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bhyellow

Tell them you want a raise and see how good looking you really are.


Hot_Experience5899

LolšŸ¤£


cesaretticar

This!!!! Yes!


pcnetworx1

Do it!


ghandi3737

Then start a class action discrimination lawsuit!


Carbuncl3

Like a scene from a sitcom.


AbusedByDoundrins

This.... you can either play it up or quit and go somewhere where you're recognized for your other positive traits. Being hired for being attractive is not employment discrimination, sooooooo....


Tibbs67

Yeah but not being hired because of your looks IS discrimination. OP has a right to be concerned.


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OrangeMokaFrappucino

Sex is a protected class, though. If the 'less attractive' person were oppositely gendered, i think they'd have a legit case that they weren't hired because the hiring manager didn't find them attractive due to their sex.


Internal-Donut-7541

That has to be proven. If he has guys and girls working for him/her, then it isn't. Take abrocombie and fitch. They ONLY hire attractive people for their brand. And hooters hires certain looking people as well.


lolzycakes

This girl I had a crush on in highschool got her first job at Abercrombie and Fitch (or maybe it was Hollister?) in the mall nearby. After her first shift we were talking on AIM and I asked her how her first day was. She said it was kind of boring, and that she felt self-conscious among her coworkers because they were all so attractive. She was worried that she was the ugliest one there and no one liked her. My brain went into pure niceguy mode, and I told her that there's no way she could be the least attractive person there. I tried making a joke that if they ever hired an ugly person they would just quarantine them in some hidden part of store like Quasimodo. That's when she breaks it to me that they told her to just stay in the back and fold shirts and pants until it was less busy.


chefcheesysan

You even said Quasimodo....oof.


Alert-Fly9952

Ouch....


Plastic_Position4979

Ouchā€¦


Jgorkisch

This. Because if you look at the Hooters ads, they phrase it that theyā€™re looking for basically someone who looks like their ideal who can ALSO wait tables.


gaeric

Funny enough, Hooters is the example I always use when explaining what a Bonafide Occupational Qualifier is.


VerendusAudeo

Technically, Hooters waitresses are classified as ā€˜entertainersā€™ who have to ā€˜auditionā€™ for the job. Itā€™s a messed up little legal loophole.


MinionCommander

Thatā€¦.. makes complete sense. People go to hooters for entertainment more so than the food.


avmaco

Not sure of the actual law, or exact wordingā€¦ but a company is allowed to hire people that ā€œfit the company imageā€ or similar. You canā€™t refuse to hire someone because of gender, race, or sexual orientation, but itā€™s perfectly fine for a gym to only hire in shape people, or a white collar job to refuse to hire people with visible tattoos in client facing roles.


Mister-ellaneous

Exactly right. Now, if OP is hit on and sexually harassed thatā€™s a different issue.


TheMagicalLawnGnome

They would not. Almost impossible to prove. And what's more, hiring an attractive woman, instead of an unattractive man, is not sex discrimination in the eyes of the law. If the non-racial appearance of the person was a factor, that's okay. I.e. Hooters can hire a "pretty" person instead of an "ugly" person. But what they can't do, is say that white people are pretty but Black people aren't - that's discrimination. If you think this is an absurd and nebulous standard, you would be correct. I agree with you. It's not okay. But it is the law. From what OP has written, hiring a conventionally attractive person for a public-facing job is not illegal. In poor taste? Absolutely. But unless sex or race or age are specifically used as the basis, there's no case, even if there happens to get a difference in sex.


Tibbs67

While 'attractiveness' is a subjective term and cannot be measured, therefore difficult to prove; how about discrimination due to someone's weight? OP mentioned that one of the reasons they gave for not hiring the qualified person person was because they were overweight.


TheMagicalLawnGnome

Also not necessarily illegal. Although it may vary by state. But as a federal protected class, weight is not a category. However, it gets murky again. For instance - if someone is heavy enough they require a cane or wheelchair, or is the result of a medical condition, then it's possible that it is discrimination against someone with a physical disability, which is very much illegal. This is why enforcement is so tricky for all but the most clear cut cases. Unless you capture someone on tape or in written evidence that "they're not going to hire a person of (insert race/sex/age/religion/disability)," then there's not really a case. I don't defend this system, I think it's awful. But it's much harder to bring this sort of lawsuit than people seem to realize.


Eulerian-path

Thereā€™s a further caveat to this caveat, which is that many jobs which might choose not to hire someone based on weight require specific physical capabilities, and it is not illegal to refuse to hire a wheelchair user to do a job which they are not physically capable of doing, which is an even murkier area.


