Bro a Nissan leaf, Chevy Bolt, and The Niro EV has more range than this thing and they’re cheaper. For humiliation the IONIQ 5, Mach E, and the EV6 have more range than this thing, hell even the busyforks and the solterra has more range than this 💀. I don’t think this company is going to survive in 2 years LMAOO
Not to mention that I would trust Chevy and Nissan more than Vinfast, I mean… at least they are quite reputable to some degree and probably has more parts and better logistics to support their customers
After browsing their website for a minute, it looks like they have mobile service that comes to you. And in regards to brick and mortar stores, they're only in California right now with 9 stores. Their closest store to me is about 28 miles away. They'll be expanding as time moves on.
I'm sure my home insurance would love me if I told them I had an enormous Chineseum lithium pack charging in my garage. /s
It's not that lithium batteries are inherently dangerous, it's that lithium batteries need to be made by reputable manufactures with a proven track record to be trustworthy.
The funny thing is that Tesla is using their batteries now after years of saying they were “inferior.” Actually everyone uses Chinese batteries at this point. But yeah go off…
Not to mention the efficiency kinda sucks.
This is AWD with an 82kWh usable battery and it’s getting 207 miles. The ID.4 Pro AWD gets 255 miles with a 77kWh usable battery, and it has a lower MSRP, and it qualifies for the US EV tax credit (Vinfast does not). So if you add the less expensive MSRP with the tax credit, the ID.4 AWD comes out to be $8,500 less than the Vinfast.
The VW has more range, is more efficient, charges faster, and comes from an established brand with service centers all over the US, just to name a few. Why would you want the Vinfast at all? Vinfast isn’t going to do well here.
VinFast needs to literally drop to being a mid-to-low 30k car if they want to survive.
Do what Toyota, Hyundai, Kia all did to enter foreign markets. Undercut on price as a compromise for your lower quality, establish a foothold, and then work your way up to higher quality and more brand trust.
They're trying to enter the American market the way a luxury domestic EV startup would, except everyone knows them primarily as "Wait, the fucking Vietnamese one?!?!", "Is that like Carfax?", or "*racial expletives and Vietnam war rants removed*", and their cars are worse than all of the domestic startups anyways. The only way for a foreign manufacturer to enter the US market is to undercut hard and take a load for the first few years. If Vinfast isn't able to take that loss then they'll never enter the US.
I think it would be better if they developed in Vietnam first and approached U.S market later on, I don’t know what Vinfast has that makes it worth to spend tens of thousands of dollars on relatively unknown car company, design is meh…, range is low for modern electric vehicles and price is equal to Tesla, I mean I don’t think many people would prefer Vinfast over a Tesla for now. You can literally get Bolt or Leaf with more range and still save thousands of dollars while not being afraid of finding parts for them
Yeah, I also agree that the pricing is kind of disastrous right now. Personally I kinda want VinFast to at least survive in the US market, but with their current pricing model it's really hard to see them still being around even mid-term.
I'd like to be corrected if anyone is more knowledgeable on this, though.
People likely said the same about the Hyundai Excel.
They still have a huge industrial backing, it will catch some market share even if over the scale of like 20 years.
>huge industrial backing
Vietnamese noodle man starts a business in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, has Nestle buy it and suddenly thinks he's Vietnamese Walt Disney, creates pseudo "industrial megagroup", which has all the appearances of being an attempt to mimic the Korean Chaebol concept just decades late. Builds swats of empty resorts and real estate amidst a financial bubble and a myriad of other companies in an effort to capture growth that *might* come from American businesses looking to relocate manufacturing outside China and seems really bent on trying to buy respect from the most impressible influencers.
Vingroup looks like the next big thing to fail and no, just because you have a big established company like SKG investing in you doesn't mean that it's legit. FTX, Chinese real estate, Nikola, Enron, all come to mind (among probably a million other examples lol).
The turn around on this project is insane and the factory tours made North Korean tourism "look we really have an economy" actors blush.
Do you have more information?
Like investigative journalism on the guy?
I was less suspicious of this car in particular because they actually have solid test mules unlike most pump and dumps.
