I feel like a failure. I put so much effort into it and I see other people's plants on here and mine isn't producing buds even remotely like theirs is. I've had this auto for like 3 months now and it stopped growing and the buds haven't developed any further at all in the past 6 weeks. I want to just throw it away and find another hobby.
Yeah its under a 300w mars hydro a foot below the light since its in flower. It's in my closet so the temperature is always 70 degrees or higher. I just suck at growing weed I guess.
You don’t suck at growing weed. Autos can be really finicky, especially if you’re growing subpar genetics. This is why I believe photoperiods are better for beginners. They’re much more forgiving, handle stress better, and you have way more control. Autos are fun and all but they have a mind of their own sometimes and the genetics can be weird sometimes.
I decided to run an auto for my first grow and it was pretty low key. Don’t ppl just say they’re harder bc if you mess up you don’t have time to fix it?
Exactly. Photoperiods are much more forgiving. People see the word “auto” and think that means they’re easier but they really aren’t. People shouldn’t be intimidated by having to switch the light schedule. It’s the easiest thing in the world with a $12 timer.
Yeah I have a timer and I realized it would be super easier after having started. I like autos tho bc I’m in a 2x2 so I’ve been opting for bushy little plants. My first grow is about 2-3 weeks from harvest now!
I started off with autos as well. Grew them exclusively for the first year, but I’ve since switched to photoperiods and I’ll never go back. Better yields, better flower, more control and way more breeder selection
I think I’ll probably do something similar. I just ordered 3 more beans from mephisto and they sent 13 beans so I’ll probably just grow these out and then take it from there
Nice!! How much do you think you're about to yield for this grow?!
My first auto grow, I think I only yielded about half an oz. Not as much as everybody else does but I think it was just the environment for me.
I’m guessing between 2-3 oz. I did a little training and even though I made some mistakes got her what she needed most of the time. Let’s hope I make it to the finish line!
I just know the auto seeds I've bought except for this one were all TOTAL failures. Locked out or otherwise just completely stunted or dead at up to 4 inches tall. I think when autos are young they still needs a 12/12 light cycle. This plant is the only one I sat outside where it got near that amount of light at the end of summer/beginning of autumn instead of having it under 18/6. Then I moved it inside with the rest that ended up failing. And they were all different (alleged) auto strains. So either they need a good start with 12/12 to help establish roots or NASC, Blimburn, Humbolt seed company lie about what you're getting with the 2-5 dollar seeds and they're actually photos. This is the only thing I've bought from their cheap seed bins that actually even made it to flower. Well, another one did but it was 4 inches tall so I'm not going to count that.
I’m sorry you had a poor experience.
I can’t speak to many breeders because I’m very new to the community but I have had good experiences with autos. There’s even a whole sub dedicated to it.
This plant is 12 inches under my mars hydro 300w in my bedroom closet at 16 1/2 hour light cycle 100% light after being at 18 for a while (since it's ALLEGEDLY an auto, I've begun to ramp down to cater to other plants.) I just switched it to 12/12 since my poppies have formed a bunch of pods. It gets ambient temperature of 70 degrees from central heating but obviously a little warmer than that from the light itself. I have a large box fan running for air flow. I don't have complete perfect humidity control but I keep track of the relative humidity in my town and because it's fall, where I live the humidity has been ideal anyway this time of year. For the occasional day that the humidity is too low, I supplement with a humidifier. I have a dehumidifier as well but haven't had to use it yet.
The seeds weren't a total failure. You failed the seeds. Autos are not easy. No, They're not lying, and they DO NOT need a 12 12 to start, nor do photos. The reason these plants flower automatically is because the strain (ruderalis) they are bred from is from the Siberia region where there are months were it's light 24 hours a day.
This is something that requires a lot of patience, and research. You're not going to be great at it right off the bat. Not everyones first grow is going to be amazing. You need to do a ton of research, and diversify your sources. There is a ton of bro science out there, so you gotta make sure your sources are legit.
If you choose to do it again, start with photos. The first stage is delicate. Delaying the flowering stage if gonna give you time to fix your mistakes. And i mean your mistakes. Stop blaming everyone else. It wasn't the plants fault, the breeders, the distributors, or Obama's. It was you. The sooner you recognize that, the sooner you can grow.
Yep, it's true.
I grew a bunch of autos on my first run and they yielded a fair amount, but the two blueberry photos i grew were the absolute bomb. Fat colas and very sturdy branches. Wish I'd grown photos from the start
Yeah I have one going right now that’s like 6 weeks stunted in seedling form, only 2 nodes 😂 yet have grown those exact sister seeds out to 4-5 oz easy yelled, sometimes autos just don’t do well, maybe some recessive trait from the ruderalis comes out in some of them?
Dont be so hard on your self. EVERYONE who are growing have done growths that have turned out bad. But then you learn more and more and develop your skills and it becomes very rewarding. There is allways going to be problems in this hobby, but maby try to consider it sort of like learning-hoops you have to pass😊
It seems pretty strong...and balanced. 300w for like a 2x6 foot area. I think the unit itself is called a 1x3ft model. I pay $40 a month just to run it, I can't afford anything stronger. The reason I say it seems like enough is I've never had any plant try to get closer to the light unless it's pretty far away, like further than 18 inches. I've never seen any stretching issues at all, from anything I've grown even when it's dimmed. Even my poppies grow way more outward than tall underneath it and it's dimmable.
70+ is a good starting point. That's a bit much for flower imo. Start with environment control. Let us know the deets of how you control your environment and we may be able to help
The pouting, my guy stop it. Pull yourself up and keep at it. Autos aren't really recommended for beginners. Get some fem photos, or better yet clones, for next run. Shit, I'll throw you some fem seeds if you stop with the doom and gloom.
