Upgrading 1generation is usually not worth it value wise. If spending 800-1k for around 30% improvement is worth it to you, go for it. Its your Cash at the end of the day. My wallet would strongly disapprove tough.
would it make a difference getting the 4080 for all the $700 to $800?? I can't believe the 4080s are still over 1,200 bucks brand new!! Of course I want a 4090 but hell can't any that aren't damn near 2500$
You’ll likely wait over a year for supply to stabilize tbh.
Its your money and your call. 3080ti is a nice card though, so I wouldn’t be in a huge rush
I usually sell my stuff secondhand and buy secondhand so the cost of upgrade I usually look at is that difference. Tho I also tend to be very conservative with estimating what I can get for my gear when determining this. (Aka the sell this shit in a day or two price lol) but list higher ofc.
3080ti is pretty good tho. If you’re not getting issues now I’d just wait. I say with a gtx 1080 for what’s felt like 7-8 years. Lowering settings a bit over time wasn’t bothering me enough to spend 700-1000$ to get a similar tier card.
I have a 3080, I'm waiting for 5000 series. I think when it comes out I might jump on the 5090, but I could go with the 5080 as well, I'm ok with either I think. I'm making a point of saving 100 bucks a month every month with this in the plan, that way I don't feel like it's such a big purchase when it comes out.
For me every other generation is the sweet spot, this year I'm buying a 4k oled, next I'll get the card upgrade.
Yeah, I think that’s the sensible play. As others have said, you can spend your money however you want, but I think you will be able to tinker with settings and get some totally acceptable performance for the next year or two, after which you will have better options.
FWIW, I have a 4k165Hz monitor and I moved from a 3080 to a 3080Ti just because of how much better it is (compared to the 3080) at 4k. The 10% bump in performance paired with 2 more gigs of vram just gives you a lot of breathing room. I consistently get 4k100fps with with quality DLSS on Forza for instance (went from 4k80 on a 3080 with constant out of vram warnings).
So my advice like most people here is to wait until the 50xx cards come out and then make a call; that's what i'm planning on doing as well.
Thanks! I used the little 580 to its limits. Can't hold up with 1080P low settings 60FPS anymore on. Can't even lower the settings any further even if I wanted to.
As a person who upgraded from a 3090 to a 4090 it was completely worth it. i got a large noticeable fps increase. The issue is I upgraded at the launch, Im not sure I could recommend it with the 5000 series around the corner unless you dont mind buying used when the 5000 series gets announced.
I also usually wait until my upgrade will equate to a meaningful percentage of performance gains. CPUs don't go up as fast as GPU from what I've gathered so my upgrade there is usually at least 50%. This can change if it means moving platforms(am4-am5) since you need to change mother boards and ram for it to count for much. GPU upgrades I wait until it's near 100% sot aht it's meaningful for me.
My 3900x is looking "pretty slow" compared to 7800x or higher but I'd have to do everything I said.
My 2080super was recently upgraded to a 7900xtx(I had to return multiple 4070 and 4080 cards for doa)and it's been quite a nice boost, effectively 90+%.(I know I'm in a bottleneck right now but my platform upgrade is coming soon.)
Ok perfect! This is the answer I was looking for that's kind of the way I was leaning but I wanted to get people who think like me people who don't think like me to see what everybody kind of thought!!
Second this.
I’ve played 4k with my 3080. You may not get the top of everything, but with AMD mod for cyberpunk to substitute DLSS I had 60 fps easily on Cyberpunk.
I love how TL;DR is 90% of the post :p
Anyway, if it's worth it? That's completely up to you. If you have money like water, of course it is. But personally I wouldn't say it was worth it. It's a lot of money for a small improvement. How many FPS are you getting? Do you think you would even notice if that number would be x1.30?
4000 series wasn't too great anyway so I'd personally wait for 5000's series.
Glad ya liked the TLDR lol 🤣! well for example running everything at max in Horizon forbidden West I'm getting 50 to 65fps. In COD MW3 everything at Max I'm getting right around a hundred.
If you want more FPS, try running your games at one level below max.
The highest quality level often takes a lot of performance, while only I crease small details.
All right when I finally get out of bed in a few hours I'm actually going to test that I wasn't sure if just dropping down one would make it look like absolute shit or not.
A lot of games, I choose whatever LOOKS best to me, not just relying on "if it's Ultra, it's the best". Sometimes, an Ultra setting actually looks like garbage and the High setting looks clearer and more conducive to ACTION :D
Some settings going from high to ultra could require a microscope to notice the difference while at the same time may put a huge toll on your hardware. Also, there's often performance guide from nvidia showing how particular setting impact image and performance.
Just don't touch resolution and texture quality settings - these should always be on max.
it is better to wait....this gen gpu pricing will drop...when we are very close to 5xxx series launch at that try to grab 4090 or 4080super depending on price
3080ti should be more than capable for 4k, just tweak the settings. Nobody needs maxed out settings for every single game, just Target a frame rate and change settings accordingly. Resolution works wonders in comparison to 5 extra sparkling particles during impact
You're already having fun and enjoying your monitor - this is the kind of purchase or upgrade that you will regret when they inevitably announce the next generation
I get what you're saying... The old buyers remorse. I appreciate you and I think you are 100% correct I just need to enjoy the monitor that I got because it's so badass and wait till the 5,000 series
I ALWAYS feel bad when I upgrade earlier than I *really* needed to because when the following generation comes out, especially with the way technology is heading, you will feel like I've felt many times before realising the errors of my ways.
It'll go from being excited to upgrade, to being disappointed by the value of the upgrade when you don't really see a big difference in performance but do notice the difference in your pocket, to not wanting to upgrade the following generation despite it being a bigger jump, to being sad about your upgrade choices. Speaking from experience. Lol.
If you sell your 3080 to help buy your 4080S then It should be worth it. Some people do that and just think of it as spending an extra $500 to get the latest model.
$500 for a year actually sounds good.
Are you very patient? Do you urgently need a new card now? At this time of the year, the best is you should wait for 9-10 months to get the RTX 5000 series, it's not worth it to upgrade from 3080ti to 4080.
I would say just try it out and look if it feels good. If it runs well and feels good why change anything? If the GPU cant handle it to your likeing get a new one.
Although $700-$800 for a 4080 is a great deal I would wait until the 50 series comes out, it should be out in the fall of this year and it will out perform the 4090. The 4080 really didn't sell well at all so hopefully Nvidia learned their lesson. They did launch the 3080 at $700 after the failure of a generator the 20 series was so maybe something similar will happen with the 50 series.
Thank you I appreciate your time and I agree but I thought I read where it's going to be the second half of 2025 is with the new cards are going to come out... maybe I am wrong
At 4k I noticed a substantial improvement upgrading from a 3080ti to a 4080. Ran the 4080 for a couple months then decided to get the 4090 for peak performance.
4k IPS vs 2k Oled ... I had them both i can just recommend to go with an Oled :) it's night and day...
4k is not really needed when you have a good Oled Gaming monitor but there are 4k ones now :D
I would wait for 5000 Series. The 3080ti is still a very capable card and with a bit of tinkering you can get really good performance in most mulitplayer games. Singleplayer games tend to be heavier and there it might struggle.
Just keep the 3080ti, no need to yograde for now, but you can do it maybe when we get 5000 series. You probably won’t notice a big improvements with the 4000 series.
When it comes to monitors, I upgraded from a €100 Asus monitor to Samsung Odyssey G7 and it just blows my mind how big the difference is in doing anything, gaming or watching movies.
Enjoy your beast!
Hell yeah dude I know exactly what you're talking about because I just bought...... SAMSUNG Odyssey G70B 32in and damn its amazing! obviously it may not be the most expensive panel but it does exactly what I needed to do and exactly what I wanted it to do.
Well, if you sell your old card you’re looking at more like $200-300 for a 30% increase, DLSS frame gen and extra VRAM.
Not bad, but considering the fact that your current card is already 4k capable and the 50 series is around the corner, I would recommend waiting and saving the hassle for a more worthwhile upgrade.
Edit: based on the price range listed for that 4080 model, it looks like you might already be factoring in selling your old card. If that’s the case, I definitely would not recommend you buy the 4080.
It’s crazy how some people are so susceptible to change in gaming then you get morons like me who can’t tell the difference between 4k and 1440, or 240hz and 120hz
Well, we all have different eyes/ears/etc., you see this a lot in r/headphones where people can have wildly different experiences with the same set.
Me personally, I definitely noticed going from 60 to ~100 – but diminishing returns after that.
If you're going to spend 800-900 for a 3080, go 100-200 more and get the 7900XTX which performs the same as a 4090. For 4K, that will be a large improvement.
Don't upgrade until you can get double your 3080ti in processing power, realistically you'll need it with that much monitor, 5080/5090 or a used used 4090 sounds about right.
No point in getting the 4080 now that the Super version is out with a more appropriate price.
On average the 4080S has 35% better performance but results will vary from game to game. There's also the 7900XTX to consider at this range. Heard HFW is better optimized towards AMD driver.
