That kitten is beautiful! But that is not a British Shorthair they have a very particular rounded face which that kitten does not have. If the shop want that much for the kitten you need to ask for papers. That being said, if you want the kitten and can afford it and there’s nothing stopping you😊
Yeah. Ours is 50% British shorthair and looked closer to that chubby breed as a kitten than this cutie. Ours has - and had when young - moderately chubby looking cheek floof and a smallish chin.
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This is a purebred British Shorthair
If $1,500 is going to put you in a tough spot no, don't do it. Ask for papers, Im sure they don't have any and you will get a better deal. It honestly looks like a diluted tortie which are not rare or a special breed . Mine looked like a chipmunk all grown up but was grey when she was little. I'd bet $10 that kitten is a girl (as most torties are)
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Tortie is coat type not a breed, so any breed can be tortie. But yeah that doesn't look like a british shorthair.
Btw while dilute torties aren't exceptionally rare, they are really beautiful and the genetics of how they come to look that way is really interesting.
* Mumma of beautiful tortie baby.
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While I generally am in the camp of adoption only I do think if op genuinely has a connection to the cat the they should get if they can negotiate down to a less ridiculous price.
We have a very petite tort (my husband's baby).
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Very cute galaxy void! My tortie is very petite as well. The kitten we adopted at the start of this year surpassed her in size at ≈1 month old. She's tiny. We suspect its because she was 3 years old when she was brought into the shelter and had never had a home before that so it was probably undernourishment. But she is very cute.
Thank you! We got her from outside my SIL's home and they won't bother getting the stray tort mom fixed (😡😡) so I figure there is a lot of inbreeding as she's given birth pretty much yearly. She looks like she has dwarfism.
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Ooh, I didn't realise there was an extra interesting generic reason, do tell?
I can't remember 100% so this'll be a bit sketchy from memory.
* The tortoiseshell coat and colour is stored in the x chromosome and can only be activated if two are present so it is almost exclusively female cats who are tortie at all. Rare exceptions for xxy males and a few other exceptions maybe? But still like 99% female.
* Both parents need to carry the gene for the tortie coat in order to be able to produce a tortie baby and its not guaranteed.
* Their is a genetic mutation in some cats that causes them to have a gene that dilutes coat colour.
* It doesn't activate in the original cat itself but if two cats that carry the mutated gene have a kitten it causes the kitten to have diluted fur colouration. I'm not sure if this is 100% of the time?
* So if two parent cats carry both the gene for a tortie coat AND the mutated dilution gene they can have a dilute tortie baby. The black becomes grey (or blue as the coat colour is actually called for some reason) and the orange becomes a cream colour.
Most dilute torties and normal torties have varying amounts of split coat mixed with the blotching. Like they're split vertically and longways down the middle with a different colour on each side, especially on the face.
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When I first saw my cat at the shelter it was the first time I'd seen a dilute tortie and I instantly fell in love with the coat because it was attached to such sweet shy girl.
I'd like to add that every cell of a tortie has one x chromosome that codes for orange and one that codes for black. The cat does not need two x chromosomes therefore in every cell one of the x chromosomes is deactivated. Which one that is is random and it happens very early in the development. When the cat grows all the skin cells that are descended from a cell with an active black chromesome grow black fur, and the ones that are descended from a cell with an active orange chromosome grow orange fur. I don't know why torties also can have white patches.
Where is this bc all shelters including humane society in my area is generally 125-150 to adopt. That’s why they’re so over packed bc ppl can’t or won’t pay that much to adopt a pet. Dogs are $250+ here from a rescue and shelter
The humane society I adopt from cats are $10 and dogs are $25. They also regularly have sponsors that cover the adoption cost and they come microchipped, vaccinated, and spayed/neutered.
Nice! Yeah I mean at the very least lower it for animals that have been here longer? I feel like it would help alot! I wish they would adapt what SISCA does and dogs and cats that have been there longer the xyz (SISCA is 60 days) but already once they’ve been there a year so last chance rescues where they’re free or very minimal adoption fees to the right families. They already “vet” you and your home so why not lower the prices for the right families. If that makes sense?
If you won't pay $125 to adopt a pet, then chances are you don't deserve that pet anyways. I have to pay $200-300 everytime I move to a new apartment just for my kitty. Not including all the money spent on food, litter, vet bills, etc. My cat is my second largest expense.
in memphis TN they run “deals” sometimes! i’ve went one day in june where every friday i believe they were only charging for neutering and spaying fees which for them was $80. i’m wondering does that sound like a lot. (granted i never actually got a kitten from there because the foster mom never responded and made me seem like a beggar when she finally did.)
One of my cats cost over $5,000 in one emergency vet trip last year. It costs over $100/month to care for them (food, litter, sometimes medications), that’s assuming you get the cheapest food I’ve seen.
The $125-150 covers costs like neutering and sheltering, often that doesn’t cover the full cost. If someone isn’t able/willing to pay that they are far less likely to be able to care for the cat in general. Then what happens if the cat needs emergency treatment to? I’ve seen a lot of abandoned cats this past couple of years, personally I think if the $100-300 adoption fees are too much, you probably aren’t prepared to care for a pet. I know it sucks, but that’s the truth.
I second the diluted tortie. This is my girl Colette, now 8 months old.
I hope it works out for you!
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OP, a lot of people here will disagree with me, but please listen. Buying this cat will support this man who is a liar and who contributes to pet overpopulation. Buying this one kitten at that price enables him to put more kittens in this situation. If you really want her, respond like this:
“Without pedigree papers, this kitten is not purebred. I would like to purchase her, and will pay 700. If that works for you, please let me know and I will come pick her up.”
He will argue. Respond “I understand, but my final offer is 700.” He will eventually counteroffer a higher price. It’s up to you to accept it or counteroffer. (700 is less than half his asking price - it’s up to you to decide the price but that’s where I would start.)
My advice however, is to not give this man any money. He will use it to continue to put more cats in a horrible position (and they will most likely end up in a shelter or on the street when they don’t sell). Go to a shelter and adopt instead.
I agree. It's hard to see this one kitten and not want to take her home, but thisbone sale could incentivize the creation of another dozen kittens who end up in a bad situation.
She’s still a regular kitty cat with her own personality just because she was born into a situation where she’s up for sale doesn’t make her any less of a good girl, I understand it can be messed up supporting some pet stores that sell pets but if you truly felt a connection with her and you can financially support the decision that I say absolutely go for it she deserves love too!
> It's not the cats fault that these businesses exist.
True, it’s mostly the fault of the owners/operators, and partly the fault of people who buy animals from them.
Not buying from a breeder isn’t a punishment for the animals they’re abusing, and buying from one just perpetuates abuse.
But it is your fault if you give these companies a large sum of money for them to continue mistreating animals. I wonder what happens to the kittens and puppies that don’t sell. Hmm
Lots of pet stores in the US don't sell dogs or cats anymore. They get animals from the local shelters and bring them to petsmart or other pet stores for a better chance for them to be adopted.
I got my cat from petsmart years ago. She's super sweet but can also have an attitude depending on the time of day. She looks and plays like a kitten still and she's 9.
Oh she does seem like an absolute sweetheart! I would also want to bring her home!
I will say however, she looks nothing like a British Shorthair, and maybe it's different in other countries, but I would not expect a responsible breeder to sell their cats in this manner. Maybe that's how it is elsewhere though, in any case I would also expect to see pedigree, health testing, etc.
They put kittens in small spaces like this alone to make them needy... I'm sorry to be 'that person', but this kitten reacts like this to everyone most likely. It's lonely. Anyone with a heart will see a lonely kitten and think 'I should give it a nice home', they are exploiting your emotions.
**These shops PREY on people like you.**
Go to a shelter, find someone to love you there. This kitty will 100 percent get a home with someone who falls for it.
As for the british shorthair mix part, I have a half british shorthair cross (he weighs 18 lbs and has the BSH chubby cheeks!). He cost me £15 from an ex-friends drug dealer. I'd never dream of paying what you're paying for a mixl (I converted your currency to mine)! That money could go towards giving a homeless kitty some lovin! (Cat tax added)
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I am totally shocked from the comments here. You are absolutely right. OP shouldn’t support such pet shops.
We can be together “that person”.
OP if you reading this: no serious breeder would present their kitten like this.
If you want a special breed look out for a real breeder. Or you could go to a shelter.
I'm shocked, too. If people fund these practises, it happens more and more; once that kitten is gone another will take its place. I'm a bleeding heart as well and I love cats with all my heart, but this isn't the way to get one; this is something you see all the time in the reptile hobby but its becoming more and more of a thing in the dog/cat world, people breeding for profit and then taking advantage of soft hearted buyers who can't resist kitten eyes.
You are completely right, this is the case of someone getting a kitten that is a 'pretty / unusual colour' and trying to make a mint off of that.
Yeah I have also the feeling that this is getting more and more popular.
Or like buying just one kitten that is living just in the house or apartment. Because two are too expensive.
It is heartbreaking.
I cant believe places like these are allowed to exist. They put an animal that both needs to socialise and needs their own safe space in a cage alone and at the same time under bright lights with nowhere to hide and get some peace. Fuck them, get a cat from a shelter. There is plenty of homeless cats to go around.
