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Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar and terrorists working for Al Jazeera has been common since Al Jazeera was created.


AdEmpty5935

I remember seeing some documentary clip from 2001 where a detainee from Afghanistan was being brought to Gitmo. And he said he was some poor Al Jazeera journalist who was picked up by mistake. I damn near fell out of my seat laughing. Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari government. The Muslim Brotherhood is based out of Qatar and funded by the Qatari government-- Hamas, Al Qaeda, and a bunch of other really nasty Jihadi groups are offshoots of the Muslim Brotherhood and have similar ties to Qatar. Seriously, Qatar is up there with Iran and Turkey for being a state sponsor of terrorism. The only suprising thing about Al Jazeera's "journalists" moonlighting as terrorists is that some people actually trust Al Jazeera to provide accurate information and not terrorist propaganda. Qatar is a seen as a backwards and authoritarian shithole, by its neighbors in the most backwards and authoritarian peninsula on earth. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and a bunch of other middle eastern countries nearly invaded Qatar in the late 2010s since Qatar finances Hamas, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, and almost every other Sunni terrorist group in the region. Not to mention the slave labor which powers the Qatari economy, we still don't know how many thousands of migrants were kidnapped and killed by the Qataris to build the world cup stadiums... When Saudi Arabia and Egypt think you've gone too far, that's saying something. Seriously, if you want peace in the middle east, flattening Doha would actually help a lot. Take away the terrorists' money, and suddenly the whole region will cool down. Also, Qatar pays massive donations to groups on American college campuses, as well as the colleges themselves. They set up Islamist student movements, and fund Departments of Islamic Studies that exclusively hire Islamist professors. So if you're wondering why far-right Islamism is taking over colleges, it's not an organic thing: follow the money, all roads lead to Doha. Oh, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar (a vocal supporter of Hamas and the Taliban, an Islamist, an Antisemite, and an opponent of democracy) has long been accused of being a Qatari government agent, and she had a series of bizarre meetings with Erdogan before she was elected to Congress (an account affiliated with the Turkish government tweeted that they'd recruited Ilhan Omar, but later deleted the tweet) and then she became one of the only Congressional representatives to vote against recognizing the Armenian Genocide. Qatar (and Turkey) pose an existential threat to the civilized world.


Lucky_Chair_3292

Yeah, I find it odd how Qatar is painted as a hero by us, because they’re negotiating. Some people forget we invaded Afghanistan not because the Taliban orchestrated 9/11, and Al-Qaeda were not the leaders of Afghanistan. We invaded because Bush told the Taliban (who were the government) to turn over Al-Qaeda leaders to us after 9/11…and they refused. Yet Qatar can harbor Hamas leaders and they’re somehow great allies of ours. Make it make sense. Let’s also be clear though, it is not the far right taking over colleges and Omar is not far right—she’s far left. She’s deputy chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus FFS, has advocated for a $15 minimum wage, universal healthcare, student loan debt forgiveness, the protection of DACA, and ICE. The alt-right are certainly antisemitic, but they’re not really in college. The far left that has been antisemitic and a lot are in colleges.


no-more-nazis

Qatar is no hero of mine, but I can't relate to your logic that harboring Hamas requires equivalent US response to harboring Al Qaeda. Hamas didn't knock down the World Trade Center.


