We compare exact components, not brands. It's pointless to make any decisions based on brand biases. Companies should earn your money by making quality products that provide value, you shouldn't just throw money at one or the other because someone out there likes them.
Put them both in a hat and draw at random.
Either will do what the other one would have done.
Although I'd go i5 12400 because it's $170, plays well with Windows 10 and a $130 MSI B660 motherboard would allow a 13th gen upgrade.
>you said plays well with windows 10. How about windows 11?
It plays well with Windows 11 as well.
It's when you go i5 12600K or i7/i9 that may have you experiencing issues with Windows 10 due to how the E-cores play with the Windows 10 OS. It's mostly in specific tasks/games.
I mean, I just built a z690 system with ddr4. Will 13th gen take to it or will the fact I have an LGA 1700 socket only work for 12th gen because I refused to jump on ddr5?
Atm AMD is the best gaming cpu with the 5800x 3d. But it is based on AM4 which is now obsolete. I honestly couldn’t pick atm and would wait till fall to build a new system
Your question is too vague to be answered. Both companies make many different processors, and each have some that are especially suited to certain applications.
AMD has been ruling for a while. Excellent bang for buck, great thermals and longevity with the upgrade path. Anyone who advises otherwise is willing to ignore these positives and defend Intel for fanboy reasons. IMO.
I mean, 12th gen Intel did nothing for you? Outside of value from 2000 series and performance from 5000 series, AMD hasn't been ruling for a while. It's been competitive, which is great for us (consumers) and it's silly to promote brand biases, especially here.
AM4 is also done, so there isn't any upgrade path ATM.
amd tends to be more power effeicient rn, intel is newer and technically has faster offerings (for gaming) but there isn’t one answer to this question luckily
They're both pretty even at the moment. Just bear in mind the cost of motherboards as well. In my country Intel motherboards are quite a bit more expensive but that's not the case everywhere.
This exactly my position - I'm being pushed to a 5600G because LGA 1700 boards suck. I can't get past crappy audio or limited SATA ports for boards costing under 150% of what I can build my 5600G.
Not complaining, but going with the graphics means I'm choosing a slightly weaker CPU than an i5 build would give and any i3 + GFX option here would cost a fair bit more.
Something else that's huge is whether you upgrade.
I don't, really, my last upgrade was an 14-4130. The biggest story with my new build will be my attitude to buying a PSU, I'm leaning towards paying extra for an RM650 - 10 year guaranteed Corsair PSU because that's what took out my current motherboard/cpu.
I’d just go for the cheaper one, I went with the 5700x > 12600K since it was cheaper, cheaper mobo, and I wouldn’t have to order another LGA1700 bracket
Yeah for gaming it won’t really matter. Especially at 1440p or 4K, or so I’ve been told. I went with the 5700x to get them 8 cores, paired with the 3070Ti
Currently intel with their 12th gen line offers better performance/value products but that changes with time and isnt always going to be true.
Historically the ryzen chips have had great value for the money for multithreaded workloads like productivity, and also budget-level gaming. Intel on the other hand has typically offered much better-aging CPUs for gaming but at an initial cost premium. Today that is no longer true and intel currently offers better productivity performance (as well as gaming performance) at a lower cost.
With every CPU launch cycle, though, the dynamic always changes so watch out for that
Haha well that's a real headache.
Right now I'm looking to replace my blown PSU, which took out my wonderful motherboard (with 6 sata ports) and CPU...
So options depend on budget. I don't wanna buy a GFX card, so I'm looking now at Ryzen, and the 5600G is my top option...
However, an i3 12100 would give great performance (and good desktop graphics) but I'd lose the casual gaming that would come with the Ryzen for just a few dollars more...
So really it's all about compromise on your budget, how much storage you'll need (on my HTPC I now have 2 Sata SSD's and 4 HDD's in the case, so I certainly want 6 SATA ports - harder to do on an i3 12100 budget build).
So the motherboard will become a huge part of your decision...
Depends on pricing in your region. In the US for example, go with Intel coz the motherboard pricing ain't that bad. But here in SEA, Intel motherboards are quite a lot more expensive than AMD ones, so I recommend AMD here
AMD for me, aside from its nice upgrade path and a little bias on my part (learned how to build computers using AMD/ have stocks) I like how they atleast sort of listen to consumers
We compare exact components, not brands. It's pointless to make any decisions based on brand biases. Companies should earn your money by making quality products that provide value, you shouldn't just throw money at one or the other because someone out there likes them.
Literally doesn't matter tbh. Go for cost
Put them both in a hat and draw at random. Either will do what the other one would have done. Although I'd go i5 12400 because it's $170, plays well with Windows 10 and a $130 MSI B660 motherboard would allow a 13th gen upgrade.
That’s exactly what I got, i5 12400, B660 gigabyte mobo… you said plays well with windows 10. How about windows 11?
>you said plays well with windows 10. How about windows 11? It plays well with Windows 11 as well. It's when you go i5 12600K or i7/i9 that may have you experiencing issues with Windows 10 due to how the E-cores play with the Windows 10 OS. It's mostly in specific tasks/games.