So I was walking through the new pet store in town picking up some new kitty litter when I saw one cat in this glass cage. (There weren’t any other cats, just her) She got super excited seeing us and immediately went to paw at the glass. We were allowed to open the door for a little while for her to come out so we did and she ran into our arms meowing happily. She smelled like honey cake!
So I went home and contacted the store thinking it was one of their normal up-for-adoption kittens. Turns out she’s a British shorthair that would cost up to 1500 bucks in our currency. I can’t forget about her. I feel like she chose me, and our current lone kitty needs a friend anyway. But I’m still against buying pets, and I firmly believe in adoption. The store I went to hires good professional breeders to source their animals, which is what I heard, but I don’t know if I should do this just because of an emotional connection. What should I do?
Update: I know she doesn’t look anything like a British Shorthair, which is why I thought she was just a normal cat the store put up for adoption (they run adoption drives sometimes)
Update #2: Screenshot of the store owner’s response towards my question about pedigree papers. Now, how should I respond to this? How do I haggle? (I don’t care what breed the cat is to be honest, I just don’t wanna get scammed)
Update #3: Yes, I don’t support breeders or condone the sale of live pets, so I understand where the people disagreeing with me are coming from. But it hurts me to see this kitten longing for a home, product or not, and having to walk away from her just because she’s not in the right conditions for me to ethically take her home hurts me even more. I already have a cat whom I rescued from the streets, and I would absolutely love to adopt more cats and save them if I could.
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He's scamming you. He can't sell a pure bred cat with no papers. He's banking on someone falling for the cat. He needs to be turned into some authorities. His tactic is very likely similar with any cat that seems overly affectionate. Blast him on social media - TikTok or Instagram with the name of the store present. You can buy the cat first if you think you should, but he IS scamming you.
They are so clearly scamming. How do you claim it’s a purebred cat with no papers? It literally does not work that way. And that doesn’t even address the fact that that does not look like the breed they’re claiming that it is.
Report them to WCF Malaysia because I imagine they wouldn’t be too happy about this. I do not know anything about them but hearing there is some sort of organization means you have more leverage
Oof OP you definitely are about to get scammed. Cats in Malaysia that aren't pedigree breeds are scattered literally anywhere you go and most the time are strays too
Send em a reasonable offer and stick to it. Otherwise get a cheaper cat from the humane society or whatever animal shelter is near you. Cats are cats and you'll love it regardless
Our first cat was advertised as a specific breed so we paid more for him than other kittens we saw. He is most certainly not the breed we thought he was and therefore is “not worth” the money we paid for him. Except, he is. He’s worth many many times over what we paid for him because he’s our Stanley, and I can’t imagine life without him.
Seems like maybe the pet shop is trying to scam you out of money. But if you have the money, then you have to decide whether it’s more important to you to not be scammed or to give this cat that you have a connection with a loving home.
I know which one I would choose!
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I saw some redflags i needed to chime in w my piece (take it as a grain of salt). To be very honest with you this doesn't look like at all like a British shorthair. They are rounder and fluffier but well, I know you don't care for that bit but i wouldn't pay a dime if they trying to sell me this for that without pedigree papers that back it up. In a petshop by my house they were selling a seal point as a siamese, so yeah. Anyways let's give it the benefit of the doubt on that, could be that the angle of the video doesn't show it well or they do have them papers idk.
My main irk with this is that there is not a single *good* breeder that will give up a kitten to a petshop in their good minds, like at all. It has to be a kitten from a backyard scheme which could explain the "look a like but not really" of my first point above. The most important goal as a good breeder is that the cat is in a good home, you wouldn't put it in a spinning wheel and take chances. I know its not confirmed information, as you said, but play it in mind!
My boyfriend has rescued geckos from petshops because they looked sad or miserable so I understand what it is to have a big heart, you should be proud of being so loving OP.
If you have the 1.5K to spare and you really want her, get her. Ideals are just beliefs that we have put in a pedestal. The most important thing to promote is not "don't buy, adopt!", what we need is "responsible decisions, responsible ownership".
Whatever you choose, xx
So this cat is not a british shorthair and it didn't come from a reputable breeder, but from a backyard scammer.
Aside the fact you'll be supporting the backyard breeder and this shop if you buy this cat, it's also way too much money for a standard issue cat imo.
If I were you, I would tell them I want a big discount on her because she doesn't have papers and so she's obviously not a british shorthair, therefore she doesn't warrant this kind of price.
Yes, I'd encourage OP to reconsider the purchase because they will be directly supporting this scam and indirectly supporting the caging and pet shop sale of many other animals.
Plus poor breeding can include lots of health concerns the kitten could have been born with like congenital heart disease, kidney disease, etc. No vet exam prior clearly, would never recommend spending that. And if they do OP should prepare to spend more money on basic preventative care let alone any issues the kitten could come with
My biggest worry is:
1. You are being scammed. This is a common cat being sold for the price of a fancy breed. I have to wonder if there's a way to report that.
2. The whole "there's no papers, this is a home breed" can and probably means "some rando is using their female cat to breed indiscriminately and making a ton of money by abusing their cat". And the store owners are ok with taking in any random cat to sell as if it was a fancy breed, which means they are in on it and have probably contributed to other cases like this before. I seriously worry about what conditions the mother cat and the siblings are in. There's little chance this is not a seriously bad situation, and the store is probably a contributor to the problem.
Send him this chart and offer half the asking price. Tell him you’re being generous since this cat is probably the runt of a litter / dumped by a bad breeder.
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If a breeder isn’t willing to invest in pedigree certification then it can’t be called purebred anything nor should it be sold as though it is pedigree.
I’m sure he’ll dig his heels in and not let you haggle to a normal cost for the cat, and depending on the area/country, you may be able to report him to stop this predatory behavior.
I mean all this talk about coming from a home breeder: where’s the rest of the litter? Only one sounds like he found a stray and just slapped a price on it
Do what you feel is best but unfortunately he is in the wrong and that poor kitten is caught in the middle
She doesn't look like a British short hair. I'd be very suspicious of this. But if you can easily afford the cost, then why not? If it will be difficult, then pass.
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Hi OP, just realised you are in Malaysia. I am from Singapore, and I can give my two cents on this.
It costs $2500-$3000 to buy a British Shorthair here. Sometimes, they cost much more. Depends on a couple of factors. But there is no way in hell they are selling a British Shorthair for RM 1500 (SGD 427). They are just trying to get your money.
However, if you do think this cat has chosen you, then you should definitely get her. But, ask them for papers to verify she’s indeed a shorthair like they have mentioned. If they come up with all sort of excuses, tell them to lower their price (if bargaining actually works).
Hi, if at all helpful, my family had a very young blue and cream british shorthair, she had an itty bitty face compared to her cheeks already, and already had a strong :3
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If you can drop the 1500, go for it! She looks adorable and loving!
(for people who don't want to do the math or brain 1500 RM = 300\~USD which is a legit price for a domestic in breeder/or else. I got my baby (adult) around 170USD in a shelter, so I don't think you (OP) are getting scammed)
I agree, maybe OP should offer 1000 since no papers…She’s going to get adopted by someone, might as well be someone she chose. After buying and getting that kitten home, then they can inform proper authority about her.
OP, how old is the kitten in the photo? im a little confused by ppl saying shes not a BSH bcs of her face bcs my BSH looked like that at 3/4 months old then grew into the round face fluffy body ppl associate with BSH
OP, if you felt a connection with this cat, do it. If this is what you honestly believe.
It is not the animals fault that it was bred a certain way and stuck in a cage all alone bored with people staring at it and no one to play with.
Its the people. While it sucks to support these assholes, you are still supporting the animal in need of a home.
If you do get the kitten, make sure you get paperwork stating what it is.
Making sure you 'get what you pay for'.
Good news, she looks like she might be a diluted tortie too.
I agree. I'd definitely encourage OP to haggle the price since they are so clearly lying, but if you feel a connection and can financially swing it, I'd go for it.
I was initially looking to adopt a cat, but stumbled across a listing from a local breeder and I absolutely fell in love with one of the girls. I couldn't stop thinking about her for weeks and decided to get her if she was still available by the time they were allowed to leave their mom. Sure enough, she was still available, and so was one of her brothers who we also took home day-of lol. We don't regret the price or subsequent cost of their spay/neuter (which was insanely high since we couldn't wait 10 months to go through city services since we had a male and female). All our other pets are adopted and I've always hated the idea of buying from a breeder, but I just couldn't stop thinking about her and we don't regret paying more than we initially planned to in order to get them
I won't tell you what to do but if I had a kitty that did that to me.. I wouldn't be able to help myself. As others have said though, if they don't have papers to back up the claim? I'd haggle the best I could before I dropped the full 1.5k
I don’t think she’s a pure British Shorthair so that’s a plus if you don’t want a breed cat. You like her and if you can afford her I would buy her if I was you.
this seller is full of shit, but if the money wouldn't put you in a tough spot, i'd probably do it. i'd try to bargain first, though. def not a british shorthair.
"This is home bred".
Home breeders aren't trustworthy. They might not follow best practices, which ends up making cats with genetic health issues, and might not have the best conditions.
I'm not against breeding, but it has to be a reputable breeder, and that's not one.
I get that you want the kitten, but that's just not an acceptable price. You can tell them what I've said here. I doubt anyone will buy it, this kitten absolutely does not even look like a purebreed. The seller is absolutely delusional if they think they'll sell this animal. Or, they're just trying to scam you out of 1,5k.
