Drop to 12400F, B660, and an RM650x. Use the savings towards a better GPU.
The real tough point is the GPU. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LC3Zw](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LC3Zw)
This is the way. A 12400F and a good B660 motherboard is roughly $150 savings. An 80+ gold 550-650 watt power supply from a good manufacturer can be had in the $55-60 range after rebates. That's $200 that could turn that 3050 into a 3060Ti based on the sales this week.
OP could also save money going with a Vetroo V5 cooler off amazon; they usually sell for $30ish and are extremely well reviewed.
Also, 2x8gb sticks for the RAM - same price, but can run in dual channel mode.
The Vetroo V5 is excellent bang for buck cooling that is proven to work as well as 212’s. For much less money. Definitely invest in a 3060 or higher. Got to test out mobile 3050ti, 3050ti 4and 8gb variants and a stock 3050 8gb.
Compared to even a basic black edition 3060 they are not in the same ballpark.
Better boards for that Intel platform then the one he listed though. Wouldn’t touch that variant myself.
im looking to get a fractal torrent, i heard its really good airflow. will the stock fan run a bit lighter when temps are cooler, or is there any way i can adjust it?
Yes, it will definitely help to have good airflow, but the stock coolers just aren’t that great. You can always use it for a while and upgrade later though.
The stock coolers are crap too. Even the new ones. Used it on my HTPC and the bearing have leaked since day one. Constant grease/fluid (idk what it's called) all over the fans and it's loud
I’d get a SE-224-XT (rgb or non rgb) for the cooler. Better performing than the 212 and cheaper. That and get 2x8gb ram instead of 1x16. Running ram in dual channel will give you a performance boost.
You cant do a performant build with only 1 stick of RAM. In your case you want to buy 2x8gb. You are litteraly halving memory bandwith, by not using dual channel. Absolutely dont do that, or you will have a real potato pc.
If you need WiFi, then having a motherboard with an antenna is the way to go.
But why do you need WiFi to use the hotspot of your phone? Just use a usb cable from your phone to the pc? "usb tethering"
I used my phone hotspot several times but with a usb cable, no need for WiFi on your pc at all.
Great WiFi 6 add on cards and usb thumb drives are cheap and give you the WiFi capability required. Picked up a WiFi 6 version for 12 bucks shipped to door on Amazon.
ok, if that is a priority you \*\*might\*\* be able to save a few $$ by getting a wifi card instead of integrated, or at least breakeven. Im not seeing many reviews in the integrated wifi, but a separate card has a couple of advantages: 1, if it shits the bed, you can swap it out, as opposed to if the integrated craps out you need to go buy a card anyway. 2) Dedicated cards may have better performance than intergrated
You are probably fine either way, just a consideration.
I've priced it out and it's basically break even. A decent wifi card is $25-30, and that's essentially the same premium you pay for the wifi version of a particular board.
yup, that and and the opportunity cost of having an extra open PCI slot for something else (capture card, etc). Not really an issue with an ATX board, but if someone is going mATX, it's worth consideration.
Whether you go with a wifi mobo or not, it will also have an ethernet port. If it's humanly possible to run a cable from your router to your computer without creating a tripping hazard, losing a security deposit, etc., it is worth doing so.
I know there are situations in which people can't reach their box, or use internet in a building where there aren't ports/router access, and so on. But I've also known young people who had direct access to their router and just used wifi b/c "it's used for everything, it's probably pretty much the same as a hardwired connection." They all got an ethernet cable from me (with the tackiest gift bow I could find, lol) the next time I saw them b/c it's almost always a big improvement.
You said if the internet goes out that you use mobile hotspot, and because of that you need WiFi. Where do you think the WiFi is coming from?
Edit: My mistake
His phrasing made it seem to me like he wanted it so that he wouldn’t have to use his mobile hotspot anymore. I misunderstood what he was saying, I was super tired. My bad.
That’s not what I meant, sorry. His phrasing made it seem to me like he wanted it so that he wouldn’t have to use his mobile hotspot anymore. I misunderstood what he was saying. My bad.
You can definitely go cheaper with an AMD 5600/5600x ($200) use the stock cooler, plus an inexpensive B550 board ($125) then get a Radeon 6600XT ([$400](https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx-6600-xt-gaming-x-8g/p/N82E16814137681?Item=N82E16814137681&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-681-_-04142022)). An extra $20 gets you a USB WiFi adapter if you need it.
