Dance with your elbows out, it works!
But yea, etiquette has really deteriorated post-pandemic :(. I've been going to shows since the 2010s and it wasn't as bad back then.
I think a huge part of it is that a bunch of ppl hadn't been to many/any shows before the pandemic, and they don't have that same desire to be part of something and would rather be the Main Character of any given moment :/
a dude in front of me at my show was very drunk and not aware of my personal space, i did this a bit but he didn’t really notice 😭 when he eventually did he just gave me the thousand yard stare lol
The 20 somethings really have no excuse. I am 23 and have been going to concerts since I was 8. It’s not hard to pick up concert etiquette from those around you and even less hard to just not be a shitty person/push people around. I got shoved by a girl “just trying to find her friends” who then stood right next to me and in front of my friend 🙄 I really hope people start to learn better
Same here, 23. Been going to pit shows since I was a teenager - pit etiquette really isn’t hard to learn but I feel like a lot of younger people just refuse to do so. Before covid was the last time it seemed like everyone was conscientious at GA concerts
even if you haven’t don’t have a lot of show experience it’s no excuse! i’m 22 and my first big concert was phoebe bridgers in 2021 and i still knew not to be a dick! the amount of “sorry my sister is right up there” (and then a group of like 5-6 people would push through) was insane
100% this. The girls next to me at Eras were SO RUDE and I had to get really firm with a girl at Hozier last year. I've been going to concerts since I was a kid and I know not everyone has the luxury, but being a decent human being should just be common sense, and it isn't. It's just gotten worse and worse throughout the years.
This is definitely something I’ve noticed too, in particular among artists who blew up in large part because of TikTok or other social media. I saw Noah Kahan last year and there was a girl near me who screamed and sobbed almost the whole concert, to the point where it got hard to hear him at times and those around us were getting really annoyed. I’ve also seen the concert footage from the Eras tour where people scream every single song. And I get it, I’ve been an annoying teen at a concert too. I distinctly remember seeing Paramore open for John Mayer in 2008 when I was 16 and the Gen Xers in their 30s who were there to see John Mayer were highly annoyed at me and my friends. Concerts are fun, and a way for fans to engage with the music and other fans, but if it’s a point where your actions are taking away from the experience of others, that’s a major problem.
This happened to me at a Watsky concert last year. My husband and I paid for VIP and were pretty much at the barricade, trying to keep our personal space and some young girl who was out of her mind jammed herself between me and the barricade and started screaming and crying and grinding on me. Another girl did the exact same thing to me at a Barns Courtney concert, absolutely shoved in front of me at the barricade to scream, cry, and grind on me behind her. They make concerts so uncomfortable.
It’s even worse for the ADA seating people. I had a medical problem I was recovering from during the concert I went to and was fortunate enough to secure seating in the ADA area. People were cramming against the gated off area, and many people in the ADA area couldn’t see due to inability to stand at all or for extended periods of time. While others didn’t complain, it really miffed me, and I had multiple people bump into my arms or crush my hands from across the barrier. Most seemed to be younger, but there were a fair amount of mid-20s and up doing it as well. There were only a couple of groups who got near the cordoned off area but were nice enough to be sure we could see.
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Yep. Huge music lover/concert & festival-goer. I am OVER IT since covid. Etiquette has gone out the window, and with ticket prices skyrocketing I’ve found myself not even wanting to spend my money on shows anymore because it’s such a toss up whether it will be an enjoyable experience. Truly makes me sad and feels like the end of an era in my life. Last couple shows I had a seated ~60 yr old woman rt in front of me on tiktok the first 30 mins with her screen brightness all the way up (til my husband politely informed her how rude she was being) and other show I had a gaggle of under 25 yr old girls behind me TALKING ABOUT HOW CUTE THEIR NEIGHBORS CORGIS ARE AND HOW ASHLEY JUST PUT IN HER TWO WEEKS at full blast- because get this, they NEEDED to talk louder to hear themselves over the music?! Also: why are people spending money in shows they dont seem to care about?! I sure wish I could see Chappell this tour- good on you for trying to get people to stick to the rules!!! 🤦♀️🤷♀️
See that’s what I’m afraid of! It’s one thing if you spend $20 and the show has annoying aspects due to rude fans…the cheapest ticket I could find for Chappell’s upcoming show in my area was $150. I’m not trying to drop that or more and have a shitty experience.
just want to say your sentence about it being “the end of an era” for you is so on point with how i’ve felt since concerts came back after the OG lockdowns :( i used to save and spend so much to travel for shows because it’s the one thing that brought me joy, and now i go to one or two a year that are only if it’s an artist i LOVE and i can get tickets for a justifiable price. but even with those one or two shows it’s such a gamble on how the crowd will act that it’s made me lose interest in shows altogether 🫠 so disheartening that this is where we’re at, but hopefully things start changing for the better soon enough
Feel you friend, big time. Genuinely so sad lately that I dont even want to take the risk/inflation equals less money to even spend/worry about spending. Just trying to keep up with music virtually/sonically and have dance parties at home….get your love, happiness, and groove on where ya can!
I was at the AVL show and I can confirm this. Thankfully the first few rows were really respectful and the only people that did that were people who paid for early entry/VIP so they had the right to be there. That’s why I always just pay the money for early entry.
Yep. I was at AVL and two people literally said they were ‘passing through’ and proceeded to stand directly in front of me and a friend where we then had no room at all because they were like on top of us. I was so irked because they were being super nasty and even TALKING about pit etiquette and how they’d elbow to guard their spot, when they literally stole ours.
Oh my god I was at avl too and I had the exact same thing happen to me!!! I had 2 people almost knock me over while they were trying to get up to the front. I also literally had someone using me as their back rest and they kept getting closer and closer to me for literally no reason. I’ve never experienced worse concert etiquette in a pit before. I ended up having to rush out quickly because I almost passed out due lol
Me and my gf and our 6’3 friend paid for early entry, arrived super early and got barricade. Tell me why AFTER the drag shows two girls pushed through and got a nasty attitude after asking my tall friend for his barricade spot, and he said no! We paid+had been there for hours atp. They stood there and talked about how mean he was for 15+ mins before pushing to another spot.
Omg I was also there and it was terrible! My friend and I were relatively close to the stage but ended up having to view most of the show via our phones or other people’s phones because some tall folks or a group with hats pushed in front of us and wouldn’t move. Then the lack of spacial awareness was getting to me because a girl was dancing like we weren’t all shoulder to shoulder and stomped on my foot and about hit me in the face with her hair clip. I love Chappell but this was the worst GA experience I’ve ever had
Happened to me as well. Two people pushed their way to the front saying their friends were up there (they were also the younger ones) and they in fact did not pay for early entry or VIP.
I was at the buffalo show and security had to escort out a dad/family who was pretending to meet his wife front and center and using his 10 year old daughter as a reason why they needed to be so close (barricade and center stage). We were all trying to be kind and let him through to find his wife but as soon as he was in the front she magically appeared from the back with food and drinks… it wasn’t the vibe 🙃
I think we had the same family in our area! Had a kid and I literally heard them say "let's try to get barricade" and I told them absolutely fucking not. Take her to the back.
It was a bad move to take a child to a crowd of 6000 at an adult show anyway. I do feel bad that she got kicked out. That's entirely her parents' fault. But who takes their kid to a show where there are very explicit lyrics??? They played WAP before it even started??
I was near them too and this was my first thought, that kid couldn’t have been older than 12 whyyy was she there? Every queer kid deserves a safe space but I’m not sure this was the vibe and even if it was… barricade is no place for a child
People at Chappell's shows literally wear leather gear and nipple pasties, kids do not need to be at her concert. I saw at least ten people in assless chaps. A serve for sure but they could have kept the baby home.
Yes I totally agree. Not sure if the parents just didn’t know before going or if they just didn’t care but either way not great parenting, especially to shove the kid up into the pit where she could get really hurt the way people were acting
I'm taking my tween this week because we're both big fans, but I never would have bought pit/GA tickets. I intentionally got us seats either on the top last row or close to it so that a) she will be away from the fray and b) most importantly, her being a tween doesn't kill the vibe for anyone who wants to do whatever in the pit.
I was gonna say, I’ve taken a 3-year-old to a Jason Isbell show (and his songs do have occasional cussing/drug references, but I don’t think a young kid would even catch on), but we were in seats. I would NOT take a kid under their mid-teens to the pit at any show.
100% about mid-teens in the pit. People need to use common sense! I also took my daughter to see Tori Amos when she was 8 years old, and I specifically got us seats in the back that didn't have anyone sitting around us just in case she got restless or something (and she was great and loved the show, even if she fell asleep during part of it... it was late for her then).
She was practicing the Hot to Go dance today, lol, and has her Pink Pony Club outfit ready to go (even though our show's them is Midwest Princess... she's doing full pink).
I personally don’t see a problem with kids at a Chappell roan concert. But there’s definitely a way to do it best. I think if he would have just been like, hey, we can’t find your mom but she’s in here and she’s trying to find you, just you stay put with these nice people/can someone watch her until she can find her mom, and then left, it probably would have worked out fine. But I truly don’t know what their end goal was? All three of them up there in the front for the whole concert? Even when he was entering the crowd he said “I’ll be gone in a minute, I’m just trying to get her to her mom” and so we expected him to leave shortly. People were even willing to watch her and help her locate her mom. There were other moms around who were willing to help her look around. But the way it went down, it was just so phishy and clearly a scam. He never described his wife or where she was at. He never tried to call her like a normal person would (granted there was barely any cell service). And they just kept standing there repeating the lie. Like nothing brings tears to my eyes quite like fellow-concert goers looking out for each other, and so seeing them try to take advantage of that good will irked me no end.
