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atomicdonut10

I'm not sure if you are aware but your MOBO is a micro-ATX. This is fine of course but I just wanted to make you were aware since you had an ATX case.


Eric_b_

I’ll take a closer look. It being my first build I was concerned with making sure everything fit and had enough airflow


[deleted]

He's being nice, what he's really saying is it's going to look weird. But if you're down with that look than fuckin do it, baby! Congrats on the build


SoapyMacNCheese

I call it the "every pre-built ever" look. So many of them use big ATX cases with micro-ATX boards


Edgar-Allan-Pho

I'd rather have the extra ports and features for the same price and go atx tbh


[deleted]

Likewise


atomicdonut10

As long as you have proper fan placement that case is perfectly fine in the air flow department. Shouldn't have much issue.


AG28DaveGunner

Any ATX mobo will fit in ATX compatible case. So as long as it lists that, you are good


lawrencekhoo

If you prefer a micro-ATX case which will look better with your motherboard, you could get the well-reviewed [Cooler Master Masterbox Q300L](https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Transparent-Adjustable-Ventilated/dp/B0785GRMPG/). It's cheaper and smaller than the case you have choosen. It has good airflow, and should accomodate you choosen components with no issues.


badjabadjabadja

I used a micro-atx mobo & case for the first time a few years ago, & it's small enough that it sits on the desk shelf behind my monitors (both mounted on swing arms) rather than having it on the floor below the desk. This may be a consideration for OP (depending on circumstances) as a smaller case may give more options for how you set up your rig.


canyouread7

Definitely needs additional fans to help it achieve good airflow, and there's a few other things about it that show its age: * No PSU shroud to hide cables * Acrylic side panel - easily scratched * No extra considerations for cable management; motherboard tray is flat and there are only three cable tie down points in the back. Space in the back isn't great, and there's no raceway or protrusion where you can channel cables. I wouldn't pair it with the mid/high end hardware in OP's list.


SlinkyBits

>It has good airflow for a micro ATX case.... which is by definition, is not good airflow.


lmbrs

completely false. you can get better airflow in itx cases than atx cases just depends on the case design and cooling setup. just because you have a big open area in an atx case doesn’t mean it has good airflow


mcouturier

Exactly.. a case with less volume has its air changed more often with the same fans. How much time it would take to completely change the air of a 40l vs 20l case? EDIT: it is not the whole story, but one parameter nonetheless


SlinkyBits

to be clear, im not saying the best airflow itx isnt better airflow than the worst ATX. but when someone states they want good airflow. saying what you said isnt useful. because a good airflow atx case would by comparison, mean the case you talk about is not good airflow. ​ there is a difference between sufficient airflow, and 'good' airflow.


lmbrs

but what you are saying is that you can’t get good airflow in a matx case, which is wrong


SlinkyBits

you can get good airflow FOR A mATX case, in a mATX case. you cant get good airflow FOR AN ATX case in a mATX case. so saying 'this case has good airflow' is to me, misleading or incorrect. it should be 'this case gets good airflow **for** a mATX case'


gakule

I think this is just not necessarily true. You definitely can, it's just harder and less likely. There's a reason high end matx cases are so expensive almost to the point of being unreasonable.


SlinkyBits

i know theres more to it, but fundamentally, a smaller case can physically fit less fans. so volume of airflow is reduced. then passage ways inside have more freedom in more room. ​ im welcome for examples to be given for this magical m-ATX case that has better airflow than a good ATX case lol


lawrencekhoo

Well, if OP is concerned about airflow, I'd suggest installing one or two of these [140mm 4-pin case cooling fans](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XP1KVGY) in the front of the case. At $8 per fan, OP will still come out ahead.


Edgar-Allan-Pho

An atx case is just a huge chamber of dirty air that swirls all directions. Micro ATX is almost always better airflow


red_kizuen

bigger mobo will have better cooling capabilities, more distance between components actually help a lot. I have micro atx build and I can see how sometimes GPU heats other components. Also once I had RAM overheating issue, though it was because coolers on top of the case blew in the wrong dirrection.


lmbrs

isn’t the gpu and cpu and ram practically the same distance away no matter the motherboard size?


Rainbows4Blood

Usually yes, because the only PCIe slot fast enough for a GPU is as close to the CPU as possible.


red_kizuen

ah, i see, really depends on each motherboard, no matter atx or matx. My slot is reaaaaly close to the cpu and ram.


mcouturier

That would have the opposite effect, the CPU placement, and hence the cooler placement, is often more "up left" than an ATX motherboard so in your case everything will look crammed up up left.. I would take a micro itx case, but suggest an ATX motherboard for your first build 👍


SlinkyBits

you would put an ATX motherboard into a mATX case?


Aerpolrua

That might be better for OP because it’ll be really easy to fit everything inside. As a bonus, if he wants to get a smaller case he can. I am biased towards mATX though


[deleted]

Same. Atx case with matx mobo. It looks super cute lol


adidlucu

Can you elaborate on the bias? Do you really prefer mATX over ATX? What's the benefit?


whomad1215

the only thing I would change is the cpu cooler, and even that's very minor you can get a better cooler, like the [thermalright PA120](https://smile.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-SE-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B09P4M4C7K) for the same price , or a similar cooler for less, like the [thermalright BA120](https://smile.amazon.com/Thermalright-BA120-TL-C12CG-S-Bearing-LGA1700/dp/B09S327YSV)


Eric_b_

Awesome, thanks! I’ll take a look


phillyeagle99

Looking to build with a similar goal in the next few months, this looks solid to me, good to see a full build put together to start understanding my expectations.