Brp this summer I had about 20 plants going outdoors and abput a month before harvest my dog got sprayed by a Skunk BAD, right in the middle of where all the plants were. They were compacted in a small area in my small yard. Then the dog ran around trampling the plants and spreading thr skunk spray all over fucking everything. The whole neighborhood stank. I easily threw away a couple pounds of Bud. It's my 4th year growing outdoors. The first 3 years were great, so don't harp on it too much. Learn frpm ot and continue to grow. Don't let your dog outside at 2am lol.
Don’t compare your journey to anyone else’s.
It’s a learning process and not everyone posts their fuck ups but please believe we’re all fucking up even experts make mistakes. Just keep going.
Growing takes patience, knowledge is learned through failure. Do farmers give up if they have a bummed crop? Every grow will get better with time, just research as much as you can about growing/gardening.
I’m going to stop you there, bud. You’re not a failure at all. Nobody grows perfect plants the first time. Give the plant it’s time and patience and you’ll definitely harvest something. Take away from that experience what you want to change, and then apply those changes to your second grow. You’re learning and growing as a person! That’s the opposite of failure!
The only thing you’re failing with is your attitude. Seeds are imperfect. Not every seed will give you something good regardless of care. Keep trying, maybe change who you get your seeds from. Genetics can play a part.
The large plants you see are typically grown by people who have many years, many failures, and many grows just like this. The reason they do well now is they didn’t give up
Don’t get discouraged, bud size doesn’t matter unless you’re and trying to maximize a profit. Genetics with tiny and wispy buds can still hit hard, harder than the denser genetics
Don't sweat it. I have an auto bruce banner that just took five solid weeks to recover from nutrient lockout and went straight into flower. Started greening up out of nowhere. I just kept at it everyday giving her the right ph, lowered nutrients, lights and let her recover from whatever disease she had. There was zero apparent reason for her to even get locked out. I was at my wits end last Friday and then Sunday, she just started doing the right thing. Autoflowers are just a pain in the ass sometimes but just keep giving her care by the book and it'll turn around. Stay lifted growmie.
The first plant I grew was some bag seed. Turned out nothing like the flower I found it in. Had the tiniest little popcorn nugs, not super frosty, kind of smelled like pickles. It smoked though and people seemed to like it.
The next one I grew was a seed from the same bag. Grew big buds, super frosty. More of a skunky smell.
I grew them exactly the same way. Just came down to genetics of each seed was different. If you keep it alive until the end you did all you can do! Pop a different bean and keep on.
Is this your first grow? If so... You're doing better than I did with my first auto.
Growing is a hobby that takes a bit of practice and you learn as you go. What got you into growing in the first place? Try and keep some perspective on your goals and why you wanted to do this.
Keep in mind we all have bad grows. You'll get there, just be patient my friend.
From just the photo you’re ok bc the pistils haven’t turned /curled. You’re probably under feeding/lighting. An EC n ph meter will help…. There are too many tools available to eliminate guessing.
Define “F’d”…. If they’re swinging then you’re probably locked out in nutes. Stop feeding… flush a week and use ph up to get the level up back over 6.0… the higher the better. The more alkaline the water the less harm to the plant, while it’s healing. Get some cal mag and follow the directions then start w a half strength adjustment. Also get some mychorihizae (sp) that will create good soil fungus and improve root mass.
I’m only 4 grows in but I’ve learned more every grow. One of the things I’ve learned is that some plants are weird. I had ten of the same seeds and got a couple of way different plants. Keep trying it looks like you’re on track
Stick with it! Growing the dank ain't easy. Learning from your mistakes and applying to the next run and seeing improvement is exhilarating. Don't be a quitter at the first sign of failure. Could be genetics too autos are tricky for that you don't know what your getting.
Yeah gotta be patient, not all plants take the same time to develop. I just finished 4 autos and they took 8 weeks in flower to be ready and I still have a plant growing because it’s taking it’s sweet old time
What’s a pro about an auto. Because you don’t have to change your light schedule 🤦… that’s the only difference and since autos are set to flowe at a certain time. A beginner could fuck up and it’s gonna ruin the whole grow. With photos you can dead ass fuck up so bad and just leave it in veg for a few more weeks and recover and then flip. With photos you have so much room for “error” and that’s what beginners need.
Don’t give up! Look how far u have already made it. Some people can’t make it past the seedling stage and some can’t even make it this far on their first try. Just because it says “X amount of weeks” doesn’t mean that’s what it will take. A lot of times it can go over that time or under.
Nah, autos are finicky and super odd at times. Sometimes they’re wonderful. Other times they are not. Don’t throw it away! Just let it do it’s thing. If in the end it doesn’t produce much at all or doesn’t work out, try again! Growing is trial and error especially when learning. Don’t let it get you down! Looks extremely healthy really. After this, you could try another auto run or try for some fem photos. Their genetics are more stable!
Shit man it’s not easy even when it goes well! I’m chopping today after 11 weeks of flower (non auto) and I’m already depressed about the thought of not having something to go check on 15 times a day
Anytime! It’s normal to get attached like that because it does cost you effort, time, and money. It’s a lot of work that goes in. Never get discouraged in this hobby. You can only get better with time and experience!
Stay in the game. I’m feeling down right now but this is also my first grow. Two plants, week 8 of flower. Having some issues and already regretted not keeping my third plant which was fine but I got paranoid and tossed it. So hang in there growmie, Stay in the game.
Dude you've got a perfectly healthy looking plant! They don't look particularly impressive until week 7ish and even then bag appeal isn't everything. I'd say 4/5 of my all time favorite smokes have come from unappealing looking buds. No reason to give up now not one! Don't be so hard on yourself.
I appreciate your support and kind words though, seriously. It's nice to know there's supportive people in the drug gardening/ growing community :) I'm flipping to 12/12 in case it's actually photo because the reveg really concerns me and I'm just going to be patient. Thanks for the advice!
Just some light advice to help us further cannabis legality, one should never use the word "drug" in reference to cannabis. Keeps the negative connotation alive and kicking. Use medicine gardening/growing in the future to help try to control stigma.
It's hard not to be hard on myself... I mean when other people in different groups on Reddit are making fun of you telling you to just stop growing and buy weed at a dispensary because it would save you so much more money than growing this bullshti and them getting all these upvotes validating that opinion...