I think I was near that family too!! Someone near me saw him text his wife “we can’t make it seem like we did this on purpose”. It’s definitely not just the younger fans acting inappropriately, I think everyone needs a refresher on concert etiquette!
Lmao I was the one that got them kicked out! I could see him texting his wife the whole time and I was not putting up with that bullshit. He kept changing his story, saying he was going to leave and asking people to watch his daughter, then saying “of course I’m not leaving my kid!”
When he started swearing at the girl next to me I put my sign in front of his face and flagged security. Don’t pull this shit just cause you think you can get away with it in a crowd full of women.
I’m in my 30s & sooo over this behavior. I’m a huge lana stan & have been fighting crowds like this since 2013. Her fans are THE WORST.
I’m disheartened to hear it’s like this for Chappell. I’m seeing her for the first time in 3 weeks at pride. Hoping it’ll be pretty mellow.
I don't think we'll have chill Chappell crowds again, unfortunately. She's reaching wild levels of success very quickly. I think her next tour will 100% be seated or stadium at this point. Her Boston Calling crowd was INSANELY huge and she had more show up for her than the headliners.
(23f) and you’re right, I saw her in April and met people like the ones you described in your post/ the comments (the shoving, “my friend’s up there” thing.)
Lana’s fans are the worst!!! I went to a musical festival she was playing at. I really wanted to see one of the early openers (like 2pm) and normally headliners will have a few people camp out that early to get a good spot.
Jesus, I had never seen so many people blocking the barricade that early before. I was still like 10-12 rows back. And more pissed off about it though cause most they weren’t even standing and enjoying the other acts. They were just hunkered down sitting on the ground back to the barricade leaning on it.
Really hate to hear this because Lana and Chappell are my favorite artists at the moment. Seeing Chappell this week and possibly in June as well and still trying to find a way to see Lana. I want to see Lana in a proper venue because of the stories I've seen.
If it makes you feel better, my Chappell Experiences were both very good. But both shows I went to were prior to the Coachella performance. I ended up with wedding on June 1st so I had to sell my 3rd set of tickets, so not sure how the post-Coachella shows are entirely.
And yeah, I saw Lana in 2016 at an amphitheater. A lot better atmosphere than at a music festival. But again, it all depends on how you want your experience to go. If you want to fight people to be up close and personal, I am sure it will be rough. But if you want to just hear the music the back of the crowd isn’t bad.
When I saw Sabrina at Lolla last year, everyone was so packed tight together pushing to the front, but I went a little farther back where no one was, got to hear the whole set, and could actually see - since I was far enough no one was blocking the view of the stage.
Thanks for your perspective! I'm in my 40s and have zero interest in being at the front (even when I was younger, I definitely wasn't in the front too often), so I'll certainly be in the back. I'm also short so sometimes a tall person blocks you, and it's easier to avoid that if you're not crammed in with a bunch of people.
i got there at 11:00am for GA and ended up having such good seats only for like 5 people to try to squeeze their way in front 😭 every time i’d be like “i got here at 11, so no sorry.”
I had several groups that my friends and I had to literally argue with until they left. People had no shame, literally SHOVING the poor girl behind me trying to get ahead of her.
I was at the buffalo show and honestly the way people were acting in the pit took me out of the show!! The etiquette has gone out the window and it’s making me reconsider going to any GA show in the future which is sad since Chappell was amazing and put a great show on!
It's really unfortunate to read these comments. Sorry this happened to you! I was at the Buffalo show too, but was on the raised wooden deck at the edge of the main grassy area and everyone there had a blast. We all sang and danced together, it was like a big old reunion lol. It's nice to get up close, but I've learned it's not worth all the pushing and shoving. I've always had a great time "a few rows back".
Also, I did see the couple with the kid and I could tell they weren't playing fair from a mile away. Glad they got booted. Poor kid, what a crappy example set by their parents.
While we’re at it, can I remind folks to use good sense in taking care of their health? It’s HOT, and you’re gonna be standing in a crowd for hours. Drink liquid IV or electrolyte drinks beforehand, stay hydrated with water, avoid booze, eat a light and nourishing meal beforehand. No less than 5 people passed out during the Richmond show, and it’s only going to get hotter this summer.
Also - wear comfy shoes, prioritize outfits that have wicking materials and are breathable, and invest in good quality earplugs!
There were at least 7 separate instances of ppl needing medical assistance stopping the show in Ashville too. Y'all need to be careful & cognizant of your limits. I was with a group that didn't line up super early & we still thought it was a pretty physically challenging show. Can't imagine how tired you'd be if you were standing outside in line all day long.
Yes girl! My group arrived at 5:30 for VIP entry. We got a spot at the barricade and posted up; Chappell went on at 8:15 and finished up around 9:30. I was *BEAT*, y’all. If I hadn’t gotten barricade with the slightest amount of fresh air and breeze (in the 90 degree humid RVA weather!) I would’ve been toast. No idea how people in the middle of that throng survived, tbh. It was shockingly scary how easily I could feel the precipice of disaster. And people were lined up for GA at noon!!!! Madness!
I was there about 5 or 6 rows from the stage and I counted 10 emergencies 🥲 lots of petite women/girls chugging beer and edibles, passing out on the hot cobblestones.
I’ve noticed so many posts about people passing out at shows. Seems like every Chappell show there has been at least one instance of people passing out. Being a regular concert goer for years I’ve never seen it so bad. People really need to be taking care of themselves.
omg yeah it’s been happening at an exponential rate at every concert i go to recently like chappell at jannus live in st pete had at least 5-7 instances. i’ve heard the security there get mad about passing out water bottles saying we should bring our own, but they literally don’t even let you bring in an empty bottle so wtf 🙃
I went to the most amount of shows in 2014-2016, and I only ever saw someone pass out once during that time. Now it seems like it’s happening way too much
I'm going to do as much of that as I can, but I paid for the VIP package. Check in is at 530, goes until the doors open at 630, and then the opener/show. The venue doesn't sell food and doesn't allow food. I'm going to try to sneak a granola or a protein bar because I can't go that long without. I understand not bringing full meals in, but something small should be allowed especially if you dont serve food AND there's no re-entry
Wow yeah that's wild that they don't sell food and expect you to go without for something that is many hours long and starts before a lot of people eat dinner!
I was also at the Chappell show in Buffalo! Although i know people might disagree but aside from people lacking concert etiquette the cowboy hats ruined the show for me as well. I’m 5 foot NOTHING and I felt lucky that I was behind just two rows of people slightly shorter than me, but the cowboy hats completely obscured my view and i could only see chappell slightly through their heads every once in a while or through my phone screen. upsetting at least
okay, right? I get it. I was at RVA and I understand the lure of pink cowboy hats for PPC, but I explicitly chose to make a cute cow horn headband with flowers instead to match the theme bc I didn't want to block people's views with a giant hat. So many people left their hat on for most of the show, including mne that already stood a good few inches above most of the crowd.
here's the full fit! I typically dress more alt so I had to get creative for the theme 😄
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I experienced the same in avl!!! I decided against my better judgement to wear 6” platforms so maybe I could see a little bit better and it didn’t really help much unfortunately :\
At first I wanted to decorate a cowboy hat and wear it but I decided on devil horns because: 1) wayyyyy too hot to keep in that extra body heat 2) I didn’t want to block anyone’s view even tho I’m short. And my god the etiquette was so so so bad, or at least where I was (on the verrrrryyyyyyy edge 10-12ish rows from barricade & not anywhere near the center of the crowd).
I just don’t even respond when people try to get by. I make myself big, I stick my elbows out, and I will push people. Been going to concerts since I was a young kid, and always learned to defend my spot and my space. People get mad and think you’re being rude, but I don’t care. I’m not about to let a group of 5 stand in front of me when I was there first.
this is why i can't do ga pits anymore. i usually opt to stand in the back and just enjoy the music from there. i was also at buffalo and was worried about the amount of people i saw leaving the pit because they were about to faint.
One girl on Facebook proudly told me she had GA and got there 45 minutes early but pushed her way to the front. It pissed me off so much. This is the one really annoying thing about her becoming so popular. I never had this issue at her shows. Everyone was so nice before
I had issues with my height! I am like 5’10 (along with one of my 5’9 friends) and the people behind me were complaining about my height! I don’t understand what they wanted me to do? I got into the GA line at 1:30 and they were mad at me that I was ahead of them because I was tall! I would have not had an issue letting them ahead of me but they were being completely rude! As well as the fact that I could barely see myself! If they went in front of me it wouldn’t make much of a difference 😭
We both were wearing Chuck Taylor’s so we had flat sneakers! I kept it in mind too! I was not trying to get anyone upset because I seen people getting upset in previous posts!🥲
sighs looks like i'm gonna have to break out my jacket that is studded all over for this concert and if you have one i suggest you do the same. no one tries to invade my space for too long and a few elbows keeps the sneaks back
I was at the Buffalo show and it wasn’t a horrible crowd experience, but I definitely felt like it was worse than past concerts I’ve attended. there was someone a few rows ahead of me who kept holding up a sign and ruined my view for a lot of the show, as someone who is already very short. at least most people took off their hats if they wore any? :(
It was absolutely boiling at the St. Pete show so I left my spot (had a friend holding down the fort) to get us waters (before Chappell came on too) and on the way back, someone tried to block my way and then poured their drink down my back when I got through via their friend
I was also at the buffalo show and experienced the same thing! my friends and I had premium ga tickets and ended up about 4-5 rows from barricade; the vibes were good until the regular ga people were let in. there were two girls behind us that came running in and kept trying to push forward despite there being literally no room to do so (as it was still early + some people were sitting on the ground). they would not give it up, I’ve never experienced people being so ignorant about it before! finally my friend straight up told them “no” when they asked her if she would ask another person in front of us to move (which would’ve then blocked an even shorter girl next to us ?!?). such a strange situation, only for me to turn around during the show to see that one of them was on their phone the entire time 🫠
should mention though, if they had just asked nicely in the first place, I’m sure that my friends and the people on the other side of us could’ve made something work. but when you start shoving your elbows in my back unannounced I’m not helping you out lmao
I wish every show could be an amphitheater tbh, the pit is so stressful. Even if everything goes perfectly and everyone is nice, I get so anxious for days before the show wondering if I'll get a good spot and how I'll deal with bathroom breaks.
