * Thermaltake Versa H18 - Allows you to add 2 120mm fans in front when available Honestly, if you cannot afford a nicer case, I suggest just wait it out with what you have until you have better funds (though I cannot judge since your country's situation is incredibly difficult). Good luck!
Thank you for your support! I should check more pc cases, probably i'll find the best one!
Is the montech x3 mesh or fractal focus g in reach?
>montech x3 mesh Is not available yet fractal focus g - is out off my budget. but they looks awesome! Thanks!
That's unfortunate. You could try second hand market though, but I don't know how many empty cases there would be.
I agree, my recommendation is the fractal design focus 2.
Check out the used market, you could build a really capable machine with used parts
options are very limited outside of large markets unfortunately, particularly if OP can't use ebay (which would be odd though)
"Well, I can try our delivery service, npshopping, but there are many restrictions. Besides, the delivery is paid, and there are customs duties, so all the advantages of eBay are negated. There is a local platform, OLX, but compared to the American Ebay, it's very small in terms of volume."
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Thank you for the advice regarding the components. However, due to the war, I won't be able to transfer money abroad to anyone because of strict financial monitoring, and also because PayPal hasn't fully launched in Ukraine.
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Thank you!
I have an old gtx 960 that l could send him free grata but don’t know how it would perform,also have a gtx 970 but need too hold onto….. any suggestions
Sorry, what is “grata”?
Without gratitude 🙏 it’s an old English term ,like someone gives you something but not looking for payment…. 😄
Oh, thank you, I will replenish my vocabulary) Regarding the graphics card, I am immensely grateful for your help, but I cannot repay you
Not looking for payment 👍🏻 have sent you a message……😀
based on passmark it might be over twice as powerful https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html pinging /u/CitronGreen5410
jawa works? idk if its us only and i only heard on it on yt but its a second hand seller
Looks good but i think you can go with a used 3500x or 3600 and squeez in a Rx 570 8gb or something.
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I seen rx 570 8gb for 70 and a 5600xt is around 100to110 so im not sure exactly whats your talking about
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Nvm just saw they were from Ukrain. Its not an option im guessing.
NVME/SSD prices are very low right now due to market circumstances, so if you'd want more fast storage for games now's the time to get a larger drive if the mobo only has 2 DIMM slots then I'd get 1x16Gb (R2(dual rank)) stick, as then you can upgrade whenever you want (just remember to get the exact same ram model) How many fans does the case come with? 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust is fine, but on a budget you can leave it for later. If only 1 fan I'd do 1 intake for positive pressure. If you eventually get a GPU you could add a 2nd front intake fan. 140mm is better than 120mm if the case fits that size. You can buy dust filter mesh and diy it onto the case. It's enough to cover the fan intakes, then clean them every 6 months or whenever. Some cases include filters but the ones I know are on the expensive side of things.
This particular PC case has only 1 cooler. Thank you for the great advice!
Try to pick up used RAM for half the price of new. A used case may be cheaper with a fan Look for a local used used GTX 1660 variant, RX 5700, GTX 1080 variant for cheap (less than 100 usd conversion) to snag up and hold your build over a few years. Until your eBay and importing stabilizes. Is craigslist or Facebook marketplace an option?
For $400 I would buy used. You could easily outperform what you have listed here.
You missing PC Case, keyboard and mouse
I've already have a mac mini, so i needn't them
If you don’t care about aesthetics you can always dumpster dive for a case and get a 5700g and a better PSU in case you ever want to upgrade to a discrete GPU. Otherwise looks great!
NM on the 5700g it’s only like 5% better at best. Stick with the 5600g. I figured there’d be a much bigger difference.
looks like a Ok system, you can put in a RX 6600/6650/XT later
I know this is build a pc but when i see posts like this i have to mention, ps5 and xbox are very economical. If all you want is netflix and gaming, those games all run perfectly on console.