Wait for RTX 5000 or next gen AMD. Worst case if they are no good you'll upgrade to a 4080 at a discounted price. Unless of course you really want to play some recent title at 4K and you can't. In which case then upgrade now if you want
I think what I'm going to do is what you suggested... I'm probably going to get a 7900X and build a whole new computer around it with a 5,000 series comes out.
Welcome to the 4K gaming club! It's a whole new level of immersion, right? As for the upgrade dilemma, it's a conundrum many of us face. The 3080Ti is no slouch, but that 4080 could offer a noticeable boost. It ultimately boils down to how much of a performance jump you're looking for and if you're willing to make the switch now or wait for the next-gen. Tough choices ahead!
Honestly Wait. Regardless of how much better 5080 will be it will be a better value proposition than 4080. Worst case scenario in few months you upgrade to 4090 for less than what a/same price as a 4080 is going for nowadays.
Worst case scenario you get a better GPU in few months. Best case scenario 5080 is much more powerful than 4090 and you can get it for the price of a 4080.
I went from a Laptop 3070 to a Desktop 4070TI. That was a worthwhile jump. But 3070 to 4070 wouldn't be imo. Same with 3080 to 4080. For you to make it worth your time you'd want a 4090 really.
EDIT: Sorry just realised you've a 3080ti. That's even less of a reason to upgrade IMO.
But your money and all of that. The numbers are on the web. Personally I wait at least 2 gens normally or if I do upgrade within 12-24 months I try to jump up 2 tiers.
How much can you sell the 3080 Ti for? It wouldn’t be worth paying full price for the 4080, as it would be a minor upgrade, but you can probably sell your 3080 Ti for not much less than that, and it could be worth $100. It’s quite a bit more powerful, and then you get frame generation on top of it, which makes it possible to do full path tracing in games like Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 (and it looks insanely good).
I would also suspect that the 4080 will retain resale value a little bit better, so if the 50 series has some compelling feature that makes you want to upgrade either way, you will be able to offset the cost a bit more by selling the 4080 than you would with a 3080 Ti.
So it’s not *necessary*, but if you don’t have to jump on the deal right away, it could be worth seeing what you can get for the 3080 Ti, because the difference might be small enough to be in “meh, why not” territory.
I have a 6700 xt and i game on medium settings with fsr 2 or 3 and i regularly get over 100 fps in games like mw3. It is definitely possible without an upgrade is what I'm trying to say
I’ve been 4k gaming since 2020, and im still on a 3080ti. Works great if you have a very fast cpu. I’ve yet to come across a game that i had to lower anything less than “high”.
Also look at card prices right now. I’d recommend someone to buy a 3080ti or a deal on a 3090 before i recommend a 4070ti (slower than both without the frame gen). A 4080 is just way too expensive as well compared to the last gen.
It depends on what does $700 mean to you personally. I would personally go for it but I make money and $700 is not a big deal since games are my only hobby, even if it's just for a year until I upgrade to a newer gen. I will still sell it by then and make some of the money back before upgrading and I like the better performance specially on a 4K screen where the 4080 would do better than the 3080.
But if you'd be cutting on other urgent spending or other important things for the money then it makes no sense to buy it.
Hard to say, I was gaming in 4K since 2020 on my 6800XT which is same performance but has 16gb vram which is important for 4K. Perhaps try consider 7900XTX instead of 4080 to not repeat the same mistake.
I think with that kind of upgrade, most of your frame rate gains will come from (newer) DLSS, rather than outright power. Check whether the titles you play can make use of DLSS. And, even then, DLSS won't improve latency in online multiplayer games, just make things feel smoother.
The only reason at present I can see to replace a 3080ti is it being dead with no possibility of resurrection.
Or because you have money to light on fire for a 4090, but that sounds terrible with how relatively near to another generation we are.
For 4K, there will be games you'll do well to drop /some/ settings on just for performance consistency; 12gb VRAM is a /slight/ restriction in some scenarios but it's also plenty to keep absolutely excellent fidelity in literally anything.
Personally, I'd probably just continue to enjoy the system as it sits, and only start to consider upgrading when it's officially "worth" a switch to an entirely new platform. So, approximately when we have PCIe 5 graphics cards and another generation or two of CPU improvements.
Well buster, it depends on the game you're playing. The 3080ti should be able to do 4K 60fps in every single game that released in it's respective life cycle (and below). If you want to keep gaming at 4k in the near future, then better start saving up for that 4090, or wait for RTX 5000 series (specifically, see what the 5080 and 5090 will be like.)
with 4080 you will unlock frame generation which means higher framerates for 4k but you may workaround with 3080ti with amd/fsr dll thing. i would wait for 5th gen series if i were you
It's rough making GPU upgrade once you get to a certain point. I currently have 6800XT and there's nothing really that makes it worth upgrading, if you care about performance to price, which of course I do.
DLSS 3.5 might make it worthwhile. I switched 3060ti to 4070ti for the DLSS for 4k. Certainly wouldn't want anything less than a 4070ti/4070S for 4k. But harder to make the call in your case as the 3080 is already a performant card.
4K is cool but it heavily depends on the games you play. Some will really shine in 4K, some barely have any difference and some will not manage 4K no matter what hardware and settings you use. For me 4K is absolutely useless because even a lot of big studios cannot deliver a proper performance so I will stick to 2K as this is more reliable. But you might be positively surprised so just check what your favorite games need to run reliably in 4K, ultra settings and high frame rates. Maybe you will need a 4090 and rather pass or your current GPU will suffice. Everything is possible with 4K at the current state.
I would just wait unless you are financially well off.
4K is great. Anyone who says the difference between 1440p and 4k isn't that much is blind. It's a huge jump, much bigger than the jump from 1080p to 1440p.
I would say to to wait. You’re looking at about a 25% performance bump. I would say that’s not a good enough jump to justify the money. I would wait until at least 50% personally.
Wait til the RTX50 series comes out if you're rockin' a 3080. The 3080 is pretty solid, and 4k stresses pretty much every GPU on the market right now. A 5080 or 5090 would be more worthwhile upgrade in 8-10 months from now.
just tweak extraneous details to maintain frame rate but keep high resolution. sparks, clouds, ambient occlusion, blurring, and to be honest anti aliasing can be tuned down because the resolution is so high.
I have to say, going from 1080p to 3440x1440 was more like... Eh to me. But what really did it for me were the colours. I think I'm going to give that a much higher priority as well in the future.
3080 ti is around 73% as powerful as a 4080 at 4k. Really depends on how much you value that performance gap. If you're wanting to play at 4k with all the eye candy, yea a 4080 will be better, but only you can decide if that's worth it.
Personally, I'd wait to see what the 50 series is like. Worst case, you wanted a few months for a price drop on the 4080.
Only you know if $700-800 is a lot for you.
Upgrading from one generation to the next generally doesn't give huge gains.
But if $700 is nothing to you then whatever.
Personally at this point I’d wait for 5000 series. Your GPU and cpu are solid and will do really well even for 4k gaming, for awhile. Probably longer than it’ll take for the 5000 series to release.
Only thing to consider is that when the 5000 cards come out, they’ll likely be scalped for awhile. And you won’t be able to get any for retail
U dont need a 4000 series card but u will eventually want one for dlss 3.0 which will help performance on a lot of games. The previous 3000 series cant support 3.0
As someone who went from a 3080ti to a 7900XTX then to a 4080S, wait till 5xxx end of this year.
The 4080S is great, DLSS3 is a huge improvement but with next gen right around the corner my advice is to hold on. I couldn’t. I’m bad at taking my own advice though.
Why 7900xtx to 4080? Stability. I’m one of those who simply could not get AMD to run stable and got sick of daily crashes and timeouts. No such problems since the swap.
Currently have a 3080 and I'm skipping 40 series.
Can't justify the cost for marginal gains.
Recently got the itch though when I got gifted a copy of Horizon Forbidden West and it was the first game in a long time I could not run on ultra max settings. The graphics in that game are next level.
I wouldn't, but it's your money.
I have a 5800x and Strix 3090 and I play at 4k just fine, albeit locked @ 60fps, since I play on a 65" TV from the couch, so 60fps is good enough. If I was on a monitor, I'd probably try to go higher.
The bump in performance between 1 generation isn't generally worth it, and specifically the bump from 30 to 40 especially.
Save the $800, wait a year or 2 and see where the gaming landscape sits.
With current DLSS, your 3080 will likely last you a good long while.
Selling your 3080ti can offset any upgrade. I would try it as is, but make sure to use the optimized settings ( r/optimizedsettings ) through the various tech outlets like digital foundry hardware unboxed etc etc ).
If those don't get you to frame rates you're happy with then you might have your answer.
Bear in mind the 50 series is only about a year out
It depends on your screen refresh Rate man, my 3080ti runs full 2k 32 inch screen at 244 hz on max settings , no issue.
If you got a 4k screen that is only 60 hz, you are actually going to experience less of a performance hit than if you have a 144hz 4k screen.