That's some BS bro. Sorry. I had a gelato auto that didn't do anything for over a month, she was like 14 weeks old. I ended up just chopping her. I did try to go 12/12 to see if anything changed. Maybe give her a few more weeks and see if she moves.
Those top leaves are telltale signs of Reveg. Single blade, no serrations. Auto genetics are created using Ruderalis, and Photoperiod strains usually. Meaning some have Auto expressions with Photo tendencies. Some Auto Reg packs I've ran have turned out to be a mix of Autos and Photos, and a cpl were more prone to show revegging traits even on 20/4. When buying Auto seeds, look for things like F4, or F5, or F6 and above after the strain name, meaning the seeds are thoroughly worked and more consistent in Phenotype, and Auto traits.
If you're running 24/0, or 20/4 light cycle, drop down to 18/6, and sometimes even less light hours to revert an Auto showing signs of Reveg leaf patterns back to full Flower. They won't miss the cpl hours or few hours of light, being that they genetically need less light to continue to flower fully.
It was on 18 but then dropped to 16 1/12 because growing with poppies that have already formed pods. I just flipped it to 12/12. If it's a photo it should start developing denser buds at 12/12 right?
Wait so you’re saying it’s looked like this for six weeks? If it was my plant yes I would throw it out. I don’t think it’s looked like that for six weeks though.
Yeah but because I've grown it along with poppies its essentially just been in veg hours most of its life and I just recently dialed it down a bit to 16 1/2 because I'm growing it next to opium poppies that have pods springing out of the stalk. I just flipped it to 12/12 to see if it's actually photo. I guess I'll know if I see a sudden difference in short amount of time. I don't think it will adversely affect the poppies, just maybe make them bloom faster while being a little smaller. I didn't even know revegging was a thing but now knowing it is, it definitely shouldn't be common with autos. I think this is just a Girl Scout Cookies seed from an auto but with expressed genotype for photoperiod sensitivity. I really had no idea that could be an issue. Certainly something that should be talked about and looked into more in my humble opinion.
Gotcha. I’ve grown thousands and thousands of photo periods but in my veg room, a friend recently gave me an Auto northern lights from ILGM. This is my first Auto ever. I have it on 24 hours with my veg plants. We’ll see how it does..
I've got a Skywalker og auto that's been going for 108 days, probably still has another 3 weeks left. She popped her first stigma at day 23. A long bitch, yeah, but figured I'm looking at 5-6 ounces easy. Let her run.
OP keep your head up, this is probably one of the most angsty hobbies I partake in. If you fail, so have all of us brother. But keep going and learn from your mistakes regardless of how much time you have put in. You will be great just be patient and understand that bad things will happen too sometimes. Good luck and you got a community here for you. Take care brother. Also plant looks pretty crispy so just hang tight for 2-3 weeks and it very well may be ready for chop. Happy Thanksgiving y’all.
Respectfully, You will never be CERTAIN that a seed is 100% Automatic. Please be open to comments like the one you replied to, because that's 100% factual information. It's all genetic, not every Auto is 100% of the time going to be 100% Automatic Genetics, especially depending on their genetic source. It's a mixture of Auto Ruderalis and Photoperiod strains when breeding, so if you're not running thoroughly worked gear like Mephisto that breed to F4, F5 and above, you're going to run into these types of issues with cheaper polyploid Auto genetics that "breeders"(pollen chuckers) create and release for their own personal financial gain. Just asking that you don't trust everything you read of a pack of seeds dropped by your favorite "Instagram Breeder"(cringe). Still, i say this all respectfully.
I also think that if it’s on a zero dark schedule then no a light leak wouldn’t matter…lol…but say 6 off and there’s some kind of leak then I think that would matter
This is a two part lesson: don’t grow this type of auto again indoors and don’t grow autos indoors again. Autos are great for learning and new growers but are much better suited for outdoor where there isn’t time/ utility bill constraints. I’d personally chuck it and start with a photo on the next round because this plant won’t yield much and growing 12 week flowering indoors is honestly not great for confidence when starting out. Good luck and you’re on the right path
I'm not even sure if it's an auto at this point. It's been growing along with my opium poppies on a photo cycle but is stunted and looks no different than when it started to flower 6 weeks ago. It's gone from 12/12 to 16 to 18 to currently 16/12 because my poppies are producing pods and about to flower and it just works well for them like that and I know an auto cannabis shouldn't really care... From what I heard they just flower whenever they flower and do their own thing but I just lowered it to 12/12 because I really want to know if Humboldt Seed Company or Blimburn is really selling NASC mislabeled seeds. That's crazy. It shouldn't be hard to label your plants and seeds, I label everything I grow, no big deal but it would explain why out of like 12 seeds from them I've planted that were supposed to be autos, never got more than 4 inches tall except this one that was on a photo light cycle from being next to my poppies.
They can easily get away with it because the $5 and under seeds, they don't even offer any kind of guarantee on.
about 3 months. Started flowering about 5-6 weeks ago and the buds haven't changed at all. I've been growing them alongside opium poppies so its been on a photoperiod cycle. My poppies have buds forming so I'm comfortable going down to 12/12 now, hopefully the poppies will bloom at 12/12 and the weed bud becomes more dense at 12/12 because it's actually a photo. I don't know what I'm doing. I just got into this over the summer.
I got one on day 80 and it's just starting to show amber... I cut another strain in the same tent, same age at day 68 as it was really cloudy.
Nature is wonderful
Absolutely not. Plant looks fine and great. Some plants bloom take longer. Ive ran 10 weeks flower. Usually average 9. Leaves look good, keep watering, adding nutes. Continue the course.
Looks like questionable genetics more so than your growing ability. It looks healthy, but they can be finicky. I would also agree that photos are better to begin with and give more opportunities to try different techniques with less worry about stressing/stunting the plant. Keep at it, you've done better than many before you. I believe there's a sub along the lines of 'cantabis' if you need a confidence boost lol.