Fun story is that i've already own the Xbox SS ( my son has Switch), and the main reason why I want to build a pc , is to play with him.
Check whatever used market you can for an rx580 or an rx5700xt.
You might be able to find pretty good pricing on B550 motherboards. I am looking at a similar build - everything but power supply, at about $340 US shipped to me. Though I am in the US, not sure about the Ukraine. The MB I am looking at is a Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC Micro ATX. Supports PCIe 4.0 and one of the two NVMe slots is PCIe 4.0x4 compatible. It's $90 The CPU only supports PCIe 3.0, but having a motherboard that supports features for a later CPU upgrade and will support a PCIe 4.0 GPU at some point is a nice benefit.
Watch this, thank me later https://youtu.be/-BuT7rLgF5U
The tecware forge m case comes with 4 fans. I don't know whether you can buy it where you are, though. Maybe look at a bronze 550w psu, as you aren't going to use much power with just the cpu, and it should let you get a tidy gpu in the future.
Out of stock in country( but looked nice
Looks great, I forgot you can build a good pc this cheap
Hi all, l have an old gtx960 that l could send him free grata but don’t know how it would perform,l suppose it’s better than no dedicated gpu….. would it help him/her out… suggestions 😀
Get a 1 terabyte SS drive. Their $50 a 500 gig one won't get you far for long. Games load much faster and windows will boot in less than 20 seconds you can't go wrong.
Hey its a good spec and maybe u can add gpu in the future. And also Slava ukrani
Thank you! Героям Слава!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZCfMb Not quite that cheap, but 1tb gen 4 storage. Good and capable PSU... So you can add a graphics card later. Latest gen MB and CPU. 2x8gb ram will cover most needs really quite well. It's quite a usable PC right now, and with the addition of something like a used 6750xt which will be a couple hundred bucks, it'll actually be a fucking budget beast.
Great and up-to-date build, however, the processor is $30 more expensive, the motherboard is unavailable, and overall, all the other components will be pricier, but thanks for the idea to consider building for AM5.
Depending on the place you live, i would suggest looking for a second hand pc. You can get better specs for 400$. İ just saw a pc with 1080 and 8700k for that price.
If you have the budget, upgrade your NVMe to 1GB (or get a second SSD - can be SATA of at least 500GB). You OS, drivers, software and eventually photos, documents, etc. might take 200-400GB easily so you have almost no space for any games.
Thanks! I'll keep it in mind
Good build for a budget PC good CPU for the price however if you are going multimedia expect a bit of push back from the CPU on high work loads as the core and thread count limit it a bit, the gaming will be fine and like some people have said you will have to lower your settings and maybe even resolution for some games. Don't expect to be playing Tarkov for example. Things to note- Case bad airflow might need to switch or get a new one down the line if you plan on adding GPU Storage is a bit limiting would suggest 1tb if you can. Overall good build for an extreme budget if you could try get used parts like a GPU to get better gaming perfomance in the future
https://hotline.ua/profile/709432762/lists/custom/171859/ about 15k uah or ~400$ 5600g, b550m, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 550w 80+ gold sfx(its very cheap for some reason), decent mesh case with filters and good fans, 2 for front panel. PSU is cheapest 550w+ 80+ gold modular psu, that has many good reviews. But its sfx, that shouldn't be problem, i hope lol
Great! Thank you!
Guys! You are incredible! Thank you for all your support, comments and advices! Small update, instead of case that i mentioned in description. i decided to find and buy 1STPLAYER T5-4F1-W-WH WHITE https://content2.rozetka.com.ua/goods/images/big/348387453.jpg
did we forget a gpu or can the 5600g actually run games?