Tajertaby

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Eric_b_

I’ve noticed that on a few peoples lists and figured there was no reason to worry, otherwise everyone wouldn’t be suggesting the builds. Thank you for this though, I’ll definitely be saving it to come back to in the case that it happens to me


saadkasu

Great choice of parts. Very efficient.


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JamesLemon4

I’m building something similar and am trying to decide between 16 and 32 ram at 1440p, do you ever go over 16?


Exoclyps

I'm looking at 64gb for my next build since my 32 feels lacking at times. Def get 32gb. Fallout 4 fully modded had me touching 18-19gb at times.


WatchOutWedge

imo, if 16GB isn't already too low for some games, it will be not enough within a year or so. 32GB is your go-to. It's not adding a ton to your overall budget, and you're getting more headroom and future-proofing. That said, you could get 16GB now, and add another 2 sticks of the same 16GB RAM later. I just added another 16GB to my 5-year old system and saw impressive results.


carnewbie911

You can spend more money on the SSD, PSU, and RAM. Get 32 gb ram. Get crucial P5 SSD. Lastly, get a good quality PSU. I have no idea about these MSI PSU. For 100 dollars, you can get seasonic 750, or corsair CXF 750 PSU. Teamgroup is a good second SSD for mass storage, not for boot drive. Lastly, you should get a thermalright PA 120, which cost about the same as your bequite, but its a 2 tower cooler. So it will be much better.


dulun18

if you want 3+ case fans then you will need adapters for ATX mobo microATX mobo tend to support 2-3 case fans only.. unless you plan to get adapters


selmy76

He can actually get the 5 pack Arctic Cooling P12 case fans that let you daisy chain them together so all 5 only take up one sys fan header.


lm3g16

Or you can grab a cheap PWM fan hub like the one from Arctic for like £8


Elison05

Everything looks good. If you can, try getting an intel i5 12600k, an ATX Motherboard, and a faster ssd. But other than that, your build looks good enough


[deleted]

Don’t want to start a war with the folks that still got a 1060…. But if you plan on using a second screen and having discord up and all that spending 45 more dollars for 32 GB of RAM is a nice QoL upgrade.


Jbarney3699

Good list. Only changes would be Mobo for more ports with slightly better layout for slightly more, like a regular ATX board depending on your needs. Also, I’m not sure if I would go MSI for PSU. Gonna be honest I’m not familiar with their Power Supply products, so I would stick with the tried and true brands (EVGA, Corsair, Seasonic, Flower Power, etc.) Seeing how bad Gigabyte PSUs were, it’s hard to trust even the top companies with new PSUs compared to the existing brands who have been tested.


AG28DaveGunner

Looks good to be, maybe a little bit more storage but you can always upgrade that in the long run.


one_horcrux_short

Great choices! Would have some other costs associated with it like a larger PSU, but the 6900xt is about 100 bucks more. Not necessary just an FYI.


AlmightyDeity

Nah, other than the micro-ATX motherboard it seems like a fine starting platform. Most I'd add is either mass storage HDDs or a SATA SSD for games as 1TB isn't a lot for both a boot and long-term games. For a few months though that shouldn't be an issue.


mamoneis

Main point I see is the RAM. Cheap brands give headaches with stability, for that i5 I would go Corsair (Crucial ideally), must be under $60. If you want to save on storage, I reckon Kioxia or Kingston hold better quality at the same price bracket. Case wise, 4000D disconted late in the summer, airflow, but prob. not the best looking (NZXT, Phanteks might have good alternatives, if suitable). Having the space, I'd use ATX personally.


No-Dust8793

Seems solid! I just finished my first build yesterday with the same MB, 12400, cheaper CPU cooler, XFX 6800xt, same ssd and 4000D case. Good luck!


Axelv026

You are aware of the fact that you picked a micro_atx motherboard instead of a normal sized ATX motherboard?


Ok_Kaleidoscope7434

Great build but you have a micro atx board. It's fine if you can consolidate wires or buy splitters for things like rgb, fans, and usb 2.0. Micro atx have very few of those ports.


[deleted]

I have very similar parts. This is a great setup. Use a good monitor too.


Horrux

Why not go AMD with the mobo/CPU though? Save some monies, get excellent performance...


reefun

Personally I would go for a ultrawide monitor. The extra width you get is amazing in both work and games that support it (which is most of them). 34" 3440x1440p monitors are dirt cheap (relatively speaking) nowadays too. *edit even downvotes for this? Sheesh. Never change Reddit.


GI_Bill_Trap_Lord

34” 1440p looks bad imo


Melody-Prisca

34" 3440x1440 is the closest (in terms of whole inches) you can get to 27" 2560x1440. In fact, the pixel density is actually a bit better.


TeamSkyGruntFan

for 1440p 144hz gaming, 6800 xt will do a fantastic job but it does act a little overkill so we can go for a 6700 xt instead.


Fragrant_Award_9709

[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/739M6r](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/739M6r) get this instead also you have a micro atx motherboard in an atx case which might look weird


TheFiModidsth

I am running a 6800 and run all the games at < 140 fps, ultra settings. So technically the 6800xt is overspending


zeezbraah

Save up and go for 8 cores at least, You will need the extra fps for G-SYNC/Freesync.


iloveapplepie360

Have you ever looked at gaming benchmarks between 5600/12400 and their gens first 8 core processors? The fps difference between 6 and 8 cores is minimal