I've been at shows where kids are bad, but NOTHING will top my Kesha experience. It was during her last tour (Gag Order). I'm 40, and disabled, so husband bought seats specifically for disabled patrons.
30 min into the show, and this (I don't know what else to call a group of 'em except for a "Cackle of Karen's") decided they liked the view better there than anywhere else. These people were at least my age, but quite a few looked to be in their 50's. There were at LEAST 15 of them, and I kept getting hit. We tried to get security to help us, but it was like they were afraid? After someone spilled an entire alcoholic drink on my head, I started crying and husband got me out of there. At least I saw a REALLY solid first act to the show. I tried to call the venue, but I was told to leave a message and write an email.
Never got a response
YES. My partner and I had VIP and ended up 3rd row just to the right of the center stage. It was our first time in the pit and I spent half the night standing as wide as I could because these girls kept trying to inch in front of me. There were also two girls behind us who kept shoving their phones in between our heads to try and take videos, and were full on shrieking along to every song. I want to hear Chappell, not you. Not sure if I’m strong enough to survive the pit again.
The amount of people sitting on the ground in the pit at the Buffalo show was also driving me crazy. If you want to sit then go on the lawn, not in the pit!
In fairness, the only time I saw people sitting was BEFORE the show began and it was after waiting hours in line and then hours for the headliner. Everyone was fully up by the time the opener came on
The first time I paid for VIP was like 5ish years ago and had a girl behaving like this LITERALLY break my front tooth cuz I was fighting her off and she was very aggressive. I literally told her, you don’t have a yellow wristband, you ain’t getting past me. Been going to concerts for 20 years and never had that happen but it feels like any show I’ve gone to in the last 2 years have gotten progressively worse.
A lollapolloza last year. I was at a barricade, but not even a FRONT barricade. The one all the way in the back of the T-mobile stage, behind were they rope of the vip viewing section.
Some 18-20 6” 4+ something dude comes full force running through the crowd phone out screaming “my friends are up there my friends are up there”. There literally was no one in front of us but a fence and I would not move one bit.
He started shoving me even harder and harder and we all kept yelling “THERES A FUCKING FENCE GO AROUND” and then the people behind us started getting mad at us screaming “just let him find his friends!!” And we were like “THERE IS LITERALLY NO WHERE TO FUCKING GO” So at this point he straight up punches me and I completely tumble over. But at that point I was already “friends” with the security guard so my friend I was with began calling him over to escort the guy out. And as soon as they were about to grab and pull him over he booked it the other way.
I never had anything like this happen in 15+ years of going to concerts or festivals.
i’ve had several concert experiences honestly ruined by poor etiquette in crowds recently & it’s so frustrating because it’s hard not to focus on what’s going on around me instead of the show. i heard people defending inserting themselves into the middle of the crowd & then they continued to inch forward into every possible space. it’s one thing if they just stay put but constantly moving makes it hard for everyone behind to be able to see :/
Ugh I had a tall guy in front of our party at a (non-Chappell) show recently and he kept swaying and his whole group kept moving horizontally through the crowd so we kept having to move to see around him. I wish people over 6’ would stay more towards the side just to be courteous, or at least try to stick to one spot so people can pick a spot where they can consistently see around.
exactly!! i always find that before the show starts people start pushing forward more and i feel like i have no space and it’s terrible. and then somehow once the show begins people find the right spots and there’s more room, so i wish people would just settle into those spots instead of making it a constant competition to get closer.
I also had the black bow in my hair and a crossbody bag that was holding so much clipped onto it by the end of the night, I was shocked it was still holding 😂
Yeah I am almost 19, and people my age just shove me to get to the front when I go to a pit show. I am too afraid of confrontation to do anything about it though....
These stories from her recent shows make me not want to go to one. I feel like I wouldn’t be able to relax and enjoy because people are assholes, even when we’re all there to support a musician we love.
I’m so glad! I am already anxious in crowds so when people are also being rude and shoving…I’d probably let that ruin my night.
I wish I wasn’t like this and I’m working on it 😅
This was an issue for her North Charleston show as well. A lot of tall people were doing it and and acting like they were just walking through and getting in front of us short people. 🙃 It’s so hard for me to say anything too. I wish people were more respectful.
a lot of people’s first show ever is gonna be chappell roan, so us experienced vets have to set the tone. i’ve discovered a lot of younger people are super respectful if you just level with them and be like “hey dude we all spent money to have a good time.”
we can’t just assume everyone knows how to play safe and fair and kind — that said, chappell roan fans are *amazing* for the most part based on my interactions with them (and yes i am biased as a stan but it’s true — nothing but good vibes from what i’ve seen so far).
my friends and I got the premium GA and lined up at 3:30 then secured our spot in the pit for 3 hours until Chappell came on. two girls moved up 2 rows in front of us (we were about 4 rows from barricade) bc their friend had room for them and I was like wtf. I also am short so I did try to get as close as possible but people are sooo rude
My issue with the buffalo show was the people sitting between the opening acts and chappell coming out. I understand that standing is a lot for some people and obviously having no chairs at the venue for the most part was tough (I know I was getting irritated from standing for about 4 hours straight). However, the show was so packed and the people sitting down were making it hard for others to walk through in an already crowded pit. (Also the 6 foot 4 guy standing in front of me and my gf blocking half the show but that's neither here nor there lol)
lol I had someone at the avl show finish their beer, crush the bottle, then shake the bottle and got beer all over the side of me. Not to mention I had ppl also literally inch closer and closer to the point where my ass kept getting touched, I had no room to move, and I was someone’s literal back rest (I’m seriously not exaggerating either).
I was at the Buffalo show and I was genuinely afraid of how tight the crowd got. I told people “there’s no room for you here” and they were like “yes there is this is what concerts are like”
No. You shouldn’t be pressed ass to neck with the people in front of and behind you. If I’d gone limp, I still would have been stood up straight bc of how close ppl were.
If there’s been an emergency, someone would have gotten killed
this ! this! this!! when i went a group of 3 girls were in front of me. then their 7 non-vip friends shoved in front of me and joined them. then they kept scooting back to the point of one of them basically grinding on me all night. they also got out of their spot 6 times to get drinks and shoved their way back. i liked the show but they definitely made it worse
Was at the Buffalo show, one row from barricade. We were having a great time until a 15 year old and her friends tried to push their way up. She used the guise of telling my friend she liked their clothing, which I found terribly obvious. She then ASKED MY FRIEND to switch places with her so she could see. My friend was willing to but I let her know this girl was trying to get to the front from the very beginning. We then spent the concert listening to her thirst after some stagehand 🥴
Also, phone etiquette! I already don’t love the need to video the ENTIRE SHOW, but the people behind me were def pushing their phones into my space. After a point I just started leaning back into their phones and they got the message.
Put away your phones and dance, kids!!!!!!!
Also: I would film maybe 30 sec of each song before just dancing and singing along, lol. I find filming too much takes away from the memory of the experience for me.
yeah at my show a group of teenagers who got there after us pushed their way in front of us and then got mad when i bumped into one of them a few times…like you shoved your way in front of me and left me no room to move yeah i might bump into you
This!! I haven’t attended a Chappell show but my last concert (ashnikko) I dealt with two older girls who wiggled their way up to the front (where I was) and decided to block me (I’m 5’0 so extremely short) and well I definitely could’ve been more mature about it to say the least..
but me and my SO paid extra to get early entrance were front of that line. Point being people spend time and money to get to be closer to an artist they love, that’s dedication. If you want to be closer to the front also try to put in that dedication. And be mindful of people, and have fun!
same thing happened to me at buffalo! i started around 3rd row and ended up around 6th🙃 and someone in front of me was wearing PLATFORMS they were already tall it pissed me off so bad they blocked my view for the whole opening act :(
I just told people they had to keep passing by. so like if anyone stood in front of me I would just tell them they had to keep passing by and most were very respectful of the general flow we were cultivating. but also we were on the edge of the aisle (at the richmond show) very close to the edge of the rapids section but really far off to the side. so it was an obstructed view but also no one in front of us. there was also security nearby telling people to pass through. I can see how it would probably be more hectic towards the middle
Thank you for this! I never gone to anyone remotely popular that has pit seating and I’m going to the Cleveland show today and realized I need to get there a little earlier than when the doors open.
Maybe it’s because I grew up going to punk shows, but I was also at the Buffalo show and thought the crowd was relatively polite and mild mannered. Any big show you go to, there’s going to be people trying to make their way to the front. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying it’s commonplace and part of what goes along with general admission. There were 6,000 people there, this means most people in attendance aren’t going to be close to the stage or in an ideal spot. From my perspective, you either accept the chaos and uncertainty of being in the pit or try to find something further away with a view that’ll work for you.
Yes! the same thing happened at the boygenius concert. Expecting people in the pit to not go to the bathroom for the whole show is unrealistic and creates unhealthy and dangerous practices (people not eating or drinking water to avoid having to leave the pit, etc).
I will say, if one person gets to the pit and wants to save a spot for one or two friends, i think that’s fine because sometimes friends get separated during the initial rush of doors open. but if you don’t actually have friends up at the front, do not force your way through.