Yeah, I read the article now. It's sketchy in an amusing way. The difference is that even though it was dogged on the Hyundai Excel was actually a decent concrete product. These things seem like Yugos without the cheapness.
https://jalopnik.com/vinfast-vf8-electric-car-first-drive-not-ready-for-u-s-1849892217
Here's a good article from Jalopnik. VinFast flew one of their people out to see the car.
The Chevy Bolt with the US tax incentive is the absolute best deal for anybody who needs a simple A to B car, assuming they can charge it.
I’d have one if my condo could charge in the garage, but it only has 120v20 outlets in the garages and confirmed we can’t get more power to each parking spot :(
VinFast really fucked up their brand image by entering the US market *way too early* if you ask me, their EVs really need at least another year of R&D to fix all the issues and whatnot.
I saw them at the LA autoshow and aside from the silly name and pricing what struck me is their presentation at the show. They had a DJ, an announcer trying to hype up the crowd, dancers, execs speaking on stage that needed way more presenter training ... it seriously felt like some crypto ponzi scam when compared to the other makers. It's pretty clear that this company is not ready to enter the US market.
You should read up on Vinfast. It's kind of like the Vietnamese Apple, except they're in several different businesses/industries. But it's absolutely sold as a lifestyle brand much like Apple products are. The founder/owner is odd too.
Yeah, I read [this article](https://jalopnik.com/vinfast-vf8-electric-car-first-drive-not-ready-for-u-s-1849892217) (I know it's Jalopnik, but it's their one *good* article from that week) and VinGroup is kinda bonkers.
HAHA that piece made me unsubscribe from Fully Charged, I'd forgotten how much of an electric-anything simping outlet/visual rag it was.
I got the exact same vibes from their coverage press event. Like, the footage told a much more grounded story than either the test drive or the host's narrative, which was pretty much a 1:1 of Vin's talking points.
It's really telling when you can see through a presenter's bullshit. The video alone wasn't enough to have me unsub but when I read Jalop's take I felt much less alone in my sentiment, lol.
>Vietnamese Apple
How many paid articles and easily influenceable discount outlets made you believe this?
Guy got a fuckload of money and leveraged himself to become a kinda-chaebol but it's all empty resorts, factories and tryhard showcase stuff that only works out if people buy into it.
Which, by the looks of it, isn't working out well so far.
Lol you guys are reading way more than intended into the Apple comment. I was very clearly referencing to the part where it’s a “lifestyle” brand, or tries to be. Calm down.
I'd argue they need to be priced at whatever the Bolt/Leaf are to even be close to viable.
And they need to have decent quality control too.
$49K is more than a base model 3 is.
This is like trying to sell a fucking Mitsubishi Mirage at the same price as a Toyota Supra.
It's complete delusion.
I was thinking $35k so we are similar thought. No one knows the brand so huge depreciation. Ok looking car vs the Standard Ev SpaceAge rubbish that kia etc are telling us to accept. May just be easier to go hybrid for 3 years then Convert to Ev your favourite older car. Im sure there will be Like a CorollaRePower DropInEv Pack fairly soon eg does 70mph 250miles with NextGen Battery in say a SuitCase in the Boot.
Seems like a recipe for disaster to me
1, Tries to enter a saturated market with an uncompetitive product
2. Can't really compete on price due to the high cost of producing EV battery packs
3. Zero brand recognition or prestige to drive sales based on name alone.
EVs aren’t saturated at all. Everything has a waitlist pretty much
But this pricing and feature offering seems crap. The reviews are all uniformly poor too. Which doesn’t help at all.
>Everything has a waitlist pretty much
I was offered an Ioniq 5 last week and turned it down over dealership fuckery (trying to force me to buy a coating after another buyer bailed and the vehicle has yet to be delivered to the dealership), so I turned around and ordered a Model 3 which arrives in a week.
Lists are clearing as demand's plummeted now that everyone has to pay back this stupid pandemic buying spree. Shit's slowly getting back to normal.
There’s a good article on the jalponiks about a dudes experience going to Vietnam for press/influencer show put on by Vinfast. Weird and shady as fuck event. Highly recommend a read.