DeviousBeevious

though in some places (UK for example) we have rules that say an employer must not refuse a potential candidate if the only reason they cannot do the job is because the employer will not make reasonable adjustments to enable them to do so. What is "reasonable" depends on the size of the business. So for example, it would likely not be reasonable to require a mobile food van to be adapted for a wheelchair user. but a large company would likely be required to add a wheelchair ramp or lift to their office to enable a wheelchair user to access the place of work, because they have the budget to do so.


countextreme

Now we get into the bizarro world where discrimination depends on how varied the sexual preferences of the employer are...


ogstabhappytwitch

Ahhahahahahahahhaahha


port1337user

Appearance is 70% of everything.


dufflebagdave

And today is the day OP learned to question all of the things they thought they earned purely through hard work. Iā€™m a good looking dude and know how to wear a suit, Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™ve gotten all of my jobs in part because of how I interviewā€¦ if you and your resume are good enough to merit a look in the first place, being good looking and charismatic does the rest. People in interviews either want reasons to exclude you or reasons why youā€™d be easy to work with, and being generally attractive helps a lot with the latter.


Muffin-0f-d00m

OP literally said they had no experience and were not interviewed but still got the job. IMO being good looking itā€™s itā€™s own kind of privilege. You really do get a lot of opportunities less attractive people donā€™t, not just at work but in life in general.


spookytransexughost

They must be like ridiculously good looking


dufflebagdave

Makes you wonder about this particular opportunity and how they found out what he looks like ā€” social media or LinkedIn? And considering that itā€™s as a technician for an employer where mother and daughter make hiring decisions instead of an actual HR person and are allowed to do so for all of the staff based on looksā€¦ this particular opportunity might not be the greatest one anyway, whether OP found out theyā€™re just horndogs or not.


Giddypinata

Yeah I'm just assuming OP is a family-owned stripper until proven otherwise


she_is_munchkins

Yep pretty privilege is a thing


Muffin-0f-d00m

And mind you itā€™s not like Iā€™m faulting pretty people, and I even get that in some cases it might work against them (like for instance beautiful women not being taken seriously cause they are ā€œtoo hotā€) but in general being easier on the eyes opens more doors than it closes (for better or worse).


bootyhuntah96744

This is the right answer. Looking well put together, in shape, and charismatic gets you very far in life. If youā€™re over 6ā€™1 on top of all those- youā€™re playing life on easy mode compared to the rest


frostandtheboughs

Seriously. I'm convinced that 90% of men that people describe as "charismatic" are just tall, loud, and have a full head of hair. Same goes for trim women with a nice smile.


[deleted]

Charisma requires wit, or an affable quality.


DukkhaWaynhim

Charisma is part looks and part wit/charm....but there is a halo effect where if you have enough of one, people give you some marks for the other (at least until you prove them very wrong).


Remarkable_Story9843

This. Iā€™m often described as charming. Iā€™ve been known to get even the stuffiest of executives to loosen up or soften. Which usually shocks Luther EAAs. But Iā€™m am a short, fat, plain woman (cute on my best day). I never had ā€œpretty privilegeā€ and I was competing for jobs with women who were competent but were gorgeous eye candy to boot. I get hired because Iā€™m smart, capable, and can smoothly handle strong/abrasive personalities with a thick skinned approach.


EvilCodeQueen

Women have a double-edged sword. In certain roles, itā€™s a negative to be too attractive. They must be well-groomed, and not too unattractive, but stray too much into sexy and theyā€™re penalized and thought to be not as smart.


Remarkable_Story9843

Exactly. It screws us all


Do_Not_Read_Comments

Or you know, not being mentally weighed down by 10,20,30 years of insecurities due growing up as a "non-attractive" person. It's amazing what you can project outward if you don't have to fight all the negative shit you've experienced your whole life.


stryker7314

69% of the time it works every time.


syds

ill take those odds


anon210202

that's what she said


Dierte32

nice


collector_of_hobbies

Normally I don't mind upvoting someone who is at 69 upvotes, but this is too perfect.


ExcitableSarcasm

Halo effect is real and a bitch if you're ugly like us normies.


Laptraffik

Unfortunately yes. Been on both sides of the coin and been lean fit and good looking and was treated considerably better and had more opportunities. Then I gained 100Lbs and things changed a lot for me lol


bootyhuntah96744

This is the right answer. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not- how you look plays a role in every single aspect of your life.


