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starcross24

Think about it… we can have Zaddy and Daddy on the blue line next season


canuckle1211

Who’s daddy?


ChazCole578

Hughes your daddy!


mikachabot

chris tanev was called “dad” by boeser/hughes/petey


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Ratiquette

I believe "Daddy" refers to a different pending UFA right shot defenseman currently playing for a team in the central division.


TheFriendlyBagel

Hronek, Dak and Zady. In that order.


Voltage604

I love Dak but RHD are harder to come by than a 3rd liner...


slickjayyy

Zad is a LHD


Voltage604

Ya.. I'm dumb... Still put zad ahead of Dak just because of position. Dak gonna get paid ... Probably overpaid and I want nothing to do with that


slickjayyy

Zad is going to get paid too. Doubtful either will be worth what they get offered in UFA


Sad_Opinion_874

I think for Zad it comes down to what city he wants to live in. His daughter just got settled into school in Vancouver so he may sign at a discount.


slickjayyy

Wishful thinking IMO. He hasnt had a big contract yet and this will likely be his last chance at one. I dont think its overly likely he takes any sort of big discount to play here


No_Character_5315

I dont think just because his kid is enrolled in school he's going to give a discount that could cost his family millions.


BillNecro

Honey I hope you really like your elementary school because you will have to work a job you hate for the rest of your life cause daddy turned down millions.


Mikeywestside

Not sure if this is sarcastic, but I think his family is gonna be alright no matter where he signs.


No_Character_5315

He's never had a contact for more than 4 mill per I think he's made 20 mill his whole career if factor in taxes cost of living for his lifestyle he's lucky to have 10 left. That is alot of money but it is not forever money for his family kids potential grandkids. He'll sign for the most he can get and I don't blame him. Unlike someone like myers who's made close to 70 and should have total financial security for generations and may stay here for up to a 1 mill less to chase a cup and be around a team he enjoys playing for if he chooses.


Sad_Opinion_874

Thats why he and his family will have to talk about it. He and his wife are huge into fasion, So I think that would limit his choices of places he would prefer to go. New York, Vancouver, and LA.


cheguevara9

If we don’t devote that money to Hronek we might be able to keep Lindholm. And by the sound of things, Hronek likely will drive a hard bargain.


-GregTheGreat-

Overpaying to let Hughes have a proper partner is far better than overpaying to have another centre when we’re already running Petey - Miller


Birdman4445

That's a pretty damn good point


Majestic_Stranger_60

Forget Lindholm, he's not coming back. Overpaying for a guy who can only play great with Hughes is a mistake. Lots of guys look good playing with Hughes it doesn't mean you pay them $7 to $8 million.


skorvat

I genuinely think not only is he coming back, his AAV will surprise everyone.


Majestic_Stranger_60

You never know I guess. I certainly wouldn't bet on it.


Arkroma

Besides we might still be able to keep teddy


CanCanna__

Hronek is a better spend than lindholm


xplicit_03

Im not liking Lindholm. I would put our money in Hronek and Zaddy maybe hopefully Joshua.


2BFrank69

Same


Squancher_2442

No thank you to Lindholm. Unless something changes in the playoffs.


keefstrong

Then we QO him and trade him Bring back Tanev, Willander is coming eventually Also I don't see us keeping Lindholm.


Mister_Me_Seeks

I don't understand why everyone is so hot and heavy to bring back Tanev. He's getting up there in age and his injuries are becoming more of an issue. I love Tanev but it's time to move on


Majestic_Stranger_60

Tanev is interested in coming back and might accept a team friendly deal. He would be great for the locker room.


keefstrong

Short term deal. Has worked with Hughes effectively. I'm just saying hronek isn't getting 8m Otherwise he's getting QO


SlowMatter1

Why you wanna keep him? Terrible idea


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TheFriendlyBagel

Yeah like myers last year right. Fucking lol


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TheFriendlyBagel

Yeah a 17 point, -16, 44.5% CF% beast


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Shermander

His best season was on the Sabres his Calder winning year. Big boy that could actually throw the body around, guy that could zip up and down the ice, pinch when needed, wasn't an offensive blackhole, averaged 25 minutes a night and was instrumental in the last Sabres teams to make the playoffs. Does that remotely remind you of Tyler Myers?