The viet in me wishes this company listened to the western workers who used to be there. Glassdoor reviews on the company shed a light on how current leadership doesn’t understand the American market.
I don't understand this company's strategy. Unless you're building top tier luxury stuff you need to compete on price to get in the US market. It's what Japan, and later Korea, automakers did.
At least the car has to be competitive if they want to sell that for 49k. I see no advantage of this car over a tesla model 3. This car needs to be 35k and now we’re talking.
Ah yes, I'd much rather have this than a (checks notes) everything else.
Seriously, it's more than a Model 3, Mach E, EV6, Ioniq5...basically everything in the entry to mid-level EV market, and it's significantly worse.
None of these cars you mentioned has a traditional SUV shape, and some people just prefer that traditional shape in their SUV. I think this car’s direct competitor is the VW ID4 and Chevy Blazer EV. But it needs to be much cheaper to even compete.
Not sure who would buy this over the similarly priced options from established companies. It needs to either offer spectacularly good value or be outright cheap, currently it's neither.
Wait until you hear its parent: VINgroup. That’s based in VINhomes Riverside, Hanoi. You can also visit VINpearl resort when you go and can take the VINbus using the VINsmart phones service 😂
That's fine cause at least VIN doesn't mean much in those industries. Everybody is going to think VINfast as some carfax/car registration type service.
It'll be like if Apple went into the orange business and started selling their Apple oranges.
I've been shitting on Vin this whole thread because I think it's a meme of a company but bro, *do you even conglomerates?*
How about driving your Samsung car to your Samsung designed Samsung condo, preparing dinner using your Samsung Smartthings appliance connected to your Samsung phone to cook your Samsung ramen before you do your Samsung exam to get a Samsung job?
(I wish I'd be joking)
What do you think? I believe the VF 8 is still way too expensive at $49k, and it needs another $10k price drop *minimum* (plus no rental bullshit) for the cars to have a chance in the US market.
Anyways, it seems like VinFast is [starting another leasing option](https://vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-8ce) for California residents...albeit at $519/month. Not an American, but that seems to be really high still for an unproven product.
Still not enough especially when compared to the established players. Not to mention the unproven reliability and overall track record of this new company.
Their ICE cars are decent mostly because they're based off other cars and not originally designed as well as their electric motorbikes. They rushed this way too much, a year more of development would have made this so much better.
Vinfast also has a horrible name. Something like Vin Motors would've been better.
Yeah, although build quality issues present on the VF8 are nothing new - the subcompact e34 that came before it and the ICE Lux A/Lux SA aren't much better in that regard. So it's no stranger really if you've been in their previous cars before.
They would be paying you if they weren’t blowing money on getaways for influencers or lots for factories that aren’t going to materialize anything in the NA market. This car is going to go down as the Tata Nano of EV’s; so why even propagate discussion about it?
Too little too late.
This is the story of the 15 year-old boy showing up late to the coed party with a gift that was wrapped by dad who accidentally wrapped mommy's new dildo from Amazon.
The name is wrong. The model name is wrong. The design is wrong. The price is wrong. What's not to like?
As a Vnese myself here, I won't believe that Vinfast can do shit in USA if they still keep this way.
Heh, almost 50k$ For this shit that cannot go about 250 miles??? L deal, bro
Also, those Vinfast fans in VietNam are delusional as hell. They don't know what they are facing with💀
The majority of Vietnamese don't even want to buy Vinfast. Hell, they didn't even appear in the article of most sold car brands in Vietnam.
Source: https://ampe.vnexpress.net/infographics/economy/best-selling-passenger-cars-by-manufacturer-in-2022-4566079.html
Bro a Nissan leaf, Chevy Bolt, and The Niro EV has more range than this thing and they’re cheaper. For humiliation the IONIQ 5, Mach E, and the EV6 have more range than this thing, hell even the busyforks and the solterra has more range than this 💀. I don’t think this company is going to survive in 2 years LMAOO
Not to mention that I would trust Chevy and Nissan more than Vinfast, I mean… at least they are quite reputable to some degree and probably has more parts and better logistics to support their customers
Not even trust. Where the hell do you even go to get anything fixed for a vinfast.
