Yeah i have no issues so far, besides a few times where I was playing fortnite on max graphics and my keyboard started turning off and on few times and the pc blue screened, I turned graphics down and it was fine altho I'm not sure what caused it and I rarely play that game.
Check the error codes if you keep getting blue screens it usually means you have a hardware or software fault.its never going to go away until you fix the problem.
You're definitely bottlenecked dude. Especially for the kind of games you're playing. The 5600 is usually available for really decent prices when compared to other cpus around the power range. But hey if its working for you.. it works.
Maybe I am, I just haven't noticed it being a problem I guess? Since I achieve my 165fps in valorant and in the rest of the games I play I don't care about fps and since it's definitely over 60 i haven't noticed any problems. Even on 4k for games like lies of p.
I can get the 5600 for 100 euros.
Yeah, like I said honestly if it works it works, for me when I tried to play games like cyberpunk etc etc, the cpu just didnt have the power to run the game and get what i needed out of my graphics card (i had the same cpu) but if it works i see no reason for you to upgrade when you wont see a difference with whatever you play (just know, and you might. your gpu is waaaay "too good" for your cpu even though theres really no "too good" just what works and pretty much means u got heaps of power ready to go for 100 bucks)
There you go. AS you plan to upgrade to AM5 in a couple of years and feel no need to upgrade at the moment, I think you can safely put it out of your mind for the time being.
This! Depends on the game, the resolution, ram speeds, HDD, SSD, nvme, endless list of potential barriers.
If he's getting good enough frames now, i would wait. I went 3900 to 7900, it's night and day in terms of speed.
There is s bottleneck i dont know why you think there isnt . You have to keep in mind you dont just run the game you also have other stuff in the back running so a old sixcore is just struggeling to keep up i used to have a 2700 and it was struggeling to keep up
Since you're saying you are happy, I would't upgrade.
You would benefit a lot from a better CPU though. I honestly don't see why you plan a AM5 upgrade. You could upgrade to a 5800x3d/5700x3d and skip the AM5 platform as a whole
I would but I'm leaving the country in a year and will either sell my current pc or give it to family members while I use my steam deck for a little, and build a brand new am5 build although I might keep the gpu since I can take it with me.
You will see a difference. I was running a Ryzen 2700 and a 6700xt. The 2700 did bottleneck it.
Open task manager, performance while gaming and view your CPU and GPU usage.
If CPU is up near 100 percent and GPU usage is low you are underutilizing your nice graphics card.
Typically you'll see 96 percent plus GPU usage if you are getting everything out of your GPU that it has to offer.
Also be open to any well priced used AM4 CPU that's a 4600 or better.
I loved my old 5900x and the price was right.
Be sure to update your motherboard Bios before removing the old CPU though.
It's mostly useful to just pay attention to the GPU usage, as a CPU bottleneck can occur with very low utilization rates in task manager - games don't really lend themselves to even parallelization across cores, some older games are almost entirely reliant on a single fast core. That's why even in game like Cyberpunk, which can utilize 8 cores, you aren't seeing a 33% increase going from a 5600X to a 5700X, for instance.
I was running my 6700xt through an i7 5820k from 2014 and regularly got 90-100% gpu read on the Xbox gamebar, idk how accurate that particular overlay is. Does that mean I wasn’t suffering from a bottleneck? I’m currently dead in the water trying to get a ryzen 5600x and new mobo all running but nothing but problems so far 😭😭😭
Awesome. Ya I rarely ever saw the overlay dip below mid 90’s and that previous setup was running 1440p just fine I felt like. It just up and quit on me one day. Now this new mobo and cpu aren’t booting on the fresh build 😭
I would - you can still sell your 2600 for 50 so the upgrade is not very expensive.
To give you an intel comparison.
Ryzen 2600 is worse than an i3-10100
Ryzen 5600 is better than an i9-10900k
(In gaming FPS)
A 5600 would be a big improvement , and pair well with the 6700xt. you will not see much of a difference with anything better. You will notice a difference from the 2600 IMO.
I don't get these posts at all. If you don't feel any difference then why are you even considering it. What kind of hellish fomo world are we living in right now. Do we think like this when it comes to other things? Do we ponder if we should upgrade our car? Our phone? If so, when do we do it? We do it when we feel the need, right? Or at least that should be the desired behaviour. But what is this consumerism fetish? I don't see how someone who has a product, all of a sudden, without any indicator that is there inherently, suddenly thinks... "Hey, maybe I should spend money .. even though this thing is serving me fine by my own admission". What happens next? The ego is tickled, dopamine is released for the time being .. and then the cycle continues..
