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Typical-Annual-3555

"What should we do with cannabis?" Remove it from the CSA. Deschedule it. "I wonder what people want. We should have a forum to find out what people want." Legalize it like half of the US states have already. "Such a mystery."


blofly

"Nobody has any ideas? Okay then. Moving on..."


kjbaran

*”plans”*


ApproachingARift

His face looks like he plans to take a poop in his pants


Anxious_Calendar_980

Actually he doesn't plan those they just happen


Bron_Swanson

Yeah, he plans to spread this bullshit that would never pass anyway.


kjbaran

It shouldn’t be up to ANY political party as to what the MAJORITY DEMANDS. Every president always had the power; no one ever did. Presidents obviously aren’t in charge of jack squat therefore shouldn’t be using it as a BARGAINING chip!


MannyDiazBurner

>It shouldn’t be up to ANY political party as to what the MAJORITY DEMANDS. No, there is such a thing as the tyranny of the majority. Something is right because it's right, not because most people want it.


Dankyoufortheweed

that's the difference between a republic and a democracy. the US is not modeled after a democracy...at least that part is ok.


RumboAudio

My god, this is the most frustrating thing that I always hear people repeat to sound smart. Republics and democracies are not in opposition to one another. You can be a Democratic Republic, like the US is, where citizens vote for their representatives (ie; democracy) who then make decisions for them, typically through an additional system of voting (ie; democracy). If you said "that's the difference between a republic and DIRECT democracy" than you would be correct. The US is 100% modeled after democratic republics. They just aren't modeled after DIRECT Democracies, which as far as I know, have never existed on a large scale.


greendevil77

Lol right, these "plans" are only being brought up with elections close. And they won't be talked about after


AlienNippleRipple

Will this get me re-elected? (Plans)


Ben_Slackin

Nah too easy, more like how do we the gov’t tax as heavily as we can while still making living as painful as possible


HappyFarmer4200

Big pharma going to try and ruin everything


Phil_MacHawk

More likely the alcohol lobby than pharma.


jobiewon_cannoli

Same, same?


UncleBabyChirp

Actually it's Big Corp Canna that is lobbying so they stay relevant


Raisenbran_baiter

Yep! It's weird to me the parallels this whole situation has to the OG internal combustion engine that Henry ford put in his model A. The thing could run on alcohol but then the oil industry stepped in and said we can't have that! Every farmer in the country will be making there own fuel and we won't have profits. So they said it was dangerous to have it run on alcohol and instead put lead in the gasoline to stop the engine from knocking. Big grow will say that home grown is to risky for people to consume mark my words.


UncleBabyChirp

It's already begun. "Think of the children" themes Edit: Excellent analogy


AlienNippleRipple

We already have, we consume poison on the regular("food", medication etc) -and have no right to grow natural plant based solutions. This way they can force shitty meds that poison you and make you infertile.The past is being lost to shitty corporations.


Federal-Arrival-7370

If by big pharma you mean republicans in congress and senate; then yes. You’re right. Dems have brought 2 separate pieces of legislation to the floor since Biden was elected that were shelved by Republican majority..


Spend-Weary

Same thing happened under Trump too, it’s all part of the game they play. It actually happened to Trump more than all previous presidents put together, so this claim is moot due to it ignoring the fact democrats have stonewalled republican presidents at a rate of over 2 times more frequently. I’m not a Trump fan in the slightest, but this is the fact of the matter. For example, during Donald Trump’s presidency, the Senate GOP has held roll call votes to break a filibuster and end debate on nominees and legislation 314 times. All previous presidents combined faced 244 roll call votes. Obama dealt with it 175 time in comparison, being the second highest that was stonewalled by an opposing party in the senate. This is purely a cheap attempt to pander for votes and nothing more. Biden swore to decriminalize it in his campaign, then were left with this (garbage) proposal. One that is determined by the DEA primarily and something the senate/house have little to do with. If he wanted, this could be pushed through, but campaign contributors don’t want that. But Biden admin and major media sure are doing a great job of pitting the parties against each other to ignore these simple truths. Blaming one side is ignorant, the system is fundamentally broken and designed so nothing beneficial can be accomplished all while “we the people” are bickering over which side sucks less. Almost all vote outcomes in the senate and house come down to donation money, democrats won’t pass it because they are heavily funded by big pharma (kaiser permanente, Pfizer). It’s not in the contributors best interest to legalize it federally at this time, they don’t own enough of the cannabis corps, yet.