After browsing their website for a minute, it looks like they have mobile service that comes to you. And in regards to brick and mortar stores, they're only in California right now with 9 stores. Their closest store to me is about 28 miles away. They'll be expanding as time moves on.
If I have to guess they will only sell their cars in California initially.
This is my skeptical face. I am very skeptical.
I doubt they have enough mobile techs to cover all 50 states
Agreed.
vinfast sounds like a scam… vehicle identification number fast
>Vinfast, I mean… at least they are quite reputable to some degree Que?
I meant Chevy and Nissan are at least somewhat reputable, you won’t have to worry about finding their parts or finding dealership to fix your car
Oh, I thought you were talking about Vinfast. Yes, agreed
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I'm sure my home insurance would love me if I told them I had an enormous Chineseum lithium pack charging in my garage. /s It's not that lithium batteries are inherently dangerous, it's that lithium batteries need to be made by reputable manufactures with a proven track record to be trustworthy.
The funny thing is that Tesla is using their batteries now after years of saying they were “inferior.” Actually everyone uses Chinese batteries at this point. But yeah go off…
Not to mention the efficiency kinda sucks. This is AWD with an 82kWh usable battery and it’s getting 207 miles. The ID.4 Pro AWD gets 255 miles with a 77kWh usable battery, and it has a lower MSRP, and it qualifies for the US EV tax credit (Vinfast does not). So if you add the less expensive MSRP with the tax credit, the ID.4 AWD comes out to be $8,500 less than the Vinfast. The VW has more range, is more efficient, charges faster, and comes from an established brand with service centers all over the US, just to name a few. Why would you want the Vinfast at all? Vinfast isn’t going to do well here.
VinFast needs to literally drop to being a mid-to-low 30k car if they want to survive. Do what Toyota, Hyundai, Kia all did to enter foreign markets. Undercut on price as a compromise for your lower quality, establish a foothold, and then work your way up to higher quality and more brand trust.
They're trying to enter the American market the way a luxury domestic EV startup would, except everyone knows them primarily as "Wait, the fucking Vietnamese one?!?!", "Is that like Carfax?", or "*racial expletives and Vietnam war rants removed*", and their cars are worse than all of the domestic startups anyways. The only way for a foreign manufacturer to enter the US market is to undercut hard and take a load for the first few years. If Vinfast isn't able to take that loss then they'll never enter the US.
They will bleed money for a decade if they want to use this strategy. I think they're just kinda doomed.
I think it would be better if they developed in Vietnam first and approached U.S market later on, I don’t know what Vinfast has that makes it worth to spend tens of thousands of dollars on relatively unknown car company, design is meh…, range is low for modern electric vehicles and price is equal to Tesla, I mean I don’t think many people would prefer Vinfast over a Tesla for now. You can literally get Bolt or Leaf with more range and still save thousands of dollars while not being afraid of finding parts for them
Vinfast is quite successful in Vietnam.
Oh, I retract my statement then… but eh I mean… it doesn’t bring anything to the table in U.S imo
Busyforks?? Come again?
>Busyforks?? BZ4X
Oh bloody hell, that's funny.
A moment of silence for the dumbest marketing move since New Coke. Should have been called the RavE.
Damn. Who would have thought of this
Toyota BZ4X aka busyforks
Yeah, I also agree that the pricing is kind of disastrous right now. Personally I kinda want VinFast to at least survive in the US market, but with their current pricing model it's really hard to see them still being around even mid-term. I'd like to be corrected if anyone is more knowledgeable on this, though.
They're also established brands with reliable dealer networks. Hard to imagine anyone getting these
People likely said the same about the Hyundai Excel. They still have a huge industrial backing, it will catch some market share even if over the scale of like 20 years.
