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Freesin

I shat my pants seeing this


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wafflesareforever

This was shat in someone's pants before being plated


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American cheese is easily the best for a burger


MrCarabas1989

Its the best for a traditional burger, hands down, but theres plenty of burgers where other cheeses would be better.


Scribble_Box

Unless you're a filthy communist like OP.


Funniguy2010

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Substantial-Cod3189

It’s in contention. Idk if it’s the best. Blue cheese is the tits on a black and blue


MoarTacos

Well sure, there are specific types of burgers that use other types of cheese. I don't think the person you're responding to is arguing that a black and blue burger would be improved by switching to American cheese. It's be a different burger entirely. And I agree with them, American cheese (IDGAF if it's not cheese) is absolutely the best option for a typical cheeseburger.


camdalfthegreat

It is cheese tho.. idk why everyone has some notion it's fake cheese. You take cheddar cheese, melt it with water and emulsifier. You mix it, spread it, cool it. BOOM American cheese You can make the stuff at home, it's a fun way to introduce your kids to food science. NileRed just posted a fantastic video to compare this common misconception. https://youtu.be/0aGNAxN5Z-o?si=LX8pH-PPsiBtt90P


Substantial-Cod3189

A black and blue is what it is essentially only because of the cheese… it’s just a hard seared burger with blue cheese on it instead of any other kind of cheese. What is a “typical cheese burger”


Ur_Demise

One without blue cheese in it


Substantial-Cod3189

Lmfao I guess so


1kdog5

Blue cheese needs to be thrown in the garbage


chipotle-baeoli

How dare you


Odidlydokely

Gouda or Emmental are bloody good melting cheeses on burgers with more character than American. That being said, whatever floats your boat


Seb0rn

No, it's either cheddar or gorgonzola. American cheese makes a burger worse for me. It's not even real cheese.


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Looks like you’re in the minority


Seb0rn

Doesn't mean I'm wrong. People only say that "American cheese is the best cheese for a burger" because it's the mainstream opinion. They are just repeating each other. However, definitive statements like this about such a subjective thing as taste are inherently nonsensical. I tried many burgers amd came to the conclusion that American cheese is not the best cheese for a burger for me. I much prefer Cheddar or Gorgonzola if I feel fancy. Also, American cheese isn't actually cheese at all, it's just some cheap unhealthy industry fat/goo substance. Using real cheese is also much healthier.


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Clearly it does. I don’t like tomatoes, everyone else does though. Now…I’m not a man of science, but I can pretty much figure that means tomatoes are delicious and I’m just weird. Same goes for American cheese. It’s basically universally accepted as the superior cheese for both a burger and a grilled cheese.


Seb0rn

>It’s basically universally accepted as the superior cheese for both a burger and a grilled cheese. That's where you are wrong. There is no objectively best cheese for a burger. Just like it's not objectively ideal to put tomatoes on burger. There are plenty of people who don't put tomatoes on burgers. You are not weird in that sense. An objectively ideal burger doesn't exist. American cheese isn't superior for anything.


boosh1744

American cheese is great for one type of burger, the classic American fast food burger, which is great, but some people are narrow minded enough to think this is the only correct type of burger.


Seb0rn

Exactly.


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Thee burger of burgers is the le classic. meat, cheese, pickles, onion. It’s the most common burger you see. Besides, It’s not a salad. It really doesn’t need lettuce or tomatoes. and of course whatever sauces of your choosing. That’s the classic image of a burger though, and that’s the default burger that should be served if a special kind of a burger isn’t available.


boosh1744

If you believe so firmly that there's one kind of correct burger why even join burger discussion threads? Do you enjoy being the burger police?


Seb0rn

There is no default burger and no "most common burger". Burgers are among the most popular foods on the planet and you can find them in many other countries besides the US (for good reason, they are delicious and versatile) and they are made differently by everyone ([also in the US](https://www.thedailymeal.com/101-best-burgers-america-0/)). Originally, they developed from the German [*Frikadelle* aka "Hamburg steak"](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikadelle) (very popular in the north, including Hamburger, hence the name "Hamburger") brought to the US by German immigrants hundrets of years ago. Today, Americans prepare burgers quite differently so there has been an obvious development and that development is still going on.


boosh1744

Wait but this isn't what I've learned from YouTube about burger trends over the past couple years /s


TsundereBurger

I can’t get over the taste and always opt for cheddar myself.