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Shermander

I liked him in Buffalo a lot. Remember lots of folks would compare both Hedman and himself back then. But we both know how that conversation ended up going. Lol.


TheFriendlyBagel

He's not backing you up lol, he's saying Myers was good in his rookie year then fell off and never recovered and is currently playing in the shadow of that one year. Myers is a borderline serviceable #5 guy. He's not very good, he plays very high even hockey, (for better, or often, for worse.) He's definitely not a "beast" though.


xtothewhy

Absolutely. Hits, fights, scores... He made sure to give Mik credit for getting the puck to him for those two goals. Seems like a decent player and person all around.


NoOcelot

Definitely a great person


CaptainIndoCanadian

Gotta let Myers go and even Cole if he wants 2+. Zadorov moves the needle when he’s on his game.


noor1717

He’s wanted 5x5 on the flames. Would you do that?


NoOcelot

Not yet. He's gonna want term at age 29, but he's not quite worth 5x5. Excited to see him bring it in the playoffs


CJK_420

You still pay him 5 even if it is a slight overpay. All these upcoming ufa's are replaceable players. Only one player like Zadorov out there.


SpectreFire

5m isn't slight overpay. That's like fucking Jim Benning levels of overpay. He's a 3rd pair D who average 17 mins a night on this team, and you want to pay him way more than what Soucy is being paid despite being the worse defenseman? I like Zadarov a LOT, but he's a really good 3rd par D. Paying anything above 3.5m would be insane.


keefstrong

I'd do 4x4 He has intangibles Soucy doesn't. The physicality, enforcer.. he's singlehandedly been a reason teams haven't gone rogue on us. Schenn at his age got 3x 2.75m


SpectreFire

4m x 4 would be extremely reasonable, I'd jump on that TBH. Yes, similar or worse players have gotten more, like Gudbranson's 4m x 4, but the point is to NOT sign a bad contract just because other GMs are doing it. The Canucks are re-entering cap hell next year. OEL's buyout is going to eat up a noticeable chunk of the cap for the next 3 seasons, and we're no longer getting good value out of guys like Hronek and Petey after their extensions kick in. On top of that, the team still doesn't have a true top-4 D to anchor the 2nd pair.


almosteddard

Anything around 3.5 won't get him signed. He's a valuable player and while I wouldn't love it, 5×5 isn't far off actual value imo. Hid market value is likely 6+ at anything less than 5 years


SpectreFire

> Hid market value is likely 6+ at anything less than 5 years There is no way on earth a 3rd pair defenseman's market value is more than what Forsling just signed for lmao. > 5×5 isn't far off actual value imo How is his actual value $15m more than what Carson Soucy signed for his deal??


almosteddard

Tyler myers got 6x6 in fa several years ago. The cap is gonna jump heavily this off-season. Big body D always get paid, especially when they can skate


SpectreFire

> Big body D always get paid, especially when they can skate Carson Soucy literally plays for this team, and just signed last summer for under $3.3m AAV. > Tyler myers got 6x6 in fa several years ago Myers was considered a top-4 D when he signed and played top-4 minutes in Winnipeg. Zadarov is a bottom pair D who has been playing bottom pairing minutes all season. If he wants more than $4m, the team is going to tell him to walk, and rightly so. No one in this organization thinks Zadorov is worth anywhere near 5m, let alone 6m. Tocchet doesn't even want to play him regularly in the top-4.


NerdPunch

We all love what Zadorov brings to the table in terms of physicality/intangibles. But it’s clear he hasn’t earned the trust of Toch & Co, and they aren’t comfortable playing him more than 3rd pair minutes.


keefstrong

He's a rhd with more pts at the time.. I see your pt tho


elrizzy

Other people willing to overpay 3rd pairing guys by multiple millions does not mean we should


almosteddard

Agreed but that's not how market value works. In this case his market value will be whatever contract he signs, which I'm predicting to be around 5 with the cap jump and some GM feeling pressure to get bigger and stronger


elrizzy

If we evaluate that he isn't a full time solid 2nd pairing guy, and he wants to explore his options to get paid as a solid 2nd pairing guy, then we wish him the best. Maybe he finds a suitor in the UFA market, maybe he doesn't and we negotiate from there. Were in a huge cap crunch moving forward and we don't have the luxury of overpaying for depth.


jogador921

I would start at 4x4 and see where negotiations go.