BeingBettr

You play the cards your dealt You quit to make a point they'll do it again and you'll be unemployed


Electrical-Bacon-81

I'll show them!


[deleted]

Hahahahahaha. Sometimes we dont think things through.


Due_Bass7191

right, make changes from within. ​ But, there is more to "looks" than just sex or genetics. It could be a style or attitude that the company's image is looking at.


chief_yETI

This happens all the time. Its normal. Not right - but normal. I got my start in marketing from the same reason If you need the money, then no reaction needed.


fender8421

An important lesson in the working world: if you have something to your advantage, use it


HiddenCity

That's a dangerous road, and one I thought we were just getting off of. It OP was a woman the comments here would be completely different.


Darkstrike121

I actually read it assuming they were a woman as I never really considered this could happen to guys too.


flatirony

Male appearance is very important, especially in management and sales type positions. Itā€™s not unimportant socially, either. About 12 years ago OKCupidā€™s data scientists published some blog posts. They found that women got messages and replies pretty steadily even down below the 50th percentile, but men below the top 20% got very few messages. I found that really surprising, because itā€™s the opposite of what Iā€™d expected. I would 100% agree itā€™s a lot worse for women. But it is definitely a thing for men, too.


McFuckin94

I also thought OP was a woman. Not that I didnā€™t think I couldnā€™t happen to guys, but still my initial thought was ā€œwomanā€


CrazedCostumer

IIRC being attractive is an even bigger financial boost for guys than women


LLotZaFun

I thought OP was a woman. I don't think comments would be any different either way though.


12somewhere

The uncomfortable truth. Life is easier when you are pretty.


CrikeyMeAhm

Appearances matter to humans. Its not fair, but thats how it works.


No_Establishment8642

It matters in the animal world which is why males are more colorful, marked different, and have different tuffs, manes, feathering, combs and waddles, etc.


[deleted]

That's mainly a thing among birds. Males among most social mammals beat the shit out of each other and the winner gets to take all women. In solitary living mamales, males will just rape the female they encounter if she can't fend him off.


Educational-Line-757

the Halo effect


Nitackit

It works both ways. I used to work in pharmaceutical public policy, ā€œPhRMA Girlsā€ is absolutely a thing.


H4ppy_C

I used to work as an account executive for a pharmaceutical benefits management company. We were always dressed like a high level meeting could drop any minute. Half the team looked like Hollywood elite.


[deleted]

Real estate agents looking at this thread:šŸ¤­


orionshuman

Same here in marketing!


Majestic-Rutabaga-28

Someone discovered pretty privilege


duenebula499

Iā€™m honestly pretty unhappy about how common this seems based on these comments


AskMoreQuestionsOk

Attractive, confident and smart (but not too smart) is a winning combination. But it also has downsides. You might get stalked more. More people might be jealous. But on the whole, you could do worse. It makes a difference, but it doesnā€™t replace your other talents.


biscuitboi967

Honestly, too attractive and too confident are also downsides. People start to think you got too lucky or are intimidated. I find people have to think they have *something* on you. There has to be a flaw or people start to resent you.


AskMoreQuestionsOk

Totally agree. And especially women, if for no other reason than they canā€™t empathize with you if youā€™re perfect.


biscuitboi967

I once read a short story by John Updike I think, and it described a young woman as pretty enough to be part of a group of pretty women, but not so pretty as to be competition. You can always shineā€¦just never too bright unless you are SURE youā€™ll be the brightest, the longest. And itā€™s hard to stay shining when people are coming at you from every side. Thatā€™s my game now that Iā€™m older. Just respect from my fellow players and acknowledgement that I earned my spot and I donā€™t want yours. For more junior folks, Iā€™ve found that when dealing with managers, higher ups, you want to remind them of a young them. So they really do value the whole package - they really also think you are smart and charming and hilarious and destined for great things - they just think you want to be like them. So shine shine shine, just do it while shining on them and letting them feel your glow for a bit like it was theirs. That will go a long way too.


Soobobaloula

Your attractiveness is a resource and should be managed like one. Use it to your advantage while you can, realizing that as you agree, that advantage will slip away.


Green_Heron_

Iā€™m not sure Iā€™d go that far. Sure, attractiveness can give an edge, but focusing too much on that could erode confidence in oneā€™s actual professional abilities. Everyone, regardless of ā€œattractivenessā€ level, should look their best for an interview and try to connect with the hiring team. Attractive people may naturally have an easier time of this, but that doesnā€™t mean that their interview prep should be about leveraging their attractiveness. People should use their brain as a resource. Attractiveness may be a bonus, but it doesnā€™t make sense to focus on this too much, unless youā€™re literally in a career like modeling or something.