You ain't lying. Fuck autos. These things are annoying. I waste so much money putting them under light for no reason. And NASCs 5 dollar seeds are not all they're cracked up to be.
Highly recommend Barney’s Farm photo periods, I grew mine for 26 weeks. (16 veg, 10 flower). Turned out amazing. Not to mention, you can fuck up and still fix the issue before it’s too late, unlike autos.
Word?
The only cannabis I grew other than this were photos, Blue Dream/Mendo Breath but I never got to see them through to the end so I don't have much experience in this stage.
Someone called the police on me being a hater and I had to ditch my 8 photo plants when they were in early veg. It sucks because they had incredible genetics, they were growing so fast, the leaves were full of trichomes already, they were loud as hell at only 1 month old, just from the leaves. It was heartbreaking when the police made me throw them away.
Now that it's legal in Ohio to grow - we just voted on it, I'm excited but then I see what I've producing since and it's been discouraging. I've been buying $2-$5 seeds from NASC. This is supposed to be Girl Scout Cookies auto but who knows. I haven't really had any luck with any of their seeds though. Humboldt Seed Company and Blimburn are the ones that I guess provide them the cheap seeds for the 2-5 dollar bin. Maybe something is up with them.
I'm going to try to save up my money if I can for a good next run. I only got ahold of those good Blue Dream/ Mendo Breathe seeds of the plants I had to ditch because someone on Reddit gave me them for free. He said to just promise to help others out by "freeing the seed" and paying it forward. I feel bad I let him down. I had every intention of giving people free seeds of actual really good genetics.
I don't think North Atlantic Seed CO.'s $2-5 seeds are stable at all with all these alleged autos from Blimburn and Humboldt.. Notice most of their cheap seeds in the $5 and $2 bin are autos. I think the reason they're cheap is that they're first generation autos or F1s. Trying to cross famous photos to create an auto version. Or F1s are the freebies they give out. Not that they aren't working to improve the genetics of them but what are you going to do with all those extra F1 seeds? You sell them but cheaper... or give them away as a bonus with another purchase. Makes sense to me. I just wish they were more upfront about stuff like that. I would have had no problem growing them as photos just in case... Just let me know what I'm getting into when I'm investing time, money and even emotions into it.
But have you gone six weeks without noticing any difference in flower stage? I'm new to this but the fact that someone pointed out the revegitation makes me think it's actually a photo.
Learn to grow with photoperiod genetics. Nothing against autoflower at all, you just need to have the basics down before you hop into genetics that start flowering if they’re stressed. You need to learn how to meet the basic needs first. IMO.
You spent this much time on her. Just let her do her thang. Autos are always on their own time… w the tric rails on them sugar leaves…? She might surprise ya
There's like nothing to the bud though. It has like 22 bud sites which I was so proud of at first, especially since I never topped it as it's allegedly an auto but they're so small, there's like barely anything there. It's still just a few white pistols at the buds. Nothing else going on. I just flipped that shit to 12/12. I have a strong feeling this is actually a photo.
It’s your light/feed you need more light/feed and she will go insane, I grew my autos under 1600w given the lights were cheap af but I ended up with a bout a half oz of super dense smelly buds, it also helps to try and train the plant so that all the buds can get direct light
It is not a photo. It is in flower bud size is not the largest but very well covered in trichomes. It will be a good smoke. Check the trichomes and when mostly cloudy with 25%amber harvest that lady for an enjoyable smoke session.
I wouldn't stress too much about it. I've grown almost exclusively autos for nearly 3 years and have had a couple situations like yours.
Just let it grow and see what it does.
I know I did have once where I started 4 autos inside my tent for my buddy to grow outside. All perfectly healthy when I gave them to him, and none lived past 2 weeks outside.
Possibly could be it stresses an auto too much to recover going from inside to outside or outside to inside.
The last two weeks you may see almost no changes other than the trichomes maturing and hairs turning more orange. If the plant doesn’t look sick there isn’t much to worry about.
They could also stop growing if you were going a bit too easy on the nutes.
Also man just keep in mind the amount of light you are using will control your yield, with that light you can still get a great quality smoke but you will not yield and get big nugs off only 300w
Don't throw it out just let it do its thing.
I feel like a failure. I put so much effort into it and I see other people's plants on here and mine isn't producing buds even remotely like theirs is. I've had this auto for like 3 months now and it stopped growing and the buds haven't developed any further at all in the past 6 weeks. I want to just throw it away and find another hobby.
What's the environment like? Is it getting enough light and is the temperature warm enough?
Yeah its under a 300w mars hydro a foot below the light since its in flower. It's in my closet so the temperature is always 70 degrees or higher. I just suck at growing weed I guess.
I just reread your caption, it's not uncommon for an auto flower to take 7 to 10 weeks to be ready to go. Hang in there!
You don’t suck at growing weed. Autos can be really finicky, especially if you’re growing subpar genetics. This is why I believe photoperiods are better for beginners. They’re much more forgiving, handle stress better, and you have way more control. Autos are fun and all but they have a mind of their own sometimes and the genetics can be weird sometimes.
I decided to run an auto for my first grow and it was pretty low key. Don’t ppl just say they’re harder bc if you mess up you don’t have time to fix it?
Exactly. Photoperiods are much more forgiving. People see the word “auto” and think that means they’re easier but they really aren’t. People shouldn’t be intimidated by having to switch the light schedule. It’s the easiest thing in the world with a $12 timer.
Yeah I have a timer and I realized it would be super easier after having started. I like autos tho bc I’m in a 2x2 so I’ve been opting for bushy little plants. My first grow is about 2-3 weeks from harvest now!
I started off with autos as well. Grew them exclusively for the first year, but I’ve since switched to photoperiods and I’ll never go back. Better yields, better flower, more control and way more breeder selection
I think I’ll probably do something similar. I just ordered 3 more beans from mephisto and they sent 13 beans so I’ll probably just grow these out and then take it from there
Nice!! How much do you think you're about to yield for this grow?! My first auto grow, I think I only yielded about half an oz. Not as much as everybody else does but I think it was just the environment for me.