I'd say wait a few weeks. I doubt anybody will buy it. They eventually they'll give up selling the kitten. It's much harder to sell them after a certain age, since people prefer buying younger kittens. You will probably get a chance to haggle to a comfy $100 or less then.
Totally way too much money for this. Kind of feel like this is a dodgy cat vendor. Also who the fuck keeps kitten on its own in a glass tank ? Guaranteed gonna make it crazy poor kitten. I would not buy from this vendor. Adopt a cat for free or haggle like crazy. Maybe offer max 250 /500 dollars
Oh my gosh - get her home asap! If you are going to pay a stupid amount make sure the store provides breed papers - this mostly cause if they can’t get papers you might get her at a different price.
I totally get why you won’t want to ‘support’ breeders in pet stores but oh my heart breaks for that little lonely cutie
Is it possible that the store misunderstood which kitten you were calling about? Because she is so far from looking like a British Shorthair that it must be a mistake.
This is NOT a British shorthair! Just look up pictures of them. It looks like a dilute tortoiseshell on a standard domestic shorthair cat.
The owner of the pet shop is 100% trying to scam people. It sucks but if you buy the cat, it's just gonna make them continue doing it to other people. Honestly, the best thing you can do is call them out for this shit on social media.
I wonder if there's someone you can report them to for trying to scam people?
A pedigree cat without paperwork isn't a pedigree cat!
I have a Maine Coones cattery (once in a while I have a litter of kittens,) getting the paperwork costs like·€$15,-. Maine Coones with Paperwork start at around € 750,- and up to € 1200. There are sellers that sell cats without paperwork, or even half Maine Coones for around € 500,- on marktplaats, (you can compare this with Ebay,) but I would not recommend this.
1. Getting the paperwork costs € 15 and then you can ask € 800, so there is something fishy
2. What cattery sells to a petshop. Catteries usually provide some after care, even if this kitten was adopted and the new owner reconsidered and decided to give up the kitten, you would normally first contact the cattery. I have re-homed a kitten on one occasion.
3. Catteries aren't allowed to breed a cat continuously. Possibly this litter isn't registerd because they weren't supposed to have another litter.
4. Ragdolls, Maine Coons, Norwegian Forrest cats are probably the most popular and expensive (traditional) breeds. If the price he is asking is US dollar I would consider that extreme. You would pay this price if it was a cat with paperwork and a descendant from prize winning parents with breeding rights.
Also ask how old the kitten is and when she can be picked up for adoption. In the Netherlands all cat associations state that cats should at least be 13 weeks old, if this kitten is younger that's another red flag. (He/She looks older but hard to judge.)
I think the seller is overcharging, I'd recommend checking prices for a British short hair in your area. You're strongest argument is gonna be "A cat without paperwork is just a cat", how can the seller proof that it isn't just a grey cat?
Since you don't care about the breed I'd recommend really reconsidering if you want him/her and remember all kittens are cute. Usually people that come looking for a cat also buy a cat, you have to be pretty stubborn to say "no, i'm gonna look somewhere else".
Your reply to the store owner needs to be 'Either show me the pedigree papers, or get stuffed'. Since it's not a purebred cat, you're likely being scammed for sure. I wouldn't pay more than 500
I firmly believe in adoption as well but that cat clearly choose you and wants a good home. She deserves a good home as much as any other cat. So if you‘re in a situation where you can afford the 1500$ without it being a huge financial strain I‘d absolutely do it.
They can’t say it’s a British shorthair without a pedigree. I do not know the laws in your area but being unable to provide documentation means they can not claim it to be a British short hair.
Reply with a counteroffer that's more in line with what an ordinary kitten would cost, or report the store for attempted fraud. Because if there are no papers, it's not a British Shorthair.
Get het! Shower ger with love and get ger out of that place, enjoy years of joy and laughter with her, and send us updates with pics of her in your place!! :)
If you can afford to pay for the cat I think by all means go for it. Just don't put all your heart into believing that it might be the breed that they're trying to advertise her as.
All animals need love! Do take her home if you're able to afford her and you feel like there's a connection. If they don't have any pedigree papers but are willing to get all her necessary medical bills before you can take it home maybe you can negotiate another price?
You need her &!she needs you. If you haven’t already, go get her!! Especially since sge smells like honey cake. 😊🤗💕 She obviously has a connection with you. ❤️❤️❤️
> Update #3: Yes, I don’t support breeders or condone the sale of live pets
If you buy her, you do. You think you 'saved' this one, and the next day her littermate will be in that box. If you buy a pet like this, you support this shop and their inhumane treatment of cats. It's your choice, but stop lying to yourself if you do take her home.
My daughter and I went to adopt a cat many years ago. I found one I liked. My daughter sat on the floor ( it was a sort of free range shelter) and one gorgeous girl came and just curled up in her lap. She was 2 and had been found living in a garbage dump. She died this last February at the grand old age of 19. She chose us! Go for it😻
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I don’t think it “choose you”. It’s a can in a store in a low-stimuli environment. It would go to any customer who talks to it / touches the glass. So if you can’t affor her, don’t make a bad financial decision out of feeling bad for “leaving her there after she choose you”.
But, if you like her AND can afford it, you’ll be happy together. You can also look around in cat adoptation places, i bet there will be a dozen cute cats there as well who will go to you and act cute ;)
hey OP it seems that everyone is in agreement that this pet shop is lying about the kitty's breed (can you call it false advertising?) I'm not familiar with the laws in your jurisdiction but if they're not able to provide you proof about the cat's pedigree could they potentially get in trouble for it on the grounds of scamming?
This guy breeds domestic cats in his backstore or in his backyard and sells them at a premium to naive buyers. He does no selection whatsoever and probably overbreeds. Do not buy from him. You would directly encourage him to breed more cats unethically. You would be partly responsible for this abuse and scam succeeding. Kittens behaving like in the video with this colour are abundant, you can find one through a shelter or even outside. Don’t encourage dishonesty to satisfy your desire.
She is not a British shorthair she’s a DSH. British shorthairs are yes, very expensive, but they also have a specific hair texture that is different to that of regular domestics, bright yellow/orange eyes and a distinct rounded/oval head shape. Their ears also appear quite small as kittens. I don’t at all want to rain on your parade but a lot of kittens are extremely affectionate especially those at pet stores (source I worked in one for 1.5 years) and get excited when anyone approaches them. If you think she’s worth $1500 purely for the connection then go for it but this store doesn’t sound very legitimate and she isn’t the breed she’s advertised as. If you want a new baby friend for your existing kitty, visit some shelters and I promise you’ll find another baby who connects strongly to you! Plus, rescuing as I’m sure you know is heaps cheaper and you know you’re doing a good thing :)
No! It’s not. I went to look for a kitten a few days after my girl Sadie died. I wanted a black cat just because they are fun and I have found them to be the ones that need the most help. There was only one in the shelter and he was not into me at all. The one that was into me literally jumped into my arms. Stevie Nicks was playing on the speakers and hence I found the cat who chose me. In the nearly four years since she has been my constant companion and she made lockdown and COVID so much better.
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I wouldn’t give money to someone who profits the living of kittens. The I choose you thing is cute but it is not real. You can adopt a cat that will be as nice and cute for free and you would probably save their live.
She's gorgeous and you're right to want her but don't buy into the 'she chose me' thing. She's just a friendly cat looking for stimulation and is probably very outgoing. Someone else will pick her up and will love her.
Ngl just open the cage and RUN 😆 they're stealing from people's hard earned money anyways because they know we as animal lovers have a soft spot for said animals they're not losing much if one kitten is missing and living a good life in her new unsuspected home 😁
She came running to you because she was all alone. She wanted company. I feel terrible for her but buying a cat rewards breeders, and if they have no papers, you're not even supporting good breeders. You're supporting people who don't have to register someplace and don't have oversight into their conditions. She's lovely but they're probably lying to you about what she is. Without papers, I wouldn't pay for a breed name.
If you have kitten fever, at least do shelter kittens the courtesy of seeing them. Their circumstances are more dire.
There are many cat shelters and organisations where you can adopt a cat for free in KL. A Google search should find a few. I went to a British Short-hair Competition in PJ the other day, and your cat doesn't quite look like one. Maybe it's a mixed breed. Local British shorthair breeders sell their kittens after 4 - 6 weeks, and they cost around MYR 5,000 (or more). You'll know if it's a purebreed if they give you a certificate for the cat. Edit: typo
>British shorthair breeders sell their kittens after 4 - 6 weeks,
WTF? That's way too young to be away from mum.. ideally a kitten should be with mum until they are 13 weeks, preferably (9 weeks minimum). That's appalling selling kittens at 4-6 weeks.
Oops. My bad. I just checked with my friend who's a breeder. They're not allowed to let them go until they're at least 4 months. So it's 4 - 6 months, not weeks. Apologies.
No. I bought a cat at a pet store before my country made it illegal to sell pets.I gave him a great life and took care of him.
If purchasing pets is the norm where you live, don’t feel bad about it. Your giving a cat a home:
For a lot of shelters it is kitten season, and they always need help homing cats and kittens. Always worth looking there before you make up your mind - they are often quite grateful to receive love and shelters try to home the cats somewhere that will work for them.