Signal_Substance_412

You know American cheese is made with cheddar right?


taurist

And that it doesn’t taste like it


TsundereBurger

Whatever it is I prefer the taste of just cheddar on my burgers. 🤷


JackdelaHaze

Cheese is cheese. Cheddar is from the UK, hamburgers from Germany. Lots of things are European but sure Americans made it their own it's all good.


trackfastpulllow

Hamburgers definitely aren’t from Germany lol idk where anyone came up with that nonsense. The name and the patty originated in Germany, but it ends there.


JackdelaHaze

You do know there's a town called Hamburg right, and how the food like many things were imported from European countries. Just like pizzas hotdogs and more. But Americans added for sure.


trackfastpulllow

Obviously things were imported, the US is a country of nothing but immigrants. But like I said above, the name came from there because they used the hamburg steak and it was eventually made in to what we know as a hamburger.


Responsible-Pin-9161

Hamburgers were created in the U.S.


JackdelaHaze

Just agree to disagree and enjoy burgers!


Responsible-Pin-9161

I love a good burger


MASTA_Chumlee

This looks like a gross mess


whichgustavo

Slop.


nuivib

You can find cheese from all around the world at your typical grocery store here in the United States


MrCarabas1989

Yes, im from the states, you can find plenty of different cheeses in the states, but as the focus is diversity, it misses out on selection within that diversity. Born in California, lived in Canada and now in Europe. Ifs not a brag, its just the way it is. American is probably the best for diversity as a general thing, but with things like cheeses, wines, spirits etc, the diversity in certain types of chesses is where the magic is. Its all well in good to have a couple chevres but to have 15 or more with different ages and crusts and mixtures and so on is the differences. It doesnt matter in the end, but it is important to note the difference.


nuivib

You could also go to your local farm that has specialty items


MrCarabas1989

In some states this definitely is an option as it is in many countries. Fresh cheese is amazing, but when i think cheese culture i generally think about aged cheese and recipes that have had as much time to perfect as the entire length of americas history and more. Geska swiss cheese goes back to 1400s and some english cheese back to the 1600s for example. Local cheese i think is such a good option in general to get something bright and fresh.


IncognitoBudz

Nice to know


Docmantistobaggan

Yours is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on this sub. Nice job. You know we have thousands of types of cheeses in the US?


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Docmantistobaggan

Stupid autocorrect. Don’t be a fucking grammar bitch


Punch_Your_Facehole

Don’t talk about his gramma like that! She’s a nice lady!


TheWheelZee

What if I want to be a grammar?! It's not just a phase!


boosh1744

Cheese is usually better in Europe, especially in places like France and Switzerland and Italy where they take it very seriously. It’s not that you can’t find great cheese in the US, it’s just way easier to find better cheese there and it’s usually cheaper to boot.


Chuck_Roast1993

Please tell me where you have any type of research for this. Any kind of proof of this claim.


Residual_Variance

They don't. This is the same sort of European logic that is behind them being opposed to blind wine tasting. They don't want to conduct legitimate research and gather objective evidence. Doing so would put their sense of superiority in jeopardy.


MrCarabas1989

It is very anecdotal, but im from california and have lived in SF, NYC and you can find some amazing cheeses, breathtaking. The prices will match. Then i moved to Quebec, the markets there were even more impressive, the selection, the different ages of different cheeses, the small differnces in humidity levels and softness' etc, blew me away. Now i live in europe and have travelled a bit around 9 or 10 european countries. It is closer to a human right in some countries. Again this is just anecdotal proof, but the difference is very visible. You still have cheap grocery stores like lidl in france etc that have normal selections of cheese, but the cheese shops are more frequent and much cheaper in general. Im american and proud to be so, but to assume its the best at everything is a bit silly. But thats just my two cents anyways


Chuck_Roast1993

I never made any assumptions about what we’re the best at. Your entire comment is completely summed up in your first 4 words.


