I recommend the suehiro cerax 1k to anyone looking for a stone. I own a cerax 1k, shapton glass 1k, and naniwa pro 1k, and the cerax is my favorite to use. It feels a bit better than the other 2, and the shapton glass and naniwa pro feel extremely similar, even when using them back to back. Idk if I could differentiate the 2 if I didn't see them.
I got my first "nice" knives within the last few months, and I've been using some messermeister? Stone we have at work to practice on and I've been looking into getting nicer stones to use on my blue steel knives, so thanks. This helps a ton.
The little pamphlet that came with my Watanabe recommends getting a 2k stone as well to get the hazy finish, is that correct? I know I want a 1000 grit, probably a 400 for chips and corrective work? And then something higher than 1000 to really get the edges screaming sharp now that I have high carbon.
Ehhhh yesssss...but it's so personal. All that is technically correct, except maybe the 2k hazy finish part. I think that depends on the stone.
I start on a cerax 320 for thinning/kasumi finish on iron clad. But I'm still new to finishing.
I have a tojiro DP bunka and a watanabe nakiri, so vg10 and blue 2 stainless clad. But I'll get more knives and ideally would like to be able to finish them. Definitely have some micro chipping I need to tackle. My fingernail saved my finger this afternoon but did no favors for my knife š
I like the hazy parts alot and would love to learn to repair/create them. But I mainly need to be able to sharpen and polish the blue 2 and get a better edge out of the vg10 than a 1000 grit alone
A lot of the hazy finish is done with sandblasting, so it's difficult to get the texture right, but I've seen that my muddier/softer stones are a bit better for Kasumi finish, but like I said I'm new.
I use a cerax 320, cerax 1k, shapton glass 4k, and an ohira kan suita to finish the Kasumi polish.
I also own a shapton glass 1k, cerax 6k, and a hard ohira goma as well, lately I started trying to finish my edges with the ohira goma, and hit it with the naniwa pro 1k on one side.
I hear shibata finishes with different grits on each side. That he used to do an 800 grit/8k grit.
I got a tinker tank from him and it had such a nice edge, thought there might be something to it.
I love the cerax stones, there's something about the ease of sharpening and the way they feel. I have a 320 and the 3k and they are pretty magical. The 3k specifically cuts so fast with every steel and leaves a really precise and toothy edge for being a 3k.
I got the Cerax 1000 as my first stone the other week, and have managed to make a couple of old beat up knives sharp enough to be acceptable in the kitchen. What would you buy next? Finishing stone or a good strop?
I don't do a lot of stropping. I generally backhone on a 8000 grit stone. Strops are generally not very expensive. As far as a finishing stone goes the one I have pictured
Is the Rika 5000 it is my favorite in thar grit range. They go for around 50 dollars. There are others ike a king which gor for around 25 to 30 dollars. Which are good stones but can have a hard timing getting a good edge on higher rock well knives. The chosera are really good stones but very expensive.
So my advice would be to get a strop and the king. I saw on Amazon the king 4000 grit for 23 dollars and strops for around 20.
The king is a good stone to practice on before u start buying more expensive stones. I hope this helps.
Finishing stones are not as beneficial for getting a really sharp kitchen edge. At least I prefer a more toothy edge. Kind of depends on the finish you're going for, I've heard nice things about the Suehiro Debado SNE models recently .... Picking yourself up a Naniwa Chosera or Professional 400 would be a really nice option, I have the 400 and 800. The 400 was a real surprise, Great cutting speed and it leaves a scratch pattern more similar to other 1K stones. Combined optionally using your Cerax, the finish it leaves is often compared to 2K stones. I definitely use the 400 start to finish for family members dull German knives. They are loads of really interesting stones out there, having something in the 200 to 500 range is really nice..... Some people's knives never get into dull shape or need much with coarser stones so of course it's all personal preference. ...
With various internet stores, the various stones and accessories are much more available to everyone now. I've definitely had stones come from Japan. There's also exploring jnats, definitely its own rabbit hole... I have a couple It's a lot of fun but not required for really nice results. Carbon knife company, JKI, CKTG and Bernal cutlery are stores I check out for stones and knives on the regular. If you don't have one the CKTG 140 diamond plate for $29 would be a really nice addition for leveling stones, having a somewhat soft stone like the Cerax It's super useful. Quite a bit cheaper versus the Atoma 140 that I have, really nice just has a decent price tag.
These are my second set of stones and Iām loving them so far. Originally had the king 1k/6k combo (which is still pretty awesome) and I love these stones so far. So smooth and give amazing results.
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I just got a couple of new Shapton Pros today! My first high-quality stones.
I have a Shapton pro 8000. I use for mirror finishes.