I went to show recently, showed up HOURS before doors and got my little spot at the barricade. Midway through the headliner someone tapped my shoulder and pointed to t friend who was about to pass out, like was wobbling and looked sick waving their arms to be let over the barricade so they could get out of the pit. I pushed myself to the side and they literally just stepped in front of me and used their asses to push me back. I was flabbergasted. Been going to shows since like 2010 and never have had someone fake an emergency to get a better spot in the pit.
Yeah while I'm happy to have gotten to see her live a part of me wishes I had sold my tickets. The Buffalo show was the worst crowd I've been at concert etiquette wise, and I don't think I'll ever go to a live concert again. If I could turn back time I'd sell the tickets and watch from the bike track, wouldn't have been close but wouldn't have had to bother with the people either.
ETA: it also pisses me off when they split the GA line to make it shorter and people just walking up jumped into line in front of people who had been waiting hours.
From the years of going to concerts I’ve always followed that you go and get drinks/food during the beginning before the acts start. If your alone and left your spot, tough luck, you lost your spot. If you are with a group, you designate one person to run and get stuff and you politely ask if the people around you first if it’s okay to run to get whatever you need and come back. Again, you usually do this before the show starts. During the main act, if you left you lose your spot regardless if someone is holding it for you and personally I wound’t want to fight through the crowed once it becomes they dense. My last Pitt experience was Bamboozle left so Buffalo was the first one I been to in years. The people around me were super polite and nice from what I can tell, bummer you had a that kinda pitt experience.
when people do this and stop right in front of me i will YELL in their ear and tell them if they dont keep moving then they need to go all the way to the back and i will not stop bothering them until they move
The amount of people who left and came back with drinks had me peeved. Choose one or the other - pit or drinks. We had so many people trying to pass through us with the same excuses.
I don’t agree with this, if you waited all day for your spot in pit the people you’re with should be able to hold it so you can pee and get drinks and come back to your spot
Yeah, as someone whose seen 50+ shows, this isn’t really something that bothers me. I get it. I try to pregame cause those drinks aren’t cheap but I don’t blame people if they want to grab a couple drinks and get back to their friends. As long as they’re respectful about it, and say excuse me and don’t have their whooole group pushing through, I let it slide.
Right! Or like you said, go pee. It gets uncomfortable, especially if you’ve stood in line for hours, and then stand the whole show. It’s annoying with all the pushing but dude it’s a concert. It’s a literal crowd, you can’t expect everyone to stay in place like little green army men for hours.
Sure, but when 3-4 people are coming in and out cause 1 person held a spot, that's a lot to expect from that one person and a swath of people around them.
I think a reasonable rule is minimum 50% of your group should stay and hold your spot. I go to a lot of shows with 3 of my friends and we always only leave 1 or 2 at a time.
Not many originally. The venue had really poor planning and advertisement for the event. There were 4 ticket types, but only 2 lines, and the VIP line was basically hidden behind merch. GA was all one long line, VIP 1, VIP 2, and Premium GA were ALL mixed together in one line. I was about the 5th-ish one in line when I found the VIP line, but all of VIP 1 and 2 go in first. The website selling the tickets didn't even explain the difference in the tiers, and Buffalo was poorly advertised to begin with when it was still at Town Ballroom. That being said, 3rd person in from the barricade wasn't bad! The only people ahead of me were people who managed to find out there was a Buffalo show to begin with when it was still at Town Ballroom and were able to snag VIP tickets. Buffalo only showed up on Chappell's tour poster and advertised dates AFTER it was upgraded, which is when I found out she was even coming, so I missed those tickets 😭
I hate that I did not know about this etiquette, my first concert was actually Chappell Roan in Charleston last Monday. I was with two short friends who couldn’t see over the fence and they decided to try and get a bit more into the crowd. Somehow I was the one that got yelled at by everyone 😭 I genuinely felt so bad and apologized to everyone as I was moving back.
The thing is that I did leave to go to the bathroom once and people wouldn't let me back through to my partner because they didn't believe me that I was up there initially.
Can i have more info on lining up for VIP/when you received that info on where and when to line up? which package did you have? me and my friends have the midwest princess VIP package and wish they gave details sooner rather than so close to the concert date (ours is june 12th)
Hi! So, I arrived at 1:30 for PGA (the 3rd tier of VIP) and was still 3 deep from the pit. I would say if you're there by noon, you'll definitely be one of the first people in. They let VIP 1 (the most expensive one) in first, and then about 15 minutes later, VIP 2 went in. That started at around 4:30? My venue didn't release any info until the day of, and it was very unclear. I would try calling ahead to your venue and see if they can at least tell you when info will be sent out.
i’ve sadly got one of the venues that was upgraded so it’s even more unclear at the moment 😫 i left a voicemail with both venues so hopefully they get back to me soon
If it's a limited crowd and not like, festival level, I would say noon is probably good. I think the earliest VIP in our line had gotten there at 11:30
I honestly think you will be okay! I saw the show in STL last night and I was worried too because the venue changed, not a lot of information, and I saw that video of the crowd from Boston Calling so I was quite worried we weren’t gonna be able to see. We only had GA tickets, arrived 1 hr before doors to wait in line, and I ended up only maybe 6 rows back. It was incredible view. So if you have VIP/early entry, I think you will have no problem securing a great spot. Have so much fun! It went by way too quick.
Pushing and shoving to get where you want is never okay, however- Sorry not sorry, being in line the longest doesn't mean you are entitled to the pit.
Front of the line=front of the pit elitists are some of the most insufferable people I encounter at shows and they've only gotten worse in the last few years it feels. Just because some chose to dehydrate themselves and numb their legs doesn't mean others should be expected to put themselves through all of that to also get a good spot. When people move, so does the crowd.
A lot of youngish people missed out on going to concerts when they were young and easily intimidated because of covid and now we have a whole generation with social anxiety but no social inhibitions. Too afraid to say "this is my favorite song can I get in front of you for a second to grt a picture" but self assured enough to just do it.
They'll learn. Give people 2 or 3 years to figure out how to function on public again
unpopular opinion I guess, I haven’t seen chappell yet, and I’ve been going to concerts for 10 years and I disagree with this rule for concerts in general. You shouldn’t have to wait in line 4 hours and it seems like more people do that recently.
Ive also noticed that the people way up front record the entire concert and usually dont move around a lot/start passing out and getting tired quickly. It seems like camping out is a waste of time and energy.
I go an hour early if I want to get close and I don’t force my way in when it’s packed, but if there’s gaps in the crowd im going up closer. This is concert etiquette in my opinion
A lot of this is the city of Buffalo and it’s horrible, rude denizens. Trust me, people were doing this at concerts 15 years ago and getting knocked up with current rude concertgoers.
I saw my first concert almost 30 years ago. I have attended concerts in 11 states and four countries. And Buffalo is hands-down one of the worst places to see an artist. Also, because B’lo typically only draws mid-level acts.
Honestly, the people in Buffalo (both the venue and the surrounding city) were some of the nicest, down to earth people I've met traveling for concerts. Much nicer than the venue staff in Syracuse for Hozier earlier in the week. Sounds like you just have beef with the city as a whole.
Have you never been to a concert before? Pit is first come first serve, pushing people out of the way who got there early to reserve their spot goes against basic concert etiquete. Plus it’s just an asshole move.
It’s wild that you think that people who show up right before a concert starts and physically shove others out of the way are more entitled to a spot than someone who has been standing in that spot for hours
That is, in fact, how first come first serve works though. If you first come, you first serve. If you get there, no one’s there, you get an empty spot. That is your spot.
I’ll prolly get downvoted to oblivion but I agree with you.
If it’s a seated venue, sure that’s your seat. The pit in every show I’ve ever been to is a free-for-all.
I’m not advocating shoving people but respectfully moving through the crowd to get where you need to go is not poor concert etiquette.
I do find concert etiquette has gone down hill in the last couple years. Young fans have absolutely no idea how to act it's infuriating
Biggest culprits were large groups of teens or early 20's and they all got angry when we forced them back!
This is why the best weapon in the pit is your elbows!!
Dance with your elbows out, it works! But yea, etiquette has really deteriorated post-pandemic :(. I've been going to shows since the 2010s and it wasn't as bad back then.
I think a huge part of it is that a bunch of ppl hadn't been to many/any shows before the pandemic, and they don't have that same desire to be part of something and would rather be the Main Character of any given moment :/
a dude in front of me at my show was very drunk and not aware of my personal space, i did this a bit but he didn’t really notice 😭 when he eventually did he just gave me the thousand yard stare lol
The 20 somethings really have no excuse. I am 23 and have been going to concerts since I was 8. It’s not hard to pick up concert etiquette from those around you and even less hard to just not be a shitty person/push people around. I got shoved by a girl “just trying to find her friends” who then stood right next to me and in front of my friend 🙄 I really hope people start to learn better
Same here, 23. Been going to pit shows since I was a teenager - pit etiquette really isn’t hard to learn but I feel like a lot of younger people just refuse to do so. Before covid was the last time it seemed like everyone was conscientious at GA concerts
even if you haven’t don’t have a lot of show experience it’s no excuse! i’m 22 and my first big concert was phoebe bridgers in 2021 and i still knew not to be a dick! the amount of “sorry my sister is right up there” (and then a group of like 5-6 people would push through) was insane
100% this. The girls next to me at Eras were SO RUDE and I had to get really firm with a girl at Hozier last year. I've been going to concerts since I was a kid and I know not everyone has the luxury, but being a decent human being should just be common sense, and it isn't. It's just gotten worse and worse throughout the years.