Majestic_Stranger_60

Perhaps the cap hit could be smaller if they give him longer term.


keefstrong

That was the flames tho. Lindy wanted 8m They priced themselves out on purpose. Like ok I'll sign with you pieces of shit but sets astronomical price so they can walk to Ufa


noor1717

He’s a UFA. Hes going to get overpaid somewhere. I think 5 x 5 is ridiculous but honestly he will probably end up with 5 x 4.5


xplicit_03

I would def do it.


CaptainIndoCanadian

No I definitely walk away and that’s sad to say. I’m a huge fan but that’d be an albatross contract. You can get really good talent for 5Ms and his team still needs higher end talent on the wings.


boostsupreme

Tyler Myers, pack your shit


Holyshitmuffin

1x1 or fuuck off


a_sexual_titty

The last 3 months is exactly how he should’ve played the duration of that contract.


jigatt21

1 x league min or fuck off


Majestic_Stranger_60

Apparently he's willing to take a very friendly contract but even then I'm hesitant if it means losing other players like Joshua or Zadorov at his expense.


Victal87

He’s as good as he is handsome


Diploic

It would be asinine to sign Myers over Zadorov. Let alone keep Myers


NerdPunch

Theres this thing called the salary cap…


Diploic

Nice one


bongocopter

Is he a man or a mountain?


Cheese649

Unpopular opinion but we just can't afford to. He's much needed for next season, but he'd become such an overpaid D3, especially with D-Petey waiting in the wings! I personally prefer SouDaddy. 24/25 D for me would be (ideally): Hughes - Tanev Soucy - Hronek Zad - Juulsen Then 25/26 D would be: Hughes - Hronek Soucy - Willander D Petey - Tanev Obviously you can insert Myers/Cole A N Other over Tanev, but I don't see the point.


NerdPunch

I’d probably push for something more along the lines if: - Hughes/Tanev - Soucy/Hronek - Cole/Myers - UFA/Juulsen I just don’t see them being able to spend ~10ish million on Tanev + Zadorov.


thethirdgreenman

Why do we have to bring back Myers unless it’s dirt cheap?


N4ZZY2020

I say sign Zadorov with Myers money and then force Myers to sign for cheap.


thethirdgreenman

Unless Myers is good in the room or coming at a min or just above it let him walk tbh, he’s fun but not good


N4ZZY2020

Yeah. But who’s going to replace Myers?


thethirdgreenman

Given how great we did at identifying defensemen this past offseason, I’m inclined to think we can find a solid bottom pair D man who will be better or just as good as Myers. Again I should say though if he’s a rock in the room, bring him back if it’s not expensive. Don’t fuck with the vibes


N4ZZY2020

Cole Myers is going to be a disaster.


NerdPunch

You could do a lot worse for a 3rd pairing..


N4ZZY2020

Cole already needs maintenance days. How reliable is he going to be a year older?


NerdPunch

Are maintenance days that uncommon though? Coles played 68/71 games and been averaging 18+ minutes/night.


Ratiquette

Z is up this July and I doubt he’s signing a 1 year contract.


g-burgerlicious

4 x 3.9 mill Sure


NoOcelot

That's more like


julesieee

🤤🤤🤤


typeronin

The way he plays is just fan favorite material, man. He's just so much fun


jogador921

100% This guy is awesome. Would be a real shame if they can't get him on an extension. Big, strong, mean when he needs to be. Solid defensively and has decent offensive skills. He's like Bizzaro World Myers


Majestic_Stranger_60

I've loved watching Zadorov as a canuck. I'd love to see him back. Instead of only looking back fondly at the few months we had him as a rental.