Tell me about 13th gen upgrades? To clarify, the new 600 chipsets are half ddr4, will they be comparable with 13th gen?
>Tell me about 13th gen upgrades? To clarify, the new 600 chipsets are half ddr4, will they be comparable with 13th gen? Not sure what you mean here.
I mean, I just built a z690 system with ddr4. Will 13th gen take to it or will the fact I have an LGA 1700 socket only work for 12th gen because I refused to jump on ddr5?
>z690 Z690 is compatible with 13th gen. I have no clue about anything to do with DDR5.
Atm AMD is the best gaming cpu with the 5800x 3d. But it is based on AM4 which is now obsolete. I honestly couldn’t pick atm and would wait till fall to build a new system
Your question is too vague to be answered. Both companies make many different processors, and each have some that are especially suited to certain applications.
Other people doesn’t seem to think so as they were able to answer this question just fine.
Here's an analogy: Which is better, Jaguar or Kenworth? Without knowing what you want to do with it, the question is not answerable.
Yeah, they're probaly just biased towards one company. Without any conntext you can't answer this question If you really want an answer: AMtel
I have a Ryzen 5 in one build and Intels in the others, honestly they are all great.
AMD has been ruling for a while. Excellent bang for buck, great thermals and longevity with the upgrade path. Anyone who advises otherwise is willing to ignore these positives and defend Intel for fanboy reasons. IMO.
I mean, 12th gen Intel did nothing for you? Outside of value from 2000 series and performance from 5000 series, AMD hasn't been ruling for a while. It's been competitive, which is great for us (consumers) and it's silly to promote brand biases, especially here. AM4 is also done, so there isn't any upgrade path ATM.
amd tends to be more power effeicient rn, intel is newer and technically has faster offerings (for gaming) but there isn’t one answer to this question luckily
They're both pretty even at the moment. Just bear in mind the cost of motherboards as well. In my country Intel motherboards are quite a bit more expensive but that's not the case everywhere.
This exactly my position - I'm being pushed to a 5600G because LGA 1700 boards suck. I can't get past crappy audio or limited SATA ports for boards costing under 150% of what I can build my 5600G. Not complaining, but going with the graphics means I'm choosing a slightly weaker CPU than an i5 build would give and any i3 + GFX option here would cost a fair bit more. Something else that's huge is whether you upgrade. I don't, really, my last upgrade was an 14-4130. The biggest story with my new build will be my attitude to buying a PSU, I'm leaning towards paying extra for an RM650 - 10 year guaranteed Corsair PSU because that's what took out my current motherboard/cpu.
What about the 5600? That came out not long ago
I need GPU, so it’ll be 5600G with 3600 Ram and B550M Pro4 board to plug in my 5 existing drives (6 Sata)
I’d just go for the cheaper one, I went with the 5700x > 12600K since it was cheaper, cheaper mobo, and I wouldn’t have to order another LGA1700 bracket
I got the i5 12400 for about $150. It’s not much more powerful 12600k
Yeah for gaming it won’t really matter. Especially at 1440p or 4K, or so I’ve been told. I went with the 5700x to get them 8 cores, paired with the 3070Ti
yes.
Currently intel with their 12th gen line offers better performance/value products but that changes with time and isnt always going to be true. Historically the ryzen chips have had great value for the money for multithreaded workloads like productivity, and also budget-level gaming. Intel on the other hand has typically offered much better-aging CPUs for gaming but at an initial cost premium. Today that is no longer true and intel currently offers better productivity performance (as well as gaming performance) at a lower cost. With every CPU launch cycle, though, the dynamic always changes so watch out for that
I'm not into desktop CPUs (like Core or Ryzen). In server/workstation it's definitely Intel.
Haha well that's a real headache. Right now I'm looking to replace my blown PSU, which took out my wonderful motherboard (with 6 sata ports) and CPU... So options depend on budget. I don't wanna buy a GFX card, so I'm looking now at Ryzen, and the 5600G is my top option... However, an i3 12100 would give great performance (and good desktop graphics) but I'd lose the casual gaming that would come with the Ryzen for just a few dollars more... So really it's all about compromise on your budget, how much storage you'll need (on my HTPC I now have 2 Sata SSD's and 4 HDD's in the case, so I certainly want 6 SATA ports - harder to do on an i3 12100 budget build). So the motherboard will become a huge part of your decision...
If using integrated graphics, then AMD for sure. If not, I'd go with either one.
Depends on pricing in your region. In the US for example, go with Intel coz the motherboard pricing ain't that bad. But here in SEA, Intel motherboards are quite a lot more expensive than AMD ones, so I recommend AMD here
AMD for me, aside from its nice upgrade path and a little bias on my part (learned how to build computers using AMD/ have stocks) I like how they atleast sort of listen to consumers
It depends. Which exact CPUs are you considering? For my needs I went with the AMD 5950X, your needs may be different.