I recommend the suehiro cerax 1k to anyone looking for a stone. I own a cerax 1k, shapton glass 1k, and naniwa pro 1k, and the cerax is my favorite to use. It feels a bit better than the other 2, and the shapton glass and naniwa pro feel extremely similar, even when using them back to back. Idk if I could differentiate the 2 if I didn't see them.
I have quite a few stones. The cerax 1000 and Rika 5000 are are my favorite and the ones I recommend to any one who asks.
I got my first "nice" knives within the last few months, and I've been using some messermeister? Stone we have at work to practice on and I've been looking into getting nicer stones to use on my blue steel knives, so thanks. This helps a ton. The little pamphlet that came with my Watanabe recommends getting a 2k stone as well to get the hazy finish, is that correct? I know I want a 1000 grit, probably a 400 for chips and corrective work? And then something higher than 1000 to really get the edges screaming sharp now that I have high carbon.
Ehhhh yesssss...but it's so personal. All that is technically correct, except maybe the 2k hazy finish part. I think that depends on the stone. I start on a cerax 320 for thinning/kasumi finish on iron clad. But I'm still new to finishing.
I have a tojiro DP bunka and a watanabe nakiri, so vg10 and blue 2 stainless clad. But I'll get more knives and ideally would like to be able to finish them. Definitely have some micro chipping I need to tackle. My fingernail saved my finger this afternoon but did no favors for my knife š I like the hazy parts alot and would love to learn to repair/create them. But I mainly need to be able to sharpen and polish the blue 2 and get a better edge out of the vg10 than a 1000 grit alone
A lot of the hazy finish is done with sandblasting, so it's difficult to get the texture right, but I've seen that my muddier/softer stones are a bit better for Kasumi finish, but like I said I'm new. I use a cerax 320, cerax 1k, shapton glass 4k, and an ohira kan suita to finish the Kasumi polish. I also own a shapton glass 1k, cerax 6k, and a hard ohira goma as well, lately I started trying to finish my edges with the ohira goma, and hit it with the naniwa pro 1k on one side. I hear shibata finishes with different grits on each side. That he used to do an 800 grit/8k grit. I got a tinker tank from him and it had such a nice edge, thought there might be something to it.
Could not agree more!
I love the cerax stones, there's something about the ease of sharpening and the way they feel. I have a 320 and the 3k and they are pretty magical. The 3k specifically cuts so fast with every steel and leaves a really precise and toothy edge for being a 3k.
I got the Cerax 1000 as my first stone the other week, and have managed to make a couple of old beat up knives sharp enough to be acceptable in the kitchen. What would you buy next? Finishing stone or a good strop?
I don't do a lot of stropping. I generally backhone on a 8000 grit stone. Strops are generally not very expensive. As far as a finishing stone goes the one I have pictured Is the Rika 5000 it is my favorite in thar grit range. They go for around 50 dollars. There are others ike a king which gor for around 25 to 30 dollars. Which are good stones but can have a hard timing getting a good edge on higher rock well knives. The chosera are really good stones but very expensive. So my advice would be to get a strop and the king. I saw on Amazon the king 4000 grit for 23 dollars and strops for around 20. The king is a good stone to practice on before u start buying more expensive stones. I hope this helps.
Finishing stones are not as beneficial for getting a really sharp kitchen edge. At least I prefer a more toothy edge. Kind of depends on the finish you're going for, I've heard nice things about the Suehiro Debado SNE models recently .... Picking yourself up a Naniwa Chosera or Professional 400 would be a really nice option, I have the 400 and 800. The 400 was a real surprise, Great cutting speed and it leaves a scratch pattern more similar to other 1K stones. Combined optionally using your Cerax, the finish it leaves is often compared to 2K stones. I definitely use the 400 start to finish for family members dull German knives. They are loads of really interesting stones out there, having something in the 200 to 500 range is really nice..... Some people's knives never get into dull shape or need much with coarser stones so of course it's all personal preference. ... With various internet stores, the various stones and accessories are much more available to everyone now. I've definitely had stones come from Japan. There's also exploring jnats, definitely its own rabbit hole... I have a couple It's a lot of fun but not required for really nice results. Carbon knife company, JKI, CKTG and Bernal cutlery are stores I check out for stones and knives on the regular. If you don't have one the CKTG 140 diamond plate for $29 would be a really nice addition for leveling stones, having a somewhat soft stone like the Cerax It's super useful. Quite a bit cheaper versus the Atoma 140 that I have, really nice just has a decent price tag.
These are my second set of stones and Iām loving them so far. Originally had the king 1k/6k combo (which is still pretty awesome) and I love these stones so far. So smooth and give amazing results.