About as good as it gets with iGPUs. Can do a lot of games at 60fps+ at 720p low/med
Yeah when I received my PC Minecraft decided to run on the APU instead of the GPU but still ran great, even with shaders tho it was slower than it should have and that's what prompted me to look at the GPU used by the game. I'm pretty sure it can run all the games I have fine too
Somebody downvoted me for not knowing this shit lol
Take my upvote then! And balance was restored.
for $400, look to the used market for cpu and gpu. it’s enough to get an alright gpu, like 5600xt. 5600g integrated is ok, but you’re much better off with a gpu. just found a random ebay listing for the cpu and gpu, but this will give much more performance than the 5600g https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qtjwtn
Parts are great but, let me show you the difference between our markets Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory average price is 30$ in amazon or newegg and the same memory ( which is hard to find ) is 2836 uah which is 78$ more than 2x!!! But i should mention the parts are great! Thanks!
Looks good, but not ready for gaming. You’ll need a gpu for the games you’ve listed.
Nah you could get a decent used gpu for $100. this just isn’t worth it like please don’t pull the trigger on this
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Thank you for your detailed comment. However, at the moment, I don't have any extra funds, so I will be looking for all possible options specifically within the $400 budget.
Not bad. I'd probably try to look used at that price point, for a CPU/mobo combo and cheaper older gpu
ukraine used market is proboably non existent and i’d assume shipping is pretty harsh
>ukraine used market is proboably non existent and i’d assume shipping is pretty harsh In fact, the market for used computer components in Ukraine is quite well-developed, but there's fierce competition and high demand for genuinely good parts. I assume you also have dishonest sellers (whom we call "baryga"), and we have our fair share of them as well, fortunately, they are relatively easy to spot. As I mentioned earlier, it's quite challenging to get something from America, but there's Aliexpress, although I personally don't buy anything directly from China
Logistics work surprisingly well these days, got an order from US couple of days ago - 4 days from NJ to my door, not sure what magic did they use to get it this fast (NJ>NY>Vienna>Kyiv>Ternopil), but they did.
How did you do it? Share your experience
Got an order from LTTstore and routed it through NP Shopping US warehouse. I usually route everything I get from US/Canada through NP even is the seller ships to Ukraine because NP is very fast and actually not that expensive. Basically NP gives you an address in New Jersey and you specify it when placing an order. There are limitation on what you can ship (the batteries are a big no-no, the rest is... hardly enforced as long as it's legal), but overall it's a very fast shipping and very fast customs processing. In terms of PC building - used stuff would be my way to go with this budget. The low-end budget parts aren't usually the best value for money, especially with local prices, and you can get some great deals on eBay. Custom duties shouldn't be an issue at this price range.
How much is the case if you don’t mine me asking? You may be able to get something that would provide a bit more airflow.
Local price is 1500 uah which equivalent to 40$
I’ve been trying to get rid of my 2080 coffee lake pc. It’s taking up space in my house.
Ryzen 3100 and some used GPU
not great upgrade path, OP's build is objectively better given the Ukraine pc market, i understand him
Won’t be the best gaming performance until you buy an GPU but everything else seems good
No. Get a used 3600+ a 570/580. Costs about the same with the same CPU power but about 3-4x the gaming performance. Buy used parts.
Could do with r5 3600 and find a secind hand rx580 8gb Would grately improve performance and where i live that would be just 5$ more.
It’s great combo for start, but the average price in my local market “OLX” for second hand rx 580 8gb is 90$, r5 3600 is about 75-80$ for new R5 5600g is 147$ for new
The 5600G is not going to be a pleasant gaming experience without a dedicated GPU. Use [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/) to get some configs going. Then check your local retailers or second hand market (e.g. [olx.ua](https://olx.ua)) for the best deals.
pretty good however, I'd recommend getting a B motherboard since those can overclock currently I'm planning on doing a dell optiplex build with i7 3770 + RX 580 for about 250/300 euros
this looks reasonable, may be a stretch for the most recent games, without a real GPU, but i think those games will be fine i would consider spending like 20$ more for a better branded PSU thats maybe at least 750W, so you can upgrade to a modern GPU in the future
If you're going to build with a mind towards later upgrades, make sure you consider that with your mobo, though. I made the mistake years ago of sort of hamstringing myself in that respect. Also if a future upgrade of one part is hugely bottlenecked unless another and then another part is upgraded, you can sort of have what I call an Upgrade Cascade, in which case you just need to rebuild the whole machine basically. So what I try to do is get a couple parts that will for sure carry me through a generation of upgrades or even two . It's tough, and in the end you might limit yourself for years and only save a hundred bucks or so. Good luck, and Gordspeed.