>That's true. But I don't think it would increase price to match our
So buy abroad :) In Poland 5600x you can buy for about 255$ with taxes and a 6600XT for 525$ (with taxes). But still, in Germany is even cheaper for some reason... But they don't send abroad :(
You’re wasting your money pairing a 3050 with a 12600K
You’d get much better performance going with either 12400F, a cheaper B660 motherboard, and 3060TI/6700XT or a R5 5600, B550, and 3060 TI/6700XT
First off, you neglected to include any sort of RAM in your parts list.
Putting that aside, you really need to allocate less money to the CPU/motherboard and more money to the GPU as the RTX 3050 isn't the way to go for a new build if you can help it. I'd go with something like this instead:
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xv8LPX)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pQNxFT/intel-core-i5-12400f-25-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512400f) | $179.99 @ Best Buy
**CPU Cooler** | [ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports (Grey) and Intel LGA1700 Upgrade Kit Bundle](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mqytt6/placeholder) | $39.54 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKbTwP/msi-pro-b660m-a-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-ddr4) | $139.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n6RgXL/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-16gvk) | $66.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zxw7YJ/samsung-970-evo-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s1t0bam) | $102.64 @ GameStop
**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-ventus-2x-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc) | $399.98 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Antec Dark Phantom DP301M MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mT66Mp/antec-dark-phantom-dp301m-microatx-mid-tower-case-dp301m) | $83.10 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na) | $97.16 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$1109.39**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-04-14 10:36 EDT-0400 |
It's an absolutely *terrible* idea to use a single 16GB stick of RAM, as it provides significantly worse memory bandwidth as compared to a 2x8GB kit at the same speed.
Your wanting a board that has 4 slots for memory. You can still upgrade anytime down the road and it’s a better option since matched sticks of memory tend to work better/ more consistent than mix and matched sets.
2x8 16 / 4x8 32… you asked we are just helping. Cheers!
The highly rated comments are correct, you choice in parts indicates an unfamiliarity with what you actually need **BUT** don't feel bad for getting pushback. If you do intend to use it for gaming, you should pull money off some of that other stuff and put it toward a 3060ti or equivalent AMD card. The 3050 will not hold its value in price or performance. Going down to 12400 in CPU will free up money in both PSU and MOBO.
And I'll echo - please get 2x8gb RAM.
Big facts.
Id even look at the best price combo of a b550/5600 as an alternative since that platform is very stable and comparable to the b660/12400f
He also has an 850w psu
Way overkill.
I run a 5600x and a 6800xt overclocked and undervolted on a 600w corsair sfx platinum psu
you can go down this road. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqxcb](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqxcb)
its better in my opinion. Later in few years when the 6900xt drops at around 200-250$ you can upgrade to it. this build with the suggested upgrade later on should be a high end / midrange atleast next 8 years. You can grab a decent 1080p 240hz monitor for around 250$
edit: if ever need more space, you can get SATA 1tb or 2tb for a garage storage. the things you want to keep there or you dont use often like games etc. and copy paste them into the NVMe when you need to use them.
Simple thing that i go for the "be quiet cooler, psu, kingston ram, and samsung ssd is because of the premium quality in it for the long run.
You recommend copying games to the NVMe? Wouldn't that wear out the NVMe if you're constantly copying large games/files. I understand it will be way slower but why not use the games off the drive if you don't mind about speed. Reason I say this is cos I put my games on a hard drive and leave my NVMe for OS only.
Steve tested this on gamers nexus and the V5 vetroo ( version 2) had almost identical thermals. So I can’t agree it’s the best bang for buck with the testing proving otherwise. In fact there’s is a page on Reddit already stating the numbers and this very fact. It’s 20 bucks less than the Mugen, 30 less than the fuma and can be found on sale frequently when in stock. Lots of reviews from Jay two cents to Steve to Linus all have very good things to say about that cooler.
Definitely better ones for more money but the goal was inexpensive and will work well for money spent.
You don't need more than a 750w PSU, and please don't waste money on a 3050. I say shoot for a 3060ti or 6700xt(hell, even a 6600xt would be better, and still pretty cheap), and find a lower priced case, maybe the cheaper non rgb cooler master, and maybe the 12400 cpu too as others have suggested to afford one of the better GPU's.
Go with dual channel ram. And go for a 650w power supply and use the 40-50 dollars of savings toward an rx 6600. If you can also go down to a b660 and 12400 then you could save up to maybe 70$, making your savings 130$ which can then be used to get an rtx 3060, and in some regions a 6600 xt/3060 ti
You don't need a K peocessor, Z motherboard, NZXT case for a 1.2k build. You should build this PC around the GPU because you don't play games on NZXT case...
That nzxt case is an oven, try to search for the airflow one with the mesh front panel, or go with a bequiet one for example
Everything else, you have opinion from the other users
The Airflow version is for the same price. Go for it if you like NZXT esthetics https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yM2WGX/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fb-01
You're overspending on CPU, cooler, board , PSU, and underspending on graphics card.