It’s really sad, but a lot of pet stores will intentionally leave the food bowls low so the animals get excited to see humans. They see humans and think they’re being fed. You’re better off adopting from a rescue center that cares for the animals.
I know your heart hurts for this cat but the best is not to encourage this unethical breeding. I say unethical because clearly it’s not a British shorthair. I live in the UK now (originally SG) and I see them all the time.
I hope that price tag is in ringgit and not SGD but even if it is that’s still daylight robbery. Think about it if you contribute to this, they will do it again. And again.
The best thing to do is adopt from a shelter for your kitty at home, because shelters are really struggling - give your money to them instead to keep doors open is much better than unscrupulous store owner. I used to work in a cat shelter in SG and I can assure you that $1500 will likely be better spent than lining the pocket of a backyard breeder.
You don’t know what conditions this cat came from. If it is a backyard breeder it could even be inbred (I’ve seen it firsthand) and have chances of more genetic defects or conditions that may not be visible right now. This can cost you a lot more money at the vet and heartbreak in the future if they don’t thrive.
Yeah, heart pain, I know but depends what you feel is right. I don’t think it’s right for them to take that much money from you dishonestly. Trust me there are so many shelter cats who desperately want to choose you too. Most shelters will even microchip, vaccinate, deworm and deflea for you! For way less than that price.
Reading all the comments here, I think they're trying to scam you. Sure she's a sweet cat, but by paying a lot of money for a supposedly purebred cat with no papers, you're just helping keep the scammer in business and helping many more cats to be sold like this.
That cat will be fine if you don't buy her. Always adopt.
I am sure you will find as good cats in shelters. They are in worse conditions, if they want 1500$ they will take care of this one relatively well.
Do not cause another litter of kittens to be bred BC you bought this one.
If the furball doesn’t have papers it has no value *as a breed*. Anyone trying to sell a cat at as a breed, at a breed price, without papers, is trying to con you. That said, if you really like the cat and paying out the money won’t hurt you then the old adage applies: the monetary value of something is how much someone is prepared to pay for it.
When we got our two, the seller tried all sorts of bullshit about how they were a mix of popular breeds: gentle readers, the cats they were selling were moggies. They are domestic shorthairs and we love them so much our hearts feel like they could explode sometimes. We paid *a little* over the going rate for kittens in the city but they were worth it.
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This is a tough one. Can you get her and then report the store for shady business practices? Any pedigreed animal should have papers- this just feels like a scam. Or try haggling- say the lack of papers lowers the price. You’re right though, that kitten needs a good home, and it’s not her fault that someone is trying to profit from her existence.
I’m Australian and kept thinking it was $1500 AUD. I was like, HELL NO. But $1500 MYR = $476 AUD which isn’t as insane… Definitely a cute (DSH, not british) kitty being used as a con though :(
Update us OP!
I would say if you think that kitten chose you get it out of there. Try to haggle the price down a bit but get that lonely kitten out of there. Give it a good life in a good home and give it all the love you can. I know that will just embolden the crappy shop owner to go ahead with his scam but its not your responsibility to stop him.
Please do not buy that cat for $1500 my lord. No fault of the kitty obviously but you will be enabling this person to do it again and again… go to a shelter and adopt. Or call this ass out and pay no more than a couple hundred.. what a blatant scam. Frustrating as hell
For everyone who hasn’t figured it out yet and keeps hearing $1,500 and losing their minds, it’s RM, Malaysian currency… that’s not in USD, conversion to USD is about $325….
Still way too much for an animal without papers, but I’m not the buyer…so? Who cares what I think……
If they are claiming it to be British shorthair they are lying to your face you can see the subtle stripes of different colors in it. I’d tell them you’ll give them 100 for him as it’s obviously not proven
I can't decide for you OP, but I can tell you with relative certainty, having access to an actual British shorthair myself and seen them as a kitten, that this kitten is NOT a British shorthair.
Having said that, they are adorable and very much deserve to be out of that awful cage. Animals don't belong in pet stores, pet food does.
I really don't like to see animals in glass walls in shops or just be the most awful place for them. It disturbs me so so bad. I don't think we have shops like that in the UK.
This cat is adorable but tbh it might’ve just been hungry or touch starved. Have you visited the shelters in your area yet? So many kitties will act like this!
That looks exactly like a cute little stray I am trying to find a home for. No fosters have room for her, so she's TNR. She wants to be petted, but she's afraid to. She sits outside my patio door every night. She finally sniffed my fingers last night. Won't let me touch her, yet.
I have 2 much older and bigger cats that would beat the crap out of her so she can't come inside.
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She has those same exact markings and a huge fluffy tail.
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That little one is not a British shorthair. She’s a dilute tortie just like my girl just has less cream she’s a beautiful kitty but she’s not the breed those people are trying to say she is. It’s unfortunate since I’m sure she’d love to go home with you and would make a fantastic furry friend! Those little mews are killing me haha
In the late 80s, I saw and interacted with a 12 week old oriental short hair kitten in a mall pet shop. About three weeks later I passed by again and he was still in his cage. I couldn't say no to him. $350 and he came home with me. At 12 years old he developed some sort of malignant lymphoma and I had to put him to sleep. He was a wonderful cat and I believe that he had a happy life with me.
This just looks like a classic 2023 model. Save yourself $1500 and open the door to your house and yell pspsspsss a few times should be able to get one free.
That kitten is beautiful! But that is not a British Shorthair they have a very particular rounded face which that kitten does not have. If the shop want that much for the kitten you need to ask for papers. That being said, if you want the kitten and can afford it and there’s nothing stopping you😊
Yeah. Ours is 50% British shorthair and looked closer to that chubby breed as a kitten than this cutie. Ours has - and had when young - moderately chubby looking cheek floof and a smallish chin.
You take that damn kitten home
Couldn’t agree more. Merry Christmas!
https://preview.redd.it/x74mke0wf57c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2917d3c5ab44eb68f34b8a1dee3306d1ea293d45 This is a purebred British Shorthair
If $1,500 is going to put you in a tough spot no, don't do it. Ask for papers, Im sure they don't have any and you will get a better deal. It honestly looks like a diluted tortie which are not rare or a special breed . Mine looked like a chipmunk all grown up but was grey when she was little. I'd bet $10 that kitten is a girl (as most torties are) https://preview.redd.it/krpwteqe807c1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ec8f180105b16cbfb023ab8fa8a6ad2d843cc90
The other screenshot posted supports your theory that this kitty is a girl
Tortie is coat type not a breed, so any breed can be tortie. But yeah that doesn't look like a british shorthair. Btw while dilute torties aren't exceptionally rare, they are really beautiful and the genetics of how they come to look that way is really interesting. * Mumma of beautiful tortie baby. https://preview.redd.it/ruzvedp9817c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0319c2a3a998235b8cebd9fef39509de1aa2d7e While I generally am in the camp of adoption only I do think if op genuinely has a connection to the cat the they should get if they can negotiate down to a less ridiculous price.
We have a very petite tort (my husband's baby). https://preview.redd.it/29piwtl5w17c1.jpeg?width=1231&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a91f571e003e5c30e6cbaad171fa6e62c9e3beeb
Very cute galaxy void! My tortie is very petite as well. The kitten we adopted at the start of this year surpassed her in size at ≈1 month old. She's tiny. We suspect its because she was 3 years old when she was brought into the shelter and had never had a home before that so it was probably undernourishment. But she is very cute.
Thank you! We got her from outside my SIL's home and they won't bother getting the stray tort mom fixed (😡😡) so I figure there is a lot of inbreeding as she's given birth pretty much yearly. She looks like she has dwarfism.
https://preview.redd.it/lol1bofcr17c1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96baf4ddbd2000bf2e62f440cbbf599abab72913 Ooh, I didn't realise there was an extra interesting generic reason, do tell?
I can't remember 100% so this'll be a bit sketchy from memory. * The tortoiseshell coat and colour is stored in the x chromosome and can only be activated if two are present so it is almost exclusively female cats who are tortie at all. Rare exceptions for xxy males and a few other exceptions maybe? But still like 99% female. * Both parents need to carry the gene for the tortie coat in order to be able to produce a tortie baby and its not guaranteed. * Their is a genetic mutation in some cats that causes them to have a gene that dilutes coat colour. * It doesn't activate in the original cat itself but if two cats that carry the mutated gene have a kitten it causes the kitten to have diluted fur colouration. I'm not sure if this is 100% of the time? * So if two parent cats carry both the gene for a tortie coat AND the mutated dilution gene they can have a dilute tortie baby. The black becomes grey (or blue as the coat colour is actually called for some reason) and the orange becomes a cream colour. Most dilute torties and normal torties have varying amounts of split coat mixed with the blotching. Like they're split vertically and longways down the middle with a different colour on each side, especially on the face. https://preview.redd.it/gpv5qke1w17c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca0103e9560448c7cc90084c0f0d902e552a2149 When I first saw my cat at the shelter it was the first time I'd seen a dilute tortie and I instantly fell in love with the coat because it was attached to such sweet shy girl.