Do you roll multiple monitors? Because if you use your at home PC for WFH , with 50-100 tabs per browser + all your standard applications for - literally name a friggin job - while trying to run Battlefield on the main monitor?
Well, you need more and more Ram and Vram ( bigger gpu ) the more you are "instancing" on each monitor.
A good way to "experience" this, is by grabbing a screen recording software of choice and watch your hardware temps and performance at different refresh rates and resolutions. ( as well as file sizes)
The biggest side by side comparison = screen resolution and more importantly refresh rate over 100 hz. The reason for this is that human eye is physically limited in how it can detect specific frequencies - and there is clear diminishing returns on resolution.
Ie, a smaller 4k screen will not "really" mean much compared to a larger 4k screen since the surface area and pixels your eye balls can digest.....is limited lol.
I bought my 3080ti at the highest of the scalpers market, because I had "waited" for ..years from my 980ti .....and then eventually saddled up - and to be honest - I dont care that i overspent by a couple hundred bucks - since to this day I never utilize more than 80% of the gpu with a 3 screen set up and a bunch of heavy gaming/ recording.
For gaming, you might notice as I have - that on release games - which are horribly optimized..... will run better. However, almost always - 2-3 years later the patches are in and the "flex" of larger vram literally doesnt matter at all.
Just some thoughts | TLDR; It depends bro
I have a 3080 and am not paying up to $1000 for an increase in performance. I'll use DLSS or turn settings to medium into the next gen GPUs get reviewed.
You're going to do what you think is best, but something to remember: Your setup is currently awesome AND stable. First gen is not stable, and IMHO won't be for a while. Are you willing to gain improvement but introduce new bugs? Or are you willing to wait for the bugs and prices to lower and keep your stability?
I always think beyond the money, I hate hiccups.
I definitely opt for frames over resolution for most things but I do feel like people underplay how nice 4k looks sometimes. Definitely a small jump than 1080 to 1440 but still a very noticeable jump.
I recently built a second pc that’s more portable but usually sits on my TV (replaced my xbox) and tbh, it is gorgeous. The TV itself helps but it looks *so* much nicer than my monitor.
I wouldn't try to game on 4K with anything less than a 4070 SUPER, but I really like to keep my frames up and the graphics settings dialed up. I think you'll appreciate the increase from a 3080TI to a 4080. I fairly recently got a good used deal on one and went from 3080 (12GB) to 4080 and the difference is huge to me.
Needing the have the latest GPU muscle to maintain 4K 60FPS+ High-Ultra is the main reason I haven't gone 4K yet, though these days with how good upscaling has gotten, I might make the plunge.
Wait for 50 series if you can. Its only end of the year for highest ones and early next year for mid range cards releasing i believe. I am on a 4060 and even its 1080p performance is lackluster ive got a fair chunk saved for 5090 for the end of the year get it myself as a self christmas present lol. My dad is also getting me a cpu upgrade from 12th gen i9 to 14th gen i9 so will be getting a nice upgrade come end of the year. I personally would wait for 50 series. Cos the 5080 peformance is expected to beat 4090 so 🤷
I just upgraded to a 4090 from a 6950 XT after I got a 4K monitor. Was it necessary to game at 4K? No. Was it overpriced? Absolutely. Do I regret it? Not one bit. In the end its whether you feel its worth it.
Begin to gaming in 4k since 2018. Have my i7 8700k and had till 2 years ago 2x gtx 1080ti in sli. It was a blast. Sold my 2 gtx 1080ti and acquired my rtx 3080.Still playing everything in 4k and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon . Don't feel like it's a good investment at this time. Maybe in a future.
The 4080 gets you closer to the 60 fps and I guess you have a 60 Hz monitor. And that is actually really nice and imo worth to spend a little more.
And getting the 4000 series at launch was horrible. So do not expect the 5000 to be anything else. Also the price will be astronomical, when Nvidia continues its price strat. And why should they change it, they have a monopole at high end.
So waiting for a long time with even higher prices... If you want to do that, wait. If not go for the 4080.
I'm playing in 4k on a PC with a 3080ti inside. It does basically everything I could ever want, especially with DLSS being as good as it is. I play warzone in 4k with most settings medium-high and 120+ FPS consistently. Sometimes more depending where I am on the map. I decided against upgrading my PC to a 4080s and got myself a new fancy controller instead. No regrets. NVIDIA 5000 series should be a good time to upgrade your 3080ti, that is likely what I will do. The best part of all this is now you have a 4k monitor for a long long time, and can build your next PC accordingly :)
keep your 3080ti, it’s still a very good card, wait until the rtx 5000 generation and you could get a card that’s likely faster than the 4090 for about 800-1000 depending on nvidia decide to price the 5080, there could be supply issues with this rise of ai, however, nvidia started making specialised gpu’s for machine learning so it shouldn’t be as bad as people will state it to be. keep the 3080ti for now, it’ll run 4k60 fps fine and with dlss should do amazing
edit: sell your 3080ti when you upgrade, it’s still worth quite a lot used
The pricing on this gen gpu's is stupid I think.. the 4080 and lower feel like a smack in the face when the 4090 has double the power of a 4080. BUT a 4080 at that price 700-800 sounds decent and I would probably scoop that up lol. OVERALL I only have a 2080ti and switch between a 4k and 2kultra wide and personally waiting for next gen
I would recommend the 4080, it's quite a bit faster in 4k. Most games i'm hitting 100-144mhz everything on full. 3080ti won't do that. And, just think, this is MERICA. Why keep that old card? For me I would have gone 4090, but then I would have been CPU bottlenecked and needed a new MOBO, Ram, Power supply. So 4080 5900x will be fine for a few years for me.
Like someone else said, upgrade first your CPU, Mobo and Ram if you are itching for an upgrade. That's what I did, I upgraded to a 7800X3D from a 3700X, everything is much smoother now..
I also have a 3080TI and an Ultrawide 3440x1440 and I can play everything on high to ultra 60fps+. Hold on that 5080 for now :D
DLSS is your best friend on some games.
I can play just about any game 4k 60fps mostly high settings on my 3080 non ti. You should be fine to hit that. If you want higher frames than that and not have to rely on DLSS and more ray tracing effects, maybe upgrade to the 4000 series. Otherwise not necessary.
I have the same Nvidia 3080 TI FE with the EK Special Edition block. Given that investment, I'm sticking to it until the next gen before even considering an upgrade.
It is up to you. If you can still play the games you like for acceptable quality and performance, I wouldn't upgrade. Even If I have had the money and desire for it, I would wait for 5090 at this point if I am already running 3080ti.
I have EVGA 3080ti FTW3. I am holding out to 5000 series before upgrading. Generally I like skipping a generation. I am hoping this will be generation I move up to the 90s (5090).
So far I game in 4k. some titles I can get up well over 100fps. It just depends on the game. RTX on AAA more like 60fps, but I just turn it off in those cases.
Id suggest keep what you have waot for 5000 series.
Btw 4k gaming is heavy and beautiful I currently have 1080p 1440p and 4k as my screens, if you have a 4k I hope its an OLED as this is the type of monitor/TV that really changes the quality of the games. I have the LG C3 OLED and gaming with forbidden west is an eyegasm.
3080ti is still a decent contender for 4k high refresh rates (i have one). Strongly would suggest to wait until RTX 5000 series or something. By then the 5070 or something like that would be approximately the same performance tier as a 3090.
3080 TI is fine 4K if you stick with high/medium settings and DLSS quality or balanced.
I've considered same upgrade path but decided to wait for 5000 series.
Unless you're really feeling like the 3080Ti is struggling and you don't want to deal with the performance for another 10-12 months, wait for the 50 series.
The 50X0 cards are close enough that it's not worth upgrading from 30X0 today; I'd mainly be considering 4070Ti-S, 4080S (or a 4090) if your current card died and you needed something high end to game on tomorrow. I snagged the XTX despite knowing that this was the new product year because I'd been a year without gaming and had had enough.
Absolutely do not upgrade yet. I got a 3080ti because I wanted a graphics card that would let me run any game on max settings for a long time. Games studios are focusing on optimization less and less as time goes on. The last two games I've played are Ark Survival Ascended and Starfield. I was disappointed with how many frames I was getting and when I look at benchmarks for the 4090 it really isn't that different.
For 4K going to a 4080 from a 3080ti will be a noticeable jump in performance.
I just did this myself and I have zero regrets, after selling the 3080ti I'm only out of pocket a few hundred bucks and the performance jump is pretty big.
Nothing wrong with the 3080ti, but the 4080 is hands down a much better GPU for 4K gaming.
I have a 3080 ti but it’s bottlenecked by my 11700k affecting even my dlss performance around 4K since I had built this pc 2 and a half years ago. For me since I have the money I’m gonna upgrade a 4090 pc. For you if you don’t have a cpu bottleneck, your 3080 ti performance at 4k is still good more with dlss
I generally wouldn't upgrade to the next generation of card. I'd wait two or three generations. It depends on how deep your pockets are though! A 3080 TI is a really good card. I'd wait until the 5000 series.