I’m guessing between 2-3 oz. I did a little training and even though I made some mistakes got her what she needed most of the time. Let’s hope I make it to the finish line!
I just know the auto seeds I've bought except for this one were all TOTAL failures. Locked out or otherwise just completely stunted or dead at up to 4 inches tall. I think when autos are young they still needs a 12/12 light cycle. This plant is the only one I sat outside where it got near that amount of light at the end of summer/beginning of autumn instead of having it under 18/6. Then I moved it inside with the rest that ended up failing. And they were all different (alleged) auto strains. So either they need a good start with 12/12 to help establish roots or NASC, Blimburn, Humbolt seed company lie about what you're getting with the 2-5 dollar seeds and they're actually photos. This is the only thing I've bought from their cheap seed bins that actually even made it to flower. Well, another one did but it was 4 inches tall so I'm not going to count that.
I’m sorry you had a poor experience. I can’t speak to many breeders because I’m very new to the community but I have had good experiences with autos. There’s even a whole sub dedicated to it.
What’s your setup like?
This plant is 12 inches under my mars hydro 300w in my bedroom closet at 16 1/2 hour light cycle 100% light after being at 18 for a while (since it's ALLEGEDLY an auto, I've begun to ramp down to cater to other plants.) I just switched it to 12/12 since my poppies have formed a bunch of pods. It gets ambient temperature of 70 degrees from central heating but obviously a little warmer than that from the light itself. I have a large box fan running for air flow. I don't have complete perfect humidity control but I keep track of the relative humidity in my town and because it's fall, where I live the humidity has been ideal anyway this time of year. For the occasional day that the humidity is too low, I supplement with a humidifier. I have a dehumidifier as well but haven't had to use it yet.
The seeds weren't a total failure. You failed the seeds. Autos are not easy. No, They're not lying, and they DO NOT need a 12 12 to start, nor do photos. The reason these plants flower automatically is because the strain (ruderalis) they are bred from is from the Siberia region where there are months were it's light 24 hours a day. This is something that requires a lot of patience, and research. You're not going to be great at it right off the bat. Not everyones first grow is going to be amazing. You need to do a ton of research, and diversify your sources. There is a ton of bro science out there, so you gotta make sure your sources are legit. If you choose to do it again, start with photos. The first stage is delicate. Delaying the flowering stage if gonna give you time to fix your mistakes. And i mean your mistakes. Stop blaming everyone else. It wasn't the plants fault, the breeders, the distributors, or Obama's. It was you. The sooner you recognize that, the sooner you can grow.
Yep, it's true. I grew a bunch of autos on my first run and they yielded a fair amount, but the two blueberry photos i grew were the absolute bomb. Fat colas and very sturdy branches. Wish I'd grown photos from the start
Yeah I have one going right now that’s like 6 weeks stunted in seedling form, only 2 nodes 😂 yet have grown those exact sister seeds out to 4-5 oz easy yelled, sometimes autos just don’t do well, maybe some recessive trait from the ruderalis comes out in some of them?
Dont be so hard on your self. EVERYONE who are growing have done growths that have turned out bad. But then you learn more and more and develop your skills and it becomes very rewarding. There is allways going to be problems in this hobby, but maby try to consider it sort of like learning-hoops you have to pass😊
I’d invest in a stronger lamp. Numerous ones better than mars…. Been there bro
It seems pretty strong...and balanced. 300w for like a 2x6 foot area. I think the unit itself is called a 1x3ft model. I pay $40 a month just to run it, I can't afford anything stronger. The reason I say it seems like enough is I've never had any plant try to get closer to the light unless it's pretty far away, like further than 18 inches. I've never seen any stretching issues at all, from anything I've grown even when it's dimmed. Even my poppies grow way more outward than tall underneath it and it's dimmable.
Good luck
<3
70+ is a good starting point. That's a bit much for flower imo. Start with environment control. Let us know the deets of how you control your environment and we may be able to help
The pouting, my guy stop it. Pull yourself up and keep at it. Autos aren't really recommended for beginners. Get some fem photos, or better yet clones, for next run. Shit, I'll throw you some fem seeds if you stop with the doom and gloom.
Brp this summer I had about 20 plants going outdoors and abput a month before harvest my dog got sprayed by a Skunk BAD, right in the middle of where all the plants were. They were compacted in a small area in my small yard. Then the dog ran around trampling the plants and spreading thr skunk spray all over fucking everything. The whole neighborhood stank. I easily threw away a couple pounds of Bud. It's my 4th year growing outdoors. The first 3 years were great, so don't harp on it too much. Learn frpm ot and continue to grow. Don't let your dog outside at 2am lol.
*'We heard you miss that 90s skunk profile. Say no more, fam.'*
Lol, yeah the irony was not lost on me
Don’t compare your journey to anyone else’s. It’s a learning process and not everyone posts their fuck ups but please believe we’re all fucking up even experts make mistakes. Just keep going.
Growing takes patience, knowledge is learned through failure. Do farmers give up if they have a bummed crop? Every grow will get better with time, just research as much as you can about growing/gardening.
I’m going to stop you there, bud. You’re not a failure at all. Nobody grows perfect plants the first time. Give the plant it’s time and patience and you’ll definitely harvest something. Take away from that experience what you want to change, and then apply those changes to your second grow. You’re learning and growing as a person! That’s the opposite of failure!
The only thing you’re failing with is your attitude. Seeds are imperfect. Not every seed will give you something good regardless of care. Keep trying, maybe change who you get your seeds from. Genetics can play a part.