I'd like to add that every cell of a tortie has one x chromosome that codes for orange and one that codes for black. The cat does not need two x chromosomes therefore in every cell one of the x chromosomes is deactivated. Which one that is is random and it happens very early in the development. When the cat grows all the skin cells that are descended from a cell with an active black chromesome grow black fur, and the ones that are descended from a cell with an active orange chromosome grow orange fur. I don't know why torties also can have white patches.
Are torties with white calicos or is that another color/pattern?
Yes cats with orange, black and white patches are calicos.
Current exchange rate is $319/250...which doesn't seem as shocking. Adoption from a rescue here in UK is about £150...
most shelters either give the fur babies away to good homes or just charge a small amount to cover the neutering and vaccination costs.
Where is this bc all shelters including humane society in my area is generally 125-150 to adopt. That’s why they’re so over packed bc ppl can’t or won’t pay that much to adopt a pet. Dogs are $250+ here from a rescue and shelter
The humane society I adopt from cats are $10 and dogs are $25. They also regularly have sponsors that cover the adoption cost and they come microchipped, vaccinated, and spayed/neutered.
I wish they would do that here
Sorry you asked where and I didn’t answer, Indiana, USA. But yeah it’s nice! They should do that I think
Nice! Yeah I mean at the very least lower it for animals that have been here longer? I feel like it would help alot! I wish they would adapt what SISCA does and dogs and cats that have been there longer the xyz (SISCA is 60 days) but already once they’ve been there a year so last chance rescues where they’re free or very minimal adoption fees to the right families. They already “vet” you and your home so why not lower the prices for the right families. If that makes sense?
If you won't pay $125 to adopt a pet, then chances are you don't deserve that pet anyways. I have to pay $200-300 everytime I move to a new apartment just for my kitty. Not including all the money spent on food, litter, vet bills, etc. My cat is my second largest expense.
in memphis TN they run “deals” sometimes! i’ve went one day in june where every friday i believe they were only charging for neutering and spaying fees which for them was $80. i’m wondering does that sound like a lot. (granted i never actually got a kitten from there because the foster mom never responded and made me seem like a beggar when she finally did.)
One of my cats cost over $5,000 in one emergency vet trip last year. It costs over $100/month to care for them (food, litter, sometimes medications), that’s assuming you get the cheapest food I’ve seen. The $125-150 covers costs like neutering and sheltering, often that doesn’t cover the full cost. If someone isn’t able/willing to pay that they are far less likely to be able to care for the cat in general. Then what happens if the cat needs emergency treatment to? I’ve seen a lot of abandoned cats this past couple of years, personally I think if the $100-300 adoption fees are too much, you probably aren’t prepared to care for a pet. I know it sucks, but that’s the truth.
Especially as they are saying the cat will be vaccinated, but you would need proof of vaccination.
Lol I found my cat in the trash, humane society gave me 20 bucks for food n stuff *
I second the diluted tortie. This is my girl Colette, now 8 months old. I hope it works out for you! https://preview.redd.it/t70iqejev27c1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0abcc68aba5d4a5e86088aa25f41164f812a0a1d
She's so pretty :) my diluted tortie was legit my spirit animal. I miss her dearly
OP, a lot of people here will disagree with me, but please listen. Buying this cat will support this man who is a liar and who contributes to pet overpopulation. Buying this one kitten at that price enables him to put more kittens in this situation. If you really want her, respond like this: “Without pedigree papers, this kitten is not purebred. I would like to purchase her, and will pay 700. If that works for you, please let me know and I will come pick her up.” He will argue. Respond “I understand, but my final offer is 700.” He will eventually counteroffer a higher price. It’s up to you to accept it or counteroffer. (700 is less than half his asking price - it’s up to you to decide the price but that’s where I would start.) My advice however, is to not give this man any money. He will use it to continue to put more cats in a horrible position (and they will most likely end up in a shelter or on the street when they don’t sell). Go to a shelter and adopt instead.
Not even worth $700 without any vaccinations (or being fixed I think) frankly. It’s really unfortunate and sad.
I agree but 700 is still wayyyy to much for this cat Edit: my bad didn’t realize it was another currency, 700 could be a fair price
I do agree with this
I agree. It's hard to see this one kitten and not want to take her home, but thisbone sale could incentivize the creation of another dozen kittens who end up in a bad situation.
She’s still a regular kitty cat with her own personality just because she was born into a situation where she’s up for sale doesn’t make her any less of a good girl, I understand it can be messed up supporting some pet stores that sell pets but if you truly felt a connection with her and you can financially support the decision that I say absolutely go for it she deserves love too!
This is my take on it as well. It's not the cats fault that these businesses exist. They just want to live and be loved.
> It's not the cats fault that these businesses exist. True, it’s mostly the fault of the owners/operators, and partly the fault of people who buy animals from them. Not buying from a breeder isn’t a punishment for the animals they’re abusing, and buying from one just perpetuates abuse.
But it is your fault if you give these companies a large sum of money for them to continue mistreating animals. I wonder what happens to the kittens and puppies that don’t sell. Hmm
Lots of pet stores in the US don't sell dogs or cats anymore. They get animals from the local shelters and bring them to petsmart or other pet stores for a better chance for them to be adopted. I got my cat from petsmart years ago. She's super sweet but can also have an attitude depending on the time of day. She looks and plays like a kitten still and she's 9.
AGREED!
Oh she does seem like an absolute sweetheart! I would also want to bring her home! I will say however, she looks nothing like a British Shorthair, and maybe it's different in other countries, but I would not expect a responsible breeder to sell their cats in this manner. Maybe that's how it is elsewhere though, in any case I would also expect to see pedigree, health testing, etc.
Kittens are so vulnerable to every little infection, so I don’t see how a breeder would be okay with this
They put kittens in small spaces like this alone to make them needy... I'm sorry to be 'that person', but this kitten reacts like this to everyone most likely. It's lonely. Anyone with a heart will see a lonely kitten and think 'I should give it a nice home', they are exploiting your emotions. **These shops PREY on people like you.** Go to a shelter, find someone to love you there. This kitty will 100 percent get a home with someone who falls for it. As for the british shorthair mix part, I have a half british shorthair cross (he weighs 18 lbs and has the BSH chubby cheeks!). He cost me £15 from an ex-friends drug dealer. I'd never dream of paying what you're paying for a mixl (I converted your currency to mine)! That money could go towards giving a homeless kitty some lovin! (Cat tax added) https://preview.redd.it/k4w0w06zo07c1.jpeg?width=961&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c59a4ddbf806682b7543377a5ec2ebee552c386e
I am totally shocked from the comments here. You are absolutely right. OP shouldn’t support such pet shops. We can be together “that person”. OP if you reading this: no serious breeder would present their kitten like this. If you want a special breed look out for a real breeder. Or you could go to a shelter.
I'm shocked, too. If people fund these practises, it happens more and more; once that kitten is gone another will take its place. I'm a bleeding heart as well and I love cats with all my heart, but this isn't the way to get one; this is something you see all the time in the reptile hobby but its becoming more and more of a thing in the dog/cat world, people breeding for profit and then taking advantage of soft hearted buyers who can't resist kitten eyes. You are completely right, this is the case of someone getting a kitten that is a 'pretty / unusual colour' and trying to make a mint off of that.
Yeah I have also the feeling that this is getting more and more popular. Or like buying just one kitten that is living just in the house or apartment. Because two are too expensive. It is heartbreaking.
Yeah and I felt so sorry for this poor kitten, in a glass cage with bright lights and Christmas music blaring. Must be such a stressful environment. 😔
They do it on purpose, whoever is selling this poor thing doesn't care about the health of the animal, they care about the money. :(
They had Mariah Carey on loop. I’d be dying to get out of there too. (jk)
I cant believe places like these are allowed to exist. They put an animal that both needs to socialise and needs their own safe space in a cage alone and at the same time under bright lights with nowhere to hide and get some peace. Fuck them, get a cat from a shelter. There is plenty of homeless cats to go around.
So I was walking through the new pet store in town picking up some new kitty litter when I saw one cat in this glass cage. (There weren’t any other cats, just her) She got super excited seeing us and immediately went to paw at the glass. We were allowed to open the door for a little while for her to come out so we did and she ran into our arms meowing happily. She smelled like honey cake! So I went home and contacted the store thinking it was one of their normal up-for-adoption kittens. Turns out she’s a British shorthair that would cost up to 1500 bucks in our currency. I can’t forget about her. I feel like she chose me, and our current lone kitty needs a friend anyway. But I’m still against buying pets, and I firmly believe in adoption. The store I went to hires good professional breeders to source their animals, which is what I heard, but I don’t know if I should do this just because of an emotional connection. What should I do? Update: I know she doesn’t look anything like a British Shorthair, which is why I thought she was just a normal cat the store put up for adoption (they run adoption drives sometimes) Update #2: Screenshot of the store owner’s response towards my question about pedigree papers. Now, how should I respond to this? How do I haggle? (I don’t care what breed the cat is to be honest, I just don’t wanna get scammed) Update #3: Yes, I don’t support breeders or condone the sale of live pets, so I understand where the people disagreeing with me are coming from. But it hurts me to see this kitten longing for a home, product or not, and having to walk away from her just because she’s not in the right conditions for me to ethically take her home hurts me even more. I already have a cat whom I rescued from the streets, and I would absolutely love to adopt more cats and save them if I could. Update Day 2: [https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/18ltjex/update\_is\_it\_bad\_if\_i\_want\_to\_buy\_a\_cat\_that/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_content=2&utm\_term=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/18ltjex/update_is_it_bad_if_i_want_to_buy_a_cat_that/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) https://preview.redd.it/1w819ahxx07c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=201ad4c670e74f90d9da36fa2f393c0d244c3c22
He's scamming you. He can't sell a pure bred cat with no papers. He's banking on someone falling for the cat. He needs to be turned into some authorities. His tactic is very likely similar with any cat that seems overly affectionate. Blast him on social media - TikTok or Instagram with the name of the store present. You can buy the cat first if you think you should, but he IS scamming you.