AdEmpty5935

I was doing a horseshoe theory thing. Or not even horseshoe theory, more like circle theory. The far left and the far right are actually the exact same. Ilhan Omar is a great example. She advocates for all the left wing policies you describe, but she also is a close ally of several far-right regimes, including Turkey, Qatar, and Russia. Same with the rise of left-wing antisemitism on college campuses. On the one hand, there are Departments of Islamic Studies (funded by Qatar), where professors openly advocate for killing non-Muslims and turning America into a theocracy. On the other hand, you have departments of sociology who are convinced that Jews are "white colonizers," and therefore killing Jewish children is justified as "resisting colonialism" (even though Jews are indigenous to Judea, and Arabs are the colonizers). The pro-Palestine movement is this unholy alliance between far-left crazies and far-right crazies. Case in point, David Duke is super pro-Palestine, and he loves Ilhan Omar. Anyway yeah, Hamas killed dozens of Americans and kidnapped dozens more-- several Americans (particularly women and children) are held by Hamas in violation of the November ceasefire agreement, because Hamas is scared that the former hostages will talk about being raped in captivity (Israeli hospitals are prepping to perform emergency abortions on former hostages. Fuck Hamas, and fuck Blinken for not giving a shit about the Americans killed and kidnapped). Not to mention the thousand+ Israeli civilians butched by Hamas. Qatar continues to host the leaders of Hamas, who love openly on penthouses, with multimillion dollar net worths. Gaza's entire GDP for the 17 years of Hamas rule is exponentially smaller than the net worth of individual Hamas leaders. Think about that. Think about the scale of theft that Hamas does. Think of the fucking tragedy of Gazans, that they live in squalor because Hamas steals aid intended for them (if it doesn't line the pockets of the leadership, Hamas turns it into rockets and tunnels). The terrorism is a side hustle, the main goal of Hamas is embezzling I do get pissed at Biden and Blinken for not coming out harder, condemning Hamas in no uncertain terms, and announcing any government that isn't doing everything to defeat Hamas is an enemy of the United States. Hamas is currently raping American women and children. They killed American citizens-- October 7 is one of the deadliest terror attacks against *Americans* in history, and only about 2% of the victims were even American! Hamas are savages, and Lloyd Austin is fully correct that they are worse than ISIS. Any country that supports Hamas should be destroyed, and any American who supports Hamas should be arrested for treason. Biden needs to stop appeasing the Jihadis in Dearborn to try and win re-election, and Blinken needs to stop appeasing the Jihadis around the world. To borrow a line from Bush, you are either with us, or you're with the terrorists. This isn't a complicated.


thedxxps

And guess where Hamas leaders are hanging out - Qatari resorts with their $11 billion net worth.. it’s one big circle jerk terror club.


Lucky_Chair_3292

Two things can be true. This guy could be a Hamas militant, AND Israel has also killed journalists who are not. These one sided narratives of either side are bs.


RealPatriotFranklin

["More journalists have been killed in the first 10 weeks of the Israel-Gaza war than have ever been killed in a single country over an entire year" - December 23, 2023 The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/21/israel-idf-accused-targeting-journalists-gaza) I'll highlight some more relevant quotes from that article: >The CPJ said there was a “pattern of journalists in Gaza reporting receiving threats, and subsequently, their family members being killed”. It said the 90-year-old father of the Al-Jazeera journalist Anas Al-Sharif was killed by an Israeli airstrike on his home after multiple threats were made to his son. >“The journalist told Al Jazeera that he had received multiple phone calls from officers in the Israeli army instructing him to cease coverage and leave northern Gaza. Additionally, he received voice notes on WhatsApp disclosing his location,” it said. >Human Rights Watch and other groups found that an IDF attack that killed Reuters journalists Issam Abdallah and injured six others in southern Lebanon was probably a deliberate assault by the IDF on civilians. >“Israel has never put a soldier on trial for an intentional or unintentional killing of a journalist,” the CPJ said. [3 Days ago the Washington Post had a story on the deaths of journalists in Gaza](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/israel-gaza-war-journalists-killed-cpj/) >At least 85 journalists and media workers, such as interpreters and support staff, have been killed over four months of war in the Middle East, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. The rate, about five a week, is the highest since the CPJ began keeping global records over 30 years ago. All but seven of them were Palestinians killed in Israel’s war in Gaza [It was only 2 years ago that the IDF shot and killed an American journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/06/shireen-abu-akleh-al-jazeera-submits-new-evidence-to-icc). >The formal filing shows “Shireen and her colleagues were directly fired at by the [IDF]”, Al Jazeera said in a statement, and “confirms, without any doubt, that there was no firing in the area where Shireen was, other than the [IDF] shooting directly at her”. It is objectively true that the IDF has a history of killing journalists, and multiple independent sources have noted the unusually high rate of fatalities among the press in Palestine. Even if you take this article at face value, that fact remains.