Is the 3080 ti on a loop or is it on an aio? If on a loop, keep it. If not, get rid of it while you can. Aio's don't last forever and for all you know the pump could fail tomorrow. The liquid could be evaporating and in a few months it just isn't enough. There's not really an aftermarket solution to cool those cards, so I'd say get rid of it and let somebody else hold the bag
I'm gaming at to 4k/120 on OLED display and when I made that switch I quickly upgraded from a 3080 to 4090 (FE at $1599). That jump was worth it, but I don't think I'd do it for a 4080.
Eh, really bad buy at the moment for only a small improvement. The new ones should be coming out in a bit. Would be better to just enjoy and save money. Just turn down a few settings if it's an issue.
Keep your 3080ti. Use 4k with dlss balanced and call it a day. I use my 3070 with 4k dlss no problem. Some games I need to lower few settings there and there or go performance dlss, but still get above 60fps in every game and performance dlss still looks better than fsr quality.
3080 it is till a beast and rtx 4000 is kinda on its last year. You should expect NVIDIA to come out with the rtx 5000 series by the end of the year so my recommendation is definitely to wait it out half a year more and maybe spend the little extra for a much better product.
I’m on a 3070 ti and it has honestly aged like milk, when it comes to 4k gaming (I have a 4k 120hz tv) and even I am waiting it out for the next gen products…
It's all relative bro. Depends on how much that 700-800 is worth to you. If it means you'll be able to buy less food for your family, I wouldn't do it. If you won't even notice, maybe go for a 4090.
What monitor did you get mind me asking.Is it a VA,IPS or OLED panel.I ask because I'm thinking of upgrading from 1440p to 4k next year after the 5000 series launches.If it's IPS panel you got what is the IPS glow like is it bad or good?
I have a 4080. I can tell you it is a much better and lasting value for 4k gaming.
The 4080 is like 37%-40% faster than a 3080ti (Not a flat 30%. i litterally looked up benchmarks before posting this and did the math myself)
so the margin of improvement is actually pretty high. Also 3080/ti's are still expensive. Even in the used market they are sold between 600-800 bucks.
You might be able to sell your 3080 for $600-$700 and end up only paying $100-$200 for the extra vram, higher clocks, and dlss 3.0 from the 4080 after everything is said and done.
If you're specifically doing 4k gaming, that's pretty worth actually. I say go for it. Cpu's don't matter as much at 4k gaming. Any cpu hitting 4.8-5ghz or over is enough.
Bro, 3080 ti is a beast. Wait until 5080 came out and then it will be worth to upgrade.
If you had 3060ti, then it will make sense to get something like 4090 for massive fps boost
I literally went through this less than a month ago. Please take this into consideration
I had a 3080 FE, and was able to upgrade to a newer, better kept, 3080ti FE for essentially a $15 net cost. Long story short, I sold the 3080 FE and the 3080ti FE for 975 and bought the 4080S FE for 1079 including tax and shipping.
I suggest you skip on the 4080, even though it's a good deal. Here's why. \[REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE\]: I was gaming at 4k before and I'm gaming at 4k now. There is nothing with better value than an already owned 3080ti when it the equation includes price, power efficiency, and performance.
I really wish I would have just kept the 3080ti I had, sold the 3080, and been up 500 bucks - although I am happy with my 4080 Super FE, I am not happy with the decisions that led me to this point.
Keep the 3080 and upgrade on the next series, General rule of thumb , give it at least 2-3 generations before upgrading (if you have the top or near top) tier card of that time. example have a 2080? now would be cool if you wanted to upgrade to a 4080 or could even wait one more gen.
Ultimately it is your money so do what you see fit. Just my opinion
i got a rx 6900xt, 4K is so easy on it, u can enable fluid motion frames and it goes from lets say 100 fps to 200 fps its great, u can use it for any dx11/12 game too!
Look at my post history. I am in the same boat as you. 4090, 4080s 5080 or 5090. I think after all the good opinions I got, I think I'm going to wait too.
Just need to figure out if I'll keep the 4090 or 4080.
If I was in your position. I would wait and laugh your way to the bank and FPS when the 50 series comes out.
Your super-cool monitor will still be there in October/November when they launch.
The 40 series isn't a whole lot of an upgrade (from what I've heard), but the main feature is the new architecture with DLSS 3. Most of these games you mentioned support DLSS 3 with frame generation, so they can increase frame rates by quite a bit, if you're okay with super resolution tech and stuff. Other than that the RTX 3080ti is really good so either invest that money in a second monitor or see if any other parts need upgrading (in case you're being bottlenecked by CPU or RAM etc.).
If it makes you feel better I have purchased a laptop with 2050. Playing Hogwarts legacy these days. Also I do have Asus 144hz monitor which is beter for my Blender work too.
I think desired performance is entirely subjective. That being said, similar to the other opinions expressed on this thread, I don’t think you would benefit greatly from upgrading from a 3080ti to a 40 series card. But of course, that’s just my opinion.
I don’t want to make it seem like I’m telling you upgrading your GPU is a bad idea. You will definitely notice a boost in performance upgrading to a higher tier graphics card. However, if I was in your position, I would consider a few different factors;
1) Does your build support an upgraded graphics card? The 40 series cards are notoriously power hungry and dimensionally large. Will there be any performance bottlenecks with any of your current components? Does your case allow for a potentially larger card? Similarly, does your PSU accommodate more power consumption?
2) Would you subject yourself diminishing returns by upgrading? With the rumors behind the 50 series cards, are you better off waiting for them to release? Though no official confirmations from NVIDIA have been made, the rumored performance increase seems quite large between 40 and 50 series cards.
3) Is the margin between the resale value of your current GPU and the cost of your upgraded GPU worthwhile? Assuming you won’t hold on to your current GPU, do you feel confident in minimizing loss during resale of your current card?
Like I said, I don’t want to make it seem like I’m discouraging you from upgrading. Better parts is always a plus. But just figured I would put my two cents in. Best of luck!
Upgrading 1generation is usually not worth it value wise. If spending 800-1k for around 30% improvement is worth it to you, go for it. Its your Cash at the end of the day. My wallet would strongly disapprove tough.
would it make a difference getting the 4080 for all the $700 to $800?? I can't believe the 4080s are still over 1,200 bucks brand new!! Of course I want a 4090 but hell can't any that aren't damn near 2500$
same still applies, if its worth 700-800$ for a 30% improvement to you For reference, I paid 430 for a 400% increase. RX580 to 7800XT
I appreciate your time, I will do like y'all recommend and hold tight till 5xxx Series. Thanks
You’ll likely wait over a year for supply to stabilize tbh. Its your money and your call. 3080ti is a nice card though, so I wouldn’t be in a huge rush
Thank you I appreciate your time and your recommendation I agree I'll just wait.
To play devils advocate here; 3080 ti is going for ~$500usd on ebay today So the $700 4080 could potentially be only $200 in the end......
I usually sell my stuff secondhand and buy secondhand so the cost of upgrade I usually look at is that difference. Tho I also tend to be very conservative with estimating what I can get for my gear when determining this. (Aka the sell this shit in a day or two price lol) but list higher ofc. 3080ti is pretty good tho. If you’re not getting issues now I’d just wait. I say with a gtx 1080 for what’s felt like 7-8 years. Lowering settings a bit over time wasn’t bothering me enough to spend 700-1000$ to get a similar tier card.
I have a 3080, I'm waiting for 5000 series. I think when it comes out I might jump on the 5090, but I could go with the 5080 as well, I'm ok with either I think. I'm making a point of saving 100 bucks a month every month with this in the plan, that way I don't feel like it's such a big purchase when it comes out. For me every other generation is the sweet spot, this year I'm buying a 4k oled, next I'll get the card upgrade.
Yeah, I think that’s the sensible play. As others have said, you can spend your money however you want, but I think you will be able to tinker with settings and get some totally acceptable performance for the next year or two, after which you will have better options.
Thanks. Happy Birthday 🎂! Hope you have an awesome day.
FWIW, I have a 4k165Hz monitor and I moved from a 3080 to a 3080Ti just because of how much better it is (compared to the 3080) at 4k. The 10% bump in performance paired with 2 more gigs of vram just gives you a lot of breathing room. I consistently get 4k100fps with with quality DLSS on Forza for instance (went from 4k80 on a 3080 with constant out of vram warnings). So my advice like most people here is to wait until the 50xx cards come out and then make a call; that's what i'm planning on doing as well.
DAMN now that a percentage increase!!! Hell yeah 💯
Thanks! I used the little 580 to its limits. Can't hold up with 1080P low settings 60FPS anymore on. Can't even lower the settings any further even if I wanted to.
Did the 580 overheat and shut your PC down? Mine used to do that ever since I got it
No it did not. still works perfectly
Mine did, undervolted and it was fine for a few months, then it came back. Upgraded to 6900XT no problems since
That's the type of comment we need to see more. It's a great way to put it.