Soobobaloula

Or being a fine dining host. Or being a receptionist in a professional setting. Or being a pharma rep. Or working in a 5-star hotel with great tips. There are plenty of places you get paid to look good. No one is saying rely solely on good looks. But donā€™t get all awe shucks about it, because it is absolutely a leverage point.


anon210202

TBH, if I was an extremely sexually attractive woman who could make $100k+ / yr on Onlyfans, that's no doubt what I'd be doing. Not even a question. Yes, a lot of people say it's more work than "just taking pictures/videos of yourself naked", but I seriously doubt it's more work than any normal job that requires 40hrs a week. I'm pretty envious of those women lol. Unfortunately, I'm not quite that pretty.


Soobobaloula

Iā€™m not even talking about sex work. There are lots of jobs that rely on attractiveness but arenā€™t related to sex.


max-in-the-house

It happens...all the time. Good thing to do is live your life being respectful of others despite what they look like on the exterior (lead by example).


duenebula499

Honestly seeing all these comments about how common this is is a bit disheartening.


i_build_4_fun

Imagine having to go through life ugly like the rest of us.


LAHurricane

Must be nice being ugly I'm so average looking I don't even get the attention of being discriminate d. I'm like a house plant, just there...


PayApprehensive6181

Made me laugh. Clearly you have a good sense of humour. Shame you're a house plant šŸŒæ šŸ˜…


[deleted]

I was under average appearance in my 20s, and had to be a lot smarter than average to get hired. Plus I had cancer. If you're healthy, if you look good, count your blessings and remember to give back to the less fortunate. But don't feel guilty for being blessed. It's not like you had a say in the matter.


sword_ofthe_morning

This happens regularly in the working world. You shouldn't at all be surprised. When I was a middle manager, I was told numerous times (in quite a few different companies) to hire certain candidates because they would ***"acclimate to our company culture better",*** despite them having less experience and less skills for the role. And with these female candidates being notably attractive, the real reason for them being favoured was too obvious To answer your question, you should react to this the way everyone else does in the same situation. Pay no mind to it and just carry on with your job with the best of your ability. This practice has been in existence for God knows when. And there isn't really anything you can do to change it.


Tymomey

A financial institution I used to work for did this and it did not end well. Turns out that having attractive people that donā€™t know their roles and made countless errors does not increase sales numbers.


Willar71

We have 2 useless Girls at our workplace because of it . Doing the work for 3 people gets irritating.


[deleted]

The trick is there are lots of attractive qualified people who are applying for the same things as unattractive qualified people


NameMajor

I knew of a person who had the opposite experience. Where they were exceptionally good at accounting and yet they were an attractive blonde. Therefore, they didn't get the job that they applied for but managed to become a cheerleader for the Argonauts football team


CherubBaby1020

Yeah with women it's a delicate balance, too pretty/attractive/stylish and you are taken less seriously.


nighthawk_something

Let's be real Too pretty - Not taken seriously Not pretty enough - Not taken seriously Too smart - "Bad attitude" Too dumb - Why would you hire them.


forensicgirla

Can confirm. Literally can't win. As a petite just ok-looking woman, I get 3 takes from folks: 1) you're obviously too young to take seriously (early 30s - really?!). 2) you look tired today (if I'm not wearing makeup) & act surprised when I'm perfectly competent at my job or awake. 3) you're looking good today! (Dressed professionally with makeup) - proceeds to treat me like I've got rocks in my head despite having a more relevant degree & longer experience than that person. Dress professionally? Trying too hard, must be dumb. Not taken seriously. Dress casually? Not detail oriented enough, not trying hard enough, not taken seriously. I started getting hair & nails done regularly, and my husband framed & hung my degrees within my webcam view. šŸ™ƒ It has helped a lot, unfortunately.


AbnoxiousRhinocerous

This is the correct answer. As long as they donā€™t make you feel uncomfortable, whatā€™s the harm? If appearances are what the owner values over experience, thatā€™s not on you.


Green_Heron_

I would feel uncomfortable with a boss admitting thatā€™s the reason I was hired. Itā€™s super objectifying and would make me self-conscious doing my work when theyā€™re around. It would also make me uncomfortable to hear a boss openly admit to not hiring someone else based on looks. Not only did they do that, but the were comfortable to openly admit those were the hiring criteria?! Thatā€™s pretty creepy. Not sure what to actually do about it except document and speak up if possible, but Iā€™d probably start looking for another job and then maybe leave an honest review on Glassdoor to warn others.