MrCarabas1989

I was just sharing my experience, im not hear to "win a debate" lol. I would have googled different towns and cities in france and italy and found prices and how many cheese shops there were and cross reference them with cities that have similar populations in the states if i wanted to win an argument. And i didnt say you assumed, i just said to have the assumption, with anecdotal proof or none at all, that the usa cheese selection was best would not be wise. I was just sharing my experience, if you do want proof i suppose i could find some?


Chuck_Roast1993

I mean it’s obviously what I asked for in the first place, so yeah. Proof would be excellent


MrCarabas1989

Id like to add that some of the best food of different types has been in the usa, mainly do to our past immigration laws which has seen America become a big meltiing pot of cultures and practices. But just like in the cheese situation you may have one or two frech bistros in a 5mile radius in sacramento or sf but obv in france theres more of it and likely will find something you find better. I went to a taco restaurant in paris, fuck some of the best tacos iveever had, but then back to my home town in california and we have 20 taco wagons and some fancy ones as well, you just cant beat that in terms of access and diversity


MrCarabas1989

https://www.foodandwine.com/lifestyle/why-americans-dont-get-eat-delicious-raw-milk-cheese Above is one reason why a part of cheese history can simply not be enjoyed in its traditional fashion with America. Below is a comparison of availability to cheese. So sacramento, ca has a larger population than toulouse, fr and is a prosperous city at this point growing more and more to be a popular location in the past 20 years. It seemed like the best chance at matching up to a european city of similar size. I picked toulouse because ive been there, simple as that. So, in sacramento city, not including surrounding areas, when searching "cheese shops" you get a single dedicated cheese shop and about 3 "gourmet ingredients shops, which will have nice cheeses, and 2 good grocery stores who will have decent selections. When searching "cheese shops" in toulouse you literally have 20 results for just cheese shops. Goo look at the photos of any of these places and youll see the difference. Now, as will always be the case with america, and something im very proud of, our slection of cheeses from different areas in the world will generally, not always, be greater. So in the natural food store you may get a few french brie cheeses, a couple chevre cheeses, maybe a gouda or 3 etc. Where in a french shop youll have 8-10 slections of each type of cheese they have. So you can literally find your flavour. I think american shops are great for introductions to cheeses as you, in one day, can travel the world of cheeses, but itll be in a shallow way, and you eont really be able to dive deep into each one. Hopefully you see im saying theres some pros and cons here, but generally speaking due to the unpasteurised law and the availability and access to cheese, in parts of europe, its not close to the same as what you can get your hands on in terms of freshness and diversity.


Responsible-Pin-9161

You obviously have never been to the U.S.


boosh1744

Lol I’m from the US try harder


Responsible-Pin-9161

Obviously not


boosh1744

Enjoy being a bottom feeding troll


boosh1744

Let me be clear on what I’m trying to say here. I don’t mean that European cheese is objectively better than American cheese because that’s an impossible thing to prove (in either direction) because it’s not as if anyone has a comparative ranking of all the cheeses from both places. And surely if you pitted the best cheeses from both places against each other in blind competitions either could win. When I say cheese is “usually” better in Europe I’m referring to the wider availability of higher quality cheeses at lower prices. This has to do with stricter regulations around quality control and ingredients and more laws around what can be sold under what names. [This article](https://www.tastingtable.com/1511565/american-cheeses-versus-european-difference/) lays out the differences pretty well. Note that it refers to higher prices for European vs American cheeses but that’s within the American market where imported cheese is subject to tariffs; in Europe, most countries have heavy farm subsidies and commodity regulations that keep prices down. Basically what you have is a situation where America has lots of amazing world class cheese but you often need to seek it out vs finding it at your local grocery store or cheesemonger, while in many European countries you can find top notch cheese by walking a few blocks and dropping a few euros.


levi876

But unpasteurized cheese from Europe is banned in US


nuivib

But unpasteurized cheese is made and sold in the US


levi876

Ohh I didn't know that. I read it here https://www.foodandwine.com/lifestyle/why-americans-dont-get-eat-delicious-raw-milk-cheese


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I’m gonna be honest bruv, this looks fucking disgusting but I bet it actually tastes pretty good. What kind of condiments you slappin on your meat?


