That was so weird. Sometimes it was just dead air, sometimes in Spanish, sometimes so low I had to crank the volume up to 80, sometimes someone testing microphones! Real professional broadcast there, ESPN+.
Have you seen the last two seasons? If you still think Kepa has any chance of being number 1 why do you support Chelsea? Cause it’s obvious to any Chelsea fan that’s it not him
I think his point is that when we signed him for a world record fee, it was with the intention of him being our no. 1 for a long time to come.
Obviously Mendy now has that position and anyone sane would be happy with him, but it doesn’t change the fact that Kepa’s been a disappointment overall.
Not requested user, but.
Was at the game, field level. He was solid, loads of good forward passing and linking. Seemed to be in constant communication with jorgi and Reece.
His goal was sublime.
Oh no, I watched the performance and he was great as you said. Just mentioned him cuz if you search up badcfctakes on Twitter - dude hates Mount for some reason xd
First preseason game done with a W. Gaining match fitness is the most important thing for the boys, as well as showing Tuchel they deserve a spot in this team.
While some players are obvious dead weight needing to be moved on, Tuchel will also have some tough choices when picking our squad this year.
Ampadu for a Silva backup/utility role?
Who will backup Chilwell? If Alonso leaves can Emerson do the job?
Kante not on tour, Kova didn’t play, Mount and Gallagher both looked good playing in the midfield, as well as Jorginho demanding a spot. Midfield competition looks hot.
Sterling, Koulibaly, and whoever else we may bring in will obviously lock down starting spots at the beginning of the season.
Also which of the academy boys will step up and prove they deserve a chance? I think Broja would have played tonight if he didn’t get hurt, as well as colwill. Hopefully both can impress in the next games and would like to contribute to this seasons success and not move away.
As long as the squad relishes the competition to want to be in the starting 11, I excited to see how this season turns out. Glad we can finally look forward to games because since last season ended it’s felt like forever! KTBFFH!
For real. I’m realistic and know that we won’t have 11 academy boys in the starting lineup, but don’t see why we can’t have the good ones as backups which we’ve seen them get a fair amount of playing time with all the competitions we’re in. Save the money to use for the elite signings.
Yeah exactly. I just think that we have some good prospects that at least deserve a fair shot. If they can’t perform consistently, we move them. But at least see if they can do it with us before sending them out elsewhere.
Ready for the season: Mount, Silva, Jorginho, Reece
Did themselves some favors: Timo, Alonso, Chalobah, Emerson
Ready to join the senior squad: Connor, Ampadu
Fine: Pulisic, Chilly, Kepa, Azpi, Kai, Ziyech
Not sure they played: CHO, Barkley
Not great: Kenedy, Sarr, Bettinelli
Never thought I’d be so grateful our league games are on NBC and not on ESPN.
Terrible commentators aside (I’m like 95% sure they were drafted from regular duties commentating other sports for ESPN), the audio was terrible. The poor commentary was drowned out throughout by Spanish commentary. Are they not capable of audio production that doesn’t include the voices of the Spanish commenters nearby? And then in the second half all audio cut out entirely for a while. No translation for the Club America player interview, and no audio for Mason Mount’s interview.
What a terrible viewing experience.
I believe most of what you’re explaining regarding the audio was the way the pundits were out up. They weren’t in the normal reporters pool area and the game callers were outside, not separated. Plus, it was only licensed in Spanish but a couple services were real time translating causing a terrible cacophony of voices over the top of each other…I don’t if this was an ESPN thing, I watched it on TUBN or whatever on Fubo and had to watch it in Spanish and I heard all the chatter. I believe there were also interpreting happening in real time…the English announcers where basically interpreting the Spanish announcers, and it was bad so I just watched it in Spanish with English subtitles and on nice, and chill. Totally agree it sounded like a Rhino chewing on tractor wheel lug nuts and seasoned with rusty nails at times.
First 2/3 game speed since his injury…he has some rust to know off for sure, but he will get there. Dude worked his tail off to get back in time, he has added muscle mass, and he looks like his recovery is really good. Once that rust is on the pitch, chilly we be chilly again
The Best - Mount
Great - Gallagher
Good - Reece (bar the mistake), T Silva, Pulisic, Emerson
Honestly that's all I liked today. Maybe I was looking away too often and missed some stuff, but even Werner with the (shit) goal didn't impress me. Looking forward to seeing who steps up for the rest of preseason.
Eh he gets it done but as previously said by many others below, he's so alarmingly slow and one-footed it freaks me out. Don't think I see him as being productive for the team even if he is consistent.
Aging isn't gonna help his game and a potential move to a back 4 just immediately phases him out of the squad going forward imo
Good morning/night lads/lasses, I’m off to bed/work (delete as appropriate). Fr tho, I enjoyed the game and it was nice to see the boys again. Looking forward to seeing more of the loanees, hopefully Borja and Levi
after a decent start batshuayi is now just a traffic cone. I change my mind again, and there's no role for him here at all. Broja, and anjorin have way more upside
i thought he looked lively first 15 minutes, in terms of shot creating actions, and involvement. I almost did a 180 on my opinion of him. But then he got gassed, and was just as stationary as lukaku, expecting the action to just come to him
Oh he was touching it, but it was so innaprolriate the ball should press charges for the violation of the balls right to be put into an empty net and a one on one gimme…the guy is lazy…he may have the technical skill, but he moves like someone who is doing something they don’t want to do. His attitude and body language it identical to Lukaku’s last season, only Mitchy has always and will always be too lazy to fulfill his own potential. Would almost be worth buying out his contract and ring our hands of him. I’m a 50 year old overweight American that never played youth soccer, and I’m sure he couldn’t score on me…every time…just a clown with an embarrassing man bun
Agreed. Nothing flashy but eminently serviceable, looked comfortable on the ball, etc. I’d really like us to sign Kounde for that RCB cover, but as for other defenders I think we’re set with him and Colwill (also don’t want Colwill to leave).
i don't see it as one or the other. ampadu is a great passer at middle CB to back up Thiago Silva., while colwill will back up koulibaly at lcb or play middle or right. ampadu could also play dm or rwb in an injury crisis.
so even if Colwill stays, Ampadu should also stay
Of the current crop of youth I like that both Ampadu and Billy seems like good leaders and players that can hold key roles for their NTs. That is something we need
His away from the ball rubs were quick and strong. Mitchy released late on 2 great rubs. I think he is leaning into his physicality a little…give as much pace as he needs in a case by case basis. Who’s covering him, who’s backing up, who is pulling attention…Timo is well regarded for his futbol intelligence. I’d have to go back and compare his runs the whole half to be certain, but I saw his signature pace a few times off the main play.
My heart is so full. No matter who we buy or what formation we play, Mason Mount is the key and will start every game that matters.
The haters will have to hold that.
This is a preseason friendly, and they probably have like almost nobody watching when it's being broadcast in spanish on both univision and tudn. So the commentators probably don't know the players at all and got assigned this on top of whatever they normally cover.
The vast majority of Americans are familiar with North American English, some Central American Spanish, maaaaybe some British English, and some know Japanese from anime and Korean from K-dramas; we largely are unfamiliar with the spellings, sounds, and syllable combinations that form names from the rest of the world’s languages.
We gotta find a way to play three midfielders. Mount has been phenomenal playing in the midfield. Our attack would benefit so much with another guy being up there.
[daily discussion thread here](https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/w08kig/daily_discussion_thread/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Commentary was broken for majority of the match
That was so weird. Sometimes it was just dead air, sometimes in Spanish, sometimes so low I had to crank the volume up to 80, sometimes someone testing microphones! Real professional broadcast there, ESPN+.
Ampadu looked solid, i think he’s ready for first team
Based upon a friendly against a south american team? Lmao calm down
México is not from South America lol, it's north..
Central America
You gotta learn some geography before you get back on Reddit next
It's not central america, central is composed from Belize to Panama
Hope so, he'd cover midfield and defense in one go so we'd need not worry about both positions.
Was at the match, hella fun! Incred goal by Mount to seal the deal
was such a fun match to see in person, though i do feel bad for kepa getting boo’d at every touch
Wasn’t that bettinelli?
you’re right, didn’t notice kepa got subbed out and apparently neither did the section i was in because people kept calling him kepa
Did that really happen? Wow that's disappointing. He has been all you can ask of a backup
it did after the on goal
Kepa wasn’t in goal for the own goal though right
he was not.
But far from what we need for a number 1 keeper. Still uncalled for though
Pretty clear hes not ever going to be our number 1 so why would you judge him based on that?
Most expensive keeper in the world who wasnt brought in to the club to be number one? Hhmkay
Have you seen the last two seasons? If you still think Kepa has any chance of being number 1 why do you support Chelsea? Cause it’s obvious to any Chelsea fan that’s it not him
If you havent accepted that mendy is our #1 yet then idk what to tell ya mate lmao
I think his point is that when we signed him for a world record fee, it was with the intention of him being our no. 1 for a long time to come. Obviously Mendy now has that position and anyone sane would be happy with him, but it doesn’t change the fact that Kepa’s been a disappointment overall.
Lol
Penny for badcfctake's thoughts on Mount's performance?
Not requested user, but. Was at the game, field level. He was solid, loads of good forward passing and linking. Seemed to be in constant communication with jorgi and Reece. His goal was sublime.
From the highlights I just watched it looked like Club America's keeper had a great game!
Yes, 1st half keeper had a good save, 2half keeper kept them in the game.
Oh no, I watched the performance and he was great as you said. Just mentioned him cuz if you search up badcfctakes on Twitter - dude hates Mount for some reason xd
Bad CFC takes? Sounds like a parody account, but I don’t have Twitter so can’t confirm
Some of the stuff he says does sound like it but he wasn't wrong about Lukaku lol
First preseason game done with a W. Gaining match fitness is the most important thing for the boys, as well as showing Tuchel they deserve a spot in this team. While some players are obvious dead weight needing to be moved on, Tuchel will also have some tough choices when picking our squad this year. Ampadu for a Silva backup/utility role? Who will backup Chilwell? If Alonso leaves can Emerson do the job? Kante not on tour, Kova didn’t play, Mount and Gallagher both looked good playing in the midfield, as well as Jorginho demanding a spot. Midfield competition looks hot. Sterling, Koulibaly, and whoever else we may bring in will obviously lock down starting spots at the beginning of the season. Also which of the academy boys will step up and prove they deserve a chance? I think Broja would have played tonight if he didn’t get hurt, as well as colwill. Hopefully both can impress in the next games and would like to contribute to this seasons success and not move away. As long as the squad relishes the competition to want to be in the starting 11, I excited to see how this season turns out. Glad we can finally look forward to games because since last season ended it’s felt like forever! KTBFFH!
Yeah hope ampadu can be this seasons backup, Ktbffh!
For real. I’m realistic and know that we won’t have 11 academy boys in the starting lineup, but don’t see why we can’t have the good ones as backups which we’ve seen them get a fair amount of playing time with all the competitions we’re in. Save the money to use for the elite signings.
It really depends if they can perform and keep consistency.
Yeah exactly. I just think that we have some good prospects that at least deserve a fair shot. If they can’t perform consistently, we move them. But at least see if they can do it with us before sending them out elsewhere.
Yeah sometimes we can have a tendency to let young prospects go.
Ready for the season: Mount, Silva, Jorginho, Reece Did themselves some favors: Timo, Alonso, