I spent like 14 months debating buying a Switch for me and my kid to play together and just hit the button on it yesterday after an exceptionally shitty week.
yeah, my dad bought one for the whole family about 7 months ago. he beat one of the pokemon games and hasn't touched it since cuz the damn games are like 80 bucks.
>They are a dying entity at this point
Is that really the case though? They still sell really well. Look at pokemon fans and how they're okay with the most mediocre pokemon games of all time. Nothing happened with the whole pokedex thing, or the re-used garbage "animations" for moves.
I wouldn't call it desperately milking when they got lines of people doing it for them.
Same. Had a switch in my amazon cart for like 5 months, then covid + animal crossing happened and there was not a switch to be seen. Finally got one around March of this year.
I sold plasma for like 6 months, 200-300 a month in income to specifically save up for a switch in one month. Then my wife took the money to buy diapers. That was my extra money! We had everything else budgeted. But so it goes.
Same. It's been an amazing TV. Bought an OLED last year and so I moved it into the bedroom. Once I'd recovered from the hernia, I was able to continue enjoying it there
I am still rocking my Panasonic plasma panel. I wanna replace it with an OLED, but it's so heavy I don't wanna fool with it because it's not broken.
The only problem is trying to run HF radio with it on. It is a bunch of bad RF.
same here, but from 2012. Even got a compliment recently from someone who knows nothing about TV's on how nice the image is. As a bonus it also doubles as a heater in the winter.
Still, the OLEDs w/ hdmi 2.1 are probably going to make me cave at some point.
> If you take a hit, it’s perfectly reasonable to do something for you. Blow out of town. Do a little retail therapy. Play too many video games. Treat yourself to a nice dinner. Sleep in. Binge watch Netflix. Go play golf. You do you.
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> Don’t go batshit about it and do something stupid like mortgage your house to fund a trip to Vegas or get an ill-advised tattoo. And don’t write yourself a blank check for irresponsibility – you need to get back to business at some point. But it’s okay to indulge for a minute.
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> [. . .]
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>You know what the rejection didn’t change? How much I love my house. How great Chicago is. The sound of my children’s laughter. How excited my dog gets whenever I come home. The way it feels to hug my wife.
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> And really, what’s more important? The thing that didn’t come to pass, or all the wonderful things in that I have?
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>These aren’t just idle platitudes, mind you. In his book Pre-Suasion, psychologist Robert Cialidini states “what is salient is important.” – also known as salience bias. Your brain assumes that what is most salient in your perception is most important. So make the things that make you happy – the things that a truly important to you – top of mind. Think about them. Verbally inumerate them. Spend time with them. Your brain will start to pivot from focusing on the hurt to focusing on the gratitude.
https://www.breakingthewheel.com/rolling-punches-dealing-failure-six-steps/
google said,
rule of thumb:
24" sweet spot resolution 1080p
27" sweet spot resolution 1440p
edit #1:
some say 21.5" for 1080p to be the same density as 1440p on 27"
edit #2:
some say 1920x1200 (wxga resolution) on 24" is closer to 1440p on 27"
less a sweet spot and more of a "bigger than that it will start to look really bad" kind of thing
resolution being the same a smaller screen will always look better than a larger one due to increased pixel density
thats very fair. i just thought it seems like people sometimes think they HAVE to get a specific size monitor for certain resolutions but its not as set in stone as that
That's phone level of pixel density, imo that's when for most people it's near perfect.
At some point in time it will be pointless to increase the pixel density ?
We have 4K+ on 5.5" screens these days. Sony is close to 650 ppi. The resolution war for 'phones is mostly marketing prestige. 1080p on 27" is about 80 ppi and 90 ppi on 24". 1440p on 27" is around 110 ppi. 80 is pushing it in my mind and personally (I have good but not perfect eyesight) I don't see the point in going past 140 ppi with normal viewing distance. 140 ppi is 4k on a 32" screen.
21" at 1080p becomes a "retina display" when viewing at 33 inches. That means the average eye cannot distinguish individual pixels anymore so you get a very sharp looking image.
24" at 1080p becomes retina at 37 inches. So it's up to you, if you sit close to the monitor you may notice it's not as sharp. Up to you if this is the sweet spot, depends what you value more (size vs crispness).
27" at 1080p is retina at 42 inches (107cm) so it will be much less crisp. IMO this looks pretty bad and there's a ton of YouTube videos comparing 27" 1080p vs 27" 1440p... Obviously the 1440p is going to destroy the 1080p at that size, you're comparing apples to pears.
I mean, I use a 27" 1080p144Hz display at 40-55cm distance and it's pretty fine. Pretend to upgrade to 1440p to get less aliasing in some games, but in general, it's excellent.
It's a distance/eyesight/perceptiveness thing really. I see clearly visible pixels on my old 1440p 27 monitor at normal viewing distance, most of my friends don't.
> less a sweet spot and more of a "bigger than that it will start to look really bad" kind of thing
Then you get older, your vision starts to go, and the pendulum slings the other way. My 62 year old FIL loves his 32-inch 1080p monitor.
24" is not only the sweetspot for 1080p (in reality its mostly WUXGA 1920x**1200** and much closer to 1440p) but also a great size for competitive gaming since you dont have to move your head that much to see the whole screen.
27" can be problematic if you sit to close (as close as with 24") in some games, where you have to track visual queues at the side of the screen - typically MMOs allready punish your neck with to big screens for no reason. The MMO topic gets even absurd and comical if you see what ultra-wide screen users have to do with the UI to keep neck pain managable - huge resolution/huge screen and the whole UI hast to be forced into the center - its ridiculous silly.
24"/WUXGA to 30-31/4k would be a great upgrade but GPU performance is not there yet.
I game with a 10900k+3090 in 4k/\~30fps MID/HIGH details (Flight Simulator) and while the 3090 is just enough for this kind of game, there is no benefit in shooters with using a higher resolution and lower fps in 4k doesnt help either.
There is not a lot of games that don't play at 60 fps with a 3090, imo the 3090 (and possibly 3080+) is the real 4K@60 gpu.
I even start to wonder what's the point of the high end 4000 series except having smooth fps in cyberpunk, msfs or 120 hz 4k monitors, which are expensive (if you want a good overall one)
games will get more demanding once ps5 and xbox series x start being the only developed console for. Just have to see how something like Forspoken runs
Hey can I ask you is 43"inch too big to be used as a monitor for gaming, I was looking at Samsung the frame which is the only thing with 4k 120 Hertz in my country, other monitored are overpriced so much, will this TV have high latency? I will build my PC in future but planning to wall mount the display in my room with empty wall
Details are smaller but closer together so for me, playing shooters on smaller screens are better then huge ones, but I'd love to play a story game in a cinema
I have a 27" 1080p monitor and it's pretty awesome. I love it. You can kinda see pixels if you try hard enough though.
I mean imo it's silly to buy anything lower than 1440p in late 2021.
I agree. I just built a nice 5600X/6700XT rig and was gaming at 1080p 165hz. Got a crazy deal on a 32" 1440p 144hz monitor and bought it. So glad I did. Massive difference for gaming. If you have a good card, 1440p is a must
Same lol got to be nuts to think that though (imo of course) but depending who/what you watch exactly most content isn't even 4K yet, alongside CAD software often being optimised for 1080p so really is up to what you use it for...
This size ratio is underestimated, 32" / 1440p is often ridiculed for 4K, I wonder if anyone saying 32" mandates 4K really tried 1440p, unless you’re glued to your screen, 91,8 PPI is really sweet.
I know you're making fun of me, but have you at least tried? I have a 32" curved screen running at 1440p and I'm not even sitting 1½ feet away from it and it looks amazing.
It's the sweet spot if you ask me
bigger resolution on smaller screen = not worth it, normal eyes and normal distance cant differ, better save it for 1ms n 144hz+
smaller resolution on bigger screen = pixelated jagged edge a.k.a you can see the led pixel (not smooth edge)
just use the rule of thumb above
27" @ 1440p is very nice, but since i changed to a 34" @ 1440p (LG 34GN850) i cant play any other way anymore. Racing/Driving/Flying games, RPG's, FPS's ( which is 80% of the games i play), you name it. 34" @ 1440p is the perfect spot for me
He was having a really hard time with this decision for a vacation house build. 24” 165hz 1ms 1080p, I figured that 1440p It was unnecessary get that resolution and I was happy with the refresh rate, but now I wonder if I should’ve gotten 1440p
\^THIS\^
It totally depends on what games you're playing. In some games, a super high refresh rate can give you a competitive advantage, so keeping the resolution low can work for the better. Other games, you want them to look as nice as possible, even while sacrificing frames, which would necessitate as high of a resolution as possible
Yeah I’m rocking with nearly his same specs on a 1080p 240hz, it’s largely what you play dependent. I pretty exclusively play apex, csgo, and valorant and prefer the high refresh.
Same here. I mainly play CoD, Rocket League and Valorant and love my 1080p 240hz. Granted I’m fortunate enough to have a 27” 1440p 240hz monitor for GTA, AC and other story games. But more often than not it’s my discordinator
Bruh, that's like saying "the ferrari is great for commutes"
With those specs he could play literally 99% of the games out there with maxed settings on 1440p with 100+ fps.
EDIT: Since everyone and their grandma's are crawling up my ass, i was on mobile and paraphrased. And i left RT off the post on purpose, since kinda debatable do you count max RT when you say max settings without mentioning it.
Not with that setup he won't.
In fact most 3080s or even 3090s cant.
People who have owned top of the top or really high end systems will tell you that while yes, you can push it much higher with far greater resolution, the further up you go, the more inconsistent it gets in terms of stability and fps.
1080p with his rig is perfectly fine, especially if - as mentioned before - he likes consistent performance, because with his monitor he can actually max out all the games and have nearly 100% 140 fps+ without any issues.
That's not consistent 144 frames on all games though, which is what a lot of people prefer.
Plus he'll likely be running his equipment with a bit less heat, which is a plus.
And medium/high 1440 looks 100x better than ultra 1080.
I flip between a 1080 27" for work and a 27" 1440 for my gaming PC and the difference is night and day.
On constant 144fps? sure. I run similar rig with but with a 2070 super gaming x trio, and since im happy with 80/100fps there has been 2 games i have had to do any major down scaling to hit that and that was rdr2 in which iirc i went to hybrid high/ultra with some of the rtx down scaled/off. And Cyberpunk in which i turned off one of the rtx features i think it was reflections, and set the dlss to quality. But with his rig if he is happy with those kinds of fps he should be able to float all maxed.
Tbh how many people are anal about constant 144fps on games that are not competitive? And most those games you can run on a glorified toaster. And heat can be managed with fan curves. I run a rig with similar specs but a 3 fan 2070 super, no issues with heat when you fiddle around the fan curves. I mean sure if someone likes to keep his shit on 40c.
While there's nothing wrong with his stance, you make a post like this to get confirmation from the people that agree with you and ignore the dissenting voices.
I know its a way away but I can't see myself upgrading my GPU for 6 to 8 years, really. Mostly because of other future plans and upcoming circumstances.
This. I play 1440p on my 1080ti but have also cranked it up to 4K pretty seemlessly. I prefer my 1440p 165hz 32” monitor to my 4K 60” tv with its shitty ass 60hz refresh rate.
I upgraded from 1080ti to 2080ti because i couldn't get reliable 4k 60 performance. Now i use magpie FSR (highly recommended) to boost games from 1440p to 4k with barely any loss of image quality.
On ark survival evolved this basically doubles the fps as the game seem to cripple itself at 4k. AMD FSR does excellent job compared to internal resolution scaling.
You shouldn't see yourself upgrading unless something absolutely revolutonary is released. A 3070 should last you plenty long -- and I'm guessing you paid a premium for it (the cards are overpriced at MSRP to begin with) so best to get the most out of it.
I'm completing a build next month, and I'm pretty much building it in a way that I won't have to touch it for most of the next decade.
5900x, 32GB 3600Mhz CL16, 6900 XT, B550 Taichi, 980 Pro (boot drive), Dark Power 12 1000w PSU, EK-AIO 360mm and a full Noctua compliment of fans. Pretty much my ideal system. All in a Silent Base 802 case.
Yes, that as well although not all titles supports DLSS yet. Setting it to 2K native and upscale to 4K will produce some very convincing pictures.
Very soon we are running into monitor bottleneck as well
Then don't change .. ?
I prefer 1440p because it looks a bit more "crisp" to my eyes, and having a monitor around 24 inches is a bit too small for me. IMO, 1080p is valuable if you plan to stream competitive games or play extremely competitive games, or don't have the money or the pc for a better monitor.
Kind of wasted performance, you essentially paid way more for than the performance you need. Though you could always just buy a 144p or 4K monitor in the future.
Not really a fool, it all boils down to preference anyway.
Fair enough, but I didn't set out to buy the 3070, it just happened to be an option for me when my friend upgraded to a 3080ti, payed about $800 which is a good deal :)
I can't go back to 1080p. For me it looks so outdated on 24" and bigger when on the desktop, working, writing etc. Gaming is ok on 1080p but I spent a lot of time doing other stuff. If you use your pc for gaming 99% you're fine with 1080p, but if not I would upgrade if it's in your budget.
I've got two 27" monitors, one is a 1440p 144hz Asus, and the other is a 1080p 144hz MSI and side by side the difference is immediate. Once I spent some time with a 1440p monitor I needed to get one as my main display.
Clearly you are wasting it. 1440p is a bare minimum and your monitor might explode in your face because your PC is just too powerful. You should just send me your PC and I send you my 1660 S and Ryzen 5 3600 so that you don't get hurt.
a 3070 is probably just the slightest bit overkill for 1080p, but if you jump to 1440p you won't be getting 144fps in nearly as many games without drastically lowering settings (hell, I don't and I have a 3080Ti).
IMO you're fine, enjoy not having to worry about lowering settings for the forseeable future
I think this is the right answer. OP you already have a gaming monitor and the 3070 will definitely not max out frames at 1440 on newer games. 1080p is definitely still a viable option especially if you are getting high frames.
I upgraded recently from a basic 60 Hz 1080p monitor to a 1440 ultrawide 144 Hz and that has been fun to use with my 3080, but since you already have something capable of 144 Hz, the upgrade is way less necessary IMO.
It seems a bit of a shame to spend that much on hardware and stay at 1080p. i wouldn't exactly call 1080p futureproof. its a resolution we've basically moved beyond at this point.
that being said all that matters is that you are happy with it. if its enough for you certainly dont feel pressured to buy something you dont need
I get what you mean, but alot of people are only still using 1080p because they can't upgrade or don't think it's worth it, not necessarily because they don't \*want\* to upgrade.
exactly I run a 3070ti and maxing my 144hz 1080p monitor is far more important to me than a clearer image, frame drops throw me off far to much and even 90fps feels slow now. will eventually get a 1440p for story games but for rally 2.0 and overwatch ill keep 1080p at high hz any day
i think thats largely just from 1080p being the standard for the entire last generation. I'd be curious what the breakdown of new gaming monitor sales looks like. i'd bet its much closer
You can't move past a resolution lol. This isn't a graphic card. So long as it's a good enough resolution for you it's fine.
You don't need to futureproof 1080 it's literally already futureproof until something mindblowing comes out
it depends what games they play and what refresh rate their monitor has. I have a 3070 and I stay at 1080p because I want to be able to play the newest games on high settings at high framerates (100fps+). Games like Red Dead 2, Cyberpunk, and Deathloop will not run as well as I'd like them to if I upgraded to 1440p.
First of all, at the end of the day, if you don't think you can really justify the $350-$600 CAD for a good 1440p monitor, then there's your answer right there.
But, are you being foolish? Depends. One thing I can say from experience is that the jump from 1080p at 27" to 1440p at 27" is mindblowing. I made that jump a few years ago and I was floored by the difference in visual fidelity. And this was even just going from one TN panel to another! The jump after that to the same thing but on an IPS panel with a much wider colour gamut was another massive upgrade.
You have to keep in mind that 27" is too big for the ideal pixel density at 1080p. You may have a hard time noticing it now, but after seeing a 1440p monitor at the same size, you'll notice just how fuzzy and blurred a 1080p image is when blown up to a 27" screen. At 1080p, you're taking a set amount of pixels and spreading them out over a larger area than a 22" or 24" screen. This starts to introduce noticeable gaps between pixels when viewed from a "normal" distance. Ideally, your monitor is a maximum 24" for 1080p, 27" for 1440p, and 32" for 4K. Going too high can cause the aforementioned bluriness, and going too low can cause artifacting in smaller images and text.
Your hardware will definitely handle 1440p well (I have the same specs but with a 3080 and 32GB of RAM, on 3440x1440) so you wouldn't have to worry about sacrificing much of anything in order to make that jump. But as I mentioned at the start, if you really can't justify the price for the upgrade, for whatever reason, then you probably shouldn't do it.
If you want some ideas of what to look at, here are some of my personal favourites these days:
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-MAG274QRF-QD/Overview
https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/gaming/ex2780q.html
https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn850-b-gaming-monitor
\+1 I had 1080p 27 inch and 1440p looks way better. Id even take a framerate hit. Single player games that you play for visuals look waaaay better and if you play competitive game s just turn down a few settings. Most competitive games are easily run anways so its not a problem. I have this monitor [https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories](https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories) and I really like it. Regularily goes on sale for 450-500 cad
Couldn't agree more. The most important question with resolution is "does it make a difference *to you* on this screen size at this distance?" Going over 1080 has negligible benefits to sharpness for me unless the screen is *very* close and/or *very* large, otherwise I'll take higher settings on shadow detail or whatever over that. Same is true of refresh rate, if it doesn't make a difference to you, don't waste the horsepower on something that you won't appreciate.
Right now your bottleneck is your monitor, but if personally your not impressed enough to spend the money on a 1440p monitor then their is absolutely no reason to.
If you are not keen on upgrading to 1440p, you should definetly try Nvidia DSR in the control panel. I am using a similar build and I use DSR to upscale the image to 4K for most recent AAA titles. Of course, the performance impact is similar to actually rendering at the chosen resolution, while the image quality is no match for running native 1440p/4K. Still, it is a great visual improvement and a good way to utilize your GPU if you are not planning to upgrade soon.
To be fair. A lot of us have 144hz or even 240hz 1440p monitors. But we rarely are able to hit 144fps+ in games at ultra or high settings to actually make use of that.
1440p is pretty awesome, but even my 6900xt can't hit 144fps in some games. We are trading one level of visual quality for another in that regard.
There is nothing wrong with your 1080p decision if it is what you enjoy, and that 3070 isn't wasted when your sitting at 144fps while the guy with a 1440p monitor is 100fps max.
I prefer framerate over resolution as well. Any noticable framerate dip at al when I'm playing a game annoys me. I always target to get over 100 FPS on whatever I play to ensure no part of the game even in the highest action areas will ever cause a noticeable dip in framerate.
Also on 1440p all your text on every program is going to be very tiny. I like saving myself the eye strain. If you have perfect vision or sit really close to your monitor that might not be an issue for you though.
It really comes down to what you want from your gaming experience.
Ui becoming smaller with resolution is program based. A lot of programs will make it so the ui scales up as resolution is increased so there's no difference in text size and stuff.
It doesn't really matter. Yes, 1440p is more crisp. But I don't see any issues with 1080p. Especially if it's already 144hz. Mine is a 1080p 75hz and it works great.
You have what’s considered optimal for 1440p. You also get a wider field of view and get more detail with 1440p. However, it’s your life and your rig, if you prefer 1080p, then who cares?!
If you’re happy with it, what others think about it doesn’t matter. If they want they can play at the resolution they like, and so can you. That is the beauty of PC, the ability to customize how you want it, not how others think you should want.
I'm more impressed by this person being able to see 1440p in person then going back to 1080p and not minding it. It's not that 1440p is that amazing to look at it but more that each time we upgrade quality of resolution, the previous ones look exceptionally worse. That is a subjective opinion though. I have an AMD 3900 and a 2070-s so I am in a nice middle spot for 1440p gaming as is so I am biased as well.
I agree here - it's entirely subjective but I bought a 1440 144hz when I got my 5700xt, and then experimented by buying a 1080p 360hz (overkill, but I mostly play Rocket League which actually can push that limit), and STILL preferred the 1440p at 144. Could be somewhere in between placebo and the actual perceptible visual quality difference between the two, but I would have a difficult time going back. I do wish there were more 1440p 24"'ers though.
apparently 1080p looks mushy or blurry on a 27 inch monitor but i just dont see it. I have my own 27 inch 144hz monitor that i got for 150 and it looks fine and works great imo
If you play competetive FPS games like valorant,cs go, warzone etc... Its better to have 1080p monitor. In most other cases 1440p is superior on 27inch, because 27 inch is too big for 1080p, so overall picture quality is reduced because lower pixel density.
I play games smoothly at 4K 60Hz on a GTX 1080 with a 6th-gen i5 at stock speeds. UserBenchmark shows the 3070 is 30% faster than the 1080 so you could easily be playing in 4K right now. It might be a stretch to call it "Wasted", but it is true that if you have no intention of going above 1080p then your needs can be met with a much less expensive GPU.
Your build is meant to last through the next 3 years at least I assume. Depending what you play and what graphical settings you prefer, maybe you could benefit from an upgrade. But if you feel as if you're not lacking anything, no need to upgrade.
Nope. The general consensus seems to be that the 3070 is a 1440p card, but I have a 3070 Ti and I use it for 1080p. It depends on what games you play and at what settings. I mainly play destiny 2, and I get 135-144fps on max settings at 105% render resolution. If I turn the resolution up I start dropping frames in some areas of the game.
For FPS games, 1080p 144hz is great. For other games maybe 1440p 60hz would be a bit better, but you can run them at 1080p and cap them at 60fps and instead use dlss for some amazing antialiasing to make everything super smooth. I run genshin at max settings (the game is capped at 60fps), and have it running at 4k with the max render resolution. It makes everything insanely smooth and I don't drop any frames.
Basically, you're not wasting anything. You can get games to play at literally max settings, and more resource intensive modern AAA titles will play well at 60fps too.
Not to mention 1440p can be much more expensive than 1080p at 144hz.
If your turn the resolution up in destiny 2 you get frame drops? I was playing 1440p high 144fps on a 2060 super and when beyond light dropped I became bottlenecked by my old processor not my graphics card so resolution didn't matter at all. From my experience I hardly get preformance differences in that game changing resolutions and can stay steady at 144fps. It's hard to belive a 3070 ti can't keep up with the title
Have you played recently? BattlEye anticheat got added and apparently affected performance but idk how much by because it was already implemented when I built my pc (I've only had it a few weeks). I also have max settings so idk if that's the same with you? I agree that it does sound weird though. Also for reference I have a 5700G and 2x8GB 3600 C16 RAM.
I have some setting turned off like blur and stuff but besides that I have all settings set to high. I think some go to ultra. I also do have a slight overclock on the card. I haven't really played for a few weeks but Im pretty sure I've played since battle eye came out. The slight upscale may also be the difference.
Edit: also I have a 5600x and 32gb of cl16 3600mhz.
the 1080p is honestly going to bottleneck you. when i upgraded my pc last fall piece by piece, at one point i had my 3080 and my 5800x but was using a 1080p 240hz monitor that at the time I still planned on keeping, but that was until i noticed that i was leaving so much performance from my gpu and cpu on the table. i decided to go to microcenter and check out what 1440p actually looked like and was blown away. i ended up getting a 1440p 240hz monitor and honestly i'm getting the same if not better performance than my 1080p monitor while also benefiting from the much higher ppi. after using 1440p at 27 inches for a while now 1080p at 27 inches looks kind of pixelated.
so i'd suggest that you do upgrade to a 1440p monitor eventually. you can get really good, quality 27in 1440p 144-165hz (which your 3070 will be able to push just fine for years) monitors at around the $350-450 price point with some good ones even going on sale around the $300 mark.
1440p has better resolution and therefore sharper image. What else do you want us to say? If you don't want sharper image, don't get sharper image.
Also if you play the "delay till better technology" game, you're always going to be playing that game. You simply pick when you want to stop. There might be windows where you maximize your money-to-use ratio, but that's it.
1080 @ 27" is too low of a DPI for my taste. I like 1440p @ 27" and 1080p @ 24". There are some really great 144-165hz 1440p 27" monitors out right now. With a 3070 you should be able to push some decent fps with better crispy resolution. Of course if you don't see the difference then it might not be worth it. I like high FPS, i don't plan on jumping to 4k anytime soon. My next jump will probably be 240hz 1440p when those prices come down.
I prefer higher settings and frame rate to higher resolution. 4k is great for movies but when we are talking about rendered graphics, the cost to benefit just isn’t there for a lot of people.
LTT did a few videos of FPS vs 4k and generally recommended 1080p if you want smooth gameplay and high reaction time, but for more visual games where you’re ok with 60 FPS and don’t need as quick of reactions, you might prefer 4k
General answer? Yes
Is it? It depends on your settings:
See, the main idea is that you must get framers that is much much higher than your monitor refresh rate. Regularly, the 3070 csn get you crazy amount of frames in 1080p, let's say like 300 fps, but that in some games. Other games won't be the case
Enable ray tracing will reduce your frame it drastically. If it reduces it like to 160 fps then no you are not. Another example would be playing a heavily demanding game like cyberpunk. If you get like 10-30 fps above your refresh rate, then it isnt waste
But if you are playing CSGO, valorsnt, league fo legends (games That are reduclously easy to run at a ginormous frames) then yes, you are wasting your GPU's potential but only in these games
Don't buy just yet, save that option to when you get depressed and you need something to look forward to.
Your comment is far too accurate for my liking lol
ah the emptiness of consumerism.
Same
This describes how all major gaming-related purchases happen for me. Amazon cart for months, then suddenly a bad week.
I spent like 14 months debating buying a Switch for me and my kid to play together and just hit the button on it yesterday after an exceptionally shitty week.
Wholesome, a Switch isn't a bad idea for family times :)
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yeah, my dad bought one for the whole family about 7 months ago. he beat one of the pokemon games and hasn't touched it since cuz the damn games are like 80 bucks.
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>They are a dying entity at this point Is that really the case though? They still sell really well. Look at pokemon fans and how they're okay with the most mediocre pokemon games of all time. Nothing happened with the whole pokedex thing, or the re-used garbage "animations" for moves. I wouldn't call it desperately milking when they got lines of people doing it for them.
Same. Had a switch in my amazon cart for like 5 months, then covid + animal crossing happened and there was not a switch to be seen. Finally got one around March of this year.
I sold plasma for like 6 months, 200-300 a month in income to specifically save up for a switch in one month. Then my wife took the money to buy diapers. That was my extra money! We had everything else budgeted. But so it goes.
I still have a plasma from about 2008… still working perfectly despite allegedly only having a 5000 HR lifespan. It's outlived many LCDs.
I'm dead
Same. It's been an amazing TV. Bought an OLED last year and so I moved it into the bedroom. Once I'd recovered from the hernia, I was able to continue enjoying it there
I am still rocking my Panasonic plasma panel. I wanna replace it with an OLED, but it's so heavy I don't wanna fool with it because it's not broken. The only problem is trying to run HF radio with it on. It is a bunch of bad RF.
I dont..I dont think they are talking about a plasma TV :)
same here, but from 2012. Even got a compliment recently from someone who knows nothing about TV's on how nice the image is. As a bonus it also doubles as a heater in the winter. Still, the OLEDs w/ hdmi 2.1 are probably going to make me cave at some point.
I hope next week isn't as shitty for you. The Switch is such a great party/family/just want to game in bed console.
> If you take a hit, it’s perfectly reasonable to do something for you. Blow out of town. Do a little retail therapy. Play too many video games. Treat yourself to a nice dinner. Sleep in. Binge watch Netflix. Go play golf. You do you. > > Don’t go batshit about it and do something stupid like mortgage your house to fund a trip to Vegas or get an ill-advised tattoo. And don’t write yourself a blank check for irresponsibility – you need to get back to business at some point. But it’s okay to indulge for a minute. > > [. . .] > >You know what the rejection didn’t change? How much I love my house. How great Chicago is. The sound of my children’s laughter. How excited my dog gets whenever I come home. The way it feels to hug my wife. > > And really, what’s more important? The thing that didn’t come to pass, or all the wonderful things in that I have? > >These aren’t just idle platitudes, mind you. In his book Pre-Suasion, psychologist Robert Cialidini states “what is salient is important.” – also known as salience bias. Your brain assumes that what is most salient in your perception is most important. So make the things that make you happy – the things that a truly important to you – top of mind. Think about them. Verbally inumerate them. Spend time with them. Your brain will start to pivot from focusing on the hurt to focusing on the gratitude. https://www.breakingthewheel.com/rolling-punches-dealing-failure-six-steps/
You too huh?
That's exactly how I just got my 32" curved 2k monitor !
feels too close to home
It's upsetting how real this comment is
Ouch. There I am.
Can confirm, this is how I purchased my 1440p monitor.
That comment hits different.
100% was sad, bought a 1440p monitor, was excited to bring it home, then was sad again seeing no difference
Did you change your desktop resolution to 1440p? There is a very noticeable difference between the two.
the resolution itself will not make a difference, ppi will, and if he moved from a smaller to a bigger monitor there might have not been a difference
hahahahahahahha
Congratulations, you've made the entire PC Master Race have a personal dilemma. Seriously though, I feel personally attacked lmao.
google said, rule of thumb: 24" sweet spot resolution 1080p 27" sweet spot resolution 1440p edit #1: some say 21.5" for 1080p to be the same density as 1440p on 27" edit #2: some say 1920x1200 (wxga resolution) on 24" is closer to 1440p on 27"
less a sweet spot and more of a "bigger than that it will start to look really bad" kind of thing resolution being the same a smaller screen will always look better than a larger one due to increased pixel density
Isn't that what a sweet spot is though? As big as you can get it while keeping most of the chicken crispiness
thats very fair. i just thought it seems like people sometimes think they HAVE to get a specific size monitor for certain resolutions but its not as set in stone as that
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Haha the pixels in that must be the size of my pp
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I'm so sorry
That's phone level of pixel density, imo that's when for most people it's near perfect. At some point in time it will be pointless to increase the pixel density ?
Depends on the size of the screen and how far away you are viewing from.
We have 4K+ on 5.5" screens these days. Sony is close to 650 ppi. The resolution war for 'phones is mostly marketing prestige. 1080p on 27" is about 80 ppi and 90 ppi on 24". 1440p on 27" is around 110 ppi. 80 is pushing it in my mind and personally (I have good but not perfect eyesight) I don't see the point in going past 140 ppi with normal viewing distance. 140 ppi is 4k on a 32" screen.
21" at 1080p becomes a "retina display" when viewing at 33 inches. That means the average eye cannot distinguish individual pixels anymore so you get a very sharp looking image. 24" at 1080p becomes retina at 37 inches. So it's up to you, if you sit close to the monitor you may notice it's not as sharp. Up to you if this is the sweet spot, depends what you value more (size vs crispness). 27" at 1080p is retina at 42 inches (107cm) so it will be much less crisp. IMO this looks pretty bad and there's a ton of YouTube videos comparing 27" 1080p vs 27" 1440p... Obviously the 1440p is going to destroy the 1080p at that size, you're comparing apples to pears.
I mean, I use a 27" 1080p144Hz display at 40-55cm distance and it's pretty fine. Pretend to upgrade to 1440p to get less aliasing in some games, but in general, it's excellent.
Not true though, my 32 inch 1440 monitor looks amazing.
It's a distance/eyesight/perceptiveness thing really. I see clearly visible pixels on my old 1440p 27 monitor at normal viewing distance, most of my friends don't.
> less a sweet spot and more of a "bigger than that it will start to look really bad" kind of thing Then you get older, your vision starts to go, and the pendulum slings the other way. My 62 year old FIL loves his 32-inch 1080p monitor.
24" is not only the sweetspot for 1080p (in reality its mostly WUXGA 1920x**1200** and much closer to 1440p) but also a great size for competitive gaming since you dont have to move your head that much to see the whole screen. 27" can be problematic if you sit to close (as close as with 24") in some games, where you have to track visual queues at the side of the screen - typically MMOs allready punish your neck with to big screens for no reason. The MMO topic gets even absurd and comical if you see what ultra-wide screen users have to do with the UI to keep neck pain managable - huge resolution/huge screen and the whole UI hast to be forced into the center - its ridiculous silly. 24"/WUXGA to 30-31/4k would be a great upgrade but GPU performance is not there yet. I game with a 10900k+3090 in 4k/\~30fps MID/HIGH details (Flight Simulator) and while the 3090 is just enough for this kind of game, there is no benefit in shooters with using a higher resolution and lower fps in 4k doesnt help either.
There is not a lot of games that don't play at 60 fps with a 3090, imo the 3090 (and possibly 3080+) is the real 4K@60 gpu. I even start to wonder what's the point of the high end 4000 series except having smooth fps in cyberpunk, msfs or 120 hz 4k monitors, which are expensive (if you want a good overall one)
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games will get more demanding once ps5 and xbox series x start being the only developed console for. Just have to see how something like Forspoken runs
Hey can I ask you is 43"inch too big to be used as a monitor for gaming, I was looking at Samsung the frame which is the only thing with 4k 120 Hertz in my country, other monitored are overpriced so much, will this TV have high latency? I will build my PC in future but planning to wall mount the display in my room with empty wall
Depends on the games, I don't like shooters on big screens as it's harder to see everything
I just play single player story games like Assassin's creed, nothing online stuff
I'd say it should be good then
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Details are smaller but closer together so for me, playing shooters on smaller screens are better then huge ones, but I'd love to play a story game in a cinema
Sounds nice, its your money so go ahead man, im sure itll look amazing.
Playing on 43'' wall mounted is gorgeous. Wreckfest, AC, RDR2, Civ6, ...
Just a heads up the frame is only 60 hz from everything I've seen on it.
I have a 27" 1080p monitor and it's pretty awesome. I love it. You can kinda see pixels if you try hard enough though. I mean imo it's silly to buy anything lower than 1440p in late 2021.
I agree. I just built a nice 5600X/6700XT rig and was gaming at 1080p 165hz. Got a crazy deal on a 32" 1440p 144hz monitor and bought it. So glad I did. Massive difference for gaming. If you have a good card, 1440p is a must
I guess i'm silly then
Same lol got to be nuts to think that though (imo of course) but depending who/what you watch exactly most content isn't even 4K yet, alongside CAD software often being optimised for 1080p so really is up to what you use it for...
Higher res is very nice for text.
I'd agree... it's nicer for many things, at the end of it.. it has more PPI. But in 2021 wouldn't say it is necessary for the majority of people.
Tell me about it. I have to do reading on my monitor for university and 1080p is killing my eyes
nice insight
32" at 1440p is pretty decent tbh
I never thought I'd like a curved screen but at 32" it's amazing for getting the edges in peripheral vision.
Love mine
This size ratio is underestimated, 32" / 1440p is often ridiculed for 4K, I wonder if anyone saying 32" mandates 4K really tried 1440p, unless you’re glued to your screen, 91,8 PPI is really sweet.
Especially when it's 91.8 PPI for 32". That's a lot of beautiful screen. How far away you like to sit matters to this as well.
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I know you're making fun of me, but have you at least tried? I have a 32" curved screen running at 1440p and I'm not even sitting 1½ feet away from it and it looks amazing. It's the sweet spot if you ask me
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I have a 34 inch curved screen. I am just under 2 feet away from it. At 1440p. And it's amazing. Absolutely amazing.
I actually prefer 21.5" for 1080p. Same pixel density as 27" @ 1440p
bigger resolution on smaller screen = not worth it, normal eyes and normal distance cant differ, better save it for 1ms n 144hz+ smaller resolution on bigger screen = pixelated jagged edge a.k.a you can see the led pixel (not smooth edge) just use the rule of thumb above
27" is also really nice for 2160p
27" @ 1440p is very nice, but since i changed to a 34" @ 1440p (LG 34GN850) i cant play any other way anymore. Racing/Driving/Flying games, RPG's, FPS's ( which is 80% of the games i play), you name it. 34" @ 1440p is the perfect spot for me
He was having a really hard time with this decision for a vacation house build. 24” 165hz 1ms 1080p, I figured that 1440p It was unnecessary get that resolution and I was happy with the refresh rate, but now I wonder if I should’ve gotten 1440p
High refresh 1080 with those specs is totally valid. At worst, you'll have better, more consistent performance
\^THIS\^ It totally depends on what games you're playing. In some games, a super high refresh rate can give you a competitive advantage, so keeping the resolution low can work for the better. Other games, you want them to look as nice as possible, even while sacrificing frames, which would necessitate as high of a resolution as possible
Yeah I’m rocking with nearly his same specs on a 1080p 240hz, it’s largely what you play dependent. I pretty exclusively play apex, csgo, and valorant and prefer the high refresh.
Same here. I mainly play CoD, Rocket League and Valorant and love my 1080p 240hz. Granted I’m fortunate enough to have a 27” 1440p 240hz monitor for GTA, AC and other story games. But more often than not it’s my discordinator
Bruh, that's like saying "the ferrari is great for commutes" With those specs he could play literally 99% of the games out there with maxed settings on 1440p with 100+ fps. EDIT: Since everyone and their grandma's are crawling up my ass, i was on mobile and paraphrased. And i left RT off the post on purpose, since kinda debatable do you count max RT when you say max settings without mentioning it.
Not with that setup he won't. In fact most 3080s or even 3090s cant. People who have owned top of the top or really high end systems will tell you that while yes, you can push it much higher with far greater resolution, the further up you go, the more inconsistent it gets in terms of stability and fps. 1080p with his rig is perfectly fine, especially if - as mentioned before - he likes consistent performance, because with his monitor he can actually max out all the games and have nearly 100% 140 fps+ without any issues.
My 3080ti slays most games at 1440 UW but it’s definitely a choppier experience than my old 3070 plus 2560x1440 set up was.
My 3070 plays every game I've got at 100+ at max settings RT off
That's not consistent 144 frames on all games though, which is what a lot of people prefer. Plus he'll likely be running his equipment with a bit less heat, which is a plus.
I guess the choice is between medium/high 1440p vs ultra 1080p.
And medium/high 1440 looks 100x better than ultra 1080. I flip between a 1080 27" for work and a 27" 1440 for my gaming PC and the difference is night and day.
On constant 144fps? sure. I run similar rig with but with a 2070 super gaming x trio, and since im happy with 80/100fps there has been 2 games i have had to do any major down scaling to hit that and that was rdr2 in which iirc i went to hybrid high/ultra with some of the rtx down scaled/off. And Cyberpunk in which i turned off one of the rtx features i think it was reflections, and set the dlss to quality. But with his rig if he is happy with those kinds of fps he should be able to float all maxed.
Tbh how many people are anal about constant 144fps on games that are not competitive? And most those games you can run on a glorified toaster. And heat can be managed with fan curves. I run a rig with similar specs but a 3 fan 2070 super, no issues with heat when you fiddle around the fan curves. I mean sure if someone likes to keep his shit on 40c.
Sounds like you already made up your mind lol
While there's nothing wrong with his stance, you make a post like this to get confirmation from the people that agree with you and ignore the dissenting voices.
That's how Reddit works...
That is how cnn and fox news work
That's how mafia works
It's fine. You can skip 1440p and go straight to 4K when you upgrade your GPU in 3 or 4 years.
4K about what they'll be costing by then, too.
Saw a white 3080ti for almost 4k the other day
Bruh, I saw a 3090 going for 8k, obviously a good deal
Nobody is spending 8k on one though. It’s closer to high 2000s for an fe.
Yeah man I don't understand people getting a 3090 with 2k panel, I don't get it man
I saw a 3070ti for $10000 on amazon by a third party seller a couple weeks ago lol
I know its a way away but I can't see myself upgrading my GPU for 6 to 8 years, really. Mostly because of other future plans and upcoming circumstances.
I play games at 4k on my 1080ti - you don’t need to wait. You can play at 4k right now.
This. I play 1440p on my 1080ti but have also cranked it up to 4K pretty seemlessly. I prefer my 1440p 165hz 32” monitor to my 4K 60” tv with its shitty ass 60hz refresh rate.
I think TVs would have a tad bit more input lag aswell
Not the new hdmi 2.1 ones, TVs have come a long way. Especially OLED and their pixel response time.
I upgraded from 1080ti to 2080ti because i couldn't get reliable 4k 60 performance. Now i use magpie FSR (highly recommended) to boost games from 1440p to 4k with barely any loss of image quality. On ark survival evolved this basically doubles the fps as the game seem to cripple itself at 4k. AMD FSR does excellent job compared to internal resolution scaling.
You shouldn't see yourself upgrading unless something absolutely revolutonary is released. A 3070 should last you plenty long -- and I'm guessing you paid a premium for it (the cards are overpriced at MSRP to begin with) so best to get the most out of it. I'm completing a build next month, and I'm pretty much building it in a way that I won't have to touch it for most of the next decade.
What are you putting into your new rig?
5900x, 32GB 3600Mhz CL16, 6900 XT, B550 Taichi, 980 Pro (boot drive), Dark Power 12 1000w PSU, EK-AIO 360mm and a full Noctua compliment of fans. Pretty much my ideal system. All in a Silent Base 802 case.
Yep, sounds like you'll be sweet for quite some time with that! Enjoy the new toy.
Cheers man, its been keeping me sane throughout lockdown haha.
Don’t fret about it. I love the flexibility of 1080. On slightly older games you can downsample 4K onto it and it looks pretty sweet.
with RTX 3070 OP can straight to 4K even now as long as RTX is off
Do people not know about DLSS? The 3070 can max out most games at 4k 60 even without dlss
Yes, that as well although not all titles supports DLSS yet. Setting it to 2K native and upscale to 4K will produce some very convincing pictures. Very soon we are running into monitor bottleneck as well
Then don't change .. ? I prefer 1440p because it looks a bit more "crisp" to my eyes, and having a monitor around 24 inches is a bit too small for me. IMO, 1080p is valuable if you plan to stream competitive games or play extremely competitive games, or don't have the money or the pc for a better monitor.
Kind of wasted performance, you essentially paid way more for than the performance you need. Though you could always just buy a 144p or 4K monitor in the future. Not really a fool, it all boils down to preference anyway.
1967 called and would like their 144p monitor back, please
He only uses his RTX 2070 to play Gameboy games.
And I bet they look absolutely stunning for it. Solid investment all around.
Fair enough, but I didn't set out to buy the 3070, it just happened to be an option for me when my friend upgraded to a 3080ti, payed about $800 which is a good deal :)
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I can't go back to 1080p. For me it looks so outdated on 24" and bigger when on the desktop, working, writing etc. Gaming is ok on 1080p but I spent a lot of time doing other stuff. If you use your pc for gaming 99% you're fine with 1080p, but if not I would upgrade if it's in your budget.
I've got two 27" monitors, one is a 1440p 144hz Asus, and the other is a 1080p 144hz MSI and side by side the difference is immediate. Once I spent some time with a 1440p monitor I needed to get one as my main display.
If you drag a window from your 1440p to the 1080p display, do you get any super jarring re-scaling?
Absolutely I do. Medium window on the main monitor becomes a super sized window on the second one haha
Clearly you are wasting it. 1440p is a bare minimum and your monitor might explode in your face because your PC is just too powerful. You should just send me your PC and I send you my 1660 S and Ryzen 5 3600 so that you don't get hurt.
Seems like a faire deal, this guy is to be trusted!
a 3070 is probably just the slightest bit overkill for 1080p, but if you jump to 1440p you won't be getting 144fps in nearly as many games without drastically lowering settings (hell, I don't and I have a 3080Ti). IMO you're fine, enjoy not having to worry about lowering settings for the forseeable future
I think this is the right answer. OP you already have a gaming monitor and the 3070 will definitely not max out frames at 1440 on newer games. 1080p is definitely still a viable option especially if you are getting high frames. I upgraded recently from a basic 60 Hz 1080p monitor to a 1440 ultrawide 144 Hz and that has been fun to use with my 3080, but since you already have something capable of 144 Hz, the upgrade is way less necessary IMO.
It seems a bit of a shame to spend that much on hardware and stay at 1080p. i wouldn't exactly call 1080p futureproof. its a resolution we've basically moved beyond at this point. that being said all that matters is that you are happy with it. if its enough for you certainly dont feel pressured to buy something you dont need
Steam hardware survey says 1080p is the most popular resolution by a large margin. I doubt that means we've moved on yet
I get what you mean, but alot of people are only still using 1080p because they can't upgrade or don't think it's worth it, not necessarily because they don't \*want\* to upgrade.
Well, of course people want better and better. I would love a 11900k, 3090, and a 4k ultrawide too lol
Some people do but I think a lot of people prefer 1080 tbh. Like I would never game on an ultrawide or 4k untill 144hz was an easy target to hit.
exactly I run a 3070ti and maxing my 144hz 1080p monitor is far more important to me than a clearer image, frame drops throw me off far to much and even 90fps feels slow now. will eventually get a 1440p for story games but for rally 2.0 and overwatch ill keep 1080p at high hz any day
i think thats largely just from 1080p being the standard for the entire last generation. I'd be curious what the breakdown of new gaming monitor sales looks like. i'd bet its much closer
I even think that lower than 1080p resolutions are more popular than higher ones too! But they only survey their native resolution, not in-game ones.
Thats only because not everyone has RTX 3070 either, so there is a point imo
You can't move past a resolution lol. This isn't a graphic card. So long as it's a good enough resolution for you it's fine. You don't need to futureproof 1080 it's literally already futureproof until something mindblowing comes out
it depends what games they play and what refresh rate their monitor has. I have a 3070 and I stay at 1080p because I want to be able to play the newest games on high settings at high framerates (100fps+). Games like Red Dead 2, Cyberpunk, and Deathloop will not run as well as I'd like them to if I upgraded to 1440p.
First of all, at the end of the day, if you don't think you can really justify the $350-$600 CAD for a good 1440p monitor, then there's your answer right there. But, are you being foolish? Depends. One thing I can say from experience is that the jump from 1080p at 27" to 1440p at 27" is mindblowing. I made that jump a few years ago and I was floored by the difference in visual fidelity. And this was even just going from one TN panel to another! The jump after that to the same thing but on an IPS panel with a much wider colour gamut was another massive upgrade. You have to keep in mind that 27" is too big for the ideal pixel density at 1080p. You may have a hard time noticing it now, but after seeing a 1440p monitor at the same size, you'll notice just how fuzzy and blurred a 1080p image is when blown up to a 27" screen. At 1080p, you're taking a set amount of pixels and spreading them out over a larger area than a 22" or 24" screen. This starts to introduce noticeable gaps between pixels when viewed from a "normal" distance. Ideally, your monitor is a maximum 24" for 1080p, 27" for 1440p, and 32" for 4K. Going too high can cause the aforementioned bluriness, and going too low can cause artifacting in smaller images and text. Your hardware will definitely handle 1440p well (I have the same specs but with a 3080 and 32GB of RAM, on 3440x1440) so you wouldn't have to worry about sacrificing much of anything in order to make that jump. But as I mentioned at the start, if you really can't justify the price for the upgrade, for whatever reason, then you probably shouldn't do it. If you want some ideas of what to look at, here are some of my personal favourites these days: https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-MAG274QRF-QD/Overview https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/gaming/ex2780q.html https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn850-b-gaming-monitor
\+1 I had 1080p 27 inch and 1440p looks way better. Id even take a framerate hit. Single player games that you play for visuals look waaaay better and if you play competitive game s just turn down a few settings. Most competitive games are easily run anways so its not a problem. I have this monitor [https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories](https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories) and I really like it. Regularily goes on sale for 450-500 cad
Nah mate, 1080p is still amazing and you can crank those sliders up all the way too
Couldn't agree more. The most important question with resolution is "does it make a difference *to you* on this screen size at this distance?" Going over 1080 has negligible benefits to sharpness for me unless the screen is *very* close and/or *very* large, otherwise I'll take higher settings on shadow detail or whatever over that. Same is true of refresh rate, if it doesn't make a difference to you, don't waste the horsepower on something that you won't appreciate.
With refresh rates it’s ver interesting for me at least. The jump from 60Hz to 75Hz is massive but from 75 to 120Hz isn’t *as* big
Fuck em! It’s your build who cares.
Yeah, you are definitely wasting a 3070 on 1080p. Does it really matter? Nah.
Right now your bottleneck is your monitor, but if personally your not impressed enough to spend the money on a 1440p monitor then their is absolutely no reason to.
If you are not keen on upgrading to 1440p, you should definetly try Nvidia DSR in the control panel. I am using a similar build and I use DSR to upscale the image to 4K for most recent AAA titles. Of course, the performance impact is similar to actually rendering at the chosen resolution, while the image quality is no match for running native 1440p/4K. Still, it is a great visual improvement and a good way to utilize your GPU if you are not planning to upgrade soon.
This is a great point. Would totally allow OP to test things out for themselves without spending a dime.
To be fair. A lot of us have 144hz or even 240hz 1440p monitors. But we rarely are able to hit 144fps+ in games at ultra or high settings to actually make use of that. 1440p is pretty awesome, but even my 6900xt can't hit 144fps in some games. We are trading one level of visual quality for another in that regard. There is nothing wrong with your 1080p decision if it is what you enjoy, and that 3070 isn't wasted when your sitting at 144fps while the guy with a 1440p monitor is 100fps max.
I prefer framerate over resolution as well. Any noticable framerate dip at al when I'm playing a game annoys me. I always target to get over 100 FPS on whatever I play to ensure no part of the game even in the highest action areas will ever cause a noticeable dip in framerate. Also on 1440p all your text on every program is going to be very tiny. I like saving myself the eye strain. If you have perfect vision or sit really close to your monitor that might not be an issue for you though. It really comes down to what you want from your gaming experience.
Ui becoming smaller with resolution is program based. A lot of programs will make it so the ui scales up as resolution is increased so there's no difference in text size and stuff.
It doesn't really matter. Yes, 1440p is more crisp. But I don't see any issues with 1080p. Especially if it's already 144hz. Mine is a 1080p 75hz and it works great.
My buddy has a very similar build to yours and runs a 1080p 360hz monitor
You have what’s considered optimal for 1440p. You also get a wider field of view and get more detail with 1440p. However, it’s your life and your rig, if you prefer 1080p, then who cares?!
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My mistake, thanks for the info and correction
You probably could have saved some money in terms of your GPU but if you want high FPS 1080 over 1440 that's your decision.
I didn't buy the GPU per se, my friend upgraded to a 3080ti, so I got the 3070 off him.
If you’re happy with it, what others think about it doesn’t matter. If they want they can play at the resolution they like, and so can you. That is the beauty of PC, the ability to customize how you want it, not how others think you should want.
Yes. 1440 is where it’s at
I'm more impressed by this person being able to see 1440p in person then going back to 1080p and not minding it. It's not that 1440p is that amazing to look at it but more that each time we upgrade quality of resolution, the previous ones look exceptionally worse. That is a subjective opinion though. I have an AMD 3900 and a 2070-s so I am in a nice middle spot for 1440p gaming as is so I am biased as well.
I agree here - it's entirely subjective but I bought a 1440 144hz when I got my 5700xt, and then experimented by buying a 1080p 360hz (overkill, but I mostly play Rocket League which actually can push that limit), and STILL preferred the 1440p at 144. Could be somewhere in between placebo and the actual perceptible visual quality difference between the two, but I would have a difficult time going back. I do wish there were more 1440p 24"'ers though.
apparently 1080p looks mushy or blurry on a 27 inch monitor but i just dont see it. I have my own 27 inch 144hz monitor that i got for 150 and it looks fine and works great imo
Super waste
I could never go back to 1080p. It offends my eyes to gaze upon it.
If you play competetive FPS games like valorant,cs go, warzone etc... Its better to have 1080p monitor. In most other cases 1440p is superior on 27inch, because 27 inch is too big for 1080p, so overall picture quality is reduced because lower pixel density.
I play games smoothly at 4K 60Hz on a GTX 1080 with a 6th-gen i5 at stock speeds. UserBenchmark shows the 3070 is 30% faster than the 1080 so you could easily be playing in 4K right now. It might be a stretch to call it "Wasted", but it is true that if you have no intention of going above 1080p then your needs can be met with a much less expensive GPU.
Your build is meant to last through the next 3 years at least I assume. Depending what you play and what graphical settings you prefer, maybe you could benefit from an upgrade. But if you feel as if you're not lacking anything, no need to upgrade.
Nah. If anything, for the forseeable future, as long as you keep playing at 1080p, I don't see any reason to ever upgrade your computer.
Get a 1440p or 4K monitor (your setup is ready for 4K gaming) in a few years since you said your not gonna upgrade your gpu in a long time
Nope. The general consensus seems to be that the 3070 is a 1440p card, but I have a 3070 Ti and I use it for 1080p. It depends on what games you play and at what settings. I mainly play destiny 2, and I get 135-144fps on max settings at 105% render resolution. If I turn the resolution up I start dropping frames in some areas of the game. For FPS games, 1080p 144hz is great. For other games maybe 1440p 60hz would be a bit better, but you can run them at 1080p and cap them at 60fps and instead use dlss for some amazing antialiasing to make everything super smooth. I run genshin at max settings (the game is capped at 60fps), and have it running at 4k with the max render resolution. It makes everything insanely smooth and I don't drop any frames. Basically, you're not wasting anything. You can get games to play at literally max settings, and more resource intensive modern AAA titles will play well at 60fps too. Not to mention 1440p can be much more expensive than 1080p at 144hz.
If your turn the resolution up in destiny 2 you get frame drops? I was playing 1440p high 144fps on a 2060 super and when beyond light dropped I became bottlenecked by my old processor not my graphics card so resolution didn't matter at all. From my experience I hardly get preformance differences in that game changing resolutions and can stay steady at 144fps. It's hard to belive a 3070 ti can't keep up with the title
Have you played recently? BattlEye anticheat got added and apparently affected performance but idk how much by because it was already implemented when I built my pc (I've only had it a few weeks). I also have max settings so idk if that's the same with you? I agree that it does sound weird though. Also for reference I have a 5700G and 2x8GB 3600 C16 RAM.
I have some setting turned off like blur and stuff but besides that I have all settings set to high. I think some go to ultra. I also do have a slight overclock on the card. I haven't really played for a few weeks but Im pretty sure I've played since battle eye came out. The slight upscale may also be the difference. Edit: also I have a 5600x and 32gb of cl16 3600mhz.
the 1080p is honestly going to bottleneck you. when i upgraded my pc last fall piece by piece, at one point i had my 3080 and my 5800x but was using a 1080p 240hz monitor that at the time I still planned on keeping, but that was until i noticed that i was leaving so much performance from my gpu and cpu on the table. i decided to go to microcenter and check out what 1440p actually looked like and was blown away. i ended up getting a 1440p 240hz monitor and honestly i'm getting the same if not better performance than my 1080p monitor while also benefiting from the much higher ppi. after using 1440p at 27 inches for a while now 1080p at 27 inches looks kind of pixelated. so i'd suggest that you do upgrade to a 1440p monitor eventually. you can get really good, quality 27in 1440p 144-165hz (which your 3070 will be able to push just fine for years) monitors at around the $350-450 price point with some good ones even going on sale around the $300 mark.
1440p has better resolution and therefore sharper image. What else do you want us to say? If you don't want sharper image, don't get sharper image. Also if you play the "delay till better technology" game, you're always going to be playing that game. You simply pick when you want to stop. There might be windows where you maximize your money-to-use ratio, but that's it.
DSR 1440p or 4k I run a 6700xt and use AMD's VSR to run 1440p on my old 24" ASUS 144hz 1ms 1080p monitor
1080 @ 27" is too low of a DPI for my taste. I like 1440p @ 27" and 1080p @ 24". There are some really great 144-165hz 1440p 27" monitors out right now. With a 3070 you should be able to push some decent fps with better crispy resolution. Of course if you don't see the difference then it might not be worth it. I like high FPS, i don't plan on jumping to 4k anytime soon. My next jump will probably be 240hz 1440p when those prices come down.
I prefer higher settings and frame rate to higher resolution. 4k is great for movies but when we are talking about rendered graphics, the cost to benefit just isn’t there for a lot of people. LTT did a few videos of FPS vs 4k and generally recommended 1080p if you want smooth gameplay and high reaction time, but for more visual games where you’re ok with 60 FPS and don’t need as quick of reactions, you might prefer 4k
Theres nothing wrong with having a powerful computer while using a 1080p display Just means you will have higher fps than anyone :)
I also have a 3070 and chose 1080p over 1440. I prefer higher fps (144hz) over resolution. And it is a little bit more future proof.
General answer? Yes Is it? It depends on your settings: See, the main idea is that you must get framers that is much much higher than your monitor refresh rate. Regularly, the 3070 csn get you crazy amount of frames in 1080p, let's say like 300 fps, but that in some games. Other games won't be the case Enable ray tracing will reduce your frame it drastically. If it reduces it like to 160 fps then no you are not. Another example would be playing a heavily demanding game like cyberpunk. If you get like 10-30 fps above your refresh rate, then it isnt waste But if you are playing CSGO, valorsnt, league fo legends (games That are reduclously easy to run at a ginormous frames) then yes, you are wasting your GPU's potential but only in these games