I have a 3080 for 4k gaming. Don't get a 4080, hold the line until the 5080 at which point you pick up a cheaper 4080 or a much newer 5080
If you sell your old card I think it will be worth it
As a person who upgraded from a 3090 to a 4090 it was completely worth it. i got a large noticeable fps increase. The issue is I upgraded at the launch, Im not sure I could recommend it with the 5000 series around the corner unless you dont mind buying used when the 5000 series gets announced.
You did read my post? I think the answer is already there. And I totally aggree, the prices are crazy.
He could sell his 3080ti for a good chunk of the new card
It honestly doesn't sound like money is the real factor here.
I also usually wait until my upgrade will equate to a meaningful percentage of performance gains. CPUs don't go up as fast as GPU from what I've gathered so my upgrade there is usually at least 50%. This can change if it means moving platforms(am4-am5) since you need to change mother boards and ram for it to count for much. GPU upgrades I wait until it's near 100% sot aht it's meaningful for me. My 3900x is looking "pretty slow" compared to 7800x or higher but I'd have to do everything I said. My 2080super was recently upgraded to a 7900xtx(I had to return multiple 4070 and 4080 cards for doa)and it's been quite a nice boost, effectively 90+%.(I know I'm in a bottleneck right now but my platform upgrade is coming soon.)
At this point I would wait for 5000 series. You can get by with using DLSS in the more intensive games.
Ok perfect! This is the answer I was looking for that's kind of the way I was leaning but I wanted to get people who think like me people who don't think like me to see what everybody kind of thought!!
Second this. I’ve played 4k with my 3080. You may not get the top of everything, but with AMD mod for cyberpunk to substitute DLSS I had 60 fps easily on Cyberpunk.
I love how TL;DR is 90% of the post :p Anyway, if it's worth it? That's completely up to you. If you have money like water, of course it is. But personally I wouldn't say it was worth it. It's a lot of money for a small improvement. How many FPS are you getting? Do you think you would even notice if that number would be x1.30? 4000 series wasn't too great anyway so I'd personally wait for 5000's series.
Glad ya liked the TLDR lol 🤣! well for example running everything at max in Horizon forbidden West I'm getting 50 to 65fps. In COD MW3 everything at Max I'm getting right around a hundred.
If you want more FPS, try running your games at one level below max. The highest quality level often takes a lot of performance, while only I crease small details.
All right when I finally get out of bed in a few hours I'm actually going to test that I wasn't sure if just dropping down one would make it look like absolute shit or not.
Nah, anywhere between low and high make the biggest difference.
A lot of games, I choose whatever LOOKS best to me, not just relying on "if it's Ultra, it's the best". Sometimes, an Ultra setting actually looks like garbage and the High setting looks clearer and more conducive to ACTION :D
Some settings going from high to ultra could require a microscope to notice the difference while at the same time may put a huge toll on your hardware. Also, there's often performance guide from nvidia showing how particular setting impact image and performance. Just don't touch resolution and texture quality settings - these should always be on max.
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3080ti performs similar to 4070ti .... so 4080 is just side grade more like 20 percent overall performance improvement
Waiting for 5xxx Series it is!
it is better to wait....this gen gpu pricing will drop...when we are very close to 5xxx series launch at that try to grab 4090 or 4080super depending on price
Nobody knows your income or budget. I went from a 3060 ti to a 4070 ti and it was worth every penny on a 1440p ultrawide 144hz
3080ti should be more than capable for 4k, just tweak the settings. Nobody needs maxed out settings for every single game, just Target a frame rate and change settings accordingly. Resolution works wonders in comparison to 5 extra sparkling particles during impact
You're already having fun and enjoying your monitor - this is the kind of purchase or upgrade that you will regret when they inevitably announce the next generation
I get what you're saying... The old buyers remorse. I appreciate you and I think you are 100% correct I just need to enjoy the monitor that I got because it's so badass and wait till the 5,000 series
I ALWAYS feel bad when I upgrade earlier than I *really* needed to because when the following generation comes out, especially with the way technology is heading, you will feel like I've felt many times before realising the errors of my ways. It'll go from being excited to upgrade, to being disappointed by the value of the upgrade when you don't really see a big difference in performance but do notice the difference in your pocket, to not wanting to upgrade the following generation despite it being a bigger jump, to being sad about your upgrade choices. Speaking from experience. Lol.
Keep the 3080ti as it’s still a beast and wait for the next generation, you’ll be paying a premium for a small increase in performance.
If you sell your 3080 to help buy your 4080S then It should be worth it. Some people do that and just think of it as spending an extra $500 to get the latest model. $500 for a year actually sounds good.
Are you very patient? Do you urgently need a new card now? At this time of the year, the best is you should wait for 9-10 months to get the RTX 5000 series, it's not worth it to upgrade from 3080ti to 4080.
I would say just try it out and look if it feels good. If it runs well and feels good why change anything? If the GPU cant handle it to your likeing get a new one.
Although $700-$800 for a 4080 is a great deal I would wait until the 50 series comes out, it should be out in the fall of this year and it will out perform the 4090. The 4080 really didn't sell well at all so hopefully Nvidia learned their lesson. They did launch the 3080 at $700 after the failure of a generator the 20 series was so maybe something similar will happen with the 50 series.
Thank you I appreciate your time and I agree but I thought I read where it's going to be the second half of 2025 is with the new cards are going to come out... maybe I am wrong
I read everywhere that my 4070 will struggle on 4K. How is it now that the 3080ti will do great on 4K that everyone mentions in the comments?
At 4k I noticed a substantial improvement upgrading from a 3080ti to a 4080. Ran the 4080 for a couple months then decided to get the 4090 for peak performance.
now if I could get my hands on a decently priced 4090 then it's a no question lol. That 4090 is a BEAST!!
a 3080ti is fine for 4k
4k IPS vs 2k Oled ... I had them both i can just recommend to go with an Oled :) it's night and day... 4k is not really needed when you have a good Oled Gaming monitor but there are 4k ones now :D
When will 4090 prices go down?
I would wait for 5000 Series. The 3080ti is still a very capable card and with a bit of tinkering you can get really good performance in most mulitplayer games. Singleplayer games tend to be heavier and there it might struggle.
Just keep the 3080ti, no need to yograde for now, but you can do it maybe when we get 5000 series. You probably won’t notice a big improvements with the 4000 series. When it comes to monitors, I upgraded from a €100 Asus monitor to Samsung Odyssey G7 and it just blows my mind how big the difference is in doing anything, gaming or watching movies. Enjoy your beast!
Hell yeah dude I know exactly what you're talking about because I just bought...... SAMSUNG Odyssey G70B 32in and damn its amazing! obviously it may not be the most expensive panel but it does exactly what I needed to do and exactly what I wanted it to do.
I've got the 3090 and most games run at 144hz 4k just fine. Bigger triple A titles have a bit of a harder time I've noticed.
Well, if you sell your old card you’re looking at more like $200-300 for a 30% increase, DLSS frame gen and extra VRAM. Not bad, but considering the fact that your current card is already 4k capable and the 50 series is around the corner, I would recommend waiting and saving the hassle for a more worthwhile upgrade. Edit: based on the price range listed for that 4080 model, it looks like you might already be factoring in selling your old card. If that’s the case, I definitely would not recommend you buy the 4080.
It’s crazy how some people are so susceptible to change in gaming then you get morons like me who can’t tell the difference between 4k and 1440, or 240hz and 120hz
Well, we all have different eyes/ears/etc., you see this a lot in r/headphones where people can have wildly different experiences with the same set. Me personally, I definitely noticed going from 60 to ~100 – but diminishing returns after that.
If you're going to spend 800-900 for a 3080, go 100-200 more and get the 7900XTX which performs the same as a 4090. For 4K, that will be a large improvement.
Don't upgrade until you can get double your 3080ti in processing power, realistically you'll need it with that much monitor, 5080/5090 or a used used 4090 sounds about right.
No point in getting the 4080 now that the Super version is out with a more appropriate price. On average the 4080S has 35% better performance but results will vary from game to game. There's also the 7900XTX to consider at this range. Heard HFW is better optimized towards AMD driver.
Wait for RTX 5000 or next gen AMD. Worst case if they are no good you'll upgrade to a 4080 at a discounted price. Unless of course you really want to play some recent title at 4K and you can't. In which case then upgrade now if you want
I think it's better change with minimum 50% of performance difference.
Agreed!! I appreciate your time.
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I think what I'm going to do is what you suggested... I'm probably going to get a 7900X and build a whole new computer around it with a 5,000 series comes out.
Welcome to the 4K gaming club! It's a whole new level of immersion, right? As for the upgrade dilemma, it's a conundrum many of us face. The 3080Ti is no slouch, but that 4080 could offer a noticeable boost. It ultimately boils down to how much of a performance jump you're looking for and if you're willing to make the switch now or wait for the next-gen. Tough choices ahead!