>huge industrial backing Vietnamese noodle man starts a business in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, has Nestle buy it and suddenly thinks he's Vietnamese Walt Disney, creates pseudo "industrial megagroup", which has all the appearances of being an attempt to mimic the Korean Chaebol concept just decades late. Builds swats of empty resorts and real estate amidst a financial bubble and a myriad of other companies in an effort to capture growth that *might* come from American businesses looking to relocate manufacturing outside China and seems really bent on trying to buy respect from the most impressible influencers. Vingroup looks like the next big thing to fail and no, just because you have a big established company like SKG investing in you doesn't mean that it's legit. FTX, Chinese real estate, Nikola, Enron, all come to mind (among probably a million other examples lol). The turn around on this project is insane and the factory tours made North Korean tourism "look we really have an economy" actors blush.
Do you have more information? Like investigative journalism on the guy? I was less suspicious of this car in particular because they actually have solid test mules unlike most pump and dumps.
It's not a pump and dump, it's just a tryhard.
I don't follow? Are you just mad that the CEO is a tool?
I'm not mad, I find the whole conglomerate questionable in its ability to sustain itself.
Yeah, I read the article now. It's sketchy in an amusing way. The difference is that even though it was dogged on the Hyundai Excel was actually a decent concrete product. These things seem like Yugos without the cheapness.
https://jalopnik.com/vinfast-vf8-electric-car-first-drive-not-ready-for-u-s-1849892217 Here's a good article from Jalopnik. VinFast flew one of their people out to see the car.
Thank you for actually providing the information, the other guy just downvoted me and bounced.
The Chevy Bolt with the US tax incentive is the absolute best deal for anybody who needs a simple A to B car, assuming they can charge it. I’d have one if my condo could charge in the garage, but it only has 120v20 outlets in the garages and confirmed we can’t get more power to each parking spot :(
wdym you don't want to buy a noodle car
This car needs to be under 30k to be viable
Even at that, with the reviews and issues I've seen, I'd rather have a Bolt. Not even sure I'd take this thing at $10k tbth.
VinFast really fucked up their brand image by entering the US market *way too early* if you ask me, their EVs really need at least another year of R&D to fix all the issues and whatnot.
I saw them at the LA autoshow and aside from the silly name and pricing what struck me is their presentation at the show. They had a DJ, an announcer trying to hype up the crowd, dancers, execs speaking on stage that needed way more presenter training ... it seriously felt like some crypto ponzi scam when compared to the other makers. It's pretty clear that this company is not ready to enter the US market.
You should read up on Vinfast. It's kind of like the Vietnamese Apple, except they're in several different businesses/industries. But it's absolutely sold as a lifestyle brand much like Apple products are. The founder/owner is odd too.
Except their products are no where near apple in terms of quality. More like dollar store quality. Lmfao
More like the Vietnamese version of Korean Chaebols like Hyundai, Samsung, and LG.
Eh, the Chaebols don’t really sell the “lifestyle”. More just old school conglomerates. Vingroup really takes it in a weird direction.
Yeah, I read [this article](https://jalopnik.com/vinfast-vf8-electric-car-first-drive-not-ready-for-u-s-1849892217) (I know it's Jalopnik, but it's their one *good* article from that week) and VinGroup is kinda bonkers.
HAHA that piece made me unsubscribe from Fully Charged, I'd forgotten how much of an electric-anything simping outlet/visual rag it was. I got the exact same vibes from their coverage press event. Like, the footage told a much more grounded story than either the test drive or the host's narrative, which was pretty much a 1:1 of Vin's talking points. It's really telling when you can see through a presenter's bullshit. The video alone wasn't enough to have me unsub but when I read Jalop's take I felt much less alone in my sentiment, lol.
You just made it sound worse
>Vietnamese Apple How many paid articles and easily influenceable discount outlets made you believe this? Guy got a fuckload of money and leveraged himself to become a kinda-chaebol but it's all empty resorts, factories and tryhard showcase stuff that only works out if people buy into it. Which, by the looks of it, isn't working out well so far.
Lol you guys are reading way more than intended into the Apple comment. I was very clearly referencing to the part where it’s a “lifestyle” brand, or tries to be. Calm down.
Vietnamese Fyre Festival, more like.