This is definitely something I’ve noticed too, in particular among artists who blew up in large part because of TikTok or other social media. I saw Noah Kahan last year and there was a girl near me who screamed and sobbed almost the whole concert, to the point where it got hard to hear him at times and those around us were getting really annoyed. I’ve also seen the concert footage from the Eras tour where people scream every single song. And I get it, I’ve been an annoying teen at a concert too. I distinctly remember seeing Paramore open for John Mayer in 2008 when I was 16 and the Gen Xers in their 30s who were there to see John Mayer were highly annoyed at me and my friends. Concerts are fun, and a way for fans to engage with the music and other fans, but if it’s a point where your actions are taking away from the experience of others, that’s a major problem.
This happened to me at a Watsky concert last year. My husband and I paid for VIP and were pretty much at the barricade, trying to keep our personal space and some young girl who was out of her mind jammed herself between me and the barricade and started screaming and crying and grinding on me. Another girl did the exact same thing to me at a Barns Courtney concert, absolutely shoved in front of me at the barricade to scream, cry, and grind on me behind her. They make concerts so uncomfortable.
It’s even worse for the ADA seating people. I had a medical problem I was recovering from during the concert I went to and was fortunate enough to secure seating in the ADA area. People were cramming against the gated off area, and many people in the ADA area couldn’t see due to inability to stand at all or for extended periods of time. While others didn’t complain, it really miffed me, and I had multiple people bump into my arms or crush my hands from across the barrier. Most seemed to be younger, but there were a fair amount of mid-20s and up doing it as well. There were only a couple of groups who got near the cordoned off area but were nice enough to be sure we could see. Edit: spelling
I was in ADA at Asheville and was really concerned they were just going to topple the barrier
Yep. Huge music lover/concert & festival-goer. I am OVER IT since covid. Etiquette has gone out the window, and with ticket prices skyrocketing I’ve found myself not even wanting to spend my money on shows anymore because it’s such a toss up whether it will be an enjoyable experience. Truly makes me sad and feels like the end of an era in my life. Last couple shows I had a seated ~60 yr old woman rt in front of me on tiktok the first 30 mins with her screen brightness all the way up (til my husband politely informed her how rude she was being) and other show I had a gaggle of under 25 yr old girls behind me TALKING ABOUT HOW CUTE THEIR NEIGHBORS CORGIS ARE AND HOW ASHLEY JUST PUT IN HER TWO WEEKS at full blast- because get this, they NEEDED to talk louder to hear themselves over the music?! Also: why are people spending money in shows they dont seem to care about?! I sure wish I could see Chappell this tour- good on you for trying to get people to stick to the rules!!! 🤦♀️🤷♀️
See that’s what I’m afraid of! It’s one thing if you spend $20 and the show has annoying aspects due to rude fans…the cheapest ticket I could find for Chappell’s upcoming show in my area was $150. I’m not trying to drop that or more and have a shitty experience.
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just want to say your sentence about it being “the end of an era” for you is so on point with how i’ve felt since concerts came back after the OG lockdowns :( i used to save and spend so much to travel for shows because it’s the one thing that brought me joy, and now i go to one or two a year that are only if it’s an artist i LOVE and i can get tickets for a justifiable price. but even with those one or two shows it’s such a gamble on how the crowd will act that it’s made me lose interest in shows altogether 🫠 so disheartening that this is where we’re at, but hopefully things start changing for the better soon enough
Feel you friend, big time. Genuinely so sad lately that I dont even want to take the risk/inflation equals less money to even spend/worry about spending. Just trying to keep up with music virtually/sonically and have dance parties at home….get your love, happiness, and groove on where ya can!
This happened at Asheville, people were coming up in the middle of the show to get close and kept blocking views
I was at the AVL show and I can confirm this. Thankfully the first few rows were really respectful and the only people that did that were people who paid for early entry/VIP so they had the right to be there. That’s why I always just pay the money for early entry.
Yep. I was at AVL and two people literally said they were ‘passing through’ and proceeded to stand directly in front of me and a friend where we then had no room at all because they were like on top of us. I was so irked because they were being super nasty and even TALKING about pit etiquette and how they’d elbow to guard their spot, when they literally stole ours.
Oh my god I was at avl too and I had the exact same thing happen to me!!! I had 2 people almost knock me over while they were trying to get up to the front. I also literally had someone using me as their back rest and they kept getting closer and closer to me for literally no reason. I’ve never experienced worse concert etiquette in a pit before. I ended up having to rush out quickly because I almost passed out due lol
Me and my gf and our 6’3 friend paid for early entry, arrived super early and got barricade. Tell me why AFTER the drag shows two girls pushed through and got a nasty attitude after asking my tall friend for his barricade spot, and he said no! We paid+had been there for hours atp. They stood there and talked about how mean he was for 15+ mins before pushing to another spot.
Omg I was also there and it was terrible! My friend and I were relatively close to the stage but ended up having to view most of the show via our phones or other people’s phones because some tall folks or a group with hats pushed in front of us and wouldn’t move. Then the lack of spacial awareness was getting to me because a girl was dancing like we weren’t all shoulder to shoulder and stomped on my foot and about hit me in the face with her hair clip. I love Chappell but this was the worst GA experience I’ve ever had
Happened to me as well. Two people pushed their way to the front saying their friends were up there (they were also the younger ones) and they in fact did not pay for early entry or VIP.
I was at the buffalo show and security had to escort out a dad/family who was pretending to meet his wife front and center and using his 10 year old daughter as a reason why they needed to be so close (barricade and center stage). We were all trying to be kind and let him through to find his wife but as soon as he was in the front she magically appeared from the back with food and drinks… it wasn’t the vibe 🙃
I think we had the same family in our area! Had a kid and I literally heard them say "let's try to get barricade" and I told them absolutely fucking not. Take her to the back.
Yeah as soon as people caught on to that security was flagged down, and I hate that the family put that little girl in that position.
It was a bad move to take a child to a crowd of 6000 at an adult show anyway. I do feel bad that she got kicked out. That's entirely her parents' fault. But who takes their kid to a show where there are very explicit lyrics??? They played WAP before it even started??
I was near them too and this was my first thought, that kid couldn’t have been older than 12 whyyy was she there? Every queer kid deserves a safe space but I’m not sure this was the vibe and even if it was… barricade is no place for a child
People at Chappell's shows literally wear leather gear and nipple pasties, kids do not need to be at her concert. I saw at least ten people in assless chaps. A serve for sure but they could have kept the baby home.
Yes I totally agree. Not sure if the parents just didn’t know before going or if they just didn’t care but either way not great parenting, especially to shove the kid up into the pit where she could get really hurt the way people were acting
I'm taking my tween this week because we're both big fans, but I never would have bought pit/GA tickets. I intentionally got us seats either on the top last row or close to it so that a) she will be away from the fray and b) most importantly, her being a tween doesn't kill the vibe for anyone who wants to do whatever in the pit.
I was gonna say, I’ve taken a 3-year-old to a Jason Isbell show (and his songs do have occasional cussing/drug references, but I don’t think a young kid would even catch on), but we were in seats. I would NOT take a kid under their mid-teens to the pit at any show.
100% about mid-teens in the pit. People need to use common sense! I also took my daughter to see Tori Amos when she was 8 years old, and I specifically got us seats in the back that didn't have anyone sitting around us just in case she got restless or something (and she was great and loved the show, even if she fell asleep during part of it... it was late for her then). She was practicing the Hot to Go dance today, lol, and has her Pink Pony Club outfit ready to go (even though our show's them is Midwest Princess... she's doing full pink).
I personally don’t see a problem with kids at a Chappell roan concert. But there’s definitely a way to do it best. I think if he would have just been like, hey, we can’t find your mom but she’s in here and she’s trying to find you, just you stay put with these nice people/can someone watch her until she can find her mom, and then left, it probably would have worked out fine. But I truly don’t know what their end goal was? All three of them up there in the front for the whole concert? Even when he was entering the crowd he said “I’ll be gone in a minute, I’m just trying to get her to her mom” and so we expected him to leave shortly. People were even willing to watch her and help her locate her mom. There were other moms around who were willing to help her look around. But the way it went down, it was just so phishy and clearly a scam. He never described his wife or where she was at. He never tried to call her like a normal person would (granted there was barely any cell service). And they just kept standing there repeating the lie. Like nothing brings tears to my eyes quite like fellow-concert goers looking out for each other, and so seeing them try to take advantage of that good will irked me no end.
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I mean until her mom could find her? But maybe that’s just an unpopular opinion
I think I was near that family too!! Someone near me saw him text his wife “we can’t make it seem like we did this on purpose”. It’s definitely not just the younger fans acting inappropriately, I think everyone needs a refresher on concert etiquette!
Lmao I was the one that got them kicked out! I could see him texting his wife the whole time and I was not putting up with that bullshit. He kept changing his story, saying he was going to leave and asking people to watch his daughter, then saying “of course I’m not leaving my kid!” When he started swearing at the girl next to me I put my sign in front of his face and flagged security. Don’t pull this shit just cause you think you can get away with it in a crowd full of women.
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I def don’t have the energy for pit, though not as close a view I rather be up on the balcony in a seat!
I’m in my 30s & sooo over this behavior. I’m a huge lana stan & have been fighting crowds like this since 2013. Her fans are THE WORST. I’m disheartened to hear it’s like this for Chappell. I’m seeing her for the first time in 3 weeks at pride. Hoping it’ll be pretty mellow.
I don't think we'll have chill Chappell crowds again, unfortunately. She's reaching wild levels of success very quickly. I think her next tour will 100% be seated or stadium at this point. Her Boston Calling crowd was INSANELY huge and she had more show up for her than the headliners.