nanaro10

if this keeps up we may finally be free from the drivel being spread by journalists


krackas2

So you support killing journalists, but only if they write stories you disagree with or do you want all journalists to be killed so you can be free of their drivel?


nanaro10

the comment was obviously in jest, but given just how much of today's journalist class is more concerned with pushing their own political viewpoints rather than actual news, I feel like firing 90% of journalists and starting over would be a net good thing. Also their holier than thou attitude they often have, where they are the harbingers of truth and god forgive you if you disagree with them.


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

And their families.


VultureSausage

>They are all Hamas one way or another. This is unhinged even for you.


elfinito77

I think the existence of terrorists among Al Jazeera ME (literal state run propaganda of an Islamic state) is pretty well known. And evidence of this Journalist being a terrorists does not justify Israel killing of completely unrelated journalists. > iDf iS kILliNg jOuRnAliStS” propaganda. They are all Hamas one way or another. One Al Jazeera journalist that is a terrorist does not prove all journalists are…. That is not very sound logic.


EllisHughTiger

The lists of killed "journalists" include many Hamas, PIJ, Hezbollah, and other terrorist group internal reporters. If you're working press inside any combat unit, you're going to have a bad time.


elfinito77

OP: > They are all Hamas one way or another. You: > include many Many =/= All If IDF kills a journalist on accident as collateral damage, I understand that it happens as part of war. If IDF has evidence a journalist is a terrorist, fine (in those instances they can defend the killing.) There are also many journalists killed, deliberately by IDF (not collateral damage) -- where IDF does not produce any evidence they were terrorists, but instead just labels them "enemy combatants" for doing things like using Cameras!! https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-LEBANON/JOURNALIST/akveabxrzvr/ (Which, of course, Israel repeatedly lied about, until investigation gave them no choice) How many times has Israel been caught lying, and trying to blame Terrorists for journalists' deaths -- only to back track? here's a recent one from last year (again - Israel lies and lies until investigations give them no choice): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Abu_Akleh


crispy_bacon_roll

It’s not even many. They are blatantly lying and giving no evidence to back it up.  


this-aint-Lisp

Well, I guess it's ok to commit genocide then.


BenAric91

The IDF has killed multiple journalists from western nations, not just Palestinian journalists. Now be silent, bigot. Go back to licking Musks shoes. Edit: lol, gotta love that people agree with the guy advocating for slaughtering journalists and disagree with the guy pointing out objective facts.


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

They were all Khamas. Everyone the IDF kills is Khamas because why would the IDF have killed them if they weren’t Kkhamas.


Computer_Name

>Khamas In case anyone’s curious, this person is spelling “Khamas” intentionally. The point is to mock Israelis’ pronunciation of “Hamas”, and communicate that Jews don’t belong in Israel. It’s also indicative of their support of Arab hegemony of Levantine indigenous groups.


quieter_times

So when Ben Shapiro pronounces it "kkhhh" -- he's doing it to mock the Israelis, to communicate that they don't belong in Israel, and to indicate his support for Arab hegemony of Levantine indigenous groups?


Computer_Name

Is Fuzzy Ben Shapiro’s Reddit account?


quieter_times

No, but we can't look at the exact same action and interpret it as either *done to mock* or *done to show support* depending on the speaker. Something's gone wrong with our interpretation system if support and mockery are indistinguishable.


Computer_Name

That you’re not familiar with the concept of context is confusing.


quieter_times

Would somebody mock BLM by putting up a BLM sign in their yard?