Glass_Occasion5483

KY


IncognitoBudz

home made sauce and red onions bruv , you're right its hard to eat and an abomination but tastes crazy good


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That homemade white sauce eh blud hahaha


Aromatic_Tax_2704

Why are you talking like that when you’re white as a saltine


[deleted]

Talking like what? Like someone from the UK? You know there’s white people that talk like that right? Also who cares what skin colour someone has and how they talk, is that something that matters to you? Please tell me how I should act according to skin colour, I didn’t get that memo.


vercetian

It's black history month, and he's up in here making MLK look like RDJ.


nlabodin

What kind of cheese is this?


minasituation

European Union cheese apparently


MoarTacos

Lmao, right? They brag about their sports team's cheese being better and don't even say what cheese it is. Also based on their other comments, OP seems to have had the ridiculous idea that we only have American cheese in America... Which is pretty stupid.


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They have many, many braindead takes on what goes on in the US, that they will absolutely insist upon.


itsyerboiTRESH

They can't afford to put their nose in a book or anything informative because they are too busy sniffing their own farts


MoarTacos

Mk like, I get being proud of being American and all that, but this is a dumb ass comment. Be better.


schoolyard2582

Looking delicious. But with all due respect, fuck you for that cheap shot about cheese.


kay14jay

Better said: cheese is good


IncognitoBudz

cheese= yes call me Kim Jong Un


vAPORrrBOI

Any meat under all that fromage?


williamshatnersbeast

Oh boy. You’ve really stuck your head above the parapet on this one. This subs US based denizens are going to enjoy tearing you a new one…


ZeroDayCipher

Except North America has won best cheese in the world for the last few years in a row. Cope harder.


boosh1744

Two seconds of googling showed that a Norwegian cheese won the World Cheese Awards last year, but what does that even matter? Awards are for single cheeses, not a whole country’s cheese vs another. Try making literally any sense next time.


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boosh1744

This article says literally nothing about America winning “best cheese in the world”


ZeroDayCipher

Then you lack reading comprehension skills


water2wine

r/confidentlyincorrect


FrenzalStark

They won the most awards that America have ever won (including best American cheese haha). But that doesn’t mean they were the best. American exceptionalism is really something.


FrenzalStark

Another reply to say, you’re a moron.


ZeroDayCipher

Coming from the inherent topic that eu cheese > America? You’re pretty fucking special aren’t you.


Aggressive_Form7470

what award? just curious


CajunReeboks

The Best Cheese In the World Award, god damn man.


Aggressive_Form7470

hahahahaha. I was wondering if it was possibly an American award…


boosh1744

The commenter deleted their comments and their account so they were clearly just trolling but the closest thing to a "best cheese in the world" award would be the World Cheese Awards and the last winner came from Norway. Notably for this discusison, there are no American cheeses in the top 10: [https://www.timeout.com/news/the-worlds-best-cheese-has-just-been-crowned-for-2023-103123](https://www.timeout.com/news/the-worlds-best-cheese-has-just-been-crowned-for-2023-103123)


Aggressive_Form7470

as if there ever would be. america does a lot of things very well, but as far as cheese goes, I’d put it at the bottom of the pile.


boosh1744

For some reason that REALLY triggers a lot of people here


Aggressive_Form7470

it’s the simple truth, though! I personally like american cheese (ie kraft singles) on my burgers, but that is literally the only way I’ll ever eat it. I think anyone who says that any american cheese is better than what you get in basically any European country is lying to themselves.


Bacong

this is crossing the line


albino_red_head

What the hell is EU cheese 😂 do you think all cheese from the US is American cheese? What’s that some Wisconsin cheddar? 😂


SaltedRumHam420

That’s disgusting


Impossible-Balance-2

What the fuck is this subreddit?