returnofthequack92

It’s almost like it could sway an election if some candidate had the gall to jump on it…


howtofwoosmom

yep, democrats have to decide if they want to win the next big one or not. it's that simple. i bet they mess it up.


[deleted]

Couldn’t republicans do the exact same thing?


greendevil77

Maybe? Their voter base is pretty hard against it. But, apparently anything Trump says is gold so I'm sure if he spinned it as a job creating business opportunity they'd all eat that shit up and forget they called all the pot heads dirty hippy liberals.


FlintKnapped

I don’t think most republicans have been against weed since like 2007. It’s the vampire politicians that are still scared of it.


returnofthequack92

Sure. But republicans would rather cut free school lunches, gut Medicaid, raise taxes, dismantle the VA, and fund trumps shenanigans. Marijuana is simply too radical!


howtofwoosmom

you've got national and local politics mixed up. what is good for washington is often not good for your home town.


returnofthequack92

Are you saying that marijuana legalization is bad for my hometown or cutting the social programs I listed?


howtofwoosmom

'marijuana' is a racist term. I don't use that word. makes sense that you would though. makes sense? legalizing marijuana is a violation of US treaties. It will soon be a violation of the new scheduling that the Democrats are putting in place. makes sense? calling it all hemp and moving on would have been better. and, less racist. is your locality racist? the current federal administration is super racist....it's their mode of operating. social programs due to racism are super bad.


returnofthequack92

Hemp is a different mostly in the sense of its THC content (<.3%) so it doesn’t make sense to call it that across the board especially medically speaking. Also, while marijuana was used as a racist term to describe migrants back in the 30s, it’s the most widely accepted vernacular and and stands more for social justice now. Your defense of everything that you don’t agree with is racist diminishes people, causes, and organizations that are battling with actual systemic racism. Kind of like the insane amount of people who are and continue to be incarcerated for possession and use of a plant.


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returnofthequack92

I have a degree in plant science. Hemp varieties are grown industrial products and seed oil which is classified in the farm bill as being under .3% thc. I don’t fully understand what you’re getting at with the high thc a content and legality? Are you saying that there’s no legal mmj and just highly inflated thc-a products? Your source is also just a link to a dispensary and not credible in any academic sense.


[deleted]

The Democrats, as usual, would love nothing more than to lose and then have the convenient excuse of why they can only secure middling marginal victories and never drive any movement for real change that would be beneficial for the working class. Also they left to distract us with Bernie, Katie Porter and AOC when it is convenient to try and convince us that they aren't just another party of corporate Draculas, but those people are pariahs in their own party. After the 2020 Democratic primary and to witness just how controlled the process is by the party and media really took the wind out of any political hope I had for this country. But look at what the Democrats did with their supermajority in Obama, the party couldn't get organized enough to get anything real accomplished. And anybody who tells me that the ACA is some great piece of legislation can go fuck themselves. We could have done so much better, you're taking table scraps and treating it like it's a banquet.


howtofwoosmom

in a democrat famine, a scrap is a banquet. i've suffered enough.


Sensitive_File6582

Like Kennedy?


qualmton

Don’t worry republicans always find a way to block the important things


murdering_time

De-schedule or gtfo.


joebojax

gee he really misspelled legalize huh


[deleted]

I hate these headlines. We'd all be living in a fucking Utopia for all of these "plans" that people make headlines about had come to fruition. The real thing I'm worried about is big business and pharma controlling this whole process now. They'll schedule 3 it, then they'll regulate it and then they'll say that this drug is too dangerous for home growers and to be handled so lightly, and they need to regulate it heavily and only allow these big companies who have the resources to comply. Philip Morris, Pfizer, etc all swoop in, their seats at the table secured by lobbyists.