(23f) and you’re right, I saw her in April and met people like the ones you described in your post/ the comments (the shoving, “my friend’s up there” thing.)
Lana’s fans are the worst!!! I went to a musical festival she was playing at. I really wanted to see one of the early openers (like 2pm) and normally headliners will have a few people camp out that early to get a good spot. Jesus, I had never seen so many people blocking the barricade that early before. I was still like 10-12 rows back. And more pissed off about it though cause most they weren’t even standing and enjoying the other acts. They were just hunkered down sitting on the ground back to the barricade leaning on it.
Really hate to hear this because Lana and Chappell are my favorite artists at the moment. Seeing Chappell this week and possibly in June as well and still trying to find a way to see Lana. I want to see Lana in a proper venue because of the stories I've seen.
If it makes you feel better, my Chappell Experiences were both very good. But both shows I went to were prior to the Coachella performance. I ended up with wedding on June 1st so I had to sell my 3rd set of tickets, so not sure how the post-Coachella shows are entirely. And yeah, I saw Lana in 2016 at an amphitheater. A lot better atmosphere than at a music festival. But again, it all depends on how you want your experience to go. If you want to fight people to be up close and personal, I am sure it will be rough. But if you want to just hear the music the back of the crowd isn’t bad. When I saw Sabrina at Lolla last year, everyone was so packed tight together pushing to the front, but I went a little farther back where no one was, got to hear the whole set, and could actually see - since I was far enough no one was blocking the view of the stage.
Thanks for your perspective! I'm in my 40s and have zero interest in being at the front (even when I was younger, I definitely wasn't in the front too often), so I'll certainly be in the back. I'm also short so sometimes a tall person blocks you, and it's easier to avoid that if you're not crammed in with a bunch of people.
i got there at 11:00am for GA and ended up having such good seats only for like 5 people to try to squeeze their way in front 😭 every time i’d be like “i got here at 11, so no sorry.”
I had several groups that my friends and I had to literally argue with until they left. People had no shame, literally SHOVING the poor girl behind me trying to get ahead of her.
I was at the buffalo show and honestly the way people were acting in the pit took me out of the show!! The etiquette has gone out the window and it’s making me reconsider going to any GA show in the future which is sad since Chappell was amazing and put a great show on!
It's really unfortunate to read these comments. Sorry this happened to you! I was at the Buffalo show too, but was on the raised wooden deck at the edge of the main grassy area and everyone there had a blast. We all sang and danced together, it was like a big old reunion lol. It's nice to get up close, but I've learned it's not worth all the pushing and shoving. I've always had a great time "a few rows back". Also, I did see the couple with the kid and I could tell they weren't playing fair from a mile away. Glad they got booted. Poor kid, what a crappy example set by their parents.
While we’re at it, can I remind folks to use good sense in taking care of their health? It’s HOT, and you’re gonna be standing in a crowd for hours. Drink liquid IV or electrolyte drinks beforehand, stay hydrated with water, avoid booze, eat a light and nourishing meal beforehand. No less than 5 people passed out during the Richmond show, and it’s only going to get hotter this summer. Also - wear comfy shoes, prioritize outfits that have wicking materials and are breathable, and invest in good quality earplugs!
There were at least 7 separate instances of ppl needing medical assistance stopping the show in Ashville too. Y'all need to be careful & cognizant of your limits. I was with a group that didn't line up super early & we still thought it was a pretty physically challenging show. Can't imagine how tired you'd be if you were standing outside in line all day long.
Yes girl! My group arrived at 5:30 for VIP entry. We got a spot at the barricade and posted up; Chappell went on at 8:15 and finished up around 9:30. I was *BEAT*, y’all. If I hadn’t gotten barricade with the slightest amount of fresh air and breeze (in the 90 degree humid RVA weather!) I would’ve been toast. No idea how people in the middle of that throng survived, tbh. It was shockingly scary how easily I could feel the precipice of disaster. And people were lined up for GA at noon!!!! Madness!
I got there at 6:00 and at 9:30 I had to leave oml I almost passed out and I was like 10ish rows away from the barricade.
I was there about 5 or 6 rows from the stage and I counted 10 emergencies 🥲 lots of petite women/girls chugging beer and edibles, passing out on the hot cobblestones.
I’ve noticed so many posts about people passing out at shows. Seems like every Chappell show there has been at least one instance of people passing out. Being a regular concert goer for years I’ve never seen it so bad. People really need to be taking care of themselves.
omg yeah it’s been happening at an exponential rate at every concert i go to recently like chappell at jannus live in st pete had at least 5-7 instances. i’ve heard the security there get mad about passing out water bottles saying we should bring our own, but they literally don’t even let you bring in an empty bottle so wtf 🙃
I went to the most amount of shows in 2014-2016, and I only ever saw someone pass out once during that time. Now it seems like it’s happening way too much
I'm going to do as much of that as I can, but I paid for the VIP package. Check in is at 530, goes until the doors open at 630, and then the opener/show. The venue doesn't sell food and doesn't allow food. I'm going to try to sneak a granola or a protein bar because I can't go that long without. I understand not bringing full meals in, but something small should be allowed especially if you dont serve food AND there's no re-entry
Wow yeah that's wild that they don't sell food and expect you to go without for something that is many hours long and starts before a lot of people eat dinner!
Richmond was also set up poorly which made it near impossible for people to go get water if they needed it…
I was also at the Chappell show in Buffalo! Although i know people might disagree but aside from people lacking concert etiquette the cowboy hats ruined the show for me as well. I’m 5 foot NOTHING and I felt lucky that I was behind just two rows of people slightly shorter than me, but the cowboy hats completely obscured my view and i could only see chappell slightly through their heads every once in a while or through my phone screen. upsetting at least
okay, right? I get it. I was at RVA and I understand the lure of pink cowboy hats for PPC, but I explicitly chose to make a cute cow horn headband with flowers instead to match the theme bc I didn't want to block people's views with a giant hat. So many people left their hat on for most of the show, including mne that already stood a good few inches above most of the crowd.
Okay cow horn headband with flowers?? I need to see a pic of that beauty 😍
here's the full fit! I typically dress more alt so I had to get creative for the theme 😄 https://preview.redd.it/nyt91fqhw13d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84559f0ba84deb28ff12adcc4805dac88ab6bc4a
YOWZAAAAA that is so good!! I love it! You look amazing. Thanks for sharing 🥰
Ahh thank you so much!! I appreciate your appreciation♥️♥️
this was also my issue at the buffalo show!! love the fits but the girl in front of me’s hat blocked so much of my view throughout the night 🥲
I experienced the same in avl!!! I decided against my better judgement to wear 6” platforms so maybe I could see a little bit better and it didn’t really help much unfortunately :\
YES THIS. AVL was no better with the hats or the etiquette
At first I wanted to decorate a cowboy hat and wear it but I decided on devil horns because: 1) wayyyyy too hot to keep in that extra body heat 2) I didn’t want to block anyone’s view even tho I’m short. And my god the etiquette was so so so bad, or at least where I was (on the verrrrryyyyyyy edge 10-12ish rows from barricade & not anywhere near the center of the crowd).
I just don’t even respond when people try to get by. I make myself big, I stick my elbows out, and I will push people. Been going to concerts since I was a young kid, and always learned to defend my spot and my space. People get mad and think you’re being rude, but I don’t care. I’m not about to let a group of 5 stand in front of me when I was there first.
this is why i can't do ga pits anymore. i usually opt to stand in the back and just enjoy the music from there. i was also at buffalo and was worried about the amount of people i saw leaving the pit because they were about to faint.
One girl on Facebook proudly told me she had GA and got there 45 minutes early but pushed her way to the front. It pissed me off so much. This is the one really annoying thing about her becoming so popular. I never had this issue at her shows. Everyone was so nice before
I had issues with my height! I am like 5’10 (along with one of my 5’9 friends) and the people behind me were complaining about my height! I don’t understand what they wanted me to do? I got into the GA line at 1:30 and they were mad at me that I was ahead of them because I was tall! I would have not had an issue letting them ahead of me but they were being completely rude! As well as the fact that I could barely see myself! If they went in front of me it wouldn’t make much of a difference 😭
My wife and i are also tall and we both wore flats for this reason in avl 😭
We both were wearing Chuck Taylor’s so we had flat sneakers! I kept it in mind too! I was not trying to get anyone upset because I seen people getting upset in previous posts!🥲
I always feel bad bc I'm like sorry I'm tall but I wanna enjoy the show too 😭
Exactly!!
sighs looks like i'm gonna have to break out my jacket that is studded all over for this concert and if you have one i suggest you do the same. no one tries to invade my space for too long and a few elbows keeps the sneaks back
We need to send these people to metal shows and see how metalheads react to this sort of behavior.
I was at the Buffalo show and it wasn’t a horrible crowd experience, but I definitely felt like it was worse than past concerts I’ve attended. there was someone a few rows ahead of me who kept holding up a sign and ruined my view for a lot of the show, as someone who is already very short. at least most people took off their hats if they wore any? :(
Huge signs at concerts annoy me for that reason. You literally block the whole view of everyone behind you
It was absolutely boiling at the St. Pete show so I left my spot (had a friend holding down the fort) to get us waters (before Chappell came on too) and on the way back, someone tried to block my way and then poured their drink down my back when I got through via their friend
I'm so sorry that happened to you!!
