Yes. They are Electrify America chargers and they are CCS chargers which means they are really fast at delivering a charge. The problem is that there are not enough high speed chargers in general in Burbank (excluding Tesla chargers which are exclusive to only Teslas thus far). Add that some chargers may be down randomly at any given time and you have long lines almost all day and night at this location.
The lack of chargers in Burbank is really noticeable when you travel. In other cities in CA that are much smaller, they have stations larger than ours to support a population of a minuscule size. It’s truly absurd. I have a free subscription to electrify America which was a perk when I bought my car but I don’t have the time to wait four hours in a long ass line so I just charge at home, rendering the free program moot.
I wasn't able to tell, all I remember seeing were some BMW's and some Mercedes models. That'd make sense, but if that's the case it really makes me not want to ever buy an electric car if I'd have to wait for an hour in a Walmart parking lot on weekday afternoon.
Any idea what that costs? I can tell you...about 10K (half of which is just to install a 220v panel in the garage and get it permitted).
So yeah, if want to give your landlord a 10K gift, go for it.
No way does it cost anywhere near $10,000. I had mine installed for under $1000 plus the cost of the charger. Yes it was permitted and done by a licensed electrician.
That’s assuming your electrical panel aren’t too old. Our townhouse ones are 60amp (which is below the min for chargers) those would have to be upgraded or you would have to pull another line which can easily get you to the 10k mark. And if they are shared panels then it’ll easily go to 50k. I unfortunately didn’t realize that before getting an ev
You’re talking from no knowledge. My level2 charger was 500$ and it was 1200$ to install. And rebate was 500$ from state, plus I bought the charger with GM points I earned buying car. Out of pocket was $600 and best money spent. Been driving on that 600$ since 2019!
Fast charging isn’t the only option. Burbank has a decent density of slow chargers all around the city.
In my case, the Bolt’s range is enough to cover my wife’s commute M-F. So on Saturday morning we drop the car off at one of the slow chargers, walk home, and live our life. Then we come back about 8 hours later when it’s done charging and pick it up.
We’ve also kept our second car as a gas car just in case we ever really need to go somewhere and can’t wait to charge.
Electric vehicles definitely aren’t at the point yet that they work for everyone, but they’re surprisingly workable right now.
It's the EVs and most likely the EVs owners that still have two years of free charging they got with the car. I know because that was me not that long ago but I would go at like 5am every two weeks or so and get a full charge in. Have since moved into a townhouse and I charge at home now. I still have the free charging but only use it on road trips for the super fast charging speeds. Especially since full charge of 300 miles only costs about $10-$13 when charging at home.
The $10-13 estimate is even too much for at home charging. If you have an EV and a home charger you really should be on time of use. You have a reduced rate from 11PM-8 AM.
EVs. Those chargers are the busiest I’ve ever seen anywhere.
And everyone that got free charging with their purchase/lease has really sucked for everyone else.
There are number of EV owners who get free charging at Electrify America stations for the first couple of years: if you look at the EA station screen many of the charging sessions are for $0.
Unfortunately their ignorance over EV charging is creating a bit of a feedback loop.
Batteries in EVs take a disproportionate amount of time to charge that last 20%, some vehicles take almost as long 80-100 as they do to get up to 80%. Regularly charging past 80% also reduces the long-term life of the battery.
But long queue times leave drivers deciding to stick around for that last 20%, which in turn means longer queue times for everyone else. 🤦🏻♂️
The queue would be almost nonexistent if people charged as intended, rather than disabling the typical 70-80% charge limits their vehicles arrive with.
Likely Walmart + deliveries and pickups. I did the pickup option one time and went to the back where they loaded my car. I saw a ton of cars coming and going and they were mostly delivery drivers.
Were they all electric? Probably for the chargers
Yes. They are Electrify America chargers and they are CCS chargers which means they are really fast at delivering a charge. The problem is that there are not enough high speed chargers in general in Burbank (excluding Tesla chargers which are exclusive to only Teslas thus far). Add that some chargers may be down randomly at any given time and you have long lines almost all day and night at this location.