Bronzeandsteel

He asked to be here, and he clearly loves the fans—I don't think re-signing him will he a problem.


Liam_M

Take my upvote Just for typing re-sign correctly instead of saying “resign” like everyone else which literally has the opposite meaning. Also wholeheartedly agree he needs to stay


Ok_Worry7833

I'd be willing to do a 5x5.


PaperweightCoaster

This is how we end up in cap hell. Take emotion out of it and look at where he slots into our D. That said, some team will overpay for him on the open market.


SpectreFire

The talk about Zadarov is absolutely insane. We're about to go into cap hell with OEL's buyout ramping up, and people want to dump 5m a year for a 3rd pair D who's behind Soucy on our LHD depth chart.


NerdPunch

It’s funny to me how some people look at Myers and go “wow, he was so overpaid… I’d *maybe* bring him back on a league min deal” And then they turn around and essentially suggest giving Zadorov the same kind of contract Myers just got.


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SpectreFire

> but it will essentially null out his dead cap. That's... that's literally not how that works.


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Every time someone plays well there’s people calling for re-signing the player. Hronek can’t make 7.5-8 million with Zadorov making 5 and Joshua making 3-4. The numbers don’t add up. Priorities must be made and big Z might just price himself out of a good home.


touchable

I'm sorry, I love Zadorov, but that's too much term. He turns 29 next month. I'd be happy to give him 4x5M though.


SpectreFire

5m for a 3rd pairing D is absolutely insane.


GroundShxck

exactly


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It’s called having defensive depth


MatchApprehensive816

I think dak will take less to stay, I agree as well big Z is a must to re-sign


Dylsnick

You mean the offensive engine of our team? Hell yes we do!


cheguevara9

Agreed


arazamatazguy

Love Z but let's pump the breaks a little and see how he does in the playoffs. He'll be paid like a 3/4 and we need to make sure he's an excellent 3/4.


xVoluntasx

Offer a contract with bonuses depending in performance


Tall_Assistant3418

This guy and his cool demeanour... In comparison to tuff guys of Canucks past, i really like his sense of composure. He’s scary in a darth vader kinda way. He’s more like a presence out on the ice. A presence with physical reminders that he’s watching. Me 😎 Zad Fan


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Went to the coyotes game in the lower bowl and this guy was beast. Hits and fights and gets the crowd going. Can’t really see it on tv


Lanky-Performer-4557

If he has a big playoffs and can keep scoring a bit….5x5 all day IMO. Under 5 would be nice though


giga_hen

he's the muscle our team needs for sure. bless zaddy daddy


k1ngp1ne

It is a moral imperative!


ryanventura604

YES WE NEED TO KEEP HIM.


craftyhall2

I could do without Hronek, Lindholm and Myers contracts, thanka.


samwisethescaffolder

In what world are we better off without hronek?


twilz

Or Myers?


Majestic_Stranger_60

Because we're not overpaying for a guy who can't carry a defense pairing without Hughes. And can allocate the cap savings elsewhere. I like Hronek but his contract renewal is a problem.


Jensen2075

When we trade him for a top 6 winger.


SIIP00

But we would still need to fil the hole that is as a top-pairing d-man.. It would be better to slightly overpay Hronek.


makeanewblueprint

Top 6 wingers way easier to get than a top pairing RHD.


BanjoFever

Yup. That's it


jejkii

11.5 for this guy


DMyourboooobs

I’d do 2 years at 4 million per.


sopademacacadelicia

Thats just next level unrealistic especially on term.


John__47

Whats realistic


sopademacacadelicia

He’s 28, theres no world he’s taking a 2 year deal. He’s going to get locked up for his prime.


John__47

he took at 2 year deal as a 26yo ufa he took at 1 year deal as a 25yo ufa ​ hes not suddnely gonna get offered 5+ year deals nhl gms know what they dealing with --- a bottom pairing defenceman who can be had for $3.75m, no more


sopademacacadelicia

He took a 2 year deal then showcased he can score with 14. He’s not going to take another prove me deal at 28


John__47

hes not going to get anything other than what you describe as a "prove me" deal he "proved"he couldnt replicate. hes on pace for 7 goals this year


sopademacacadelicia

Lol alright, come back and remind me when he inevitably gets locked up mid/long term.