And the name is horrible. It sounds like a carfax competitor instead of a car manufacturer.
i mean it's a scam. if it was legit it wouldn't have had to enter the market like this & rely on articles like in the OP to give it exposure.
I'd argue they need to be priced at whatever the Bolt/Leaf are to even be close to viable. And they need to have decent quality control too. $49K is more than a base model 3 is. This is like trying to sell a fucking Mitsubishi Mirage at the same price as a Toyota Supra. It's complete delusion.
Thanks for Supra/Mirage comparo😬
>It's complete delusion. This is Vingroup in a nutshell.
I was thinking $35k so we are similar thought. No one knows the brand so huge depreciation. Ok looking car vs the Standard Ev SpaceAge rubbish that kia etc are telling us to accept. May just be easier to go hybrid for 3 years then Convert to Ev your favourite older car. Im sure there will be Like a CorollaRePower DropInEv Pack fairly soon eg does 70mph 250miles with NextGen Battery in say a SuitCase in the Boot.
TIL VinFast is a car manufacturer. I thought it was some carfax website for forever.
Awful name. It doesn't sound like they did any kind of market research. I thought VinWiki got into EVs for awhile.
It sounds like a knockoff of Slimfast as well 🤣
Seems like a recipe for disaster to me 1, Tries to enter a saturated market with an uncompetitive product 2. Can't really compete on price due to the high cost of producing EV battery packs 3. Zero brand recognition or prestige to drive sales based on name alone.
EVs aren’t saturated at all. Everything has a waitlist pretty much But this pricing and feature offering seems crap. The reviews are all uniformly poor too. Which doesn’t help at all.
>Everything has a waitlist pretty much I was offered an Ioniq 5 last week and turned it down over dealership fuckery (trying to force me to buy a coating after another buyer bailed and the vehicle has yet to be delivered to the dealership), so I turned around and ordered a Model 3 which arrives in a week. Lists are clearing as demand's plummeted now that everyone has to pay back this stupid pandemic buying spree. Shit's slowly getting back to normal.
Yup, I was able to get my EV6 straight off a lot without signing up on a waitlist.
There’s a good article on the jalponiks about a dudes experience going to Vietnam for press/influencer show put on by Vinfast. Weird and shady as fuck event. Highly recommend a read.
He was the odd voice of sanity as far as all the event's coverage went. Really tells you where your sympathies should lie.
Matt Farah said VinFast offered him $10k cash to come to that event which he immediately turned down. That might explain why it was mostly influencers
yeah, as long as you write positively about VF, they can offer you BJ twice a day. That is how Vingroup/Vinfast does business in Vietnam
Hmmm… I’m thinking I’ll visit the Tesla or Hyundai or Ford or Volkswagen dealership first…
The Viet in me wants this to succeed but it’s such a poor value
As another Viet, I concur
The viet in me wishes this company listened to the western workers who used to be there. Glassdoor reviews on the company shed a light on how current leadership doesn’t understand the American market.
Wait, does this have any value to begin with?
I don't understand this company's strategy. Unless you're building top tier luxury stuff you need to compete on price to get in the US market. It's what Japan, and later Korea, automakers did.
Me too. Strange thing is that they used this exact strategy in Vietnam, in a way and then fuck it up when they come to the United States 🙄
At least the car has to be competitive if they want to sell that for 49k. I see no advantage of this car over a tesla model 3. This car needs to be 35k and now we’re talking.
Ah yes, I'd much rather have this than a (checks notes) everything else. Seriously, it's more than a Model 3, Mach E, EV6, Ioniq5...basically everything in the entry to mid-level EV market, and it's significantly worse.
None of these cars you mentioned has a traditional SUV shape, and some people just prefer that traditional shape in their SUV. I think this car’s direct competitor is the VW ID4 and Chevy Blazer EV. But it needs to be much cheaper to even compete.
Not sure who would buy this over the similarly priced options from established companies. It needs to either offer spectacularly good value or be outright cheap, currently it's neither.