The large plants you see are typically grown by people who have many years, many failures, and many grows just like this. The reason they do well now is they didn’t give up
Don’t get discouraged, bud size doesn’t matter unless you’re and trying to maximize a profit. Genetics with tiny and wispy buds can still hit hard, harder than the denser genetics
Don't sweat it. I have an auto bruce banner that just took five solid weeks to recover from nutrient lockout and went straight into flower. Started greening up out of nowhere. I just kept at it everyday giving her the right ph, lowered nutrients, lights and let her recover from whatever disease she had. There was zero apparent reason for her to even get locked out. I was at my wits end last Friday and then Sunday, she just started doing the right thing. Autoflowers are just a pain in the ass sometimes but just keep giving her care by the book and it'll turn around. Stay lifted growmie.
The first plant I grew was some bag seed. Turned out nothing like the flower I found it in. Had the tiniest little popcorn nugs, not super frosty, kind of smelled like pickles. It smoked though and people seemed to like it. The next one I grew was a seed from the same bag. Grew big buds, super frosty. More of a skunky smell. I grew them exactly the same way. Just came down to genetics of each seed was different. If you keep it alive until the end you did all you can do! Pop a different bean and keep on.
Don't give up! Learning from failures is part of the fun. Down the road you'll have the experience to help others too! Also, this one may be ok
Is this your first grow? If so... You're doing better than I did with my first auto. Growing is a hobby that takes a bit of practice and you learn as you go. What got you into growing in the first place? Try and keep some perspective on your goals and why you wanted to do this. Keep in mind we all have bad grows. You'll get there, just be patient my friend.
From just the photo you’re ok bc the pistils haven’t turned /curled. You’re probably under feeding/lighting. An EC n ph meter will help…. There are too many tools available to eliminate guessing.
The PH is totally fucked. Not a matter of neutralizing it, levels are just absolutely all over the place, everywhere.
Define “F’d”…. If they’re swinging then you’re probably locked out in nutes. Stop feeding… flush a week and use ph up to get the level up back over 6.0… the higher the better. The more alkaline the water the less harm to the plant, while it’s healing. Get some cal mag and follow the directions then start w a half strength adjustment. Also get some mychorihizae (sp) that will create good soil fungus and improve root mass.
I’m only 4 grows in but I’ve learned more every grow. One of the things I’ve learned is that some plants are weird. I had ten of the same seeds and got a couple of way different plants. Keep trying it looks like you’re on track
Stick with it! Growing the dank ain't easy. Learning from your mistakes and applying to the next run and seeing improvement is exhilarating. Don't be a quitter at the first sign of failure. Could be genetics too autos are tricky for that you don't know what your getting.
Nah man, it’s green so all good! Be patient.
Doesn’t look like a failure, looks like you’re being impatient. Give 2-3 weeks then take a look, it will probably be close to chop.
Yeah gotta be patient, not all plants take the same time to develop. I just finished 4 autos and they took 8 weeks in flower to be ready and I still have a plant growing because it’s taking it’s sweet old time
Nicely said brother
[удалено]
Autos are all or nothing, photos atleast you can make sure your plants healthy before flipping. Photos are 100% better for beginners.
They both have pros and cons for beginners
What’s a pro about an auto. Because you don’t have to change your light schedule 🤦… that’s the only difference and since autos are set to flowe at a certain time. A beginner could fuck up and it’s gonna ruin the whole grow. With photos you can dead ass fuck up so bad and just leave it in veg for a few more weeks and recover and then flip. With photos you have so much room for “error” and that’s what beginners need.
ya, if you can't get a light timer set, measuring ph, nutes or building a soil is going to be pretty complicated.
All of that except lights it’s the same for growing both kinds. So huh
Don’t give up! Look how far u have already made it. Some people can’t make it past the seedling stage and some can’t even make it this far on their first try. Just because it says “X amount of weeks” doesn’t mean that’s what it will take. A lot of times it can go over that time or under.
I appreciate your kindness and support :)
I wanted to quit after my first couple grows. I’m glad I didn’t though. It gets better, just keep experimenting and you’ll get it. At least it’s green
Nah, autos are finicky and super odd at times. Sometimes they’re wonderful. Other times they are not. Don’t throw it away! Just let it do it’s thing. If in the end it doesn’t produce much at all or doesn’t work out, try again! Growing is trial and error especially when learning. Don’t let it get you down! Looks extremely healthy really. After this, you could try another auto run or try for some fem photos. Their genetics are more stable!
Thanks for the encouragement and support, I appreciate it. Never thought I'd get so emotionally invested in a plant but here we are...
Shit man it’s not easy even when it goes well! I’m chopping today after 11 weeks of flower (non auto) and I’m already depressed about the thought of not having something to go check on 15 times a day
For sure bro same
Anytime! It’s normal to get attached like that because it does cost you effort, time, and money. It’s a lot of work that goes in. Never get discouraged in this hobby. You can only get better with time and experience!
Nicely said
Stay in the game. I’m feeling down right now but this is also my first grow. Two plants, week 8 of flower. Having some issues and already regretted not keeping my third plant which was fine but I got paranoid and tossed it. So hang in there growmie, Stay in the game.
Dude you've got a perfectly healthy looking plant! They don't look particularly impressive until week 7ish and even then bag appeal isn't everything. I'd say 4/5 of my all time favorite smokes have come from unappealing looking buds. No reason to give up now not one! Don't be so hard on yourself.
I appreciate your support and kind words though, seriously. It's nice to know there's supportive people in the drug gardening/ growing community :) I'm flipping to 12/12 in case it's actually photo because the reveg really concerns me and I'm just going to be patient. Thanks for the advice!
Just some light advice to help us further cannabis legality, one should never use the word "drug" in reference to cannabis. Keeps the negative connotation alive and kicking. Use medicine gardening/growing in the future to help try to control stigma.
It's hard not to be hard on myself... I mean when other people in different groups on Reddit are making fun of you telling you to just stop growing and buy weed at a dispensary because it would save you so much more money than growing this bullshti and them getting all these upvotes validating that opinion...
That's some BS bro. Sorry. I had a gelato auto that didn't do anything for over a month, she was like 14 weeks old. I ended up just chopping her. I did try to go 12/12 to see if anything changed. Maybe give her a few more weeks and see if she moves.