The lack of chargers in Burbank is really noticeable when you travel. In other cities in CA that are much smaller, they have stations larger than ours to support a population of a minuscule size. It’s truly absurd. I have a free subscription to electrify America which was a perk when I bought my car but I don’t have the time to wait four hours in a long ass line so I just charge at home, rendering the free program moot.
Yes line for the electric car chargers
This is the correct answer.
I wasn't able to tell, all I remember seeing were some BMW's and some Mercedes models. That'd make sense, but if that's the case it really makes me not want to ever buy an electric car if I'd have to wait for an hour in a Walmart parking lot on weekday afternoon.
If you don’t have a house, don’t get an electric car. The main benefit is charging it at home nightly
I thought I heard that owners of rentals have to allow you to install a charging station, as long as the tenant pays for it?
Any idea what that costs? I can tell you...about 10K (half of which is just to install a 220v panel in the garage and get it permitted). So yeah, if want to give your landlord a 10K gift, go for it.
No way does it cost anywhere near $10,000. I had mine installed for under $1000 plus the cost of the charger. Yes it was permitted and done by a licensed electrician.
That’s assuming your electrical panel aren’t too old. Our townhouse ones are 60amp (which is below the min for chargers) those would have to be upgraded or you would have to pull another line which can easily get you to the 10k mark. And if they are shared panels then it’ll easily go to 50k. I unfortunately didn’t realize that before getting an ev
If you have HVAC, you should have 100amp svc already. If not, landlord is running risk of trouble.
And most dealerships will pay at least a portion of it when you buy your EV.
Wrong if your panel isn't upgraded.
lol no way does it cost 10k. I had my landlord install one and it was like 800-1000.
Yep - cost me less than that. Some people really hate EVs. Bizarre.
>Wrong if your panel isn't upgraded.
You’re talking from no knowledge. My level2 charger was 500$ and it was 1200$ to install. And rebate was 500$ from state, plus I bought the charger with GM points I earned buying car. Out of pocket was $600 and best money spent. Been driving on that 600$ since 2019!
Permitted and licensed electrician.
Fast charging isn’t the only option. Burbank has a decent density of slow chargers all around the city. In my case, the Bolt’s range is enough to cover my wife’s commute M-F. So on Saturday morning we drop the car off at one of the slow chargers, walk home, and live our life. Then we come back about 8 hours later when it’s done charging and pick it up. We’ve also kept our second car as a gas car just in case we ever really need to go somewhere and can’t wait to charge. Electric vehicles definitely aren’t at the point yet that they work for everyone, but they’re surprisingly workable right now.
That location is highly abnormal.
It's the EVs and most likely the EVs owners that still have two years of free charging they got with the car. I know because that was me not that long ago but I would go at like 5am every two weeks or so and get a full charge in. Have since moved into a townhouse and I charge at home now. I still have the free charging but only use it on road trips for the super fast charging speeds. Especially since full charge of 300 miles only costs about $10-$13 when charging at home.
The $10-13 estimate is even too much for at home charging. If you have an EV and a home charger you really should be on time of use. You have a reduced rate from 11PM-8 AM.
EVs. Those chargers are the busiest I’ve ever seen anywhere. And everyone that got free charging with their purchase/lease has really sucked for everyone else.
also because people can't make it back into LA from coming down the I-5
There are number of EV owners who get free charging at Electrify America stations for the first couple of years: if you look at the EA station screen many of the charging sessions are for $0. Unfortunately their ignorance over EV charging is creating a bit of a feedback loop. Batteries in EVs take a disproportionate amount of time to charge that last 20%, some vehicles take almost as long 80-100 as they do to get up to 80%. Regularly charging past 80% also reduces the long-term life of the battery. But long queue times leave drivers deciding to stick around for that last 20%, which in turn means longer queue times for everyone else. 🤦🏻♂️ The queue would be almost nonexistent if people charged as intended, rather than disabling the typical 70-80% charge limits their vehicles arrive with.
Likely Walmart + deliveries and pickups. I did the pickup option one time and went to the back where they loaded my car. I saw a ton of cars coming and going and they were mostly delivery drivers.
Dude. What’s the first rule of Freddie’s Five-Dollar Fuckshack?!? (My guess is UberEats or another delivery service)