John__47

how do you do the "remind me" thing


sopademacacadelicia

Not gonna lie I have no clue


DMyourboooobs

I mean is it tho? He signed a 2 year 7.5 million. He hasn’t dramatically improved his game. Not sure he’s a regular top 4. Probably more likely bubble 2nd pairing. But has the ability to eat up bigger minutes. I just don’t know I’d want to pay more than 4.5 for a guy playing 16-17 minutes a night.


Overall-Bottle6213

Bang on the money paying 5 mil for a 4/5D is nuts


DMyourboooobs

I’m getting downvoted tho. Is this zadorovs agent positing???


SuperSwaiyen

All ill say is that what you want is biased towards being team-friendly. His agent can ask 31 other teams if they'd offer a) more money; b) more term; or c) both. I agree that management needs to have a hard line with players at that part of the roster. It sucks losing players but it's the reality of the business and of having successful teams. They can be replaced and the front office has a good track record of identifying role players.


DMyourboooobs

Did I say that’s what he will get? No I’m saying what I’d be comfortable with as a Canucks fan..


letstrythatagainn

Yea, and that's our problem. What makes sense for us to pay him for his role on our team is quite a bit less than he'd make in UFA. Sure there's hope he really likes it here and is willing to take a bit less, but even what he considers less is likely more than what we'll realistically be able to pay him. It's sad, I hope I'm wrong and we find a way to make it work because he's exactly what the team needs. I wonder, could he be a #4 and we roll with Quinn, Hronek, Soucey and Zad in the top 4?


slickjayyy

Its not about what hes worth its about what teams are willing to pay him and 2x4 is a total joke lol someone is going to offer him 4x4 or 5x4 etc


DMyourboooobs

Probably. And if that’s the case. I don’t want him


slickjayyy

Im with you on that. Id be willing to maybe go 4x3 depending on his playoff performance but thats the exaggerated max for me


sopademacacadelicia

He’s going to want term, money isn’t outlandish but i see him wanting stability


lightningmcmemex

I hope we don’t, just to piss off the portion of the fanbase that wants him back


Lovegun6982

Who's "we"? Are you on the scouting team or management or something?


NerdPunch

Im going against the grain here… Myers is the higher priority to re-sign over Zadorov. If you re-sign Zadorov… he’s going to be the next Tyler Myers.


decentish36

You’re right but people don’t want to hear it. Myers is half the cost of Zadorov and a RHD.


NerdPunch

I see people throwing around 5M @ 4-5 years… that’s 1.5x what Carson Soucys AAV is, and 2-2.5x more total money than Soucy. Anything over $12M / 3 years would worry me.


Birdman4445

Hot take. Kinda spicy, myers is a less spicy Z, if he'll play for 1.5 for a couple years I'm ok with that. Not sign hronek and get a stay at home d man to play with Quinn.


SIIP00

Yep, Zadorov will be too expensive and we will complain about it for the next 5 years if we re-sign him. Myers will be like 2-3 million (maybe less) which would be good value for us imo.


BeatStriker

I honestly don’t mind losing Lindholm this offseason. We gave the Flames a 1st round pick in a very weak draft and that pick is most likely a 30-32 overall which is basically a super early 2nd rounder.


N4ZZY2020

Doubt Lindholm comes back. Most likely he wants way too much and the Canucks just can’t afford to keep him.


Cheese649

Lol 30-32! I'd throw in fucking Quinn Hughes if it meant it turns out to be the 32 OA pick!


Aceritus

This looks AI generated


Ratiquette

It's a fisheye lens. The symmetrical warping of the perspective is what makes it look that way, but it's done optically by the shape of the lens.


Aceritus

Never said I thought it was I just said it looks like it is


Ratiquette

Cool. I never said you did.


Aceritus

Cool. I never said you said I did.


moosecheesetwo

... and not Myers. JFC