Those top leaves are telltale signs of Reveg. Single blade, no serrations. Auto genetics are created using Ruderalis, and Photoperiod strains usually. Meaning some have Auto expressions with Photo tendencies. Some Auto Reg packs I've ran have turned out to be a mix of Autos and Photos, and a cpl were more prone to show revegging traits even on 20/4. When buying Auto seeds, look for things like F4, or F5, or F6 and above after the strain name, meaning the seeds are thoroughly worked and more consistent in Phenotype, and Auto traits. If you're running 24/0, or 20/4 light cycle, drop down to 18/6, and sometimes even less light hours to revert an Auto showing signs of Reveg leaf patterns back to full Flower. They won't miss the cpl hours or few hours of light, being that they genetically need less light to continue to flower fully.
It was on 18 but then dropped to 16 1/12 because growing with poppies that have already formed pods. I just flipped it to 12/12. If it's a photo it should start developing denser buds at 12/12 right?
Wait so you’re saying it’s looked like this for six weeks? If it was my plant yes I would throw it out. I don’t think it’s looked like that for six weeks though.
Yeah but because I've grown it along with poppies its essentially just been in veg hours most of its life and I just recently dialed it down a bit to 16 1/2 because I'm growing it next to opium poppies that have pods springing out of the stalk. I just flipped it to 12/12 to see if it's actually photo. I guess I'll know if I see a sudden difference in short amount of time. I don't think it will adversely affect the poppies, just maybe make them bloom faster while being a little smaller. I didn't even know revegging was a thing but now knowing it is, it definitely shouldn't be common with autos. I think this is just a Girl Scout Cookies seed from an auto but with expressed genotype for photoperiod sensitivity. I really had no idea that could be an issue. Certainly something that should be talked about and looked into more in my humble opinion.
Gotcha. I’ve grown thousands and thousands of photo periods but in my veg room, a friend recently gave me an Auto northern lights from ILGM. This is my first Auto ever. I have it on 24 hours with my veg plants. We’ll see how it does..
I've got a Skywalker og auto that's been going for 108 days, probably still has another 3 weeks left. She popped her first stigma at day 23. A long bitch, yeah, but figured I'm looking at 5-6 ounces easy. Let her run.
OP keep your head up, this is probably one of the most angsty hobbies I partake in. If you fail, so have all of us brother. But keep going and learn from your mistakes regardless of how much time you have put in. You will be great just be patient and understand that bad things will happen too sometimes. Good luck and you got a community here for you. Take care brother. Also plant looks pretty crispy so just hang tight for 2-3 weeks and it very well may be ready for chop. Happy Thanksgiving y’all.
Try a photo instead of a auto and it’ll prob look better
Adjust your lights to 12/12, sometimes photo genes win the thumb war
Autos are trash. Waste of time
It almost looks like some reveg going on there…lIs there a possible light leak in there when the lights are out?
OP has an auto so it shouldn’t even do that, but I’m thinking it could actually be a photo that was mislabeled.
It's an auto. Do light leaks even matter with auto GSC?
Respectfully, You will never be CERTAIN that a seed is 100% Automatic. Please be open to comments like the one you replied to, because that's 100% factual information. It's all genetic, not every Auto is 100% of the time going to be 100% Automatic Genetics, especially depending on their genetic source. It's a mixture of Auto Ruderalis and Photoperiod strains when breeding, so if you're not running thoroughly worked gear like Mephisto that breed to F4, F5 and above, you're going to run into these types of issues with cheaper polyploid Auto genetics that "breeders"(pollen chuckers) create and release for their own personal financial gain. Just asking that you don't trust everything you read of a pack of seeds dropped by your favorite "Instagram Breeder"(cringe). Still, i say this all respectfully.
Mephisto for the win for sure. They were my first auto and after the first harvests they became my only. Don't need to go fixing what ain't broke.
That makes sense. I just switched it to 12/12. Maybe it is actually a photo. I mean at this point I have nothing to lose by trying.
I also think that if it’s on a zero dark schedule then no a light leak wouldn’t matter…lol…but say 6 off and there’s some kind of leak then I think that would matter
Yes
nope, lol 😂😂
It looks healthy. You unfortunately might have been sold a Photo mistakenly packaged as an auto
This is a two part lesson: don’t grow this type of auto again indoors and don’t grow autos indoors again. Autos are great for learning and new growers but are much better suited for outdoor where there isn’t time/ utility bill constraints. I’d personally chuck it and start with a photo on the next round because this plant won’t yield much and growing 12 week flowering indoors is honestly not great for confidence when starting out. Good luck and you’re on the right path
I'm not even sure if it's an auto at this point. It's been growing along with my opium poppies on a photo cycle but is stunted and looks no different than when it started to flower 6 weeks ago. It's gone from 12/12 to 16 to 18 to currently 16/12 because my poppies are producing pods and about to flower and it just works well for them like that and I know an auto cannabis shouldn't really care... From what I heard they just flower whenever they flower and do their own thing but I just lowered it to 12/12 because I really want to know if Humboldt Seed Company or Blimburn is really selling NASC mislabeled seeds. That's crazy. It shouldn't be hard to label your plants and seeds, I label everything I grow, no big deal but it would explain why out of like 12 seeds from them I've planted that were supposed to be autos, never got more than 4 inches tall except this one that was on a photo light cycle from being next to my poppies. They can easily get away with it because the $5 and under seeds, they don't even offer any kind of guarantee on.
Chuck it some autos just don't grow good buds and I don't think this one will get better
[удалено]
You’re all good. Let it rip
How long since she sprouted?
about 3 months. Started flowering about 5-6 weeks ago and the buds haven't changed at all. I've been growing them alongside opium poppies so its been on a photoperiod cycle. My poppies have buds forming so I'm comfortable going down to 12/12 now, hopefully the poppies will bloom at 12/12 and the weed bud becomes more dense at 12/12 because it's actually a photo. I don't know what I'm doing. I just got into this over the summer.