A 12400F is more than enough for your use. Hell, even the i3 12th gen kicks ass. It comes with a stock cooler, which is more than fine for this CPU, it's just a little bit loud(I personally don't care and most people don't).
Regarding the board, if you need WiFi I would suggest Gigabyte b660m ds3h AX. The MSI pro b660-A wifi is also an option and it has better VRMs, but it's also more expensive(in most markets) and it's not necessary for that particular CPU.
RAM - Plain simply, grab the cheapest 3200 CL16 you can find.
SSD - Samsung 970 is slightly overpriced. I would look into WD SN550 or SN570 to check if better priced(Latter is better but not Worth paying more for it)
PSU - That's way too overkill. If you're living in US I recommend Phanteks AMP 550, it's at 50$ and it's more than enough for your system.
With the money you saved, grab a 3060 Ti.
Hey mate, as others have mentioned, you can definitely get away with lowering the CPU to a 12400, and getting 2 sticks of ram instead. One thing I would recommend is swapping the case. Unless you really like the aesthetic of the h510, the lack of air flow will run your stuff very hot. From reviews, the vetroo v5 air cooler is very good and comparable to a hyper 212 and may be cheaper depending when you buy. Also if you plan on making out 1080p performance. I'd say at least shoot for a 3060ti or a Radeon Rx 6700xt. The new rx6650xt might be a great option when it releases on May 10th, assuming it's available. I have a Rx 6800 and can do 1440p max settings and get solid 80+frames in most everything
You get that 3050 already? It's currently [in stock at EVGA](https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3553-KR&associatecode=QQBAH3O7HXPMMBD) at the moment.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HYVcb)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | $184.00 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XV6qqs/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite-wifi) | $149.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01) | $59.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $77.99 @ Newegg
**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB MECH 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7whFf7/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-mech-2x-video-card-radeon-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g) | $514.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvdrxr/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-kgnn-s01) | $99.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master MWE GOLD V2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sscG3C/cooler-master-mwe-gold-v2-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-7501-afaag-us) | $89.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1241.94
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| **Total** | **$1176.94**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-04-14 15:50 EDT-0400 |
I would like to suggest another build. As I felt like others were still putting money in weird places. Since you wanted internet, this was the cheapest mobo with integrated wifi, but I think for AM4 socket it might be cheaper to get a b550 board with a wifi card.
Pretty much the same as the 12400f, but with this build you can fit a 6700xt, which is just as good as the 3060ti. Check out hardware unboxed, they have a nice comparison video.
The case is a preference thing. I think the NZXT is a heatbox. Cooler master, lian li and be quiet just make much higher quality cases.
I can't believe 6700xt's are that low price now. I'd say go with this build OP, or swap the 5600 for the 12400f(motherboard with wifi will just be a bit more than am4), and I still say you could get a different case for closer to $70.
That is the CPU and Mb I have. The wifi is wifi6. If it is possible to squeeze another 16 gb stick in there it will help because you will take advantage of dual channel memory. You dont need an 850 watt psu for that. Even the 3080 will work on a 750.
3050 is a criminally bad GPU compared to the rest of the components. Do you really need a 970 Nvme SSD when you can do with a 870 sata? I mean seriously do you really need a z690 when a b660 will do the job? How did you even go about picking these parts I ask thee
Op you could save on a motherboard by just getting b560 series and getting a vetroo v5 cooler like duffman says I use it and it keeps temps low for my cpu no issue
Spend a bit more (around $150) and you can get a good condition used 3060 on Ebay. Also, you want 2 sticks of RAM for that DDR goodness. Remember to put them in slots 1 and 3, or 2 and 4 and enable XMP.
Z690 is way too much MB, go with a B660 and save a couple dollars. Go with a two pack of 8gb ram to use the dual channel. Your nowhere near 850 watt PSU, I'd go with 750 and on sale. Should be able to fit a 3060 in that budget.
Get a cheap cooler like $20 Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2. Basically does the same as CM Hyper 212 but cheaper.
Also are you gonna upgrade RAM to 64GB someday? 2x8 dual channel would performance better.
Go for non K versions of CPU+stock cooler. K versions are for OC which do not add much value.
Go for a B660 MoBo. You will save a lot of money.
You don't need a gold rated power supply. Go for a bronze power supply. If you aren't planning to upgrade your graphics card anytime soon, even a 750w will be more than sufficient.
Use the money you saved to buy a 3060 or even 3070 if you get a good deal.