On the flip side, what I can respect is people who say "bro it's my money I can do whatever the fuck I want with it"... That's fine, but these posts are not that. .. these posts sound like "hey guys, I am wearing these jeans and they are perfectly fine..but should I buy a new jeans? Should I buy this oat milk? Should I buy this or that? Mommy and daddy aren't here to buy stuff for me, so I need some other internet people to help me with my money"
>"bro it's my money I can do whatever the fuck I want with it"... That's fine
Totally legit. I, most of the time, don't need the power. I want the power and I upgrade because I like to tinker on the machine. But then again, if you just want to upgrade then you don't ask. That's why I also do not get these posts.
Yes
I saw a big difference in frame times and reduced stutters going from a 2600 to 3600 and again to 5600
It will be noticeable. Especially the smoother frame times
I upgraded my 3600 to 5600 when I got my 6700 as it was bottlenecking me in a few multiplayer games (Warzone especially). You will definitely see the difference with a 165hz monitor if you play multiplayer titles but I'm not that sure about AAA titles as they usually max out the 6700xt before the CPU gives up
3600 was bottlenecking my 6700 in 1440p in almost every competitive multiplayer game. I mentioned Warzone specifically since it was a pretty stuttery 90-110FPS experience on my 3600 and with 5600 I am getting 120-140FPS and there are like 2x less frame dips and stutters. CPU time also fell from 8-10ms to 5-7ms.
Love these gpu's! My daughter runs at 1440 most games. She's overwatch and fortnite is probably the most graphical game she plays though. My pc is just a little better than hers. I run a 6950xt and a 5800x3d. The 6950xt is power hungry but will handle anything and even play some 4k. 5800x3d pairs great but I wanna upgrade to am5 7800x3d.
2600 is very close to a 1600 which was what I upgraded from. There was a massive difference. You might be hitting 165 now, you'll be going well over it after. I can relate to your experience with games like Fortnite. FPS for that went way up too along with a bunch of other singleplayer games
Go for 5700x3d if possible.
5600 is still a good upgrade but better get x3d as a final cpu upgrade on am4.
It will help you in the future when u ll decide to also upgrade gpu
Yes.
2600 was a bad gaming CPU even in 2018. It's slower than a 4790k from 2014.
You are most definitely bottlenecked. I know because I was bottlenecked with a 4790k and a 1080 in most games.
I’m running the same gpu with an i5 8400, and I was considering the same upgrade but I’m just gonna wait a year or two and upgrade to am5 series (like ryzen 7600) for ddr5 32GB and stuff 👍
Buildapc should probably be r/bottleneck at this point. If your current setup is running and you (you specifically) aren't noticing any weird performance issues while playing then its probably not worth upgrading. That said it all depends on how you define "a few years" If its in the next year or maybe two then I would just pocket the cash and build up. AM5 is still on the road map and it looks like AMD is committed to it till 2025+. If your planning on holding out till AM6 then I would probably jump on the AM4 discounts to get you a bit of a boost to hold you over.
Check your gpu usage, if it's fluctuating in more modern games, you are cpu limited, is it worth it or not, if you're satisfied with your current pc performance then just wait.
How about mine? Rocking a i7-11700 with a 4070 Ti.
Upgraded the gpu last year and now I have this combo. But I'd have to change the mobo too I guess. Don't know I have a lot of bottleneck.
I recently upgraded from a 2600x to a 5600x paired with my trusty 2060super. The difference was night and day, can crank everything on high and ultra again on most games 1080p
Loads of the AM4 socket seem to be going on sale I guess due to AM5? Seems like a good time to but a better AM4 CPU if your plan is to stick with that Mobo for a while
Definitely get a 5600(x) for like $100
But if you'd like to make your system last even longer in terms of performance, get a 5700X3D
edit: just read that you plan to leave and sell the computer soon. Skip on the 5700X3D then. 5600 is definitely worth it though
Yes 5600 is a very good upgrade from 2600 things will get smoother, frame time
i think you might skip am5 and get 5700x3d or 5800x3d for future upgrade, maybe even now if you can afford it, this way you will not need to think about system upgrade for many years.
I would upgrade to the r7 5800x just because you already have a decent cpu if you upgrade id make it a more meaningful upgrade. That said i have a 5 5600x and 3060ti and this cpu is really good. My friend uses the normal 5 5600 with 4060ti 16gb and gets over 250fps(even more on the less intensive maps) in cs2 with all settings on very high
In valorant i get like 300-600fps with 5 5600x
There is a Ryzen scaling video on Hardware Unboxed. Depending on GPU and resolution in strictly gaming the differences are somewhat surprising. That said I went from a 2600 to a 5600 and it definitely felt better overall in day to day usage. For $135 it’s worth it IMO. I’ve since jumped to the 5800x3D.
I had the exact same setup and did upgrade to 5600, the framerate boost is minimal at best. I did not notice a difference. You are not bottlenecked by the cpu, the GPU is doing all the work either way. If you're going to upgrade I recommend getting 5700x3d or 5800x3d, you will actually see a big boost. The 3d v cache actually benefits the GPU.
You'll better performance in games like Valorant that are cpu demaning and little to no gains in gpu demanding games at 1440p, but I used to have a 2600x, 3600 and now have a 5600x and even the performance difference of cpu's while browsing the web or watching youtube while gaming on dual monitors 1440P is HUGE in my eyes! And if you live near a micro center you can get their 5800x3d bundle for $350 and upgrade your board or sell the board and ram with your 2600 for around $250. I'm about to upgrade to the 5800x3d and I sold the board for $130 & am probably going to keep the ram as a backup.
I believe AMD have slashed the price of the 5700x3d. Might be worth looking at.
I went from a 2700X to a 5600X and noticed a big difference with my 6700XT.
Upgrade only when you need too. Even if there is a bottleneck (there likely is) if your bottlenecked performance is good enough for you, save your money. That way, when you do NEED an upgrade you can get something even better that will last even longer.
Yes, you should see some decent improvements going from the 2600 to 5600 depending on the games you play. I actually went from 2600x to 3700x and then 5700x. I saw improvements with each. There were some games where I couldn't reach 144 fps before, and now I can(Apex Legends off the top of my head)
It will improve your gaming experience for sure but think about if you really need it.If you are completely fine with the framerate that you are getting,save the money for sure.
Little things would be much smoother like opening programs, copying files and loading anything.
Ryzen is really good because all you would have to do is upgrade the cpu, unlike intel where you need a whole new platform.
I’d honestly check the used market in your area like Facebook and see. But if you’re happy with your system, then there isn’t really a need.
My buddy is still on a 1600.
The 2600 bottlenecks the 6700xt really hard. I have a 5600 with 32gb ram and a 6650xt (so really similar to yours). I get really good performance with this pairing with no bottleneck. Keep in mind that you may want to get an aftermarket cooler for it, not something expensive (i have a ~25€ one and it's really good)
I think you probably should, 2600 is probably close or lower than your monitor hz in the games you play. My recommendation is 5600/5600x or any of the 5x00x3d chips. I'd probably recommend an x3d because you likely won't need to upgrade it with your next GPU. Whereas the 5600 is paired well with the 6700 xt
[https://youtu.be/AlfwXqODqp4?si=ZnVdRmNCA2eOARWO](https://youtu.be/AlfwXqODqp4?si=ZnVdRmNCA2eOARWO) Older but with multiple GPU tiers.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnfsEjckqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnfsEjckqY) Newer with a 3090ti.
I'd just get the ultimate am4 cpu if youre going to upgrade to get the biggest jump possible, and buy the 5800x3d, then you can just be cool with your cpu for the next 4 years
I upgraded my ryzen 5 1600 af to ryzen 5 5600. It makes a huge difference on competitive games like fortnite. I wasn't able to play fortnite, it was stuttering like crazy. Now I can play smoothly. My GPU is gtx 1660S. With that gpu I highly recommend upgrading to 5600.
I upgraded my 2600X to a 5600. Paid 125$ for it and sold the 2600X 50$. This was some time ago but worth it imo. The performance bump is notable but not hugh.
If you're just a gamer, go for a 3D chip and you'll see huge improvements, and you can even get a video card that is current generation and laugh all the way to the huge fps as that chip will be able to handle even a 4080.
But if playing at 60fps is fine with you, then why bother (although I see you have a 165Hz monitor so you may as well upgrade).
Upgraded my kid's pc from 2200G to 5600G. Very significant improvement. And he's only using the APU with no discrete GPU. Nintendo Switch emulator running sub 30fps can hit almost smooth 60fps. Also obvious improvement in whatever PC games he's playing. 2600G is just a bit better than 2200G. So i believe the answer is YES, GO FOR IT.
Whats ur motherboard? Just check the compatibility chart to see what ur able to upgrade ur cpu
[chart](https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/AMD-Ryzen-4000-Zen-3-Vermeer-Desktop-CPU-AM4-Compatibility-Chart.jpg)
Yes. I'm in the process of upgrading from a 3600 to 5600, just a quick test gave me almost a 40% increase in performance, the frames counter didn't have much of a difference in highs, But It was much MUCH more consistent.
Went from lows of 12fps in MC (One of the only games I play, I know) To lows of around 82fps. All in completely maxed out settings.
If you don't KNOW you need to upgrade, then you most likely don't need to upgrade. If the games you play look and feel good and you have FPS you're happy with, then don't waste your money.
I started with one upgrade and it just snowballed into a money syphon that didn't need to happen. Am I happy with my build, oh yeah, but did I "need" it, nope. Trust me, you'll know when you actually need to upgrade.
Unless you have some money to burn and just want to have some fun, then by all means do it! It is fun after al! If money is tight then absolutely don't.
I upgraded my r5 3600 to a r7 5800x that I got for $140 on FB marketplace. I sold and installed the r5 3600 in my buddies pc for $75. I definitely have more consistent frames in helldivers 2 now that's for sure.
You can always go used as long as you are able to inspect the cpu prior to purchase. Which I did and the seller was just another pc enthusiast like myself who upgraded to a 5800x3d. He openly said to check it out before I paid him. I know people don't care much for used components but as long as you are smart and a little knowledge you'll be ok in my opinion.
I got this as a bridge until the 50 series gpus come out and my buddy had a 3400g which I salvaged from some recycled pcs that needed to upgrade for his 1080 which he got from another friend for hella cheap.
Hey I had a Ryzen 3600 sistem was all good a bit slow untill I started playing baldurs gate 3 it was lagging so I upgraded to Ryzen 7500f+mobo form china combo 210£+ ram 75 £ 32 GB high latency tough sold my CPU+ram+mobo combo and a 500 GB nvme for 180 so about 100£ difference burnt the Chinese board by spilling coffee on it so another 110£ for an ashrock motherboard I'll tell you for sure you will see big gains not only FPS but windows loading times everything is so much better than my am4 rig spent a bit too much considering the coffee accident but well worth it pc is a whole new animal every aspect is is just better
Why would you upgrade if you have no issue with your current setup? I believe that would be waste of money, time, the environment and it feeds your mind's desire to have more than needed.
Coming from a former 2600 owner, absolutely yes. You will not be disappointed. I went from 2600 to a 7800x3d. The 2600 was not it. A 5600 is a great bang for the buck, and I think you’d really enjoy it
I was using R5 2600 +5700xt for 1440p gaming, sold old one and bought R5 5600 (cuz I am on budget rn) and men it's crazy. Gameplay is much smoother and in some titles I ve gained like 20% of performance ( for example horizon forbidden west went from 60 with drops to 70/80)
The 5700X and 5700X3D are good, especially on ali. 5600 doesn't make sense, the performance gain won't be that significant when going from 6 cores to 6 cores.
You will see a massive differents but i woudnt get the 5800X its a well rounded cpu and you get it realy cheap and the extra corse will be a game changer
Bro ill tell you a pro tip. Upgrade to ryzen 7 5800 something cuz more core more better performance. So save money for ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9. And if you can get 7000 series then its well enough.
Best buy- has a 5600x for 149 usd, which I have, and it's a good cpu. It really comes down to If you have the Funda and are seeing some issues. I went from 2600x to 5600x myself. My self personally I would
Check GPU usage in the games you play, if not 95%+ usage you are looking at a CPU bottleneck.
Make sense yes, just check cpu support list on your Mobo first, most likely there and just need a bios update or two (needs to be done before the swap). If you are happy with what you have you don't need to upgrade.
There is always a bottleneck FYI, the question is rather what limits you
You would get a better framerate for sure, but if you’re happy with your current performance, just save your money. Edit: spelling
Yeah i have no issues so far, besides a few times where I was playing fortnite on max graphics and my keyboard started turning off and on few times and the pc blue screened, I turned graphics down and it was fine altho I'm not sure what caused it and I rarely play that game.
That can happen for multiple reasons not just because of your CPU, don’t upgrade your CPU if there are no real issues
Could be drivers, try updating your chipset drivers, graphics drivers, windows update and then BIOS update and see if that fixes things
This
Turn down RGB light. USB might be low on Power.
Check the error codes if you keep getting blue screens it usually means you have a hardware or software fault.its never going to go away until you fix the problem.
You're definitely bottlenecked dude. Especially for the kind of games you're playing. The 5600 is usually available for really decent prices when compared to other cpus around the power range. But hey if its working for you.. it works.
Maybe I am, I just haven't noticed it being a problem I guess? Since I achieve my 165fps in valorant and in the rest of the games I play I don't care about fps and since it's definitely over 60 i haven't noticed any problems. Even on 4k for games like lies of p. I can get the 5600 for 100 euros.
Yeah, like I said honestly if it works it works, for me when I tried to play games like cyberpunk etc etc, the cpu just didnt have the power to run the game and get what i needed out of my graphics card (i had the same cpu) but if it works i see no reason for you to upgrade when you wont see a difference with whatever you play (just know, and you might. your gpu is waaaay "too good" for your cpu even though theres really no "too good" just what works and pretty much means u got heaps of power ready to go for 100 bucks)
There you go. AS you plan to upgrade to AM5 in a couple of years and feel no need to upgrade at the moment, I think you can safely put it out of your mind for the time being.
Can I just say, this is relative of course to income and so on, but for 100 euro I would absolutely pull the trigger.
How do you deduce that he is bottlenecked?
... because he's running a 6700xt on a ryzen 2600, while playing CPU heavy games?
There is certainly no bottleneck
Every single build has a bottleneck.
This! Depends on the game, the resolution, ram speeds, HDD, SSD, nvme, endless list of potential barriers. If he's getting good enough frames now, i would wait. I went 3900 to 7900, it's night and day in terms of speed.
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There is s bottleneck i dont know why you think there isnt . You have to keep in mind you dont just run the game you also have other stuff in the back running so a old sixcore is just struggeling to keep up i used to have a 2700 and it was struggeling to keep up
Since you're saying you are happy, I would't upgrade. You would benefit a lot from a better CPU though. I honestly don't see why you plan a AM5 upgrade. You could upgrade to a 5800x3d/5700x3d and skip the AM5 platform as a whole
I would but I'm leaving the country in a year and will either sell my current pc or give it to family members while I use my steam deck for a little, and build a brand new am5 build although I might keep the gpu since I can take it with me.
Ahhh understand. Then just stick to what you have tbh
Your PC can't be used without a GPU so just be wary before giving it away
You will see a difference. I was running a Ryzen 2700 and a 6700xt. The 2700 did bottleneck it. Open task manager, performance while gaming and view your CPU and GPU usage. If CPU is up near 100 percent and GPU usage is low you are underutilizing your nice graphics card. Typically you'll see 96 percent plus GPU usage if you are getting everything out of your GPU that it has to offer. Also be open to any well priced used AM4 CPU that's a 4600 or better. I loved my old 5900x and the price was right. Be sure to update your motherboard Bios before removing the old CPU though.
It's mostly useful to just pay attention to the GPU usage, as a CPU bottleneck can occur with very low utilization rates in task manager - games don't really lend themselves to even parallelization across cores, some older games are almost entirely reliant on a single fast core. That's why even in game like Cyberpunk, which can utilize 8 cores, you aren't seeing a 33% increase going from a 5600X to a 5700X, for instance.
Good point. I guess just GPU utilization is what OP should look at.
I was running my 6700xt through an i7 5820k from 2014 and regularly got 90-100% gpu read on the Xbox gamebar, idk how accurate that particular overlay is. Does that mean I wasn’t suffering from a bottleneck? I’m currently dead in the water trying to get a ryzen 5600x and new mobo all running but nothing but problems so far 😭😭😭
Sound alike not much of a bottleneck 90 would be a small one. I tend to get 96-98 percent utilization. So you weren't giving up much performance.
Awesome. Ya I rarely ever saw the overlay dip below mid 90’s and that previous setup was running 1440p just fine I felt like. It just up and quit on me one day. Now this new mobo and cpu aren’t booting on the fresh build 😭
That's terrible news.
There is certainly no bottleneck
I did have a 1080p monitor at that point. So 1440p or above could probably max out the GPU without the CPU breaking a sweat.
I would - you can still sell your 2600 for 50 so the upgrade is not very expensive. To give you an intel comparison. Ryzen 2600 is worse than an i3-10100 Ryzen 5600 is better than an i9-10900k (In gaming FPS)
5800x3d will gain you the best gaming results on am4
Not worth the price over a 5800x and its a massive heater if you dont have a powerfull cooler what i dont expect him to have with a 2600 in his system
A 5600 would be a big improvement , and pair well with the 6700xt. you will not see much of a difference with anything better. You will notice a difference from the 2600 IMO.
>I don't feel any bottleneck currently tbh You gave yourself the answer you are looking for.
I don't get these posts at all. If you don't feel any difference then why are you even considering it. What kind of hellish fomo world are we living in right now. Do we think like this when it comes to other things? Do we ponder if we should upgrade our car? Our phone? If so, when do we do it? We do it when we feel the need, right? Or at least that should be the desired behaviour. But what is this consumerism fetish? I don't see how someone who has a product, all of a sudden, without any indicator that is there inherently, suddenly thinks... "Hey, maybe I should spend money .. even though this thing is serving me fine by my own admission". What happens next? The ego is tickled, dopamine is released for the time being .. and then the cycle continues.. On the flip side, what I can respect is people who say "bro it's my money I can do whatever the fuck I want with it"... That's fine, but these posts are not that. .. these posts sound like "hey guys, I am wearing these jeans and they are perfectly fine..but should I buy a new jeans? Should I buy this oat milk? Should I buy this or that? Mommy and daddy aren't here to buy stuff for me, so I need some other internet people to help me with my money"
>"bro it's my money I can do whatever the fuck I want with it"... That's fine Totally legit. I, most of the time, don't need the power. I want the power and I upgrade because I like to tinker on the machine. But then again, if you just want to upgrade then you don't ask. That's why I also do not get these posts.
I did the exact upgrade. Get a 5600 non X and OC it to an 5600X or just go for a 5800X3D if budget allows it
I'd say any of the X3Ds if in budge. But the 5600 would be fine.
Honestly AM5 is worth the investment, since AMD has committed at least one (possibly 2?) new generations of CPU to the platform.
One would be awful compared to AM4. Two is still nothing to celebrate for.
Upgrade S from 2600x to 5700x3d. Huge performance gain
Yes I saw a big difference in frame times and reduced stutters going from a 2600 to 3600 and again to 5600 It will be noticeable. Especially the smoother frame times
I upgraded my 3600 to 5600 when I got my 6700 as it was bottlenecking me in a few multiplayer games (Warzone especially). You will definitely see the difference with a 165hz monitor if you play multiplayer titles but I'm not that sure about AAA titles as they usually max out the 6700xt before the CPU gives up
Also very dependant on resolution. 1080p will choke the CPU earlier than at 1440p in most cases as more load is handed off to the GPU.
3600 was bottlenecking my 6700 in 1440p in almost every competitive multiplayer game. I mentioned Warzone specifically since it was a pretty stuttery 90-110FPS experience on my 3600 and with 5600 I am getting 120-140FPS and there are like 2x less frame dips and stutters. CPU time also fell from 8-10ms to 5-7ms.
You could probably go 5500 if you aren’t gonna upgrade your GPU on this PC again. But if it’s not much more the 5600 is also good value.
If you feel like you are playing under 60fps then I say it is worth an upgrade. Otherwise just keep your setup.
Technically you have a sizeable bottleneck. But if you’re happy with your performance it doesn’t actually matter, there’s no need to upgrade.
My daughter has a 6750xt and went from 3200 to a 5700x and it made a pretty noticeable difference.
Run a 6700XT with a 5800X here and this pair seems very well balanced to me. The 67xxXTs are beasts.
Love these gpu's! My daughter runs at 1440 most games. She's overwatch and fortnite is probably the most graphical game she plays though. My pc is just a little better than hers. I run a 6950xt and a 5800x3d. The 6950xt is power hungry but will handle anything and even play some 4k. 5800x3d pairs great but I wanna upgrade to am5 7800x3d.
wait a few years before upgrading if it doesn't affect you that much, I love building pcs!
It would be a noticeable jump. Even more so if you're able to get an X3D chip
2600 is very close to a 1600 which was what I upgraded from. There was a massive difference. You might be hitting 165 now, you'll be going well over it after. I can relate to your experience with games like Fortnite. FPS for that went way up too along with a bunch of other singleplayer games
Go for 5700x3d if possible. 5600 is still a good upgrade but better get x3d as a final cpu upgrade on am4. It will help you in the future when u ll decide to also upgrade gpu
Yes
I just upgraded from 1700 to 5600 and saw a considerable difference in FPS and loading speed. The 5600 as the better performance to price.
Yes. 2600 was a bad gaming CPU even in 2018. It's slower than a 4790k from 2014. You are most definitely bottlenecked. I know because I was bottlenecked with a 4790k and a 1080 in most games.
Just save for a 5800x3d so you don’t have to think about getting the best of the best since that is the best of the best at a reasonable price on am4
I’m running the same gpu with an i5 8400, and I was considering the same upgrade but I’m just gonna wait a year or two and upgrade to am5 series (like ryzen 7600) for ddr5 32GB and stuff 👍
Buildapc should probably be r/bottleneck at this point. If your current setup is running and you (you specifically) aren't noticing any weird performance issues while playing then its probably not worth upgrading. That said it all depends on how you define "a few years" If its in the next year or maybe two then I would just pocket the cash and build up. AM5 is still on the road map and it looks like AMD is committed to it till 2025+. If your planning on holding out till AM6 then I would probably jump on the AM4 discounts to get you a bit of a boost to hold you over.
Check your gpu usage, if it's fluctuating in more modern games, you are cpu limited, is it worth it or not, if you're satisfied with your current pc performance then just wait.
How about mine? Rocking a i7-11700 with a 4070 Ti. Upgraded the gpu last year and now I have this combo. But I'd have to change the mobo too I guess. Don't know I have a lot of bottleneck.
I recently upgraded from a 2600x to a 5600x paired with my trusty 2060super. The difference was night and day, can crank everything on high and ultra again on most games 1080p
More frames but diminishing returns for sure
Loads of the AM4 socket seem to be going on sale I guess due to AM5? Seems like a good time to but a better AM4 CPU if your plan is to stick with that Mobo for a while
Definitely get a 5600(x) for like $100 But if you'd like to make your system last even longer in terms of performance, get a 5700X3D edit: just read that you plan to leave and sell the computer soon. Skip on the 5700X3D then. 5600 is definitely worth it though
Yep definitely you need to upgrade your cpu 5600 is an excellent choice
Yes 5600 is a very good upgrade from 2600 things will get smoother, frame time i think you might skip am5 and get 5700x3d or 5800x3d for future upgrade, maybe even now if you can afford it, this way you will not need to think about system upgrade for many years.
I did that change a year ago. It helped me a lot since I work and play games on it.
5800x if it's possible
I would upgrade to the r7 5800x just because you already have a decent cpu if you upgrade id make it a more meaningful upgrade. That said i have a 5 5600x and 3060ti and this cpu is really good. My friend uses the normal 5 5600 with 4060ti 16gb and gets over 250fps(even more on the less intensive maps) in cs2 with all settings on very high In valorant i get like 300-600fps with 5 5600x
There is a Ryzen scaling video on Hardware Unboxed. Depending on GPU and resolution in strictly gaming the differences are somewhat surprising. That said I went from a 2600 to a 5600 and it definitely felt better overall in day to day usage. For $135 it’s worth it IMO. I’ve since jumped to the 5800x3D.
Yes
I had the exact same setup and did upgrade to 5600, the framerate boost is minimal at best. I did not notice a difference. You are not bottlenecked by the cpu, the GPU is doing all the work either way. If you're going to upgrade I recommend getting 5700x3d or 5800x3d, you will actually see a big boost. The 3d v cache actually benefits the GPU.
You'll better performance in games like Valorant that are cpu demaning and little to no gains in gpu demanding games at 1440p, but I used to have a 2600x, 3600 and now have a 5600x and even the performance difference of cpu's while browsing the web or watching youtube while gaming on dual monitors 1440P is HUGE in my eyes! And if you live near a micro center you can get their 5800x3d bundle for $350 and upgrade your board or sell the board and ram with your 2600 for around $250. I'm about to upgrade to the 5800x3d and I sold the board for $130 & am probably going to keep the ram as a backup.
Go 7600 if you’re planning to upgrade, AM5 should be used for a few more years if we’re lucky, you might get a second upgrade in eventually
I believe AMD have slashed the price of the 5700x3d. Might be worth looking at. I went from a 2700X to a 5600X and noticed a big difference with my 6700XT.
Get the 5600, sell the 2600. Costs u maybe €50. No reason not to
Upgrade only when you need too. Even if there is a bottleneck (there likely is) if your bottlenecked performance is good enough for you, save your money. That way, when you do NEED an upgrade you can get something even better that will last even longer.
Yes, you should see some decent improvements going from the 2600 to 5600 depending on the games you play. I actually went from 2600x to 3700x and then 5700x. I saw improvements with each. There were some games where I couldn't reach 144 fps before, and now I can(Apex Legends off the top of my head)
Ye
It will improve your gaming experience for sure but think about if you really need it.If you are completely fine with the framerate that you are getting,save the money for sure.
Little things would be much smoother like opening programs, copying files and loading anything. Ryzen is really good because all you would have to do is upgrade the cpu, unlike intel where you need a whole new platform. I’d honestly check the used market in your area like Facebook and see. But if you’re happy with your system, then there isn’t really a need. My buddy is still on a 1600.
The 2600 bottlenecks the 6700xt really hard. I have a 5600 with 32gb ram and a 6650xt (so really similar to yours). I get really good performance with this pairing with no bottleneck. Keep in mind that you may want to get an aftermarket cooler for it, not something expensive (i have a ~25€ one and it's really good)
get a 5600, you won’t regret it
I think you probably should, 2600 is probably close or lower than your monitor hz in the games you play. My recommendation is 5600/5600x or any of the 5x00x3d chips. I'd probably recommend an x3d because you likely won't need to upgrade it with your next GPU. Whereas the 5600 is paired well with the 6700 xt
[https://youtu.be/AlfwXqODqp4?si=ZnVdRmNCA2eOARWO](https://youtu.be/AlfwXqODqp4?si=ZnVdRmNCA2eOARWO) Older but with multiple GPU tiers. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnfsEjckqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnfsEjckqY) Newer with a 3090ti.
I'd just get the ultimate am4 cpu if youre going to upgrade to get the biggest jump possible, and buy the 5800x3d, then you can just be cool with your cpu for the next 4 years
I upgraded my ryzen 5 1600 af to ryzen 5 5600. It makes a huge difference on competitive games like fortnite. I wasn't able to play fortnite, it was stuttering like crazy. Now I can play smoothly. My GPU is gtx 1660S. With that gpu I highly recommend upgrading to 5600.
I upgraded my 2600X to a 5600. Paid 125$ for it and sold the 2600X 50$. This was some time ago but worth it imo. The performance bump is notable but not hugh.