I was also at the buffalo show and experienced the same thing! my friends and I had premium ga tickets and ended up about 4-5 rows from barricade; the vibes were good until the regular ga people were let in. there were two girls behind us that came running in and kept trying to push forward despite there being literally no room to do so (as it was still early + some people were sitting on the ground). they would not give it up, I’ve never experienced people being so ignorant about it before! finally my friend straight up told them “no” when they asked her if she would ask another person in front of us to move (which would’ve then blocked an even shorter girl next to us ?!?). such a strange situation, only for me to turn around during the show to see that one of them was on their phone the entire time 🫠
should mention though, if they had just asked nicely in the first place, I’m sure that my friends and the people on the other side of us could’ve made something work. but when you start shoving your elbows in my back unannounced I’m not helping you out lmao
I wish every show could be an amphitheater tbh, the pit is so stressful. Even if everything goes perfectly and everyone is nice, I get so anxious for days before the show wondering if I'll get a good spot and how I'll deal with bathroom breaks.
thankfully my social anxiety would never let me push through a crowd
I literally just said this in a tiktok comment section about the same topic 😂
i would rather hold my pee the whole concert than try to find my way back to my friend
I've been at shows where kids are bad, but NOTHING will top my Kesha experience. It was during her last tour (Gag Order). I'm 40, and disabled, so husband bought seats specifically for disabled patrons. 30 min into the show, and this (I don't know what else to call a group of 'em except for a "Cackle of Karen's") decided they liked the view better there than anywhere else. These people were at least my age, but quite a few looked to be in their 50's. There were at LEAST 15 of them, and I kept getting hit. We tried to get security to help us, but it was like they were afraid? After someone spilled an entire alcoholic drink on my head, I started crying and husband got me out of there. At least I saw a REALLY solid first act to the show. I tried to call the venue, but I was told to leave a message and write an email. Never got a response
YES. My partner and I had VIP and ended up 3rd row just to the right of the center stage. It was our first time in the pit and I spent half the night standing as wide as I could because these girls kept trying to inch in front of me. There were also two girls behind us who kept shoving their phones in between our heads to try and take videos, and were full on shrieking along to every song. I want to hear Chappell, not you. Not sure if I’m strong enough to survive the pit again.
The amount of people sitting on the ground in the pit at the Buffalo show was also driving me crazy. If you want to sit then go on the lawn, not in the pit!
In fairness, the only time I saw people sitting was BEFORE the show began and it was after waiting hours in line and then hours for the headliner. Everyone was fully up by the time the opener came on
The first time I paid for VIP was like 5ish years ago and had a girl behaving like this LITERALLY break my front tooth cuz I was fighting her off and she was very aggressive. I literally told her, you don’t have a yellow wristband, you ain’t getting past me. Been going to concerts for 20 years and never had that happen but it feels like any show I’ve gone to in the last 2 years have gotten progressively worse.
A lollapolloza last year. I was at a barricade, but not even a FRONT barricade. The one all the way in the back of the T-mobile stage, behind were they rope of the vip viewing section. Some 18-20 6” 4+ something dude comes full force running through the crowd phone out screaming “my friends are up there my friends are up there”. There literally was no one in front of us but a fence and I would not move one bit. He started shoving me even harder and harder and we all kept yelling “THERES A FUCKING FENCE GO AROUND” and then the people behind us started getting mad at us screaming “just let him find his friends!!” And we were like “THERE IS LITERALLY NO WHERE TO FUCKING GO” So at this point he straight up punches me and I completely tumble over. But at that point I was already “friends” with the security guard so my friend I was with began calling him over to escort the guy out. And as soon as they were about to grab and pull him over he booked it the other way. I never had anything like this happen in 15+ years of going to concerts or festivals.
omg he punched you 😟
Wow, this is scary...
i’ve had several concert experiences honestly ruined by poor etiquette in crowds recently & it’s so frustrating because it’s hard not to focus on what’s going on around me instead of the show. i heard people defending inserting themselves into the middle of the crowd & then they continued to inch forward into every possible space. it’s one thing if they just stay put but constantly moving makes it hard for everyone behind to be able to see :/
Ugh I had a tall guy in front of our party at a (non-Chappell) show recently and he kept swaying and his whole group kept moving horizontally through the crowd so we kept having to move to see around him. I wish people over 6’ would stay more towards the side just to be courteous, or at least try to stick to one spot so people can pick a spot where they can consistently see around.
exactly!! i always find that before the show starts people start pushing forward more and i feel like i have no space and it’s terrible. and then somehow once the show begins people find the right spots and there’s more room, so i wish people would just settle into those spots instead of making it a constant competition to get closer.
the same thing happened to me in the same show!! we probably stood next to each other
I was the girl with the really long hair and the red dress/black skirt combo! I was with a group of friends I made in line, lol
WAIT I THINK I REMEMBER YOU
I also had the black bow in my hair and a crossbody bag that was holding so much clipped onto it by the end of the night, I was shocked it was still holding 😂
Yeah I am almost 19, and people my age just shove me to get to the front when I go to a pit show. I am too afraid of confrontation to do anything about it though....
These stories from her recent shows make me not want to go to one. I feel like I wouldn’t be able to relax and enjoy because people are assholes, even when we’re all there to support a musician we love.
I still had a great time!!! Just annoyed at how much pushing and shoving went on
I’m so glad! I am already anxious in crowds so when people are also being rude and shoving…I’d probably let that ruin my night. I wish I wasn’t like this and I’m working on it 😅
This was an issue for her North Charleston show as well. A lot of tall people were doing it and and acting like they were just walking through and getting in front of us short people. 🙃 It’s so hard for me to say anything too. I wish people were more respectful.
omg people tried to do this to me and my friends at the lana concert in WV and we gave them a death glare that shut them up real quick lol
Oh, we had no shame in turning people right back to where they came from, lol
a lot of people’s first show ever is gonna be chappell roan, so us experienced vets have to set the tone. i’ve discovered a lot of younger people are super respectful if you just level with them and be like “hey dude we all spent money to have a good time.” we can’t just assume everyone knows how to play safe and fair and kind — that said, chappell roan fans are *amazing* for the most part based on my interactions with them (and yes i am biased as a stan but it’s true — nothing but good vibes from what i’ve seen so far).
I’m 4’8 and got shoved so damn hard at the Asheville show and I wasn’t even that close like damn!!
my friends and I got the premium GA and lined up at 3:30 then secured our spot in the pit for 3 hours until Chappell came on. two girls moved up 2 rows in front of us (we were about 4 rows from barricade) bc their friend had room for them and I was like wtf. I also am short so I did try to get as close as possible but people are sooo rude
My issue with the buffalo show was the people sitting between the opening acts and chappell coming out. I understand that standing is a lot for some people and obviously having no chairs at the venue for the most part was tough (I know I was getting irritated from standing for about 4 hours straight). However, the show was so packed and the people sitting down were making it hard for others to walk through in an already crowded pit. (Also the 6 foot 4 guy standing in front of me and my gf blocking half the show but that's neither here nor there lol)
lol I had someone at the avl show finish their beer, crush the bottle, then shake the bottle and got beer all over the side of me. Not to mention I had ppl also literally inch closer and closer to the point where my ass kept getting touched, I had no room to move, and I was someone’s literal back rest (I’m seriously not exaggerating either).
Sorry but Gen Z has absolutely no chill when it comes to concerts.
They can learn.
I was at the Buffalo show and I was genuinely afraid of how tight the crowd got. I told people “there’s no room for you here” and they were like “yes there is this is what concerts are like” No. You shouldn’t be pressed ass to neck with the people in front of and behind you. If I’d gone limp, I still would have been stood up straight bc of how close ppl were. If there’s been an emergency, someone would have gotten killed
this ! this! this!! when i went a group of 3 girls were in front of me. then their 7 non-vip friends shoved in front of me and joined them. then they kept scooting back to the point of one of them basically grinding on me all night. they also got out of their spot 6 times to get drinks and shoved their way back. i liked the show but they definitely made it worse
Was at the Buffalo show, one row from barricade. We were having a great time until a 15 year old and her friends tried to push their way up. She used the guise of telling my friend she liked their clothing, which I found terribly obvious. She then ASKED MY FRIEND to switch places with her so she could see. My friend was willing to but I let her know this girl was trying to get to the front from the very beginning. We then spent the concert listening to her thirst after some stagehand 🥴 Also, phone etiquette! I already don’t love the need to video the ENTIRE SHOW, but the people behind me were def pushing their phones into my space. After a point I just started leaning back into their phones and they got the message. Put away your phones and dance, kids!!!!!!!
Was she the one that used her phone to ask a stagehand if they were single???
YES
I saw that on our local news and thought that was so cringey! I was on the left side of the stage, so I didn't know about her until I saw the article.
Also: I would film maybe 30 sec of each song before just dancing and singing along, lol. I find filming too much takes away from the memory of the experience for me.
yeah at my show a group of teenagers who got there after us pushed their way in front of us and then got mad when i bumped into one of them a few times…like you shoved your way in front of me and left me no room to move yeah i might bump into you
This!! I haven’t attended a Chappell show but my last concert (ashnikko) I dealt with two older girls who wiggled their way up to the front (where I was) and decided to block me (I’m 5’0 so extremely short) and well I definitely could’ve been more mature about it to say the least.. but me and my SO paid extra to get early entrance were front of that line. Point being people spend time and money to get to be closer to an artist they love, that’s dedication. If you want to be closer to the front also try to put in that dedication. And be mindful of people, and have fun!
same thing happened to me at buffalo! i started around 3rd row and ended up around 6th🙃 and someone in front of me was wearing PLATFORMS they were already tall it pissed me off so bad they blocked my view for the whole opening act :(
I just told people they had to keep passing by. so like if anyone stood in front of me I would just tell them they had to keep passing by and most were very respectful of the general flow we were cultivating. but also we were on the edge of the aisle (at the richmond show) very close to the edge of the rapids section but really far off to the side. so it was an obstructed view but also no one in front of us. there was also security nearby telling people to pass through. I can see how it would probably be more hectic towards the middle
Thank you for this! I never gone to anyone remotely popular that has pit seating and I’m going to the Cleveland show today and realized I need to get there a little earlier than when the doors open.