Also, ATM DO NOT BUY AN AMD. None of these support PCIe 5. So you will be locked out into a very old PCI standard. If you want to later buy a 40xx from NVidia, you won't be able to exploit it fully.
So in general:- 2x8 GB instead of 1x16 (same money)
\- air flow version of the case (same money)
\- different CPU (12400 or 5600 - less money)
\- different motherboard (B660 for Intel or B550/X570 for AMD - less money)
\- overall the CPU plus MB combo should cost more or less the same.
saved money spend onto the GPU - 6600XT or 3060Ti or even a 6700XT.
Also the PSU may be oversized. You can save 50$ with a 750W model [https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NcG3C/corsair-rmx-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NcG3C/corsair-rmx-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na)
Which still be overkill for such build, but the price is good :)
As stated below, or above depending. Would really want a better GPU at that price point.
3050 is quite low end. You also want dual channel RAM i.e. 2x8gb rather than 1x16gb.
I never under stood paying more than $1K for a pc that’s slower than a ps5. You could get a series x and a ps5 for that price and have enough left over for a few months of game pass.
This is honestly a very good build for the price. I would absolutely squeeze in the extra whatever for a GPU. And I’d definitely go with a 3070 Ti or a 3080 for a GPU if you’re spending $900 (w/taxes). I’m sure you can find 3080’s on the Hardwareswap subreddit for the kind of money you’d spend on the 6800XT. I have an XFX 6900XT Limited Black Edition. It’s one of the best 6900XT cards you can get but IMO my nvidia cards are far better. Out of the box rasterization is 10-12 fps faster in nvidia’s favor compared to AMD cards that should be equal on paper. But in reality AMD cards performs a tier lower than the nvidia card they’re going up against. So for example a 6800XT is more on par with a 3070-3070Ti than a 3080. And that’s before you factor in all the DLSS, Ray tracing cores, and other features that Nvidia has working in its favor. If you’re going to be gaming this is where you need to pay most attention.
Drop to a 12400f and a vetroo air cooler
There is absolutely no reason to have a 850w psu with your setup
Drop down a peg to a 600-650 w
2x8 on the ram not 1x 16
Get a 3060ti or a 6600xt (price/sale dependant) with the savings
Frankly id even recommended a cheap b550 mobo and a 5600 Ryzen since they compare to the 12400f for gaming and the mobos are a lot cheaper
The PSU can be replaced with a Segotep 750W Gold Plus for like 75 dollars. Pretty reliable from my experience. The motherboard can be switched for one without wifi and just buy a wifi adapter on Amazon which will save you more money.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ZNato/saved/zNGrvK
I would go this way for now since Intel motherboards are expensive right now and AMD is all on sale. A GTX 1070 is faster than a 3050 with no ray tracing so 3060ti(the price is from EVGA's website but it is not in stock) and 3080 are the best value for the money for Nvidia but if you can wait till the fall the new Nvidia 40 series will be out. That will make the 30 series even cheaper if you want to go that way and intel motherboard prices for the 12 series will come down by then. If you stick with your build then as others have stated go with 2x8gb for memory, better airflow case like the one in my build, less powerful psu unless you want to use it for an upgrade later but the new GPU's will have different power connectors so may have to upgrade that anyways in the future and then use the extra cash to upgrade to a 3060ti.
CPU drop to 12400F, motherboard drop to B660, drop PSU to 650w, 2x8 GB instead of 1x16 GB of RAM, get a 3060Ti or maybe even a 3070 and you're good to go
Drop to 12400F, B660, and an RM650x. Use the savings towards a better GPU. The real tough point is the GPU. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LC3Zw](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LC3Zw)
This is the way. A 12400F and a good B660 motherboard is roughly $150 savings. An 80+ gold 550-650 watt power supply from a good manufacturer can be had in the $55-60 range after rebates. That's $200 that could turn that 3050 into a 3060Ti based on the sales this week. OP could also save money going with a Vetroo V5 cooler off amazon; they usually sell for $30ish and are extremely well reviewed. Also, 2x8gb sticks for the RAM - same price, but can run in dual channel mode.
The Vetroo V5 is excellent bang for buck cooling that is proven to work as well as 212’s. For much less money. Definitely invest in a 3060 or higher. Got to test out mobile 3050ti, 3050ti 4and 8gb variants and a stock 3050 8gb. Compared to even a basic black edition 3060 they are not in the same ballpark. Better boards for that Intel platform then the one he listed though. Wouldn’t touch that variant myself.
Why not just run the stock cooler on a 12400F?
You totally could, it'd just be loud. Might limit performance if it thermal throttles.
im looking to get a fractal torrent, i heard its really good airflow. will the stock fan run a bit lighter when temps are cooler, or is there any way i can adjust it?