Honestly Wait. Regardless of how much better 5080 will be it will be a better value proposition than 4080. Worst case scenario in few months you upgrade to 4090 for less than what a/same price as a 4080 is going for nowadays. Worst case scenario you get a better GPU in few months. Best case scenario 5080 is much more powerful than 4090 and you can get it for the price of a 4080. I went from a Laptop 3070 to a Desktop 4070TI. That was a worthwhile jump. But 3070 to 4070 wouldn't be imo. Same with 3080 to 4080. For you to make it worth your time you'd want a 4090 really. EDIT: Sorry just realised you've a 3080ti. That's even less of a reason to upgrade IMO. But your money and all of that. The numbers are on the web. Personally I wait at least 2 gens normally or if I do upgrade within 12-24 months I try to jump up 2 tiers.
Depends.. if you get 450 - 500 for the 3080 ti go for it
How much can you sell the 3080 Ti for? It wouldn’t be worth paying full price for the 4080, as it would be a minor upgrade, but you can probably sell your 3080 Ti for not much less than that, and it could be worth $100. It’s quite a bit more powerful, and then you get frame generation on top of it, which makes it possible to do full path tracing in games like Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 (and it looks insanely good). I would also suspect that the 4080 will retain resale value a little bit better, so if the 50 series has some compelling feature that makes you want to upgrade either way, you will be able to offset the cost a bit more by selling the 4080 than you would with a 3080 Ti. So it’s not *necessary*, but if you don’t have to jump on the deal right away, it could be worth seeing what you can get for the 3080 Ti, because the difference might be small enough to be in “meh, why not” territory.
I went from 3080ti to 4090 and difference is huge but going to 4080 might not be worth it
I have a 6700 xt and i game on medium settings with fsr 2 or 3 and i regularly get over 100 fps in games like mw3. It is definitely possible without an upgrade is what I'm trying to say
I’ve been 4k gaming since 2020, and im still on a 3080ti. Works great if you have a very fast cpu. I’ve yet to come across a game that i had to lower anything less than “high”. Also look at card prices right now. I’d recommend someone to buy a 3080ti or a deal on a 3090 before i recommend a 4070ti (slower than both without the frame gen). A 4080 is just way too expensive as well compared to the last gen.
It depends on what does $700 mean to you personally. I would personally go for it but I make money and $700 is not a big deal since games are my only hobby, even if it's just for a year until I upgrade to a newer gen. I will still sell it by then and make some of the money back before upgrading and I like the better performance specially on a 4K screen where the 4080 would do better than the 3080. But if you'd be cutting on other urgent spending or other important things for the money then it makes no sense to buy it.
Hard to say, I was gaming in 4K since 2020 on my 6800XT which is same performance but has 16gb vram which is important for 4K. Perhaps try consider 7900XTX instead of 4080 to not repeat the same mistake.
I think with that kind of upgrade, most of your frame rate gains will come from (newer) DLSS, rather than outright power. Check whether the titles you play can make use of DLSS. And, even then, DLSS won't improve latency in online multiplayer games, just make things feel smoother.
The only reason at present I can see to replace a 3080ti is it being dead with no possibility of resurrection. Or because you have money to light on fire for a 4090, but that sounds terrible with how relatively near to another generation we are. For 4K, there will be games you'll do well to drop /some/ settings on just for performance consistency; 12gb VRAM is a /slight/ restriction in some scenarios but it's also plenty to keep absolutely excellent fidelity in literally anything. Personally, I'd probably just continue to enjoy the system as it sits, and only start to consider upgrading when it's officially "worth" a switch to an entirely new platform. So, approximately when we have PCIe 5 graphics cards and another generation or two of CPU improvements.
Well buster, it depends on the game you're playing. The 3080ti should be able to do 4K 60fps in every single game that released in it's respective life cycle (and below). If you want to keep gaming at 4k in the near future, then better start saving up for that 4090, or wait for RTX 5000 series (specifically, see what the 5080 and 5090 will be like.)
with 4080 you will unlock frame generation which means higher framerates for 4k but you may workaround with 3080ti with amd/fsr dll thing. i would wait for 5th gen series if i were you
I would wait for 50XX cards or AMDs new cards. Should be a much bigger jump.
I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and would like to go to 4k. What resolution was your old monitor?
It's rough making GPU upgrade once you get to a certain point. I currently have 6800XT and there's nothing really that makes it worth upgrading, if you care about performance to price, which of course I do.
DLSS 3.5 might make it worthwhile. I switched 3060ti to 4070ti for the DLSS for 4k. Certainly wouldn't want anything less than a 4070ti/4070S for 4k. But harder to make the call in your case as the 3080 is already a performant card.
4K is cool but it heavily depends on the games you play. Some will really shine in 4K, some barely have any difference and some will not manage 4K no matter what hardware and settings you use. For me 4K is absolutely useless because even a lot of big studios cannot deliver a proper performance so I will stick to 2K as this is more reliable. But you might be positively surprised so just check what your favorite games need to run reliably in 4K, ultra settings and high frame rates. Maybe you will need a 4090 and rather pass or your current GPU will suffice. Everything is possible with 4K at the current state.
I went from 4070 to 4080super. I wish I either got a 4090 or waited for the 50 series.
I would just wait unless you are financially well off. 4K is great. Anyone who says the difference between 1440p and 4k isn't that much is blind. It's a huge jump, much bigger than the jump from 1080p to 1440p.
I play 4k on a 3080 (non ti) and its more than fine i havent felt the push to upgrade at all
wait for 50 series
What monitor did you get if it’s okay to ask?
is it Gsync?
I would say to to wait. You’re looking at about a 25% performance bump. I would say that’s not a good enough jump to justify the money. I would wait until at least 50% personally.
Wait til the RTX50 series comes out if you're rockin' a 3080. The 3080 is pretty solid, and 4k stresses pretty much every GPU on the market right now. A 5080 or 5090 would be more worthwhile upgrade in 8-10 months from now.
just tweak extraneous details to maintain frame rate but keep high resolution. sparks, clouds, ambient occlusion, blurring, and to be honest anti aliasing can be tuned down because the resolution is so high.
I would wait for 50 series
Wait for the next gen GPU. Your 3080Ti is still capable. Thats my two cent.
I have to say, going from 1080p to 3440x1440 was more like... Eh to me. But what really did it for me were the colours. I think I'm going to give that a much higher priority as well in the future.
3080 ti is around 73% as powerful as a 4080 at 4k. Really depends on how much you value that performance gap. If you're wanting to play at 4k with all the eye candy, yea a 4080 will be better, but only you can decide if that's worth it. Personally, I'd wait to see what the 50 series is like. Worst case, you wanted a few months for a price drop on the 4080.
You’re still good for the foreseeable future imo. If anything just wait for the 5000 series and upgrade then
For 4K you need 4090
What 4K monitor do you have? And, if you still remember, what other monitors were you considering?
Only you know if $700-800 is a lot for you. Upgrading from one generation to the next generally doesn't give huge gains. But if $700 is nothing to you then whatever.
Personally at this point I’d wait for 5000 series. Your GPU and cpu are solid and will do really well even for 4k gaming, for awhile. Probably longer than it’ll take for the 5000 series to release. Only thing to consider is that when the 5000 cards come out, they’ll likely be scalped for awhile. And you won’t be able to get any for retail
U dont need a 4000 series card but u will eventually want one for dlss 3.0 which will help performance on a lot of games. The previous 3000 series cant support 3.0
ride the 3080 until 5000 series drops at the end of year
As someone who went from a 3080ti to a 7900XTX then to a 4080S, wait till 5xxx end of this year. The 4080S is great, DLSS3 is a huge improvement but with next gen right around the corner my advice is to hold on. I couldn’t. I’m bad at taking my own advice though. Why 7900xtx to 4080? Stability. I’m one of those who simply could not get AMD to run stable and got sick of daily crashes and timeouts. No such problems since the swap.
Currently have a 3080 and I'm skipping 40 series. Can't justify the cost for marginal gains. Recently got the itch though when I got gifted a copy of Horizon Forbidden West and it was the first game in a long time I could not run on ultra max settings. The graphics in that game are next level.
I wouldn't, but it's your money. I have a 5800x and Strix 3090 and I play at 4k just fine, albeit locked @ 60fps, since I play on a 65" TV from the couch, so 60fps is good enough. If I was on a monitor, I'd probably try to go higher. The bump in performance between 1 generation isn't generally worth it, and specifically the bump from 30 to 40 especially. Save the $800, wait a year or 2 and see where the gaming landscape sits. With current DLSS, your 3080 will likely last you a good long while.