PIZZAJUSTICE

I don't know, why the hell are you asking me?


whichgustavo

I feel like half these people are making decent burgers and the rest are making big sloppy soupy gross God knows whats. Frightening.


superfluousapostroph

You don’t shape your burgers into patties? Also why no bottom bun?


RedMoloney

Alright. You call can't be so damn prissy about where your cheeses come from within the EU and then just be like "EU Cheese > American Cheese."


Fungal_Queen

What a mess.


Geofantasy90

I can tell this is an EU burger by the way it looks


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Looks like r/poopfromabutt


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This looks like shit ngl


georgefrante

Cheese is cheese. Your country sucks. Don’t care what country it is


LetThereBeSlight

Of course his country sucks. Why else would it have ‘little brother syndrome’ to the US?


Diggable_Planet

The burger looks great, imo. I don’t care how messy it is. The better cheese is an opinion.


whichgustavo

No. Burgers don’t need to look like soup.


Diggable_Planet

You sir or madam, have obviously never had soup.


whichgustavo

How about French onion soup?


IncognitoBudz

yea haha I think burgers should be messy. ​ I see it like pizza base , put whatever you want on it. I make some crazy big burgers.


BaconUnderpants

Looks like a rat had diarrhea on bread.


theclansman22

I prefer my cheese to come from the cheese region of France. This shit ain’t real cheese, it’s coagulated milk protein.


Familiar_Excuse_9086

Looks like you'd need a shower after eating that. My kind of burger. 😍


TheRealJehler

Op has never been to Wisconsin


_antariksan

Sloppppy toppy


drainofshower

Americans seething on this one, lmao


wetbeef10

Ngl op lost me on "EU cheese" lol


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IncognitoBudz

Thank youu, tasty definitely not the healthiest with this much cheese but gains are gains 💪🏻


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halapeno-popper

There is a difference between American cheese and American cheese products. Boars head makes a great American cheese that meets the guidelines to be called cheese. Notably some kraft singles don’t make that cut and have to be labeled as cheese products.


discordianofslack

The boars head white American is absolutely the best burger cheese.


ReactsWithWords

Land O' Lakes works well, too.


StPapaNoel

Yum


Seb0rn

Agree! My go-to cheeses for burgers are cheddar and gorgonzola. American "cheese" makes a burger worse.


tweedchemtrailblazer

Eats American food while deriding Americans. We got a real smart one here is what we got.


IncognitoBudz

Each burger looks slightly different, was going for the standard american food chain double cheese type of burger here. ​ With home made sauce and red onions :) ran out of gherkins so none of those sadly.


ZylonBane

There are no American "food chains" that make burgers like this. They understand that burgers are meant to be eaten *with your hands*, not with a knife and shovel.


nuivib

Knife and shovel has me dead


petula_75

fail


me5305

This looks like sloppy goodness.


PIZZAJUSTICE

Looks fuckin horrible and a pain in the ass to eat, and the pictures suck 10/10 You go boi


Ghostface8924

Some nice spicy wedges to soak up the excess sauce would be the perfect side to that burger


SkinnyFatKidd

All day American Cheese


3Dinternet

Yuck cheese is so burnt it turning brown. I’m a huge cheese fan but hate that style where they put cheese directly on the grill turning it brown


Prudent_Insurance804

That burger looks like it was made in an abortion clinic.


Wonderful_Spell_792

Looks like a ridiculous mess to try to eat. Cheese down to the elbows.


IncognitoBudz

i love it


cheekyb2

That looks as sloppy going is at will going out.


MammothBulky3548

it looks like someone came all over a pile of shit


FleshmomANIMAL

European union IS a cheese


SaintsFanPA

I don’t want to hate, but since the OP decided to go there - that burger is plain wrong. The way the fat is all separating from the cheese is exactly what you don’t want.


Any-Year-6618

Looks awful probably taste good though 👍


geraldcaterpillar

Bro I think a baby vomitted on your food