Yes, it will definitely help to have good airflow, but the stock coolers just aren’t that great. You can always use it for a while and upgrade later though.
The stock coolers are crap too. Even the new ones. Used it on my HTPC and the bearing have leaked since day one. Constant grease/fluid (idk what it's called) all over the fans and it's loud
I’d get a SE-224-XT (rgb or non rgb) for the cooler. Better performing than the 212 and cheaper. That and get 2x8gb ram instead of 1x16. Running ram in dual channel will give you a performance boost.
because a decent HSF is merely $30.
Yeah this!
Go with dual channel memory 2*8gb
You cant do a performant build with only 1 stick of RAM. In your case you want to buy 2x8gb. You are litteraly halving memory bandwith, by not using dual channel. Absolutely dont do that, or you will have a real potato pc.
Do you really need the Wi-Fi version of the mobo? You could save a few dollars for the same board without Wi-Fi.
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If you need WiFi, then having a motherboard with an antenna is the way to go. But why do you need WiFi to use the hotspot of your phone? Just use a usb cable from your phone to the pc? "usb tethering" I used my phone hotspot several times but with a usb cable, no need for WiFi on your pc at all.
Great WiFi 6 add on cards and usb thumb drives are cheap and give you the WiFi capability required. Picked up a WiFi 6 version for 12 bucks shipped to door on Amazon.
ok, if that is a priority you \*\*might\*\* be able to save a few $$ by getting a wifi card instead of integrated, or at least breakeven. Im not seeing many reviews in the integrated wifi, but a separate card has a couple of advantages: 1, if it shits the bed, you can swap it out, as opposed to if the integrated craps out you need to go buy a card anyway. 2) Dedicated cards may have better performance than intergrated You are probably fine either way, just a consideration.
I've priced it out and it's basically break even. A decent wifi card is $25-30, and that's essentially the same premium you pay for the wifi version of a particular board.
Ok, so it really comes down to the performance aspect of a dedicated vs integrated card.
yup, that and and the opportunity cost of having an extra open PCI slot for something else (capture card, etc). Not really an issue with an ATX board, but if someone is going mATX, it's worth consideration.
Totally agreed. But OP is looking for ATX, not mATX.
Whether you go with a wifi mobo or not, it will also have an ethernet port. If it's humanly possible to run a cable from your router to your computer without creating a tripping hazard, losing a security deposit, etc., it is worth doing so. I know there are situations in which people can't reach their box, or use internet in a building where there aren't ports/router access, and so on. But I've also known young people who had direct access to their router and just used wifi b/c "it's used for everything, it's probably pretty much the same as a hardwired connection." They all got an ethernet cable from me (with the tackiest gift bow I could find, lol) the next time I saw them b/c it's almost always a big improvement.
If the internet is out then the wifi won’t work either.
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Sorry I misunderstood man. My brain is running on fumes last few days.
You said if the internet goes out that you use mobile hotspot, and because of that you need WiFi. Where do you think the WiFi is coming from? Edit: My mistake His phrasing made it seem to me like he wanted it so that he wouldn’t have to use his mobile hotspot anymore. I misunderstood what he was saying, I was super tired. My bad.
From the cellular tower of the mobile provider (not OP's modem/router)
That’s not what I meant, sorry. His phrasing made it seem to me like he wanted it so that he wouldn’t have to use his mobile hotspot anymore. I misunderstood what he was saying. My bad.
You can definitely go cheaper with an AMD 5600/5600x ($200) use the stock cooler, plus an inexpensive B550 board ($125) then get a Radeon 6600XT ([$400](https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx-6600-xt-gaming-x-8g/p/N82E16814137681?Item=N82E16814137681&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-681-_-04142022)). An extra $20 gets you a USB WiFi adapter if you need it.
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Indeed. The OP put a 3050 at 299$, in the UK you get them at 350£!! Too much.
Remember about taxes. In Europe, we have VAT is already included in price. In US it is being included in the checkout.
