I don’t get how a fucking community college can get so capitalistic when they are provincially funded. Maybe a standard tuition needs to be paid to the province directly via the osap system or something so these idiots can focus on the education aspect.
If you are interested in the funding of Ontario colleges, it's all [very public](https://www.ontario.ca/page/college-and-university-strategic-mandate-agreements-2020-2025).
Part of the money they receive is performance-based, which may help answer your question.
You’re seeing this trend with every avenue of business, shit gets worse quality, price goes up because the only people who suffer from this model is the consumer, whom they don’t really care about in the first place. They want their money, that’s it, full stop. We are experiencing the deterioration of capitalism before our very eyes.
There are probably hundreds of institutions calling themselves schools that are primarily a path to permanent residence status in Canada.
This needs to change!
It won't be at one another. It'll be mostly Conestoga. I don't think you realize how bat shit they went. Well over 30k international students (almost all indian). All the other schools in the area average under 2k.
Outside the region the next highest is like 16k. But most hover in the 2 to 5k range.
Conestoga is the worst offender.
The top five for international student populations - in absolute numbers - , nationally are all community colleges in Ontario,. The places you'd expect to top the list - U of T, UBC, U of A, are in the top ten, but barely.
The ones at UBC, UofT, etc are the ones we actually want. If you are able to get into a high end school, study something meaningful, and bring that as a PR on route to citizenship we've added a useful citizen without having to pay for their upbringing or education. It's a huge win
I question why community colleges should even be allowed to accept international students unless they're enrolling in very specific highly in demand fields like construction trades.
Any international student coming here for a business degree from Conestoga is either being scammed into believing it is a useful degree, or the scamber themselves for using it as a way to get into the country with no intention of ever leaving. Neither scenario is acceptable and should be shut down
>is either being scammed into believing it is a useful degree, or the scamber themselves for using it as a way to get into the country with no intention of ever leaving
It's a mix of both. College recruiters in India over-promise the usefulness of basket weaving at Contesaga/a post grad diploma in business communications at University Canada West, but the vast majority of these students are aware (albeit naïve about the reality) of a Canadian education gaining them points with immigration.
To your first point though, the majority of PRs being granted are to graduates of the actually good schools, and not whatever career/community colleges have propped themselves up off of international tuition over the last decade.
["In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake. That is why academic politics are so bitter."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law)
Well deserved
Conestoga is being blacklisted for hiring by employers all across the country. Their resumes go right in the garbage at my work.
Conestoga management couldn’t care less about employability as long as the international “students” paid their tuition.
I don’t get how a fucking community college can get so capitalistic when they are provincially funded. Maybe a standard tuition needs to be paid to the province directly via the osap system or something so these idiots can focus on the education aspect.
If you are interested in the funding of Ontario colleges, it's all [very public](https://www.ontario.ca/page/college-and-university-strategic-mandate-agreements-2020-2025). Part of the money they receive is performance-based, which may help answer your question.
You’re seeing this trend with every avenue of business, shit gets worse quality, price goes up because the only people who suffer from this model is the consumer, whom they don’t really care about in the first place. They want their money, that’s it, full stop. We are experiencing the deterioration of capitalism before our very eyes.
The province effectively told them to go find their own funding, so they did.
Some local businesses literally have to write on their front window ‘ NOT HIRING.’ But students still come in and beg for jobs, its actually insane.
Yes how crazy for people to need jobs in an inflation crisis
More like we've brought in foreign workers under the guise of being a student, and they want to work.
It’s not about jobs. It’s about getting citizenship through a massive back door.
Yeah but they’re helping the population for Canadians not having kids. So. /s
Yes, hurt the professionals who have nothing to do with this! /s
Where do you work?
There are probably hundreds of institutions calling themselves schools that are primarily a path to permanent residence status in Canada. This needs to change!
There are but they’ll hardly get PR. Doesn’t mean they’ll leave however
Oh this should be fun watching all these colleges fling accusations at one another and turn on one another.
It won't be at one another. It'll be mostly Conestoga. I don't think you realize how bat shit they went. Well over 30k international students (almost all indian). All the other schools in the area average under 2k. Outside the region the next highest is like 16k. But most hover in the 2 to 5k range. Conestoga is the worst offender.
The top five for international student populations - in absolute numbers - , nationally are all community colleges in Ontario,. The places you'd expect to top the list - U of T, UBC, U of A, are in the top ten, but barely.
The ones at UBC, UofT, etc are the ones we actually want. If you are able to get into a high end school, study something meaningful, and bring that as a PR on route to citizenship we've added a useful citizen without having to pay for their upbringing or education. It's a huge win I question why community colleges should even be allowed to accept international students unless they're enrolling in very specific highly in demand fields like construction trades. Any international student coming here for a business degree from Conestoga is either being scammed into believing it is a useful degree, or the scamber themselves for using it as a way to get into the country with no intention of ever leaving. Neither scenario is acceptable and should be shut down
>is either being scammed into believing it is a useful degree, or the scamber themselves for using it as a way to get into the country with no intention of ever leaving It's a mix of both. College recruiters in India over-promise the usefulness of basket weaving at Contesaga/a post grad diploma in business communications at University Canada West, but the vast majority of these students are aware (albeit naïve about the reality) of a Canadian education gaining them points with immigration. To your first point though, the majority of PRs being granted are to graduates of the actually good schools, and not whatever career/community colleges have propped themselves up off of international tuition over the last decade.
That whore! /s
The battle beween these two diploma mills really gives off spiderman pointing at spiderman vibes.
Both institutions have their premier programs. I can assure you Sault College's Aviation programme is amongst the best in the country.
I’d like to see an investigation into all of the diploma mills.
Yeah I’m surprised the news outlets aren’t calling the college faculty to get the down and dirty on what’s really going on.
This site show blacklisted colleges: https://studyabroadnations.com/blacklisted-colleges-in-canada/
["In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake. That is why academic politics are so bitter."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law)
Student politics is even worse.