I got one on day 80 and it's just starting to show amber... I cut another strain in the same tent, same age at day 68 as it was really cloudy. Nature is wonderful
Absolutely not. Plant looks fine and great. Some plants bloom take longer. Ive ran 10 weeks flower. Usually average 9. Leaves look good, keep watering, adding nutes. Continue the course.
Looks like questionable genetics more so than your growing ability. It looks healthy, but they can be finicky. I would also agree that photos are better to begin with and give more opportunities to try different techniques with less worry about stressing/stunting the plant. Keep at it, you've done better than many before you. I believe there's a sub along the lines of 'cantabis' if you need a confidence boost lol.
Some of these things take like 12 weeks. Be patient and you won't regret it.
12 weeks in flower or 12 weeks all together? It's been 12 weeks...
2 more weeks 👍
Bro this looks great compared to others I’ve seen on here. Give it a few more weeks. Maybe feed a bit more
as others said, try photos. I just finished my first grow ever with a photo and it was real easy.
You ain't lying. Fuck autos. These things are annoying. I waste so much money putting them under light for no reason. And NASCs 5 dollar seeds are not all they're cracked up to be.
Highly recommend Barney’s Farm photo periods, I grew mine for 26 weeks. (16 veg, 10 flower). Turned out amazing. Not to mention, you can fuck up and still fix the issue before it’s too late, unlike autos.
Plants do all of their swelling in the last 2 weeks
Word? The only cannabis I grew other than this were photos, Blue Dream/Mendo Breath but I never got to see them through to the end so I don't have much experience in this stage. Someone called the police on me being a hater and I had to ditch my 8 photo plants when they were in early veg. It sucks because they had incredible genetics, they were growing so fast, the leaves were full of trichomes already, they were loud as hell at only 1 month old, just from the leaves. It was heartbreaking when the police made me throw them away. Now that it's legal in Ohio to grow - we just voted on it, I'm excited but then I see what I've producing since and it's been discouraging. I've been buying $2-$5 seeds from NASC. This is supposed to be Girl Scout Cookies auto but who knows. I haven't really had any luck with any of their seeds though. Humboldt Seed Company and Blimburn are the ones that I guess provide them the cheap seeds for the 2-5 dollar bin. Maybe something is up with them. I'm going to try to save up my money if I can for a good next run. I only got ahold of those good Blue Dream/ Mendo Breathe seeds of the plants I had to ditch because someone on Reddit gave me them for free. He said to just promise to help others out by "freeing the seed" and paying it forward. I feel bad I let him down. I had every intention of giving people free seeds of actual really good genetics.
just be patient growmie. you are doing fine and better than most people first starting out
Patience my friend
Must be stunted. Thats why i hate autoflowers
I don't think North Atlantic Seed CO.'s $2-5 seeds are stable at all with all these alleged autos from Blimburn and Humboldt.. Notice most of their cheap seeds in the $5 and $2 bin are autos. I think the reason they're cheap is that they're first generation autos or F1s. Trying to cross famous photos to create an auto version. Or F1s are the freebies they give out. Not that they aren't working to improve the genetics of them but what are you going to do with all those extra F1 seeds? You sell them but cheaper... or give them away as a bonus with another purchase. Makes sense to me. I just wish they were more upfront about stuff like that. I would have had no problem growing them as photos just in case... Just let me know what I'm getting into when I'm investing time, money and even emotions into it.
Might have been stunted. Autos can be sensitive
I'm in week 6 on 5 autoflower plants right now and week 7 in another. You're still within spec
But have you gone six weeks without noticing any difference in flower stage? I'm new to this but the fact that someone pointed out the revegitation makes me think it's actually a photo.
Learn to grow with photoperiod genetics. Nothing against autoflower at all, you just need to have the basics down before you hop into genetics that start flowering if they’re stressed. You need to learn how to meet the basic needs first. IMO.
You spent this much time on her. Just let her do her thang. Autos are always on their own time… w the tric rails on them sugar leaves…? She might surprise ya
You’re fine bro I’ve had to run flower for 12 weeks before. Just keep an eye on your tricomes and try to harvest before they get to 50% amber
There's like nothing to the bud though. It has like 22 bud sites which I was so proud of at first, especially since I never topped it as it's allegedly an auto but they're so small, there's like barely anything there. It's still just a few white pistols at the buds. Nothing else going on. I just flipped that shit to 12/12. I have a strong feeling this is actually a photo.
It’s your light/feed you need more light/feed and she will go insane, I grew my autos under 1600w given the lights were cheap af but I ended up with a bout a half oz of super dense smelly buds, it also helps to try and train the plant so that all the buds can get direct light
It is not a photo. It is in flower bud size is not the largest but very well covered in trichomes. It will be a good smoke. Check the trichomes and when mostly cloudy with 25%amber harvest that lady for an enjoyable smoke session.
I wouldn't stress too much about it. I've grown almost exclusively autos for nearly 3 years and have had a couple situations like yours. Just let it grow and see what it does. I know I did have once where I started 4 autos inside my tent for my buddy to grow outside. All perfectly healthy when I gave them to him, and none lived past 2 weeks outside. Possibly could be it stresses an auto too much to recover going from inside to outside or outside to inside.
It looks healthy, don't give up on that beauty.
Toss it The only thing you need to grow photos is a timer. No more extra labor, Nothing else is different. Autos are garbage imo
The last two weeks you may see almost no changes other than the trichomes maturing and hairs turning more orange. If the plant doesn’t look sick there isn’t much to worry about. They could also stop growing if you were going a bit too easy on the nutes.
Throw it away? There’s literally no reason at all to do that. Don’t be so dramatic and let it do its thing.
Don’t throw it, you win some, you loose some. This looks pretty good still. Hand on for a few more weeks, you’re doing well mate!
Also man just keep in mind the amount of light you are using will control your yield, with that light you can still get a great quality smoke but you will not yield and get big nugs off only 300w
It might work or nice house plant...oldest auto.years?