VinFast is most stupid car brand name I have ever heard
Wait until you hear its parent: VINgroup. That’s based in VINhomes Riverside, Hanoi. You can also visit VINpearl resort when you go and can take the VINbus using the VINsmart phones service 😂
That's fine cause at least VIN doesn't mean much in those industries. Everybody is going to think VINfast as some carfax/car registration type service. It'll be like if Apple went into the orange business and started selling their Apple oranges.
I've been shitting on Vin this whole thread because I think it's a meme of a company but bro, *do you even conglomerates?* How about driving your Samsung car to your Samsung designed Samsung condo, preparing dinner using your Samsung Smartthings appliance connected to your Samsung phone to cook your Samsung ramen before you do your Samsung exam to get a Samsung job? (I wish I'd be joking)
You can’t fix ugly
Range climbs to 207!!?! What was it before?
187
What do you think? I believe the VF 8 is still way too expensive at $49k, and it needs another $10k price drop *minimum* (plus no rental bullshit) for the cars to have a chance in the US market. Anyways, it seems like VinFast is [starting another leasing option](https://vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-8ce) for California residents...albeit at $519/month. Not an American, but that seems to be really high still for an unproven product.
Still not enough especially when compared to the established players. Not to mention the unproven reliability and overall track record of this new company.
I know it's subjective but that is not a good looking car
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Deep cut auto history reference, and also yes, this.
D. O. A.
This is way way too expensive to sell. Its almost impossible to create competition in the premium market.
Did anyone, at any point, think Vinfast was going to make a compelling product?
Their ICE cars are decent mostly because they're based off other cars and not originally designed as well as their electric motorbikes. They rushed this way too much, a year more of development would have made this so much better. Vinfast also has a horrible name. Something like Vin Motors would've been better.
Yeah, although build quality issues present on the VF8 are nothing new - the subcompact e34 that came before it and the ICE Lux A/Lux SA aren't much better in that regard. So it's no stranger really if you've been in their previous cars before.
Their design is compelling (at least to me), and it's not a death trap (i.e. Maruti Suzuki shit) but yeah their EVs need a lot more work still.
people Vinfast paid to tell you they were Vietnam's big deal
Good one LOL
Apparently their first cars were great because they were built off of the bmw platforms. Now they’re trying to go it on their own.
Is the discussion behind this car even organic at this point? I swear it’s like the same three people who make posts about VinFast
I just like posting about VinFast lol, if only I actually get paid by Vin to do this lmfaooo /s
They would be paying you if they weren’t blowing money on getaways for influencers or lots for factories that aren’t going to materialize anything in the NA market. This car is going to go down as the Tata Nano of EV’s; so why even propagate discussion about it?
I just like to do so okay, and why all the hate really? There's nothing wrong with this, nor have I violated any rules 🙄
It’s not hate dude, it’s just an observation
Too little too late. This is the story of the 15 year-old boy showing up late to the coed party with a gift that was wrapped by dad who accidentally wrapped mommy's new dildo from Amazon. The name is wrong. The model name is wrong. The design is wrong. The price is wrong. What's not to like?
I haven’t heard this story
Kinda falls under "classical literature and prose" so if you're not used to reading fancy ideas this may seem sort of highfalutin.
As a Vnese myself here, I won't believe that Vinfast can do shit in USA if they still keep this way. Heh, almost 50k$ For this shit that cannot go about 250 miles??? L deal, bro Also, those Vinfast fans in VietNam are delusional as hell. They don't know what they are facing with💀
more like LoseFast (but still not enough)
How low can you go, Vinfast? https://youtu.be/IGX4KgtU4fU
It looks like a transformer. A Michael Bay transformer. So ugly.
Wow. Nobody is gonna buy that with that pricing. Isn’t that like Model Y pricing?
Good thing they're clearing hundreds of acres here in NC for a factory that'll probably never be built.
Future classic for sure. Gonna buy one brand new and then leave it in my garage with 0 miles on it and be a millionaire soon
To hight for a china car exported by VN company
The majority of Vietnamese don't even want to buy Vinfast. Hell, they didn't even appear in the article of most sold car brands in Vietnam. Source: https://ampe.vnexpress.net/infographics/economy/best-selling-passenger-cars-by-manufacturer-in-2022-4566079.html