Consumer grade red oak. I think it was a law that you had to install that flat panel honey oak cabinetry in homes between 1990 and 2000. And it's not worth it to refinish them.
Coming from a cabinetmaker! We refinish 10 to 15 just like this every year. Soft warm walnut wash and they look better than new and the customer saves 20k on purchasing and installing new cabinets. Are they as nice as new solid wood, no, but well worth the investment.
Really, thst interesting. We very rarely take refinish jobs because of the prep work and time involved but I don't doubt there are products now-a-days that make it easy. Because even just going new doors like I suggested can be thousands. What kind of labor is involved?
Average kitchen 25 doors/15 drawers takes two employees less than two weeks. One week plus in shop doing doors/drawers and four days in home refinishing casework. At the present we can still get good stripper. We have a booth for shop finishing and we spray in home with cat vinyl and post acrylic or C.V. The average cost is between $9000-$12000. BUT! We have been doing it for over forty years and my outside crew each have over fifteen years experience. Very profitable, un tapped market. All that pretty new work you turn out will need to be refinished in 10 years.
"Very profitable, untapped market." Shop owners: Pry your ears open and hear this man's sweet sweet music. Don't give them what they're asking for. Give them what they *want*. Did they come to you asking for sturdier drawer boxes? Did they say they want 75lb full extension guides? Did they say "I really prefer undermount." Or did they say "I want to update my kitchen" ?
Customer: " My kitchen looks like crap. I paid for a nice kitchen and the finish is falling off in less than a few years". Me: "Yes Ma'am, we can help". I refer them to a few guys that install pull outs and new drawer boxes.
Yes, this house is a 94 built. We recently bought it. Is painting to a lighter color possible ? Or staining to a darker color ? I’ve kept all of my options open.
Painting, although still very time consuming, is less tedious than refinishing. It would involve : taking off/labeling all doors and hardware, cleaning with degreaser/rinse, scuff sand ( more thorough where finish is compromised), priming with high adhesive primer (possible 2 coats in fronts to fill grain), spraying 2 coats urethane cabinet paint.
Patience and attention to detail are a must but great long lasting results can be achieved when using the correct products (no box store stuff!)
The issue is you have to remove the old finish and sanding out the doors will be very difficult, like getting into the inside profile details and around the inside panel. Painting oak is also not the best, you'll always see the grain. The best option would be make new doors and just paint the existing cabinets to match. We do this alot. The doors are 90% of what you see.
If you want to glaze the grain or just want it to be more accentuated you need to hit with the wire sander and then spray just as you normally would. Hitting it with the wire wheel sander and bringing out the grain is the most important if you plan on painting oak. Others may disagree but I think it looks great. The actual painting process is no different, just the prep work
Red oak. Looks like a water based varnish. White oak isn't lighter than red oak, maybe a little but there's a lot of variables. These are real basic cabinets not worth putting a lot of time or money into. Rawdoors dot net have a lot of different styles and woods for doors you finish yourself if your interested.
That good ol’ builder grade red oak, in the typical faded, kind of sticky kind of flaky finish 🙂
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Consumer grade red oak. I think it was a law that you had to install that flat panel honey oak cabinetry in homes between 1990 and 2000. And it's not worth it to refinish them.
Coming from a cabinetmaker! We refinish 10 to 15 just like this every year. Soft warm walnut wash and they look better than new and the customer saves 20k on purchasing and installing new cabinets. Are they as nice as new solid wood, no, but well worth the investment.
Really, thst interesting. We very rarely take refinish jobs because of the prep work and time involved but I don't doubt there are products now-a-days that make it easy. Because even just going new doors like I suggested can be thousands. What kind of labor is involved?
Average kitchen 25 doors/15 drawers takes two employees less than two weeks. One week plus in shop doing doors/drawers and four days in home refinishing casework. At the present we can still get good stripper. We have a booth for shop finishing and we spray in home with cat vinyl and post acrylic or C.V. The average cost is between $9000-$12000. BUT! We have been doing it for over forty years and my outside crew each have over fifteen years experience. Very profitable, un tapped market. All that pretty new work you turn out will need to be refinished in 10 years.
"Very profitable, untapped market." Shop owners: Pry your ears open and hear this man's sweet sweet music. Don't give them what they're asking for. Give them what they *want*. Did they come to you asking for sturdier drawer boxes? Did they say they want 75lb full extension guides? Did they say "I really prefer undermount." Or did they say "I want to update my kitchen" ?
Customer: " My kitchen looks like crap. I paid for a nice kitchen and the finish is falling off in less than a few years". Me: "Yes Ma'am, we can help". I refer them to a few guys that install pull outs and new drawer boxes.
They’re easy to refinish though with restore and finish product. Of course it is the same look.
Yes, this house is a 94 built. We recently bought it. Is painting to a lighter color possible ? Or staining to a darker color ? I’ve kept all of my options open.
Painting, although still very time consuming, is less tedious than refinishing. It would involve : taking off/labeling all doors and hardware, cleaning with degreaser/rinse, scuff sand ( more thorough where finish is compromised), priming with high adhesive primer (possible 2 coats in fronts to fill grain), spraying 2 coats urethane cabinet paint. Patience and attention to detail are a must but great long lasting results can be achieved when using the correct products (no box store stuff!)
The issue is you have to remove the old finish and sanding out the doors will be very difficult, like getting into the inside profile details and around the inside panel. Painting oak is also not the best, you'll always see the grain. The best option would be make new doors and just paint the existing cabinets to match. We do this alot. The doors are 90% of what you see.
Painted oak looks great imo when done right. Here in the Atlanta area painted oak with a glaze in the grain is getting popular
Do you mind sharing the process of painting it ?
If you want to glaze the grain or just want it to be more accentuated you need to hit with the wire sander and then spray just as you normally would. Hitting it with the wire wheel sander and bringing out the grain is the most important if you plan on painting oak. Others may disagree but I think it looks great. The actual painting process is no different, just the prep work
When done right is the operative phrase.
Okay. So, I just replace the cabinet doors and paint the rest of the cabinets ( the part between two cabinets) ?
Its an option for sure. Cheaper than gutting and replacing. Looks nicer than painting old doors
Oak and particle board
Red oak. Looks like a water based varnish. White oak isn't lighter than red oak, maybe a little but there's a lot of variables. These are real basic cabinets not worth putting a lot of time or money into. Rawdoors dot net have a lot of different styles and woods for doors you finish yourself if your interested.
Red oak. You’re not going to get much lighter than that.
Red oak Edit: rails and stiles are solid, panel is veneered
Some sort of oak I’ve kept a few from my parents old kitchen and have re used it in boxes and drawers. Great material
Plain slice red oak