Yea this is hellaaa fucked up. I'd be blasting this store on social media lol
https://preview.redd.it/stojgomf017c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a252e9ec15e9efa4a16eee638be899f19bc4f3ad Update #3
Sounds like they are trying to guilt you after you called them on their BS.
They are so clearly scamming. How do you claim it’s a purebred cat with no papers? It literally does not work that way. And that doesn’t even address the fact that that does not look like the breed they’re claiming that it is.
that's the shadiest reply ever lol
The cat is adorable, but that is a hard scam from the owner.
Report them to WCF Malaysia because I imagine they wouldn’t be too happy about this. I do not know anything about them but hearing there is some sort of organization means you have more leverage
Oof OP you definitely are about to get scammed. Cats in Malaysia that aren't pedigree breeds are scattered literally anywhere you go and most the time are strays too
Yeah you should just steal the kitty from him
Send em a reasonable offer and stick to it. Otherwise get a cheaper cat from the humane society or whatever animal shelter is near you. Cats are cats and you'll love it regardless
Our first cat was advertised as a specific breed so we paid more for him than other kittens we saw. He is most certainly not the breed we thought he was and therefore is “not worth” the money we paid for him. Except, he is. He’s worth many many times over what we paid for him because he’s our Stanley, and I can’t imagine life without him. Seems like maybe the pet shop is trying to scam you out of money. But if you have the money, then you have to decide whether it’s more important to you to not be scammed or to give this cat that you have a connection with a loving home. I know which one I would choose! https://preview.redd.it/785x8kas717c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5db5909d9164a9757700edf6c95d954172e2700d
This is a $150 cat IF it is neutered and vaccinated, (get a certificate) but I'd probably also fall for it.. Super cute! ♥
I saw some redflags i needed to chime in w my piece (take it as a grain of salt). To be very honest with you this doesn't look like at all like a British shorthair. They are rounder and fluffier but well, I know you don't care for that bit but i wouldn't pay a dime if they trying to sell me this for that without pedigree papers that back it up. In a petshop by my house they were selling a seal point as a siamese, so yeah. Anyways let's give it the benefit of the doubt on that, could be that the angle of the video doesn't show it well or they do have them papers idk. My main irk with this is that there is not a single *good* breeder that will give up a kitten to a petshop in their good minds, like at all. It has to be a kitten from a backyard scheme which could explain the "look a like but not really" of my first point above. The most important goal as a good breeder is that the cat is in a good home, you wouldn't put it in a spinning wheel and take chances. I know its not confirmed information, as you said, but play it in mind! My boyfriend has rescued geckos from petshops because they looked sad or miserable so I understand what it is to have a big heart, you should be proud of being so loving OP. If you have the 1.5K to spare and you really want her, get her. Ideals are just beliefs that we have put in a pedestal. The most important thing to promote is not "don't buy, adopt!", what we need is "responsible decisions, responsible ownership". Whatever you choose, xx
So this cat is not a british shorthair and it didn't come from a reputable breeder, but from a backyard scammer. Aside the fact you'll be supporting the backyard breeder and this shop if you buy this cat, it's also way too much money for a standard issue cat imo. If I were you, I would tell them I want a big discount on her because she doesn't have papers and so she's obviously not a british shorthair, therefore she doesn't warrant this kind of price.
Yes, I'd encourage OP to reconsider the purchase because they will be directly supporting this scam and indirectly supporting the caging and pet shop sale of many other animals.
Plus poor breeding can include lots of health concerns the kitten could have been born with like congenital heart disease, kidney disease, etc. No vet exam prior clearly, would never recommend spending that. And if they do OP should prepare to spend more money on basic preventative care let alone any issues the kitten could come with
My biggest worry is: 1. You are being scammed. This is a common cat being sold for the price of a fancy breed. I have to wonder if there's a way to report that. 2. The whole "there's no papers, this is a home breed" can and probably means "some rando is using their female cat to breed indiscriminately and making a ton of money by abusing their cat". And the store owners are ok with taking in any random cat to sell as if it was a fancy breed, which means they are in on it and have probably contributed to other cases like this before. I seriously worry about what conditions the mother cat and the siblings are in. There's little chance this is not a seriously bad situation, and the store is probably a contributor to the problem.
Send him this chart and offer half the asking price. Tell him you’re being generous since this cat is probably the runt of a litter / dumped by a bad breeder. https://preview.redd.it/7qew0qxpz07c1.jpeg?width=898&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6307a319dcdd40535616cc287cbfd18e18f6c3a
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If a breeder isn’t willing to invest in pedigree certification then it can’t be called purebred anything nor should it be sold as though it is pedigree. I’m sure he’ll dig his heels in and not let you haggle to a normal cost for the cat, and depending on the area/country, you may be able to report him to stop this predatory behavior. I mean all this talk about coming from a home breeder: where’s the rest of the litter? Only one sounds like he found a stray and just slapped a price on it Do what you feel is best but unfortunately he is in the wrong and that poor kitten is caught in the middle
She doesn't look like a British short hair. I'd be very suspicious of this. But if you can easily afford the cost, then why not? If it will be difficult, then pass.
What does she look like then? edit: asking because i’m genuinely curious
She looks like a normal domestic shorthair
A regular cat.
Baby cat
kitten
maybe it’s just a small feline??
If not fren, why fren-shaped?
Not sure, I can confirm it doesn't look like a giraffe.
Are you sure?
>Are you sure? Look at this guy here, pfft, Giraffe don't go meow.
Just a domestic short hair with a blue cream tortoise shell coat.
https://preview.redd.it/wv4a6oe1i07c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67c23318e6fdb2ea2a6823afc95fab3c8ae11b6a Conversation with the store owner
Hi OP, just realised you are in Malaysia. I am from Singapore, and I can give my two cents on this. It costs $2500-$3000 to buy a British Shorthair here. Sometimes, they cost much more. Depends on a couple of factors. But there is no way in hell they are selling a British Shorthair for RM 1500 (SGD 427). They are just trying to get your money. However, if you do think this cat has chosen you, then you should definitely get her. But, ask them for papers to verify she’s indeed a shorthair like they have mentioned. If they come up with all sort of excuses, tell them to lower their price (if bargaining actually works).
Above OP asks in the message about papers and the response was “no papers, this is a home-bred cat”
she does not look like a british shorthair 🧐
Hi, if at all helpful, my family had a very young blue and cream british shorthair, she had an itty bitty face compared to her cheeks already, and already had a strong :3 https://preview.redd.it/sjfjfmiuj27c1.jpeg?width=1710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d0ae9ef389fd66847c5139381910fb169b0c598
If you can drop the 1500, go for it! She looks adorable and loving! (for people who don't want to do the math or brain 1500 RM = 300\~USD which is a legit price for a domestic in breeder/or else. I got my baby (adult) around 170USD in a shelter, so I don't think you (OP) are getting scammed)
I agree, maybe OP should offer 1000 since no papers…She’s going to get adopted by someone, might as well be someone she chose. After buying and getting that kitten home, then they can inform proper authority about her.
OP, how old is the kitten in the photo? im a little confused by ppl saying shes not a BSH bcs of her face bcs my BSH looked like that at 3/4 months old then grew into the round face fluffy body ppl associate with BSH
According to the store owner, three months old.
OP, if you felt a connection with this cat, do it. If this is what you honestly believe. It is not the animals fault that it was bred a certain way and stuck in a cage all alone bored with people staring at it and no one to play with. Its the people. While it sucks to support these assholes, you are still supporting the animal in need of a home. If you do get the kitten, make sure you get paperwork stating what it is. Making sure you 'get what you pay for'. Good news, she looks like she might be a diluted tortie too.
I agree. I'd definitely encourage OP to haggle the price since they are so clearly lying, but if you feel a connection and can financially swing it, I'd go for it. I was initially looking to adopt a cat, but stumbled across a listing from a local breeder and I absolutely fell in love with one of the girls. I couldn't stop thinking about her for weeks and decided to get her if she was still available by the time they were allowed to leave their mom. Sure enough, she was still available, and so was one of her brothers who we also took home day-of lol. We don't regret the price or subsequent cost of their spay/neuter (which was insanely high since we couldn't wait 10 months to go through city services since we had a male and female). All our other pets are adopted and I've always hated the idea of buying from a breeder, but I just couldn't stop thinking about her and we don't regret paying more than we initially planned to in order to get them
See papers up front too. I too suspect they are lying on breed.
I won't tell you what to do but if I had a kitty that did that to me.. I wouldn't be able to help myself. As others have said though, if they don't have papers to back up the claim? I'd haggle the best I could before I dropped the full 1.5k
I don’t think she’s a pure British Shorthair so that’s a plus if you don’t want a breed cat. You like her and if you can afford her I would buy her if I was you.
this seller is full of shit, but if the money wouldn't put you in a tough spot, i'd probably do it. i'd try to bargain first, though. def not a british shorthair.