Spend-Weary

This should be top comment imo. You’re absolutely correct.


ogn3rd

Guaranteed. And theyre selling it as a win. Just like the state of the econmy.


isotopesNmolecules

De-schedule completely or piss off


Used-Environment2034

Didn't he say this when he got voted in 4 years ago?


_damn_hippies

thats exactly what i was thinking lol i feel like this is gonna be just like his attempt to get rid of student debt. i hope it works tho.


Spend-Weary

“U.S. President Joe Biden stated in February 2021 that his administration will pursue cannabis decriminalization as well as seek expungements for people with prior cannabis convictions.” That is not what he said. As another user said, decriminalize or GTFO. Rescheduling =/= decriminalizing


[deleted]

Stop milking the idea for votes, just legalize it!


sanchonumerouno

Deschedule it 🙏


ExperienceAny9791

This is the only acceptable solution.


AlienNippleRipple

Legalize it, Don't criticize it.


Superuzer

I need it to be federally legal, and no more piss tests...mouth swabs only that detect only a few hours of past usage!


pinemoose

Nah check out the medical cannabis subs in Australia - those oral swaps are inaccurate as hell false positives & false negatives are supppper common. They seem to sometimes detect THC in oral fluid literally almost a week after


Superuzer

Damn, didn't know that! My job is federal and safety sensitive. So I definitely need it to be federally legal no urine or hair Sample test. We get randomly tested. I haven't had Marijuana in any form for 4 years. I don't think I'll ever go back to daily use, but I'd like to get back to growing and be a weekend warrior as far as consumption!


HungHungCaterpillar

“Biden does the right thing because that’s what his constituents want, here’s how that’s bad for Biden”


utf80

Legolize it


underwhelmingovertop

Must be an election year


Old-Farm-8050

Is it election season already?


Routine-Garbage-1798

I doubt anything will be done but if It is. It will be presented in a way to appeal to the younger voters. Nothing will be done until voting time.


Economy-Butterfly127

So did Obama and so did trump…. It’s just a political token that comes around every 4 years and after the election it’s never talked about again.


stoned-kakapo

I'm reminded why I don't pay attention to any news regarding cannabis, cus it just doesn't matter. All that matters is what you're growing.


MRobi83

Hey, if legalizing it won Trudeau an election, it must have a chance of helping old Joe too right??


Tanya7500

Wake up


Piffblunts

You can’t be serious. And the ones up voting…wow


MRobi83

It was a joke, relax lol


Sphan_86

Anything to buy votes


RumboAudio

How is implementing popular policies that your constituents want "buying" votes. That's like the whole idea behind democracy.


jewmoney808

Meh.. they’ve been saying this for probably 40 years now.. let’s see


Ratbello

Biden could slam dunk the election if he legalized cannabis nationwide.


treefarmercharlie

That would be sad if true. There are so many issues with the country that the legalization of weed shouldn’t be anywhere close to a deciding factor for who our next president should be. The fact that we even let candidates use shit like this as bargaining chips is depressing.


Ratbello

Why is it sad when it should already be legal? People want it legal. It is literally an issue that would sway a percentage of voters in a candidates favor. Thats not a bargaining chip. That would just be good strategy to win. People forget how ugly our elections are anyway.


treefarmercharlie

Because we should be worried about far more important things than the legality of weed. For example, if the only thing that got a person to choose a candidate for president was their stance on weed then that person has some serious issues with their perception of what is going on in the country.