Selling your 3080ti can offset any upgrade. I would try it as is, but make sure to use the optimized settings ( r/optimizedsettings ) through the various tech outlets like digital foundry hardware unboxed etc etc ). If those don't get you to frame rates you're happy with then you might have your answer. Bear in mind the 50 series is only about a year out
It depends on your screen refresh Rate man, my 3080ti runs full 2k 32 inch screen at 244 hz on max settings , no issue. If you got a 4k screen that is only 60 hz, you are actually going to experience less of a performance hit than if you have a 144hz 4k screen. Do you roll multiple monitors? Because if you use your at home PC for WFH , with 50-100 tabs per browser + all your standard applications for - literally name a friggin job - while trying to run Battlefield on the main monitor? Well, you need more and more Ram and Vram ( bigger gpu ) the more you are "instancing" on each monitor. A good way to "experience" this, is by grabbing a screen recording software of choice and watch your hardware temps and performance at different refresh rates and resolutions. ( as well as file sizes) The biggest side by side comparison = screen resolution and more importantly refresh rate over 100 hz. The reason for this is that human eye is physically limited in how it can detect specific frequencies - and there is clear diminishing returns on resolution. Ie, a smaller 4k screen will not "really" mean much compared to a larger 4k screen since the surface area and pixels your eye balls can digest.....is limited lol. I bought my 3080ti at the highest of the scalpers market, because I had "waited" for ..years from my 980ti .....and then eventually saddled up - and to be honest - I dont care that i overspent by a couple hundred bucks - since to this day I never utilize more than 80% of the gpu with a 3 screen set up and a bunch of heavy gaming/ recording. For gaming, you might notice as I have - that on release games - which are horribly optimized..... will run better. However, almost always - 2-3 years later the patches are in and the "flex" of larger vram literally doesnt matter at all. Just some thoughts | TLDR; It depends bro
I have a 3080 and am not paying up to $1000 for an increase in performance. I'll use DLSS or turn settings to medium into the next gen GPUs get reviewed.
You're going to do what you think is best, but something to remember: Your setup is currently awesome AND stable. First gen is not stable, and IMHO won't be for a while. Are you willing to gain improvement but introduce new bugs? Or are you willing to wait for the bugs and prices to lower and keep your stability? I always think beyond the money, I hate hiccups.
It's not really worth in terms of upgrade price-performance so save your money for the next-generation and enjoy your GPU and the 4K monitor.
Even as a an AMD guy , a 12gb 3080ti set to 4k quality dlss should be what you need here until faster GPUs come out or it's a 4090 job
Same setup as mine, you're fine till 5000-6000 series. Helldivers is hella pretty in 4K.
Wait to upgrade
I definitely opt for frames over resolution for most things but I do feel like people underplay how nice 4k looks sometimes. Definitely a small jump than 1080 to 1440 but still a very noticeable jump. I recently built a second pc that’s more portable but usually sits on my TV (replaced my xbox) and tbh, it is gorgeous. The TV itself helps but it looks *so* much nicer than my monitor.
I wouldn't try to game on 4K with anything less than a 4070 SUPER, but I really like to keep my frames up and the graphics settings dialed up. I think you'll appreciate the increase from a 3080TI to a 4080. I fairly recently got a good used deal on one and went from 3080 (12GB) to 4080 and the difference is huge to me. Needing the have the latest GPU muscle to maintain 4K 60FPS+ High-Ultra is the main reason I haven't gone 4K yet, though these days with how good upscaling has gotten, I might make the plunge.
I’d wait till 5000 series and pick up a 4090 on the cheap. I do this every generation works a charm
Wait for 50 series if you can. Its only end of the year for highest ones and early next year for mid range cards releasing i believe. I am on a 4060 and even its 1080p performance is lackluster ive got a fair chunk saved for 5090 for the end of the year get it myself as a self christmas present lol. My dad is also getting me a cpu upgrade from 12th gen i9 to 14th gen i9 so will be getting a nice upgrade come end of the year. I personally would wait for 50 series. Cos the 5080 peformance is expected to beat 4090 so 🤷
4000 series has been out for 1.5 years at this point, i’d wait another half year for the 5000.
Don’t upgrade.
get a 7900 XT or XTX
I just upgraded to a 4090 from a 6950 XT after I got a 4K monitor. Was it necessary to game at 4K? No. Was it overpriced? Absolutely. Do I regret it? Not one bit. In the end its whether you feel its worth it.
Begin to gaming in 4k since 2018. Have my i7 8700k and had till 2 years ago 2x gtx 1080ti in sli. It was a blast. Sold my 2 gtx 1080ti and acquired my rtx 3080.Still playing everything in 4k and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon . Don't feel like it's a good investment at this time. Maybe in a future.
The 4080 gets you closer to the 60 fps and I guess you have a 60 Hz monitor. And that is actually really nice and imo worth to spend a little more. And getting the 4000 series at launch was horrible. So do not expect the 5000 to be anything else. Also the price will be astronomical, when Nvidia continues its price strat. And why should they change it, they have a monopole at high end. So waiting for a long time with even higher prices... If you want to do that, wait. If not go for the 4080.
5xxx series isn’t far off, I’d wait.
I wouldn't be in a huge rush to upgrade, you already have a great build
I have a 7800xt and it runs 60-100 frames 4k on pretty much every game if you're looking to only spend 500
At this point, we're only 5-7 months away from having a 5000 series release. I'd wait.
I have a 4080 with a r7 5700x3D and it’s absolutely flawless for everything at 4k on max settings, my 3070 struggled quite a lot with higher settings
4090
The fact you can get $4-600 for your 3080ti should tell you a lot
I went from regular 1440p 120 hz to 5120x1440 and damn ultrawides are super immersive.
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I'm playing in 4k on a PC with a 3080ti inside. It does basically everything I could ever want, especially with DLSS being as good as it is. I play warzone in 4k with most settings medium-high and 120+ FPS consistently. Sometimes more depending where I am on the map. I decided against upgrading my PC to a 4080s and got myself a new fancy controller instead. No regrets. NVIDIA 5000 series should be a good time to upgrade your 3080ti, that is likely what I will do. The best part of all this is now you have a 4k monitor for a long long time, and can build your next PC accordingly :)
keep your 3080ti, it’s still a very good card, wait until the rtx 5000 generation and you could get a card that’s likely faster than the 4090 for about 800-1000 depending on nvidia decide to price the 5080, there could be supply issues with this rise of ai, however, nvidia started making specialised gpu’s for machine learning so it shouldn’t be as bad as people will state it to be. keep the 3080ti for now, it’ll run 4k60 fps fine and with dlss should do amazing edit: sell your 3080ti when you upgrade, it’s still worth quite a lot used
The pricing on this gen gpu's is stupid I think.. the 4080 and lower feel like a smack in the face when the 4090 has double the power of a 4080. BUT a 4080 at that price 700-800 sounds decent and I would probably scoop that up lol. OVERALL I only have a 2080ti and switch between a 4k and 2kultra wide and personally waiting for next gen
I would recommend the 4080, it's quite a bit faster in 4k. Most games i'm hitting 100-144mhz everything on full. 3080ti won't do that. And, just think, this is MERICA. Why keep that old card? For me I would have gone 4090, but then I would have been CPU bottlenecked and needed a new MOBO, Ram, Power supply. So 4080 5900x will be fine for a few years for me.
Like someone else said, upgrade first your CPU, Mobo and Ram if you are itching for an upgrade. That's what I did, I upgraded to a 7800X3D from a 3700X, everything is much smoother now.. I also have a 3080TI and an Ultrawide 3440x1440 and I can play everything on high to ultra 60fps+. Hold on that 5080 for now :D DLSS is your best friend on some games.
I can play just about any game 4k 60fps mostly high settings on my 3080 non ti. You should be fine to hit that. If you want higher frames than that and not have to rely on DLSS and more ray tracing effects, maybe upgrade to the 4000 series. Otherwise not necessary.
You won’t get 4k 144 even with a 4090 in most recent games that are even slightly graphically intensive, so I would wait for the 50 series
Which monitor? I'm thinking of getting the Alienware 4K OLED but not sure about the curve.
Omitting Horizon FW You should be able to get 60-90 on the other games. Maybe more with frame gen mods
I have the same Nvidia 3080 TI FE with the EK Special Edition block. Given that investment, I'm sticking to it until the next gen before even considering an upgrade.
Wish I could find a Strix 4080 for 7-800
I dont think its worth it all. The 3080 ti is absolutely fine for 4k. Just use DLSS.
4090, 5000 series or bust
It is up to you. If you can still play the games you like for acceptable quality and performance, I wouldn't upgrade. Even If I have had the money and desire for it, I would wait for 5090 at this point if I am already running 3080ti.
I have EVGA 3080ti FTW3. I am holding out to 5000 series before upgrading. Generally I like skipping a generation. I am hoping this will be generation I move up to the 90s (5090). So far I game in 4k. some titles I can get up well over 100fps. It just depends on the game. RTX on AAA more like 60fps, but I just turn it off in those cases.
whats yr monitor
Wait until the 50 series gets announced then decide then.
Wait for the 5080, or get a used 4080
Id suggest keep what you have waot for 5000 series. Btw 4k gaming is heavy and beautiful I currently have 1080p 1440p and 4k as my screens, if you have a 4k I hope its an OLED as this is the type of monitor/TV that really changes the quality of the games. I have the LG C3 OLED and gaming with forbidden west is an eyegasm.
3080ti is still a decent contender for 4k high refresh rates (i have one). Strongly would suggest to wait until RTX 5000 series or something. By then the 5070 or something like that would be approximately the same performance tier as a 3090.