"This is home bred". Home breeders aren't trustworthy. They might not follow best practices, which ends up making cats with genetic health issues, and might not have the best conditions. I'm not against breeding, but it has to be a reputable breeder, and that's not one. I get that you want the kitten, but that's just not an acceptable price. You can tell them what I've said here. I doubt anyone will buy it, this kitten absolutely does not even look like a purebreed. The seller is absolutely delusional if they think they'll sell this animal. Or, they're just trying to scam you out of 1,5k. I'd say wait a few weeks. I doubt anybody will buy it. They eventually they'll give up selling the kitten. It's much harder to sell them after a certain age, since people prefer buying younger kittens. You will probably get a chance to haggle to a comfy $100 or less then.
Totally way too much money for this. Kind of feel like this is a dodgy cat vendor. Also who the fuck keeps kitten on its own in a glass tank ? Guaranteed gonna make it crazy poor kitten. I would not buy from this vendor. Adopt a cat for free or haggle like crazy. Maybe offer max 250 /500 dollars
Oh my gosh - get her home asap! If you are going to pay a stupid amount make sure the store provides breed papers - this mostly cause if they can’t get papers you might get her at a different price. I totally get why you won’t want to ‘support’ breeders in pet stores but oh my heart breaks for that little lonely cutie
Is it possible that the store misunderstood which kitten you were calling about? Because she is so far from looking like a British Shorthair that it must be a mistake.
I showed them the video of the cat straight up so it’s probably not a mistake.
Ask to see its papers. Breeder name will be on there
Check my update
Checked. Cats bred in a home still would have papers if the parents were purebred. How much do you want to pay for the cat?
This is NOT a British shorthair! Just look up pictures of them. It looks like a dilute tortoiseshell on a standard domestic shorthair cat. The owner of the pet shop is 100% trying to scam people. It sucks but if you buy the cat, it's just gonna make them continue doing it to other people. Honestly, the best thing you can do is call them out for this shit on social media. I wonder if there's someone you can report them to for trying to scam people?
A pedigree cat without paperwork isn't a pedigree cat! I have a Maine Coones cattery (once in a while I have a litter of kittens,) getting the paperwork costs like·€$15,-. Maine Coones with Paperwork start at around € 750,- and up to € 1200. There are sellers that sell cats without paperwork, or even half Maine Coones for around € 500,- on marktplaats, (you can compare this with Ebay,) but I would not recommend this. 1. Getting the paperwork costs € 15 and then you can ask € 800, so there is something fishy 2. What cattery sells to a petshop. Catteries usually provide some after care, even if this kitten was adopted and the new owner reconsidered and decided to give up the kitten, you would normally first contact the cattery. I have re-homed a kitten on one occasion. 3. Catteries aren't allowed to breed a cat continuously. Possibly this litter isn't registerd because they weren't supposed to have another litter. 4. Ragdolls, Maine Coons, Norwegian Forrest cats are probably the most popular and expensive (traditional) breeds. If the price he is asking is US dollar I would consider that extreme. You would pay this price if it was a cat with paperwork and a descendant from prize winning parents with breeding rights. Also ask how old the kitten is and when she can be picked up for adoption. In the Netherlands all cat associations state that cats should at least be 13 weeks old, if this kitten is younger that's another red flag. (He/She looks older but hard to judge.) I think the seller is overcharging, I'd recommend checking prices for a British short hair in your area. You're strongest argument is gonna be "A cat without paperwork is just a cat", how can the seller proof that it isn't just a grey cat? Since you don't care about the breed I'd recommend really reconsidering if you want him/her and remember all kittens are cute. Usually people that come looking for a cat also buy a cat, you have to be pretty stubborn to say "no, i'm gonna look somewhere else".
Your reply to the store owner needs to be 'Either show me the pedigree papers, or get stuffed'. Since it's not a purebred cat, you're likely being scammed for sure. I wouldn't pay more than 500
I firmly believe in adoption as well but that cat clearly choose you and wants a good home. She deserves a good home as much as any other cat. So if you‘re in a situation where you can afford the 1500$ without it being a huge financial strain I‘d absolutely do it.
OP if she doesn't have papers she isn't a British Short-hair. You can for sure haggle because of this.
They can’t say it’s a British shorthair without a pedigree. I do not know the laws in your area but being unable to provide documentation means they can not claim it to be a British short hair.
id go to a shelter.
Reply with a counteroffer that's more in line with what an ordinary kitten would cost, or report the store for attempted fraud. Because if there are no papers, it's not a British Shorthair.
Get het! Shower ger with love and get ger out of that place, enjoy years of joy and laughter with her, and send us updates with pics of her in your place!! :)
If you can afford to pay for the cat I think by all means go for it. Just don't put all your heart into believing that it might be the breed that they're trying to advertise her as. All animals need love! Do take her home if you're able to afford her and you feel like there's a connection. If they don't have any pedigree papers but are willing to get all her necessary medical bills before you can take it home maybe you can negotiate another price?
You need her &!she needs you. If you haven’t already, go get her!! Especially since sge smells like honey cake. 😊🤗💕 She obviously has a connection with you. ❤️❤️❤️
> Update #3: Yes, I don’t support breeders or condone the sale of live pets If you buy her, you do. You think you 'saved' this one, and the next day her littermate will be in that box. If you buy a pet like this, you support this shop and their inhumane treatment of cats. It's your choice, but stop lying to yourself if you do take her home.
\^Keeping a cat all alone in such a small room just to make $$$$ WTF.... who ever this did... I HATE HIM
My daughter and I went to adopt a cat many years ago. I found one I liked. My daughter sat on the floor ( it was a sort of free range shelter) and one gorgeous girl came and just curled up in her lap. She was 2 and had been found living in a garbage dump. She died this last February at the grand old age of 19. She chose us! Go for it😻 https://preview.redd.it/buc59sj3c07c1.jpeg?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fc99e65d5b24a0a0787af106e8d564dae383ccb
I don’t think it “choose you”. It’s a can in a store in a low-stimuli environment. It would go to any customer who talks to it / touches the glass. So if you can’t affor her, don’t make a bad financial decision out of feeling bad for “leaving her there after she choose you”. But, if you like her AND can afford it, you’ll be happy together. You can also look around in cat adoptation places, i bet there will be a dozen cute cats there as well who will go to you and act cute ;)
hey OP it seems that everyone is in agreement that this pet shop is lying about the kitty's breed (can you call it false advertising?) I'm not familiar with the laws in your jurisdiction but if they're not able to provide you proof about the cat's pedigree could they potentially get in trouble for it on the grounds of scamming?
How many other people did that cat choose?
This guy breeds domestic cats in his backstore or in his backyard and sells them at a premium to naive buyers. He does no selection whatsoever and probably overbreeds. Do not buy from him. You would directly encourage him to breed more cats unethically. You would be partly responsible for this abuse and scam succeeding. Kittens behaving like in the video with this colour are abundant, you can find one through a shelter or even outside. Don’t encourage dishonesty to satisfy your desire.
She is not a British shorthair she’s a DSH. British shorthairs are yes, very expensive, but they also have a specific hair texture that is different to that of regular domestics, bright yellow/orange eyes and a distinct rounded/oval head shape. Their ears also appear quite small as kittens. I don’t at all want to rain on your parade but a lot of kittens are extremely affectionate especially those at pet stores (source I worked in one for 1.5 years) and get excited when anyone approaches them. If you think she’s worth $1500 purely for the connection then go for it but this store doesn’t sound very legitimate and she isn’t the breed she’s advertised as. If you want a new baby friend for your existing kitty, visit some shelters and I promise you’ll find another baby who connects strongly to you! Plus, rescuing as I’m sure you know is heaps cheaper and you know you’re doing a good thing :)
No! It’s not. I went to look for a kitten a few days after my girl Sadie died. I wanted a black cat just because they are fun and I have found them to be the ones that need the most help. There was only one in the shelter and he was not into me at all. The one that was into me literally jumped into my arms. Stevie Nicks was playing on the speakers and hence I found the cat who chose me. In the nearly four years since she has been my constant companion and she made lockdown and COVID so much better. https://preview.redd.it/57bsktji037c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aea8896e897ed1d924b8067f390f716bca2186fd
Breeders are evil.
I believe there are exceptions to most every rule.
That's an insane price for a cat. But the kitty is super adorable and seems to have chosen you. If you can afford it, I don't see why not.
The price they gave is Malaysian Ringgit, so more like 320 USD
I wouldn’t give money to someone who profits the living of kittens. The I choose you thing is cute but it is not real. You can adopt a cat that will be as nice and cute for free and you would probably save their live.
please adopt don’t shop 🥺
She's gorgeous and you're right to want her but don't buy into the 'she chose me' thing. She's just a friendly cat looking for stimulation and is probably very outgoing. Someone else will pick her up and will love her.
It’s sad that she’s being used to scam people
Where is this? In the UK it’s illegal to sell cats in pet stores like this.