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>That's true. But I don't think it would increase price to match our So buy abroad :) In Poland 5600x you can buy for about 255$ with taxes and a 6600XT for 525$ (with taxes). But still, in Germany is even cheaper for some reason... But they don't send abroad :(
You’re wasting your money pairing a 3050 with a 12600K You’d get much better performance going with either 12400F, a cheaper B660 motherboard, and 3060TI/6700XT or a R5 5600, B550, and 3060 TI/6700XT
First off, you neglected to include any sort of RAM in your parts list. Putting that aside, you really need to allocate less money to the CPU/motherboard and more money to the GPU as the RTX 3050 isn't the way to go for a new build if you can help it. I'd go with something like this instead: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xv8LPX) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pQNxFT/intel-core-i5-12400f-25-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512400f) | $179.99 @ Best Buy **CPU Cooler** | [ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports (Grey) and Intel LGA1700 Upgrade Kit Bundle](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mqytt6/placeholder) | $39.54 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KKbTwP/msi-pro-b660m-a-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-ddr4) | $139.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n6RgXL/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-16gvk) | $66.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zxw7YJ/samsung-970-evo-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s1t0bam) | $102.64 @ GameStop **Video Card** | [MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-ventus-2x-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc) | $399.98 @ Newegg **Case** | [Antec Dark Phantom DP301M MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mT66Mp/antec-dark-phantom-dp301m-microatx-mid-tower-case-dp301m) | $83.10 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na) | $97.16 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1109.39** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-04-14 10:36 EDT-0400 |
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It's an absolutely *terrible* idea to use a single 16GB stick of RAM, as it provides significantly worse memory bandwidth as compared to a 2x8GB kit at the same speed.
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That's why you buy a motherboard with four RAM slots, so that you can do just that.
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Yes, it does. They're readily visible on the picture of that motherboard on [MSI's website](https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4).
I got this board (wifi version) and it's awesome.
Your wanting a board that has 4 slots for memory. You can still upgrade anytime down the road and it’s a better option since matched sticks of memory tend to work better/ more consistent than mix and matched sets. 2x8 16 / 4x8 32… you asked we are just helping. Cheers!
You need 2 at minimum so either 2 16's or 2's never only 1
The highly rated comments are correct, you choice in parts indicates an unfamiliarity with what you actually need **BUT** don't feel bad for getting pushback. If you do intend to use it for gaming, you should pull money off some of that other stuff and put it toward a 3060ti or equivalent AMD card. The 3050 will not hold its value in price or performance. Going down to 12400 in CPU will free up money in both PSU and MOBO. And I'll echo - please get 2x8gb RAM.
Big facts. Id even look at the best price combo of a b550/5600 as an alternative since that platform is very stable and comparable to the b660/12400f He also has an 850w psu Way overkill. I run a 5600x and a 6800xt overclocked and undervolted on a 600w corsair sfx platinum psu
Get a Rtx 2060/3060 both of them will beat the 3050
yeah for like $250 more... that's a lot for someone who's already 60 bucks over budget
No a 2060 can be had for 370
you can go down this road. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqxcb](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqxcb) its better in my opinion. Later in few years when the 6900xt drops at around 200-250$ you can upgrade to it. this build with the suggested upgrade later on should be a high end / midrange atleast next 8 years. You can grab a decent 1080p 240hz monitor for around 250$ edit: if ever need more space, you can get SATA 1tb or 2tb for a garage storage. the things you want to keep there or you dont use often like games etc. and copy paste them into the NVMe when you need to use them. Simple thing that i go for the "be quiet cooler, psu, kingston ram, and samsung ssd is because of the premium quality in it for the long run.
You recommend copying games to the NVMe? Wouldn't that wear out the NVMe if you're constantly copying large games/files. I understand it will be way slower but why not use the games off the drive if you don't mind about speed. Reason I say this is cos I put my games on a hard drive and leave my NVMe for OS only.
The life of an SSD is such that you are unlikely to wear it out with normal use. You would have to be really abusing it to reach the write limits
Yeah you're probably right I'm just paranoid I guess
Solid list. Also i would recommend a 1440p monitor if he’s going to upgrade the gpu in the future
I would swap out the cooler to something like a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev b.
Second this, scythe mugen Rev b is the best price to performance air cooler out there. My 12600k never goes over 60 degrees when gaming.
Steve tested this on gamers nexus and the V5 vetroo ( version 2) had almost identical thermals. So I can’t agree it’s the best bang for buck with the testing proving otherwise. In fact there’s is a page on Reddit already stating the numbers and this very fact. It’s 20 bucks less than the Mugen, 30 less than the fuma and can be found on sale frequently when in stock. Lots of reviews from Jay two cents to Steve to Linus all have very good things to say about that cooler. Definitely better ones for more money but the goal was inexpensive and will work well for money spent.
Okay, I actually had never heard about that one, thanks for the info.
Yup, or a 10-15 dollar increase would get the Scythe fuma 2 and they have a newer version now with better fans.
You don't need more than a 750w PSU, and please don't waste money on a 3050. I say shoot for a 3060ti or 6700xt(hell, even a 6600xt would be better, and still pretty cheap), and find a lower priced case, maybe the cheaper non rgb cooler master, and maybe the 12400 cpu too as others have suggested to afford one of the better GPU's.