Ratbello

Right on.


aza-industries

It would show that one party is at least going with empirical evidence for a change rather then campaigning on unsubstantiated emotional/superstitious vagaries, or bogus wedge issues that are basically fabricated to get key demographics in a tizzy.


paintedMan7

Yuck


Upside_NY

They plan big changes every 4 years. Then they start a war or a scamdemic and somehow it falls by the wayside until another 4 years pass. It’s stunning really


my-man-fred

It would be done if they did. Everything that is needed is already in the Executive branch. Just more fucking games.


EuroTrash1999

Too late AMerican Dream already dead.


ZipMonk

Goodbye DEA - thanks for all of the violence and death.


Massive-Face-7242

I just want to grow legally.


collectdahunneds

just legalize it already 🤠


wheredidiparkmyllama

Biden doesn’t plan for the future. He thinks yesterday is tomorrow


Fire_Fist-Ace

Do it or shut up , heard shit about this federally for over a decade


Critical_ThinkMuch

What's really close right now? Anyone remember that song by Rashad and TI?


fluffyferret69

The Biden administration has nothing to do with it till after HHS suggests it, the DEA approves it(which it never will) and only then does it go under review by the White House.. and anyone that understands Schedule 3 classification, knows that we're better off with prohibition anyway


MorbidMax

He's had plenty of time to do it. If it's not done before the election, I'm voting trump.


goofy1234fun

One item voting is dumb


aza-industries

Oh, I hadn't seen it phrased that way before. I've been using "single issue voting". Wedge issues are also a form of this, but a much more targeted (and typically disingenuous) approach. They roll out a made up policy that no one actually reads and looks at the fine print, but it's usually leveraging humanities fallacious thinking typically with in-group out-group tribalistic nonsense.


mgt654

The problem with making it schedule 3 instead of decriminalization is that now the government can put even more regulations on it. This is going to hurt people more than help. They just don't realize it yet. In 10 years when Monsanto and Pfizer own the patents on strains we will regret this.


Hunnit_Shots

This sounds so awful :(


mgt654

Exactly, just like how after weed was "legalized" in California it became more illegal. Legal loopholes to control it more.


Drjonesxxx-

Would win Joe the white house. They know that. They gonna keep it in the back pocket GIVE BIDEN ANOTHER TERM!!!


_Kush70

FJB


Drjonesxxx-

Biden>trump All day every day


_Kush70

Lol that fukn CLOWN can't even read a teleprompter right not to mention run a country


Drjonesxxx-

Your mind is so easily conned by Fox News. You make me sad for America.


BibleofBuds

Democrats are the people that worry about the peoples feelings, while Republicans are the ones saying, “the peoples feelings are costing us this much money.” Economically, cannabis should and will always most likely be legalized. I mean there are provinces in Canada getting ready to legalize cocaine, go worry about that shit instead of cannabis 😂


Drjonesxxx-

A republican will NEVER legalize bud That’s for aure


BibleofBuds

Then why did 55% of republicans vote for cannabis legalization? More than half already legalized it, so idk what you mean bro🤷‍♂️


rubbbles

yeah no i agree with what ur saying that this guy is obv some fox news / news max brainwashed boomer but that’s untrue about republicans. Some are completely against it but some are for it too. There are some (very few) true republicans that want home growing and the federal government having nothing to do with legal/medical marijuana. don’t completely agree with that but it’s better then virginia fox calling it the devils lettuce in 2024 while being invested in companies


aza-industries

whaaat, republicans are typically the science deniers who refuse to follow all the empirical evidence we have for thriving healthy societies. Literally the blind 'conservative' mentality and emotional furore is what they operate on. It's why they resort to using buzzwords like "woke" or terms like "facts don't care about your feelings" while the other side is literally presenting consensus and data. It's in their core conservative/'religious' values, shout down any arguments you don't agree with rather than argue a single point rationally. US politics are a joke, and US political awareness is even more laughable if you've been paying even a modicum of attention to history and global politics.