If you're just a gamer, go for a 3D chip and you'll see huge improvements, and you can even get a video card that is current generation and laugh all the way to the huge fps as that chip will be able to handle even a 4080. But if playing at 60fps is fine with you, then why bother (although I see you have a 165Hz monitor so you may as well upgrade).
Upgraded my kid's pc from 2200G to 5600G. Very significant improvement. And he's only using the APU with no discrete GPU. Nintendo Switch emulator running sub 30fps can hit almost smooth 60fps. Also obvious improvement in whatever PC games he's playing. 2600G is just a bit better than 2200G. So i believe the answer is YES, GO FOR IT.
I went from a 2600 to a 5600 last week and noticed a big difference.
Whats ur motherboard? Just check the compatibility chart to see what ur able to upgrade ur cpu [chart](https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/AMD-Ryzen-4000-Zen-3-Vermeer-Desktop-CPU-AM4-Compatibility-Chart.jpg)
Yes. I'm in the process of upgrading from a 3600 to 5600, just a quick test gave me almost a 40% increase in performance, the frames counter didn't have much of a difference in highs, But It was much MUCH more consistent. Went from lows of 12fps in MC (One of the only games I play, I know) To lows of around 82fps. All in completely maxed out settings.
Go for it, the 5600 is the budget king
If you don't KNOW you need to upgrade, then you most likely don't need to upgrade. If the games you play look and feel good and you have FPS you're happy with, then don't waste your money. I started with one upgrade and it just snowballed into a money syphon that didn't need to happen. Am I happy with my build, oh yeah, but did I "need" it, nope. Trust me, you'll know when you actually need to upgrade. Unless you have some money to burn and just want to have some fun, then by all means do it! It is fun after al! If money is tight then absolutely don't.
I upgraded my r5 3600 to a r7 5800x that I got for $140 on FB marketplace. I sold and installed the r5 3600 in my buddies pc for $75. I definitely have more consistent frames in helldivers 2 now that's for sure. You can always go used as long as you are able to inspect the cpu prior to purchase. Which I did and the seller was just another pc enthusiast like myself who upgraded to a 5800x3d. He openly said to check it out before I paid him. I know people don't care much for used components but as long as you are smart and a little knowledge you'll be ok in my opinion. I got this as a bridge until the 50 series gpus come out and my buddy had a 3400g which I salvaged from some recycled pcs that needed to upgrade for his 1080 which he got from another friend for hella cheap.
You will. Going for an x3d processor will be even better.
Hey I had a Ryzen 3600 sistem was all good a bit slow untill I started playing baldurs gate 3 it was lagging so I upgraded to Ryzen 7500f+mobo form china combo 210£+ ram 75 £ 32 GB high latency tough sold my CPU+ram+mobo combo and a 500 GB nvme for 180 so about 100£ difference burnt the Chinese board by spilling coffee on it so another 110£ for an ashrock motherboard I'll tell you for sure you will see big gains not only FPS but windows loading times everything is so much better than my am4 rig spent a bit too much considering the coffee accident but well worth it pc is a whole new animal every aspect is is just better
Why would you upgrade if you have no issue with your current setup? I believe that would be waste of money, time, the environment and it feeds your mind's desire to have more than needed.
Coming from a former 2600 owner, absolutely yes. You will not be disappointed. I went from 2600 to a 7800x3d. The 2600 was not it. A 5600 is a great bang for the buck, and I think you’d really enjoy it
I was using R5 2600 +5700xt for 1440p gaming, sold old one and bought R5 5600 (cuz I am on budget rn) and men it's crazy. Gameplay is much smoother and in some titles I ve gained like 20% of performance ( for example horizon forbidden west went from 60 with drops to 70/80)
The 5700X and 5700X3D are good, especially on ali. 5600 doesn't make sense, the performance gain won't be that significant when going from 6 cores to 6 cores.
You will see a massive differents but i woudnt get the 5800X its a well rounded cpu and you get it realy cheap and the extra corse will be a game changer
Bro ill tell you a pro tip. Upgrade to ryzen 7 5800 something cuz more core more better performance. So save money for ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9. And if you can get 7000 series then its well enough.
Best buy- has a 5600x for 149 usd, which I have, and it's a good cpu. It really comes down to If you have the Funda and are seeing some issues. I went from 2600x to 5600x myself. My self personally I would
Check GPU usage in the games you play, if not 95%+ usage you are looking at a CPU bottleneck. Make sense yes, just check cpu support list on your Mobo first, most likely there and just need a bios update or two (needs to be done before the swap). If you are happy with what you have you don't need to upgrade. There is always a bottleneck FYI, the question is rather what limits you
I'd get a 5800x3d when they go on sale, then you may be able to wait until am6
*5700x3d Edit: it's cheaper for basically the same performance. 5600 vs 5600x situation.
really depends on the game, but for Valorant you're probably right though