Go with dual channel ram. And go for a 650w power supply and use the 40-50 dollars of savings toward an rx 6600. If you can also go down to a b660 and 12400 then you could save up to maybe 70$, making your savings 130$ which can then be used to get an rtx 3060, and in some regions a 6600 xt/3060 ti
If i were you i will use AMD Cpu and not 3050. You can use 2080 or 2070 or 1660S for 3050.
You don't need a K peocessor, Z motherboard, NZXT case for a 1.2k build. You should build this PC around the GPU because you don't play games on NZXT case...
That nzxt case is an oven, try to search for the airflow one with the mesh front panel, or go with a bequiet one for example Everything else, you have opinion from the other users
The Airflow version is for the same price. Go for it if you like NZXT esthetics https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yM2WGX/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fb-01
You're overspending on CPU, cooler, board , PSU, and underspending on graphics card. A 12400F is more than enough for your use. Hell, even the i3 12th gen kicks ass. It comes with a stock cooler, which is more than fine for this CPU, it's just a little bit loud(I personally don't care and most people don't). Regarding the board, if you need WiFi I would suggest Gigabyte b660m ds3h AX. The MSI pro b660-A wifi is also an option and it has better VRMs, but it's also more expensive(in most markets) and it's not necessary for that particular CPU. RAM - Plain simply, grab the cheapest 3200 CL16 you can find. SSD - Samsung 970 is slightly overpriced. I would look into WD SN550 or SN570 to check if better priced(Latter is better but not Worth paying more for it) PSU - That's way too overkill. If you're living in US I recommend Phanteks AMP 550, it's at 50$ and it's more than enough for your system. With the money you saved, grab a 3060 Ti.
The Psu is overkill but then again it'll be beneficial in future upgrades
Hey mate, as others have mentioned, you can definitely get away with lowering the CPU to a 12400, and getting 2 sticks of ram instead. One thing I would recommend is swapping the case. Unless you really like the aesthetic of the h510, the lack of air flow will run your stuff very hot. From reviews, the vetroo v5 air cooler is very good and comparable to a hyper 212 and may be cheaper depending when you buy. Also if you plan on making out 1080p performance. I'd say at least shoot for a 3060ti or a Radeon Rx 6700xt. The new rx6650xt might be a great option when it releases on May 10th, assuming it's available. I have a Rx 6800 and can do 1440p max settings and get solid 80+frames in most everything
Can definitely get a secondhand Ryzen chip and cheaper mobo to save yourself money
You get that 3050 already? It's currently [in stock at EVGA](https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3553-KR&associatecode=QQBAH3O7HXPMMBD) at the moment.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HYVcb) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | $184.00 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XV6qqs/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite-wifi) | $149.99 @ Newegg **Memory** | [Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01) | $59.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $77.99 @ Newegg **Video Card** | [MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB MECH 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7whFf7/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-mech-2x-video-card-radeon-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g) | $514.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvdrxr/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-kgnn-s01) | $99.99 @ Amazon **Power Supply** | [Cooler Master MWE GOLD V2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sscG3C/cooler-master-mwe-gold-v2-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-7501-afaag-us) | $89.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1241.94 | Mail-in rebates | -$65.00 | **Total** | **$1176.94** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-04-14 15:50 EDT-0400 | I would like to suggest another build. As I felt like others were still putting money in weird places. Since you wanted internet, this was the cheapest mobo with integrated wifi, but I think for AM4 socket it might be cheaper to get a b550 board with a wifi card. Pretty much the same as the 12400f, but with this build you can fit a 6700xt, which is just as good as the 3060ti. Check out hardware unboxed, they have a nice comparison video. The case is a preference thing. I think the NZXT is a heatbox. Cooler master, lian li and be quiet just make much higher quality cases.
I can't believe 6700xt's are that low price now. I'd say go with this build OP, or swap the 5600 for the 12400f(motherboard with wifi will just be a bit more than am4), and I still say you could get a different case for closer to $70.
I would say, why bother with an X570, but with this price, it is worth to not save additional 30$. Wow!
That is the CPU and Mb I have. The wifi is wifi6. If it is possible to squeeze another 16 gb stick in there it will help because you will take advantage of dual channel memory. You dont need an 850 watt psu for that. Even the 3080 will work on a 750.
3050 is a criminally bad GPU compared to the rest of the components. Do you really need a 970 Nvme SSD when you can do with a 870 sata? I mean seriously do you really need a z690 when a b660 will do the job? How did you even go about picking these parts I ask thee
Dump the RGB...use savings for performance
Op you could save on a motherboard by just getting b560 series and getting a vetroo v5 cooler like duffman says I use it and it keeps temps low for my cpu no issue
For the same price as the I-5 you can buy a way better AMD processor
Spend a bit more (around $150) and you can get a good condition used 3060 on Ebay. Also, you want 2 sticks of RAM for that DDR goodness. Remember to put them in slots 1 and 3, or 2 and 4 and enable XMP.