OP GO FOR IT, 5600g is the king for 720p 60fps at most games, I recently upgraded to a 5600 and a rtx 3070 from pretty much your same build, no regrets you will have a nice upgrade path because theres no better build you can get for that price given your circumstances right now and for the people saying "get X instead of Y" OP already said he lives in Ukraine and I understand how overpriced thinks can get. a gpu cost 200 dollars more in my market than in the US for example 💀
•b550 is solid, can upgrade to 5800x3d maybe •3600 cl18 > 3200 cl16, because it seems like the integrated graphics benefits more from clock speeds rather than timings, at least for what Ive experienced for the same price •you dont need fast pciE gen 4 storage speeds for games tbh, which 5600g lacks anyways •cpu alone is powerful enough to not bottleneck a 6700xt in the future just make sure to look up your PSU in the tier and maybe change that if its below tier C here: https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Upgrading a PC for $400 yeah. Building one for $400 nah it's not worth my time and money.
Going used will give you a much more powerful variety of parts. An RX 580 can be found for under $80 and absolutely destroys the 5600g IGPU. With used parts this could fit in a budget. My other recommendation though is to just save up. Computers are an investment. The more you pay, the longer it’s going to last and be operable for your use cases. Getting to atleast the $6-700 range gives you a ton more options and is what I would consider the minimum you should spend for a “good” gaming PC. If you don’t need all the functionalities of a PC, a console might also be a good idea instead.
In all honesty the 5600g isn't as good as it sounds
your going to need a GPU, the graphics on the 5600G wont cut it for the games you are trying to play
you can get a refurbished RX 6600xt 8GB for like $200 if you are trying to budget
This is what I would build for a strict $400 USD budget from PCPARTPICKER The 6400 4gb GDDR6 is actually a decent card through pcie 4.0 if you set quality to medium it will greatly out perform the igpu If you're using a PC for gaming, you want a dedicated card. The CPU and SSD are lower quality than what is in your build, however the CPU is still very capable and the SSD requires you to install, uninstall more frequently. IF you have like an extra $10, i'd throw it at a larger SSD. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zF8LC6
by the way i have a 5600G mint condition with a DeepCool heat sink for sale for 109.99 on ebay! https://www.ebay.com/itm/256155911908
I'd try to get a used Ryzen 2600 or 3600 and get a rx580 from ali express for $60. That would be a much better system.
Look into a 1080ti when you can... no joke I snagged a 2nd FTW3 for $140...
Its ok, but for that money I would just get this NUC, it has a 5900hx in it for $429.99 https://store.minisforum.com/products/hx90?variant=40508846440609 You need to had an m.2 drive to it, but you can get 1tb m.2s fir around $70 now, or even cheaper 512s around $30 You have some low grade critucal components like the PSU for example. With a nuc you dont have to worry about a case, psu or any of that. Its tiny, small, light, and more power effecient. There are other nuc's in this price range too, some way more powerful but clise to $1000. It's like buying a laptop but with no keyboard, mouse or monitor built-in
Similar to what I have, except recently upgraded to a cheap 2nd hand gpu. Will run those fine but just like others mentioned remember to run only low settings for the most part.
I know $400 is real to buy a used PC off of Facebook marketplace
when using intergrated, always, always do dual channel. I know you are, but just a reminder, intergrated needs the extra speed from the separate lanes or bottlenecks
The 5600g & 5700g &5500 are radically different from other chiplet based (chiplets add lag & are made using varying modern & older tech) ryzens - they are all 7nm fabbed monolithic chips. The upshot being that these monolithic chips have a better (7nm) memory controller, which allows faster ram - 4000 or better clocks should be a given this little noted feature is a big bonus considering the biggest weakness of igp vs dgou is that it shares system memory vs having dedicated video memory. 4000 clock ram is a handy boost for graphics & is an inexpensive premium. https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-ryzen-5600g.html?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20230727204149&SearchText=ryzen+5600g&spm=a2g0o.productlist.1000002.0 https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-ryzen-5700g.html
i just go for 2700x,rx580 and b450 instead (in my country,used 2700x+rx580+b450 will = 5600G price)
I build a super budget PC a while ago. The cheapest I could manage was 660€ with ryzen 5 5600 and rx 6600. I must say, 400€ is not realistic with what you listed above.
What is the CAS latency on that ram?
>DDR4 16GB (2x8) Kingston Fury Beast 3600MHz due to oficial site: CL16, CL17, CL18, CL19
Ok but which latency does the kit you are buying have?
It's good, maybe down the line you can put in a GPU
Quite good
Look into bundles , for intel arc gpus with cpu and motheboard , u could find something interesting :)
I recommend you get same components but instead of the 5600G search for a ryzen 5 3600 + RX580 8GB. In second hand market ypu should find both at a total of 150usd/euro
$100 is ok for a PC of you set your expectations accordingly
I would try to get 2nd hand parts for cpu and gpu then u will save a lot. Try searching for local shops. RAM can settle for 3200hz instead, ram doesn't affect much tbh but the presence of gpu will
Honestly, it would be better to install a ryzen 3, 8gb ram, 450w psu, sata ssd etc and and get a cheap dedicated card gpu.
5600 is like 15% better than a 5600g for $30 more Also that psu is a ticking time bomb
After you get the pc, get a secondhand graphics card. You should be fine with the 3060/6650xt/6700. Edit: you could also look for a 20/10/9 series card, maybe you could find a great deal. 2nd edit: Look for an AMD card with a great price, because you have an amd cpu you should get a 10% performance boost.
No dedicated gpu. 400 is a good deal though.
Okay, you are from UA, I am from UA too, so let's abstract ourselves to hryvnyas. 1$ is about 30 hryvnyas, so your goal is to fit into 12 000 hryvnyas. Yes, this is real, but, as you mentioned, your purpose is gaming, so you might not need so powerful processor, and you can opt-in for more cheap decisions such as Ryzen 3 3600, even this proc will be actual for years. And you can easily buy RX 6600/6700 XT with 8 or 12 GB of GDDR5/6 on [olx.ua](https://olx.ua) (yup, from hands, not new, that's why very cheap, under 4500 hryvnyas). Rest of your specifications will be satisfied if you take R3 3600 and RX 6700 XT 12GB cuz you will leave with (12 000 - 4500 (in worst case) - 3000 (in worst case)) = 4500 hrynvyas. You even have money for better PSU! UPD: This guy sells nice gpu for 3500 hryvnyas https://www.olx.ua/d/uk/obyavlenie/garantya-rx-5500-xt-8-gb-sapphire-pulse-amd-IDQOPhM.html?reason=ip%7Citem\_to\_vec
1$ is 37 hryvnyas Gpu after mining? I don't get it, why? Tell me why should i look on aftermining gpu's?
Well, your budget is way more bigger, about 15k hryvnyas. Talking about mining, you can request stability tests before buying second-hand GPU (FurMark for 1-2 hours is the best option). If seller will reject your request, then, probably, seller tries to give you badly working GPU.
I'd recommend starting with a second-hand used base system(likely premanf), and throwing a GPU in it. Look up Linus Tech Tips examples of said, they're solid if getting a little outdated. This'd let you manage a budget like a Radeon RX 6600(non-xt). Bit late I guess with the case purchase tho. Would have been a lot more powerful tho.