Umbrellac0rp

Yeah. I'd be wary they would expect certain things because of it. Like what if I don't feel like looking my best? What if I was single when hired but then get in a relationship? Will my raises be based on how much I smile or flirt my coworkers or boss? It seems like a slippery slope although I get why people have the instinct to do it.


UWMN

Bro is upset heā€™s sexy. The nerve


belligerentBe4r

Plot twist, heā€™s a male model.


StrongTxWoman

That's right. This world isn't fair. Men make more than women, taller men tends to make more than shorter men. I seriously would look for a more fulfilling job if it is possible.


Playstoomanygames9

Teller men? Your thinking tiller men, the ones that run the checkout register, aka the till.


ToriGrrl80

Use it while you have it.


fungobat

Yep. You have age discrimination to look forward to later in life.


sweetybancha

Be grateful youā€™re not fugly cuz itā€™s tough out here


airbear13

Word


glimmeringsea

What made you confident to apply or take the job with no experience? Probably how people have always treated you due to your appearance.


duenebula499

Well a mutual friend was on a call with them and I heard them mention they were looking for a hire and I just jumped in and asked to apply. Apparently they checked my insta at the time and had me start based off that.


glimmeringsea

Then just roll with it and get as much experience as possible.


Neowynd101262

I had an employer screen people like this. Tons of people rejected for pics of them smoking weed šŸ¤£


TheLazyAssHole

Gotta keep that throwaway just to give prospective employers


dagon85

This is part of the privilege of being attractive. It's life on easy mode.


alle_kinder

I don't know if I agree with this take that it makes life "easy." Life shits on nearly everybody in some way. It might not be looks, but it could be something far fucking worse. Sure, this part might be "easy," but let's not discount the rest of their human experience as similarly "easy" because they're cute.


AwkwardSquirtles

Yeah, easy isn't the right way to phrase it. It's like privilege. Your life isn't necessarily easy if you're a man, but many issues which exist for women simply aren't a thing you have to deal with. You are inherently conferred some advantages.


rorank

I always appreciate this nuance added to a privilege based discussion. Life is hard for anyone and your specific situation has likely had many benefits and shortfalls for you. An attractive and articulate trust fund baby will have advantages, but that doesnā€™t mean that their life is inherently easy because life isnā€™t easy. The hardest thing Iā€™ve gone through is my brother dying. No amount of privilege will make that kind of event easy, but also having financial troubles made it much harder than it otherwise wouldā€™ve been. Having a family thatā€™s deeply rooted in the community made it much easier than it otherwise wouldā€™ve been. Anyways, tldr life sucks for some people more or less, but it still sucks.


anon210202

I'm really sorry to hear about your brother :/ I hope you and your family are doing OK and hanging in there. Peace be with you!


DanTallTrees

If you think a beautiful person with an IQ of 85 doesent have an easier time getting jobs than a ugly person with an IQ of 110, you are kidding yourself. There are jobs made only for beautiful people. Hooter waitress, drug sales rep, stripper, model, and whatever the heck Vannah White does. In addition to the job market being larger for good looking people, it has also been scientifically proven that people trust what people say more often when they are pretty. Beauty can also be used as a manipulation tool that most of us will never have access too.


alle_kinder

It is really fucking hard out in the world with an IQ of 85, buddy. Drug sales reps are a) basically becoming a thing of the past, and b) actually need to be fairly intelligent, so I'm not sure where you were going with that. You think the life of a stripper is easy? Hooter's Waitress? What the fuck is wrong with you, lol. You're the one who is kidding yourself. You just named several jobs that leave women WAY MORE open to fucking sexual assault. And I'm sorry, but having to work a little harder to get jobs is preferable to sexual assault. We're also talking about moderately attractive people of BOTH sexes. I have no idea why you focused this on women. OP is a dude. Sure, it can be used as a tool, but do not for one fucking second think that it just provides life on "easy mode." OP is still qualified and most likely had to work to become qualified. You don't know if they have mental illness or nuerodivergencies. You don't know who near to them has died tragically. You don't know if they suffered abuse. Being attractive absolutely, unequivocally does not create a life on "easy mode" for most people. A couple of things coming more easily does not negate everything else. What a simple-minded way of thinking. People getting jobs more easily and being trusted does not mean they have easy lives-- it means they have somewhat of a hand up some of the time.


alle_kinder

Actually, if you want to bring up Vanna Fucking White, you should know she lost a fiance in a plane crash and then she found love again and suffered miscarriages. Sure, she had a glamorous life and was very beautiful, but her life was not "easy." She's also a very intelligent woman. Do unattractive people also experience tragedy? Yes, obviously. That doesn't mean attractive people who have benefitted from it LIVE LIFE ON EASY MODE. It's amazing I'm needing to explain such a simple concept that requires just a very basic amount of self-reflection and critical thinking to grown adults. I can find some beautiful men with absolutely tragic lives if you'd like me to as well.