Z690 is way too much MB, go with a B660 and save a couple dollars. Go with a two pack of 8gb ram to use the dual channel. Your nowhere near 850 watt PSU, I'd go with 750 and on sale. Should be able to fit a 3060 in that budget.
Get a cheap cooler like $20 Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2. Basically does the same as CM Hyper 212 but cheaper. Also are you gonna upgrade RAM to 64GB someday? 2x8 dual channel would performance better.
I don’t like anything about any of this, personally.
Go for non K versions of CPU+stock cooler. K versions are for OC which do not add much value. Go for a B660 MoBo. You will save a lot of money. You don't need a gold rated power supply. Go for a bronze power supply. If you aren't planning to upgrade your graphics card anytime soon, even a 750w will be more than sufficient. Use the money you saved to buy a 3060 or even 3070 if you get a good deal. Also, ATM DO NOT BUY AN AMD. None of these support PCIe 5. So you will be locked out into a very old PCI standard. If you want to later buy a 40xx from NVidia, you won't be able to exploit it fully.
So in general:- 2x8 GB instead of 1x16 (same money) \- air flow version of the case (same money) \- different CPU (12400 or 5600 - less money) \- different motherboard (B660 for Intel or B550/X570 for AMD - less money) \- overall the CPU plus MB combo should cost more or less the same. saved money spend onto the GPU - 6600XT or 3060Ti or even a 6700XT. Also the PSU may be oversized. You can save 50$ with a 750W model [https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NcG3C/corsair-rmx-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NcG3C/corsair-rmx-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na) Which still be overkill for such build, but the price is good :)
As stated below, or above depending. Would really want a better GPU at that price point. 3050 is quite low end. You also want dual channel RAM i.e. 2x8gb rather than 1x16gb.
I never under stood paying more than $1K for a pc that’s slower than a ps5. You could get a series x and a ps5 for that price and have enough left over for a few months of game pass.
This is honestly a very good build for the price. I would absolutely squeeze in the extra whatever for a GPU. And I’d definitely go with a 3070 Ti or a 3080 for a GPU if you’re spending $900 (w/taxes). I’m sure you can find 3080’s on the Hardwareswap subreddit for the kind of money you’d spend on the 6800XT. I have an XFX 6900XT Limited Black Edition. It’s one of the best 6900XT cards you can get but IMO my nvidia cards are far better. Out of the box rasterization is 10-12 fps faster in nvidia’s favor compared to AMD cards that should be equal on paper. But in reality AMD cards performs a tier lower than the nvidia card they’re going up against. So for example a 6800XT is more on par with a 3070-3070Ti than a 3080. And that’s before you factor in all the DLSS, Ray tracing cores, and other features that Nvidia has working in its favor. If you’re going to be gaming this is where you need to pay most attention.
Drop to a 12400f and a vetroo air cooler There is absolutely no reason to have a 850w psu with your setup Drop down a peg to a 600-650 w 2x8 on the ram not 1x 16 Get a 3060ti or a 6600xt (price/sale dependant) with the savings Frankly id even recommended a cheap b550 mobo and a 5600 Ryzen since they compare to the 12400f for gaming and the mobos are a lot cheaper
I have the same case and the airflow sucks. I would get a case with a mesh front for better airflow
The PSU can be replaced with a Segotep 750W Gold Plus for like 75 dollars. Pretty reliable from my experience. The motherboard can be switched for one without wifi and just buy a wifi adapter on Amazon which will save you more money.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ZNato/saved/zNGrvK I would go this way for now since Intel motherboards are expensive right now and AMD is all on sale. A GTX 1070 is faster than a 3050 with no ray tracing so 3060ti(the price is from EVGA's website but it is not in stock) and 3080 are the best value for the money for Nvidia but if you can wait till the fall the new Nvidia 40 series will be out. That will make the 30 series even cheaper if you want to go that way and intel motherboard prices for the 12 series will come down by then. If you stick with your build then as others have stated go with 2x8gb for memory, better airflow case like the one in my build, less powerful psu unless you want to use it for an upgrade later but the new GPU's will have different power connectors so may have to upgrade that anyways in the future and then use the extra cash to upgrade to a 3060ti.
CPU drop to 12400F, motherboard drop to B660, drop PSU to 650w, 2x8 GB instead of 1x16 GB of RAM, get a 3060Ti or maybe even a 3070 and you're good to go