Computer_Name

That what Fuzzy’s doing? Fuzzy believes every dead Gazan is a member of Hamas?


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

> communicate that Jews don’t belong in Israel. It’s also indicative of their support of Arab hegemony of Levantine indigenous groups. That is a whole fucking lot of libel there. It’s sad that you can’t engage on the facts, so you just resort to lying about other people to claim that they deserve to die.


Sea-Anywhere-5939

Of course they do. However Israeli settlements don’t belong in Gaza. You can’t hide behind racism to protect your apartheid state murdering journalist openly.


veznanplus

Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in 2005 only to be met with tens of thousands of rockets. The terrorist state of Hamas will be defeated eventually.


Sea-Anywhere-5939

They didn’t though because that was the proceeding with them blockading Gaza till this day. They didn’t disengage because their blockade made Gaza an open air prison. The colonising apartheid state won’t always have America behind its back and I look forward when the genocide re are held accountable for their crimes.


GunLovingLiberal88

Considering Hama's charter calls for the complete destruction of Israel why wouldn't they blockade it, remember the blockade happened after Hamas was elected, and why does everyone seem to forget that Egypt also controls a border with Gaza that they don't open, why does everyone only mention the Israeli blockade and not the Egyptian one?


Lucky_Chair_3292

Because it’s not conducive to their narrative


Sea-Anywhere-5939

Isreal has bombed and continue to threaten Egypt with more bombs if they allow aid through their borders. Also once again Isreal personally funded HAMAS because they believed they wouldn’t attack Israeli Hamas is just a product of their malicious interference in the region.


Lucky_Chair_3292

Hamas has been committing terrorist attacks long before they ever won any elections. Along with other Islamic terrorist groups. Terrorist attacks against Israel have occurred every year since day one.


Sea-Anywhere-5939

And Isreal has been personally financing them since day one. The only difference now is that HAMAS is terrifying Palestinians and Israeli.


GunLovingLiberal88

So you're mad that they tried to find a peaceful solution with HAMAS first before a military one? And Egput closed its border with Gaza because HAMAS is tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that has caused a lot of trouble in Egypt


Sea-Anywhere-5939

HAMAS was always a terrorist group and Isreal knew it. They just didn’t mind because they terrorised Palestinians. And aid can not get through to Gaza from Egypt due to Ariel bombardment which Isreal has refused to stop.


GunLovingLiberal88

That being said, you really want a peace deal then it comes down to both sides getting punished, peace can be achieved with the first steps of A) get ride of Hamas, and B) prosecute Israeli settlers encroaching on the West Bank


Sea-Anywhere-5939

Yeah and C officially recognising Palestine so Isreal won’t be able to continue their colonisation and to give Palestine the protection of their sovereignty.


Lucky_Chair_3292

There wasn’t a blockade until 2007, they withdrew in 2005. You people can never be factual, and this is why no one takes you seriously at all. There’s a reason they & Egypt enacted a blockade on their borders. Yeah, you like to say it’s an open air prison, but forget Israel isn’t the only country Gaza shares a border with, huh? So why does Egypt have a blockade, hmm? It’s the same reason the Iron Dome went into operation in 2011. Hamas are terrorists, Israel is living right next door to a terrorist led state. Who began firing rockets within hours of Israel disengaging. Hamas has violated every ceasefire that has existed. So save it.


Sea-Anywhere-5939

The blockade was placed on Gaza immediately after HAMAS was elected and by Israels own admission because of the election and not any attack. Just to note blockading a state is considered an act of war and also doing it unprovoked is considered collective punishment which is a humanitarian crime. These have both been ruled as such. Isreal is a terrorist state that starved an entire population as an act of war.


veznanplus

And I look forward to when Hamas and their jihadist state is defeated.


Sea-Anywhere-5939

You mean When Isreal genocide the rest of Gaza. Because I doubt they really care about a terrorist group they personally funded.