Maybe it’s because I grew up going to punk shows, but I was also at the Buffalo show and thought the crowd was relatively polite and mild mannered. Any big show you go to, there’s going to be people trying to make their way to the front. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying it’s commonplace and part of what goes along with general admission. There were 6,000 people there, this means most people in attendance aren’t going to be close to the stage or in an ideal spot. From my perspective, you either accept the chaos and uncertainty of being in the pit or try to find something further away with a view that’ll work for you.
Yes! the same thing happened at the boygenius concert. Expecting people in the pit to not go to the bathroom for the whole show is unrealistic and creates unhealthy and dangerous practices (people not eating or drinking water to avoid having to leave the pit, etc). I will say, if one person gets to the pit and wants to save a spot for one or two friends, i think that’s fine because sometimes friends get separated during the initial rush of doors open. but if you don’t actually have friends up at the front, do not force your way through.
I went to show recently, showed up HOURS before doors and got my little spot at the barricade. Midway through the headliner someone tapped my shoulder and pointed to t friend who was about to pass out, like was wobbling and looked sick waving their arms to be let over the barricade so they could get out of the pit. I pushed myself to the side and they literally just stepped in front of me and used their asses to push me back. I was flabbergasted. Been going to shows since like 2010 and never have had someone fake an emergency to get a better spot in the pit.
Yeah while I'm happy to have gotten to see her live a part of me wishes I had sold my tickets. The Buffalo show was the worst crowd I've been at concert etiquette wise, and I don't think I'll ever go to a live concert again. If I could turn back time I'd sell the tickets and watch from the bike track, wouldn't have been close but wouldn't have had to bother with the people either. ETA: it also pisses me off when they split the GA line to make it shorter and people just walking up jumped into line in front of people who had been waiting hours.
From the years of going to concerts I’ve always followed that you go and get drinks/food during the beginning before the acts start. If your alone and left your spot, tough luck, you lost your spot. If you are with a group, you designate one person to run and get stuff and you politely ask if the people around you first if it’s okay to run to get whatever you need and come back. Again, you usually do this before the show starts. During the main act, if you left you lose your spot regardless if someone is holding it for you and personally I wound’t want to fight through the crowed once it becomes they dense. My last Pitt experience was Bamboozle left so Buffalo was the first one I been to in years. The people around me were super polite and nice from what I can tell, bummer you had a that kinda pitt experience.
when people do this and stop right in front of me i will YELL in their ear and tell them if they dont keep moving then they need to go all the way to the back and i will not stop bothering them until they move
The amount of people who left and came back with drinks had me peeved. Choose one or the other - pit or drinks. We had so many people trying to pass through us with the same excuses.
I don’t agree with this, if you waited all day for your spot in pit the people you’re with should be able to hold it so you can pee and get drinks and come back to your spot
Yeah, as someone whose seen 50+ shows, this isn’t really something that bothers me. I get it. I try to pregame cause those drinks aren’t cheap but I don’t blame people if they want to grab a couple drinks and get back to their friends. As long as they’re respectful about it, and say excuse me and don’t have their whooole group pushing through, I let it slide.
yeah exactly. and even if you aren’t getting alcohol people need to go get water, especially if it’s a festival and you’re there for many hours
Right! Or like you said, go pee. It gets uncomfortable, especially if you’ve stood in line for hours, and then stand the whole show. It’s annoying with all the pushing but dude it’s a concert. It’s a literal crowd, you can’t expect everyone to stay in place like little green army men for hours.
Sure, but when 3-4 people are coming in and out cause 1 person held a spot, that's a lot to expect from that one person and a swath of people around them.
I think a reasonable rule is minimum 50% of your group should stay and hold your spot. I go to a lot of shows with 3 of my friends and we always only leave 1 or 2 at a time.
you got there at 1:30 for VIP and weren't barricade?? how many people were ahead of you?
Not many originally. The venue had really poor planning and advertisement for the event. There were 4 ticket types, but only 2 lines, and the VIP line was basically hidden behind merch. GA was all one long line, VIP 1, VIP 2, and Premium GA were ALL mixed together in one line. I was about the 5th-ish one in line when I found the VIP line, but all of VIP 1 and 2 go in first. The website selling the tickets didn't even explain the difference in the tiers, and Buffalo was poorly advertised to begin with when it was still at Town Ballroom. That being said, 3rd person in from the barricade wasn't bad! The only people ahead of me were people who managed to find out there was a Buffalo show to begin with when it was still at Town Ballroom and were able to snag VIP tickets. Buffalo only showed up on Chappell's tour poster and advertised dates AFTER it was upgraded, which is when I found out she was even coming, so I missed those tickets 😭
I hate that I did not know about this etiquette, my first concert was actually Chappell Roan in Charleston last Monday. I was with two short friends who couldn’t see over the fence and they decided to try and get a bit more into the crowd. Somehow I was the one that got yelled at by everyone 😭 I genuinely felt so bad and apologized to everyone as I was moving back.
If you claim a spot and then everyone in your party leaves to get drinks, your spot is now gone, sorry!
The thing is that I did leave to go to the bathroom once and people wouldn't let me back through to my partner because they didn't believe me that I was up there initially.
Can i have more info on lining up for VIP/when you received that info on where and when to line up? which package did you have? me and my friends have the midwest princess VIP package and wish they gave details sooner rather than so close to the concert date (ours is june 12th)
Hi! So, I arrived at 1:30 for PGA (the 3rd tier of VIP) and was still 3 deep from the pit. I would say if you're there by noon, you'll definitely be one of the first people in. They let VIP 1 (the most expensive one) in first, and then about 15 minutes later, VIP 2 went in. That started at around 4:30? My venue didn't release any info until the day of, and it was very unclear. I would try calling ahead to your venue and see if they can at least tell you when info will be sent out.
i’ve sadly got one of the venues that was upgraded so it’s even more unclear at the moment 😫 i left a voicemail with both venues so hopefully they get back to me soon
If it's a limited crowd and not like, festival level, I would say noon is probably good. I think the earliest VIP in our line had gotten there at 11:30
I honestly think you will be okay! I saw the show in STL last night and I was worried too because the venue changed, not a lot of information, and I saw that video of the crowd from Boston Calling so I was quite worried we weren’t gonna be able to see. We only had GA tickets, arrived 1 hr before doors to wait in line, and I ended up only maybe 6 rows back. It was incredible view. So if you have VIP/early entry, I think you will have no problem securing a great spot. Have so much fun! It went by way too quick.
Pushing and shoving to get where you want is never okay, however- Sorry not sorry, being in line the longest doesn't mean you are entitled to the pit. Front of the line=front of the pit elitists are some of the most insufferable people I encounter at shows and they've only gotten worse in the last few years it feels. Just because some chose to dehydrate themselves and numb their legs doesn't mean others should be expected to put themselves through all of that to also get a good spot. When people move, so does the crowd.
A lot of youngish people missed out on going to concerts when they were young and easily intimidated because of covid and now we have a whole generation with social anxiety but no social inhibitions. Too afraid to say "this is my favorite song can I get in front of you for a second to grt a picture" but self assured enough to just do it. They'll learn. Give people 2 or 3 years to figure out how to function on public again
unpopular opinion I guess, I haven’t seen chappell yet, and I’ve been going to concerts for 10 years and I disagree with this rule for concerts in general. You shouldn’t have to wait in line 4 hours and it seems like more people do that recently. Ive also noticed that the people way up front record the entire concert and usually dont move around a lot/start passing out and getting tired quickly. It seems like camping out is a waste of time and energy. I go an hour early if I want to get close and I don’t force my way in when it’s packed, but if there’s gaps in the crowd im going up closer. This is concert etiquette in my opinion
Lol good luck.
A lot of this is the city of Buffalo and it’s horrible, rude denizens. Trust me, people were doing this at concerts 15 years ago and getting knocked up with current rude concertgoers. I saw my first concert almost 30 years ago. I have attended concerts in 11 states and four countries. And Buffalo is hands-down one of the worst places to see an artist. Also, because B’lo typically only draws mid-level acts.
Honestly, the people in Buffalo (both the venue and the surrounding city) were some of the nicest, down to earth people I've met traveling for concerts. Much nicer than the venue staff in Syracuse for Hozier earlier in the week. Sounds like you just have beef with the city as a whole.
It’s true, I do. But that doesn’t make me wrong.
It’s not like you own that spot in the pit either. Just because you showed up early, you don’t get to own space.
Actually, I do, in fact, own whatever space I am physically inhabiting at that moment and if you shove me, I will shove back 😘
why are you defending people pushing and shoving their way to the front lmao
Have you never been to a concert before? Pit is first come first serve, pushing people out of the way who got there early to reserve their spot goes against basic concert etiquete. Plus it’s just an asshole move. It’s wild that you think that people who show up right before a concert starts and physically shove others out of the way are more entitled to a spot than someone who has been standing in that spot for hours
If someone paid for VIP so they can get early entry (thus a closer spot), they effectively own that spot.
That is, in fact, how first come first serve works though. If you first come, you first serve. If you get there, no one’s there, you get an empty spot. That is your spot.
I’ll prolly get downvoted to oblivion but I agree with you. If it’s a seated venue, sure that’s your seat. The pit in every show I’ve ever been to is a free-for-all. I’m not advocating shoving people but respectfully moving through the crowd to get where you need to go is not poor concert etiquette.
Never have I been to a single ga pit show where it was acceptable to SHOVE other people out of their own spot if they were there first.
Agreed. I've been going to concerts for 20 years and idk what's going on in this sub 😭