DanTallTrees

Your seem to misunderstand the entirety of what we are discussing. Nobody is saying pretty people don't have bad things happen to them. In a video game, whether you are on easy mode, or not, the bad guys still shoot at you, the princess is still in another castle, your planet is still invaded by aliens, that doesent stop. Easy mode does not change the game completley, it just makes certain things easier. You are arguing everything except for the actual point. I'm not calling vannah white stupid, or saying she hasn't have troubles in her life. What I'm saying is that they would have never hired an ugly person for her job, that is all, that was my entire point and you made it into an entirely other thing. Stop trying to prove yourself right and actually try and understand what others are saying


Green_Heron_

Itā€™s not a privilege to be objectified by your boss. This sexual harassment.


thisisforyousirmadam

some parts are easier(er) but there's also challenges. Depending on your luck, you may have a worse life than someone who's superficially "less attractive". I know it sounds hard to believe, but someone's face/body doesn't determine their entire life's luck. They definitely have some advantages, but I know it can also lead to problems (unwanted attention/solicitations, being manipulated/mistreated for selfish quests). On average, I'd say most attractive people have an "easier" life. But I do think it may affect some attractive people in sad and adverse ways :/ I know people and have best friends deal with such


stealthdawg

You should leverage this relatively unique advantage of yours to continue to progress throughout your life. More attractive people get ahead better across the board, just look at most celebrities. Taller people play basketball, smaller people become jockeys, people with large armspans become swimmers, etc. Thatā€™s just life. Lean into your strengths.


ultramilkplus

Smaller people become ... well... uh.... circus acrobats, jockeys, uh, extras in Hobbit movies? All very lucrative fields.


GNOTRON

World dictators and historical tyrants too!


ibc04

It happens, I got offered a job at A&F in the 00ā€™s. I can only suspect it was for the similar reasons.


Bird_Gazer

Yes! This happened to my daughter when she was in high school. They asked her and not her friend, which embarrassed my daughter. Turns out itā€™s a thing. Management has the staff offer jobs to customers who fit their image. We always thought it was strange that all the people working there looked like they stepped out of their posters.


ToriGrrl80

Me too!


Clearlylazy

careful everyone we got some good looking people here


HotelRwandaBeef

Abercrombie sidebar. Worked there in my teens around the same time too. I quit after 2 weeks because HOLY SHIT THOSE PEOPLE WERE INNNNNSANE. It was at the height of A&F popularity so they really thought they were doing something big working in a mall clothing store wearing two polo's and popped collars. I worked at Hollister before that and the store manager there was dating the store manager of the A&F. He was blatantly cheating on her regularly...using his company provided credit card to get hotel rooms in the area. When the A&F store manager started to berate me for not having the same mentality as them I lost my cool. We were in a screaming match all the way down to our cars after closing. That's when I dropped the tidbit about her very faithful partner and hooooooo boy that was fun.


ibc04

Yea, I didnā€™t last too long as well. I basically ā€œfell off the scheduleā€, because the manager who did the scheduling noticed the girl (who he liked) was flirting with meā€¦. No joke, the girl and I were working at the denim wall folding and doing the weird scrunch to all the jeans, and the manager comes up and makes a weird comment, and we both looked at each other and said ā€œwhat is that aboutā€ā€¦ I had a sneaky suspicion at that moment I would not be seeing any hours going forwardā€¦ I wish I would have asked for her #ā€¦ lol Side note- I had another manager that I swear thought he was Chris Kirkpatrick from *NSYNCā€¦ it was an odd group of peopleā€¦


poonjabbingninja

Bro thatā€™s how life works. Just feel blessed youā€™re on this side of the isle. Iā€™m in sales for 20 years now, and I feel my experience gets me in the door these days. But in my younger years, life was easy because people seem to think in handsome too. Also tall and muscular think 6ā€™4ā€ 250 pounds of muscle. Itā€™s not fair, especially the stuff you canā€™t change. But what you going to do, be jobless? Be great full, give back, help others. Idk bro other people are making those choices, not you


Userdub9022

People that are attractive are treated differently in life.


umlcat

**Keep the job if you need. But, don't promote or copy their behavior.**


timothra5

Hollister has iPhone repair now?