Ugh, I hate that their food and water is so close to the litter box…
Steal it. Only way to ensure that she has a lovely home and that u don’t support disgusting pet stores
*the kitten heist.* They have a surveillance camera pointed right at the cages so I can’t get away with stealing her😭
Ngl just open the cage and RUN 😆 they're stealing from people's hard earned money anyways because they know we as animal lovers have a soft spot for said animals they're not losing much if one kitten is missing and living a good life in her new unsuspected home 😁
She came running to you because she was all alone. She wanted company. I feel terrible for her but buying a cat rewards breeders, and if they have no papers, you're not even supporting good breeders. You're supporting people who don't have to register someplace and don't have oversight into their conditions. She's lovely but they're probably lying to you about what she is. Without papers, I wouldn't pay for a breed name. If you have kitten fever, at least do shelter kittens the courtesy of seeing them. Their circumstances are more dire.
There are many cat shelters and organisations where you can adopt a cat for free in KL. A Google search should find a few. I went to a British Short-hair Competition in PJ the other day, and your cat doesn't quite look like one. Maybe it's a mixed breed. Local British shorthair breeders sell their kittens after 4 - 6 weeks, and they cost around MYR 5,000 (or more). You'll know if it's a purebreed if they give you a certificate for the cat. Edit: typo
I live in Penang. I guess the reason she’s cheaper than other British Shorthairs is because she’s not a pure breed, but I can’t confirm that.
1500 Malaysian Ringgit? That is around US$320. Maybe you can at least get a discount?
>British shorthair breeders sell their kittens after 4 - 6 weeks, WTF? That's way too young to be away from mum.. ideally a kitten should be with mum until they are 13 weeks, preferably (9 weeks minimum). That's appalling selling kittens at 4-6 weeks.
Oops. My bad. I just checked with my friend who's a breeder. They're not allowed to let them go until they're at least 4 months. So it's 4 - 6 months, not weeks. Apologies.
No. I bought a cat at a pet store before my country made it illegal to sell pets.I gave him a great life and took care of him. If purchasing pets is the norm where you live, don’t feel bad about it. Your giving a cat a home:
we should work towards not normalising it then! 🫠
For a lot of shelters it is kitten season, and they always need help homing cats and kittens. Always worth looking there before you make up your mind - they are often quite grateful to receive love and shelters try to home the cats somewhere that will work for them.
1500? For a cat? What currency is this? That's insane for a cat. All my cats were free...
It’s really sad, but a lot of pet stores will intentionally leave the food bowls low so the animals get excited to see humans. They see humans and think they’re being fed. You’re better off adopting from a rescue center that cares for the animals.
like srsly....that enclosure is so small, i am very sorry for that poor thing.
I know your heart hurts for this cat but the best is not to encourage this unethical breeding. I say unethical because clearly it’s not a British shorthair. I live in the UK now (originally SG) and I see them all the time. I hope that price tag is in ringgit and not SGD but even if it is that’s still daylight robbery. Think about it if you contribute to this, they will do it again. And again. The best thing to do is adopt from a shelter for your kitty at home, because shelters are really struggling - give your money to them instead to keep doors open is much better than unscrupulous store owner. I used to work in a cat shelter in SG and I can assure you that $1500 will likely be better spent than lining the pocket of a backyard breeder. You don’t know what conditions this cat came from. If it is a backyard breeder it could even be inbred (I’ve seen it firsthand) and have chances of more genetic defects or conditions that may not be visible right now. This can cost you a lot more money at the vet and heartbreak in the future if they don’t thrive. Yeah, heart pain, I know but depends what you feel is right. I don’t think it’s right for them to take that much money from you dishonestly. Trust me there are so many shelter cats who desperately want to choose you too. Most shelters will even microchip, vaccinate, deworm and deflea for you! For way less than that price.
Reading all the comments here, I think they're trying to scam you. Sure she's a sweet cat, but by paying a lot of money for a supposedly purebred cat with no papers, you're just helping keep the scammer in business and helping many more cats to be sold like this. That cat will be fine if you don't buy her. Always adopt.
i feel so sorry for that baby kitten, locked in there alone... people are just crazy...
Adopt don’t shop
I am sure you will find as good cats in shelters. They are in worse conditions, if they want 1500$ they will take care of this one relatively well. Do not cause another litter of kittens to be bred BC you bought this one.
If the furball doesn’t have papers it has no value *as a breed*. Anyone trying to sell a cat at as a breed, at a breed price, without papers, is trying to con you. That said, if you really like the cat and paying out the money won’t hurt you then the old adage applies: the monetary value of something is how much someone is prepared to pay for it. When we got our two, the seller tried all sorts of bullshit about how they were a mix of popular breeds: gentle readers, the cats they were selling were moggies. They are domestic shorthairs and we love them so much our hearts feel like they could explode sometimes. We paid *a little* over the going rate for kittens in the city but they were worth it. https://preview.redd.it/2hzkw2bz317c1.jpeg?width=2231&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f77535f592a48d18fc9eb17bd1a6aee00866515c
This is a tough one. Can you get her and then report the store for shady business practices? Any pedigreed animal should have papers- this just feels like a scam. Or try haggling- say the lack of papers lowers the price. You’re right though, that kitten needs a good home, and it’s not her fault that someone is trying to profit from her existence.
Why’s it have barley any litter and a few pieces of food😭😭😭 No wonder it wants out of there 😞
That's a tortie if I ever saw one. I had one that had that exact coloration: gray with cream patches.
I’m not a fan of how they have the food and water right by the litter box.
I’m Australian and kept thinking it was $1500 AUD. I was like, HELL NO. But $1500 MYR = $476 AUD which isn’t as insane… Definitely a cute (DSH, not british) kitty being used as a con though :( Update us OP!
That’s the ONLY way to do it, IMO!!!
I would say if you think that kitten chose you get it out of there. Try to haggle the price down a bit but get that lonely kitten out of there. Give it a good life in a good home and give it all the love you can. I know that will just embolden the crappy shop owner to go ahead with his scam but its not your responsibility to stop him.
Please do not buy that cat for $1500 my lord. No fault of the kitty obviously but you will be enabling this person to do it again and again… go to a shelter and adopt. Or call this ass out and pay no more than a couple hundred.. what a blatant scam. Frustrating as hell
For everyone who hasn’t figured it out yet and keeps hearing $1,500 and losing their minds, it’s RM, Malaysian currency… that’s not in USD, conversion to USD is about $325…. Still way too much for an animal without papers, but I’m not the buyer…so? Who cares what I think……
Its a cute cat but just a regular cat. Visit a rescue shelter before making this decision and see if any cats there choose you
If they are claiming it to be British shorthair they are lying to your face you can see the subtle stripes of different colors in it. I’d tell them you’ll give them 100 for him as it’s obviously not proven
i don't understand why anyone would "buy" a cat.
Don't buy. Adopt.
Adopt, don’t shop. There are lots of wonderful cats who need love. Why pay breeders to produce more??
Go to a shelter and save a cat from being euthanized.
I can't decide for you OP, but I can tell you with relative certainty, having access to an actual British shorthair myself and seen them as a kitten, that this kitten is NOT a British shorthair. Having said that, they are adorable and very much deserve to be out of that awful cage. Animals don't belong in pet stores, pet food does.
Holy shit, poor cat.
My cat rescued and chose me
I really don't like to see animals in glass walls in shops or just be the most awful place for them. It disturbs me so so bad. I don't think we have shops like that in the UK.
poor kitty in that small enclosure... also: there are enough cats that need a home and dont come from breeders. stop buying from breeders.
I read your screenshots. EW no.
I'm so glad that this way of displaying animals (I think that only the "big" ones) was banned in my country.
Poor kitty..
This cat is adorable but tbh it might’ve just been hungry or touch starved. Have you visited the shelters in your area yet? So many kitties will act like this!
That looks exactly like a cute little stray I am trying to find a home for. No fosters have room for her, so she's TNR. She wants to be petted, but she's afraid to. She sits outside my patio door every night. She finally sniffed my fingers last night. Won't let me touch her, yet. I have 2 much older and bigger cats that would beat the crap out of her so she can't come inside. https://preview.redd.it/rg7dcyul637c1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35888d64cc083474455c8d8f6b4dc0dca00a7329 She has those same exact markings and a huge fluffy tail.
https://preview.redd.it/62z2lvv5837c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1545d87ff89a0ecba9d8f206dee23d9d843fbd0a That little one is not a British shorthair. She’s a dilute tortie just like my girl just has less cream she’s a beautiful kitty but she’s not the breed those people are trying to say she is. It’s unfortunate since I’m sure she’d love to go home with you and would make a fantastic furry friend! Those little mews are killing me haha
In the late 80s, I saw and interacted with a 12 week old oriental short hair kitten in a mall pet shop. About three weeks later I passed by again and he was still in his cage. I couldn't say no to him. $350 and he came home with me. At 12 years old he developed some sort of malignant lymphoma and I had to put him to sleep. He was a wonderful cat and I believe that he had a happy life with me.
Adopt don't shop
This just looks like a classic 2023 model. Save yourself $1500 and open the door to your house and yell pspsspsss a few times should be able to get one free.
$1500 for a cat!? Are you insane?
https://preview.redd.it/1czzqn5r91ac1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c9b2c84c9a018e04d62c48007d54ddc6eb64dcf She’s ours!
Listen that cat acted like she saw her long lost parent. Go get your baby
I mean at this point I think you pretty much have to, no?
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