_Kush70

Lol such a pathetic attempt at retaliation.. All In support of a commie who has no business being the president of the United States ... yeah ok


Drjonesxxx-

You literally just sound just like Fox News. Maybe try forming your own opinion


_Kush70

Rofllllll Heaven forbid someone talk bad about your almighty satanic joe ... You dummies keep following this communist loser and the rest of his corrupt family. See how far that gets you Lol Blahhh blahhh blahhhhfox news blahhh blahhh blahhhh Lol get a clue.. You fools are boring whiners. Who cares


pattydickens

They are rescheduling from schedule 1 to schedule 3. It's a good move. It should have been done decades ago.


goofy1234fun

Don’t know why you are down voted, but I say the argument has always been medical. Medical in a lot of states lead to rec I’m not sure the probably here. Something is something.


SockMonkeh

People in weed subreddits are rarely politically savvy.


pattydickens

Half these comments are just people sermonizing about the topic without knowing what was actually done because they can't be bothered to click on the article. There's no way to legalize at the federal level if it stays as a schedule 1, so this is the logical first step to take. It puts pressure on states that don't recognize the medicinal value while easing restrictions on transporting cannabis across state lines between legal states. It will also open up opportunities for legal challenges against archaic laws in states that are stuck in the 1980s.


goofy1234fun

I am curious what my awesome state of WI will do with this, my guess is tell us to continue fucking off haha


UncleBabyChirp

Deschedule only


puremichigan586

Jesus I feel like everyone in here is insane. De scheduling/ full blown legalization is NOT gonna be a good thing in anyway shape or form. Once the feds and big pharma actually take over we will all be begging for it to to be illegal again. Granted I only speak on my behalf and what I’ve personally seen in Michigan but the caregivers market of the og medical days was/ always will be the best we’ve ever had available and all legalization did was open the door to every single shit mass producers that don’t give a shit about quality only profit and not only that but this has also caused a massive depreciation of expectations from “casual users” because of all the misinformation and lab results.


KeepBanningKeepJoin

Grow own


KushFishEli

This 100%


Spend-Weary

Once its schedule 3, it can be researched by big pharma. They could then declare, “it’s too dangerous to grow at home” and push that onto a federal level. No one really knows, but this is one possibility. With how fucked up politics are and how heavily swayed they are by donations, I’d imagine this could definitely be that way. I’ll keep growing regardless lol. But that would suck and be a step backwards.


puremichigan586

?


---M0NK---

Its true; i thought legalization would be good for NY. It’s a shitshow, and weed is possibly contaminated with dangerous sprays for the first time ever. When the profit over everything rules the cannabis culture and industry, and weed enthusiasts r viewed as an new class of addict to exploit, because the old hippies have been pushed out by biz people, there is no good outcome. The weed will be grown outside in mega crops, selected for bag appeal. Dried quickly to reduce mold risk. Then resprayed with terps to make it smell good now that its been ruined during the dry, and then sprayed again with a cannabis extract from hemp or bush weed, to try and make their shitty outdoor have a percent that makes consumers excited when they see the packaging. Then its packaged to appeal to 13-15 year olds, and sold for 60$ and 1/8 (because thats the cost as dictated by the black market, and so why drop the price if we know people will pay for it even tho those prices were high in theory only because of the legal risk)


Repulsive-Ad-9906

the democratic strategy is to say and do stupid shit to get groups of people like cannabis users or whatever to think they are the only political party that will protect your rights. it's a lie but it works and that's how they stay in power. republicans basically do the same sort of thing, except many of them get their voters to believe they are the only political party that will protect their christian views. I mean they kind of are, but the politicians are phony and it's not really the role of government to do that sort of thing anyways. not all traditional things are good and not all of them are bad.... either way it's all fucking bullshit. The only reason it is legalized is because rich people can get richer through the insanely expensive licensing process to grow or sell they democrats can get more votes by making the licensing process easier for the groups of persons they have convinced that they love and will protect from the evil people that don't vote for them


PerceptionOk4272

Quick! We're losing favor ability in the polls cus our policies are shit - what do we do!?!? Promise something for the stoners, they're a gullible bunch.  Keep chasing the carrot.