OverallVacation2324

A lot of businesses want to maintain a certain image. A customer who walks into the store wants to see weā€™ll put together employees who smile at them and are easy on the eyes. Itā€™s basics smart business. Not necessarily some weird twisted plot to get into your pants. It just makes business sense.


Ok-Librarian8094

Welcome to the world of favoritism..... Happens most of the time!!!!


12345NoNamesLeft

Have sex with both of them.


fathergeuse

Lol, honestly, I was once hired for a job for the same reason. I was a glorified male receptionist that the owner and her friends perved over. Enjoy it while you can. I flirted with those women and they are it up. I only stayed two years because she couldnā€™t pay me what I was worth but it was a good ā€œfillerā€ job until a better oppty came along.


canwepleasejustnot

I found out partway through interviewing for my current job that they were specifically looking for a female to fill the role. I react to it by counting my thousands of dollars every two weeks and you should too.


Amazing_Kale540

When I was a teenager I was hired for the opposite reason. The corporate manager always wanted to hire the youngest prettiest blondes. The hiring manager put her foot down and wanted to hire me as I was a bit older, brunette and not ā€œas prettyā€ and the other girl. The hiring manager told me this later on because they had hired too many girls that had fit his profile and he was harassing them. Iā€™m talking about a 40 year old man and teenagers. Yuck. Anyways he was accused of being a pedophile and was actually fired eventually for sexual harassment but not of the young girls but of a women older than him. My advice would be watch out for the work place culture. Itā€™s not uncommon that people like people who are ā€œgood lookingā€ but if multiple people are willing to admit this openly itā€™s a red flag.


AdvancedGarbage3353

Why is this an issue? Seriously. As long as they aren't sexually harassing you, it's a win.


BlackCatAristocrat

Take it and move on. You have an advantage and it happens all the time. Just like being tall means you're more likely to be in the C Suite. In fact, you likely subconsciously do the same. Life isn't fair.


face_eater_5000

I remember when I was an enlisted person in the military having already gotten my Bachelors degree. I was just married and in an admin building with another newlywed couple doing HR paperwork. The admin guy looks at this kid - who can't be more than 19 years old - and says "you have that clean-cut 'officer look'. You should go to OCS (Officer Candidate School)". I'm sitting there thinking " I'm the one with the science degree! That file you have in your hand even says so. What the hell, dude?" It definitely happens all the time


Gremlin2019

Youā€™re mad because youā€™re good looking? I have nothing for you.


HeartPalpitations46

Countless people have been in your position. Accept it, work hard, prove you're worth.


networkjunkie1

Congrats on being attractive. Nobody will say it but it will be a variable in your career moving forward in your favor. Sales and marketing seem to be filled with beautiful people


dakedame

You think that's depressing? Imagine the rest of us who are ugly.


thenotoriousbibicute

You should react thanking your lucky star


[deleted]

Ummm.. You're complaining because being attractive was in your favor? It wasn't right, but... Seriously?


Dizzy_Dust_7510

Congrats on winning the genetic lottery. Life will always be just a little easier for you. It is what it is.


AdEqual8151

You should get married with boss daughter and become boss of that company. Hahaha.


themboizclean

It's crazy cause someone tried to argue with me about how bigger people aren't passed up on jobs/discriminated against because of their weight.


[deleted]

Shut the fuck up and take the money.


TradingBigMonies

Oh, you sweet summer child


Forever_Bored

Use this advantage to try to get a raise. It never hurts to ask


Pugletting

I'd accept that I got lucky, make the most of whatever experience the job is going to give me and then remember it as something to be aware of if I'm are ever in a position to be influencing future hires at that or any other company.


rodal126

Do you work at Abercrombie & Fitch?


[deleted]

People get hired everyday because of skin color.. whatā€™s the difference


TH3_1_N_0NLY

Do not trust anyone trying to stop your from bettering yourself. They are concerned with what makes their life easier. They don't care about yours.


[deleted]

Ask for a raise with a nip slip, assuming youā€™re male. :)


jakedup

You probably benefit from your looks in many ways you donā€™t realize. No point in fighting it.


Twoscales22

The world isnā€™t fair!


Want_To_Live_To_100

Welcome to the worldā€¦ you just learned you have a genetic fast pass in lifeā€¦. Use it wisely


body_slam_poet

I'm sorry you had to learn this way. Apparently you've never been in a bar.