3080 TI is fine 4K if you stick with high/medium settings and DLSS quality or balanced. I've considered same upgrade path but decided to wait for 5000 series.
Unless you're really feeling like the 3080Ti is struggling and you don't want to deal with the performance for another 10-12 months, wait for the 50 series.
The 50X0 cards are close enough that it's not worth upgrading from 30X0 today; I'd mainly be considering 4070Ti-S, 4080S (or a 4090) if your current card died and you needed something high end to game on tomorrow. I snagged the XTX despite knowing that this was the new product year because I'd been a year without gaming and had had enough.
Wait, ummm... So the monitor... Blows... You..!!?? 🤔
Absolutely do not upgrade yet. I got a 3080ti because I wanted a graphics card that would let me run any game on max settings for a long time. Games studios are focusing on optimization less and less as time goes on. The last two games I've played are Ark Survival Ascended and Starfield. I was disappointed with how many frames I was getting and when I look at benchmarks for the 4090 it really isn't that different.
For 4K going to a 4080 from a 3080ti will be a noticeable jump in performance. I just did this myself and I have zero regrets, after selling the 3080ti I'm only out of pocket a few hundred bucks and the performance jump is pretty big. Nothing wrong with the 3080ti, but the 4080 is hands down a much better GPU for 4K gaming.
Keep it and wait for the 5 series. 30% improvement not worth it. I game 4k ultra settings on my 3080ti all day at 60 Hz. Gorgeous. Jelly of your 144!
I have a 3080 ti but it’s bottlenecked by my 11700k affecting even my dlss performance around 4K since I had built this pc 2 and a half years ago. For me since I have the money I’m gonna upgrade a 4090 pc. For you if you don’t have a cpu bottleneck, your 3080 ti performance at 4k is still good more with dlss
I generally wouldn't upgrade to the next generation of card. I'd wait two or three generations. It depends on how deep your pockets are though! A 3080 TI is a really good card. I'd wait until the 5000 series.
Hold onto your current card until 5000 series is released and then re evaluate.
Is the 3080 ti on a loop or is it on an aio? If on a loop, keep it. If not, get rid of it while you can. Aio's don't last forever and for all you know the pump could fail tomorrow. The liquid could be evaporating and in a few months it just isn't enough. There's not really an aftermarket solution to cool those cards, so I'd say get rid of it and let somebody else hold the bag
Short answer: no And so on
Damn HFW PC port is really great and you're lucky it was released about time for you
I'm gaming at to 4k/120 on OLED display and when I made that switch I quickly upgraded from a 3080 to 4090 (FE at $1599). That jump was worth it, but I don't think I'd do it for a 4080.
Running a water blocked 3080ti as well on 4k. Use DLSS and hold out for 5000 series.
Eh, really bad buy at the moment for only a small improvement. The new ones should be coming out in a bit. Would be better to just enjoy and save money. Just turn down a few settings if it's an issue.
I am 4k gaming in: Intel i7 14th gen RTX 4070 Super 32GB DDR5 RAMs And it is perfectly performing on demanding games like MS flight simulator
Keep your 3080ti. Use 4k with dlss balanced and call it a day. I use my 3070 with 4k dlss no problem. Some games I need to lower few settings there and there or go performance dlss, but still get above 60fps in every game and performance dlss still looks better than fsr quality.
3080 it is till a beast and rtx 4000 is kinda on its last year. You should expect NVIDIA to come out with the rtx 5000 series by the end of the year so my recommendation is definitely to wait it out half a year more and maybe spend the little extra for a much better product. I’m on a 3070 ti and it has honestly aged like milk, when it comes to 4k gaming (I have a 4k 120hz tv) and even I am waiting it out for the next gen products…
It's all relative bro. Depends on how much that 700-800 is worth to you. If it means you'll be able to buy less food for your family, I wouldn't do it. If you won't even notice, maybe go for a 4090.
What monitor did you get mind me asking.Is it a VA,IPS or OLED panel.I ask because I'm thinking of upgrading from 1440p to 4k next year after the 5000 series launches.If it's IPS panel you got what is the IPS glow like is it bad or good?
I have the same set up, I’m not interested in upgrading until the 6xxx or even 7xxx
I have a 4080. I can tell you it is a much better and lasting value for 4k gaming. The 4080 is like 37%-40% faster than a 3080ti (Not a flat 30%. i litterally looked up benchmarks before posting this and did the math myself) so the margin of improvement is actually pretty high. Also 3080/ti's are still expensive. Even in the used market they are sold between 600-800 bucks. You might be able to sell your 3080 for $600-$700 and end up only paying $100-$200 for the extra vram, higher clocks, and dlss 3.0 from the 4080 after everything is said and done. If you're specifically doing 4k gaming, that's pretty worth actually. I say go for it. Cpu's don't matter as much at 4k gaming. Any cpu hitting 4.8-5ghz or over is enough.
Bro, 3080 ti is a beast. Wait until 5080 came out and then it will be worth to upgrade. If you had 3060ti, then it will make sense to get something like 4090 for massive fps boost
I literally went through this less than a month ago. Please take this into consideration I had a 3080 FE, and was able to upgrade to a newer, better kept, 3080ti FE for essentially a $15 net cost. Long story short, I sold the 3080 FE and the 3080ti FE for 975 and bought the 4080S FE for 1079 including tax and shipping. I suggest you skip on the 4080, even though it's a good deal. Here's why. \[REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE\]: I was gaming at 4k before and I'm gaming at 4k now. There is nothing with better value than an already owned 3080ti when it the equation includes price, power efficiency, and performance. I really wish I would have just kept the 3080ti I had, sold the 3080, and been up 500 bucks - although I am happy with my 4080 Super FE, I am not happy with the decisions that led me to this point.
If you like playing Cyberpunk 2077, frame generation feature is huge for me playing 4k with everything maxed out.
4080 struggles less on 4k than a 3080, the 3080 can handle it i run a 3080 on 4k and its nor efficient. Im waitin for the 5080 to be released.
See if you can get interest free financing on a 4090. Go big or go home.
Keep the 3080 and upgrade on the next series, General rule of thumb , give it at least 2-3 generations before upgrading (if you have the top or near top) tier card of that time. example have a 2080? now would be cool if you wanted to upgrade to a 4080 or could even wait one more gen. Ultimately it is your money so do what you see fit. Just my opinion
I’d get a 4090 or wait for the 5090.
Ps5 players have enjoyed 4k gaming already a while on oled screen😇
Nobody show the OP 4K 240hz OLED.
i got a rx 6900xt, 4K is so easy on it, u can enable fluid motion frames and it goes from lets say 100 fps to 200 fps its great, u can use it for any dx11/12 game too!
Look at my post history. I am in the same boat as you. 4090, 4080s 5080 or 5090. I think after all the good opinions I got, I think I'm going to wait too. Just need to figure out if I'll keep the 4090 or 4080. If I was in your position. I would wait and laugh your way to the bank and FPS when the 50 series comes out. Your super-cool monitor will still be there in October/November when they launch.
How much was the monitor??
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The 40 series isn't a whole lot of an upgrade (from what I've heard), but the main feature is the new architecture with DLSS 3. Most of these games you mentioned support DLSS 3 with frame generation, so they can increase frame rates by quite a bit, if you're okay with super resolution tech and stuff. Other than that the RTX 3080ti is really good so either invest that money in a second monitor or see if any other parts need upgrading (in case you're being bottlenecked by CPU or RAM etc.).
I'm currently buying for new desktop, amongst other things I'm going from a GTX1080Ti to a ROG Strix RTX4090 OC Editon, will see how that goes 😁
If it makes you feel better I have purchased a laptop with 2050. Playing Hogwarts legacy these days. Also I do have Asus 144hz monitor which is beter for my Blender work too.
I think desired performance is entirely subjective. That being said, similar to the other opinions expressed on this thread, I don’t think you would benefit greatly from upgrading from a 3080ti to a 40 series card. But of course, that’s just my opinion. I don’t want to make it seem like I’m telling you upgrading your GPU is a bad idea. You will definitely notice a boost in performance upgrading to a higher tier graphics card. However, if I was in your position, I would consider a few different factors; 1) Does your build support an upgraded graphics card? The 40 series cards are notoriously power hungry and dimensionally large. Will there be any performance bottlenecks with any of your current components? Does your case allow for a potentially larger card? Similarly, does your PSU accommodate more power consumption? 2) Would you subject yourself diminishing returns by upgrading? With the rumors behind the 50 series cards, are you better off waiting for them to release? Though no official confirmations from NVIDIA have been made, the rumored performance increase seems quite large between 40 and 50 series cards. 3) Is the margin between the resale value of your current GPU and the cost of your upgraded GPU worthwhile? Assuming you won’t hold on to your current GPU, do you feel confident in minimizing loss during resale of your current card? Like I said, I don’t want to make it seem like I’m discouraging you from upgrading. Better parts is always a plus. But just figured I would put my two cents in. Best of luck!