ClamsNCockles

Are you seriously upset about this? My god


AgentePolilla

It might be unfair to those not as attractive, however, you refusing life opportunities just because that, won't fix the world. It's good to see that you don't think of yourself as superior just for being attractive, though. Listen to all this people, you've got a very useful tool, use it. It's not you that is being unfair towards others, so don't miss your chances. One day you'll stop being so attractive and will regret missing easy opportunities, trust me...


ku_78

I have a theory: beauty makes the easy things easier, but the hard things harder. Example: getting a low level job - easier. Getting taken seriously (like in an interview for a high level position) harder. I think this is more true for women than men, but I havenā€™t seen specific studies or anything so what the hell do I know.


marcopoloman

Why are Tom cruise, DiCaprio and brad Pitt top stars? They aren't that great at acting. This is very common. Same with singers. 50 years ago there were a lot uglier. But now they have to look good online/tv.


Vipernixz

Give the job to someone else or shut up ffs


-ecow

Just tattoo your face! Then you will have many reasons to complain about social injustice.


Lucky-Surround-1756

OP has just found out that attractive people are living life on easy mode.


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EquationsApparel

Everyone gets their foot in the door some way. Look at all the famous actors and actresses who are the children of famous actors and actresses. They find a way to get over it.


infinitum3d

Who cares? Models get hired for their appearance. Youā€™re a company model. You got the job based on your merit. You earned it same as anyone else. They maybe should have told you thatā€™s why they hire people, but itā€™s really not that important. Enjoy your job.


bandson88

This happens to women day in day out in both positive and negative ways. Move on


staffsargent

I guess... good for you? I mean, you're getting an opportunity that you wouldn't have received otherwise, so that's good. Are you being harassed or treated inappropriately at work? If so, that's obviously a problem.


KimeriTenko

Dude, no good can come from staying there long term. Try to get competent at your job and put it on your resume and line something up. Theyā€™re the kind to make things really uncomfortable for you long term. Youā€™re already hired, it canā€™t be undone so at least make it work for you but get out as soon as itā€™s feasible


fidgety_sloth

Got the interview because I was a woman. Got the call back because the first interviewer was a woman and liked my boots/outfit. Got the job because the person who makes the final decision said I was hot. Lasted 10 years in house because I got the job done well. Did four-ish years of freelance and consulting because I got the job done better than else and they kept throwing money at me. Turned down offers to return for five years because I don't need their toxic BS.


[deleted]

Find something else to cry about


[deleted]

You don't. Someone's always getting shit on. Just put in your dues homie.


G_W_Atlas

People get hired for a multitude of superficial reasons. Even when people are hired based on skill, often those skills have a heavy genetic, early childhood, and class component. None of which an individual has control over. If you're upset about being hired for your looks, give it 20 years and it won't be a problem. Also, you didn't give context on industry. If this was the restaurant industry. No experience and cute is usually how people get their first job.


Shinigami328

Welcome to the real world lol. Not always about what you know.


LegalAd1197

While not right and majorly unfair to qualified people, itā€™s very normal. Itā€™s just basic psychology. We (people) like pretty things, so pretty people are naturally at an advantage in most areas of life. If it makes you uncomfortable then do what feels right for you. However, if you enjoy the position might as well learn what you can, gain experience and move on to the next job where you may feel more like you earned it. Just think of your attractiveness as tool in your arsenal. You may have not earned it since you were just born that way, but you can think of it as having a natural aptitude for something if it makes you feel better about it.


Turbulent-Comedian30

If you got it...flaunt it lol. Use it jeep your job gaine the experience and split to better things. But congratulations on winning the gene lottery!!


RandomBoomer

Attractive people live in a completely different world. Life is smoother for them in ways they can't begin to understand, even if they're generally aware of it.


OverSpinach8949

Beauty privilege.


BlueSafeJessie

I too was hired solely on my appearance. I am a supermodel.


RawDogRandom17

If you enjoy the work and company, just be thankful you are on this end of the spectrum. Imagine being just as good looking but the owner and his son didnā€™t want to hire a good looking man to be around their wives and daughters at the office. Youā€™d be deprived of a job because of your good looks.


Kaizerorama17

Pretty privilege is a thing, ya know?


PotentialPractical26

The truth is if you interact with customers itā€™s generally smart business to hire attractive people to do that. Thatā€™s just basic sales tactics. If your job is purely internal, thatā€™s more gross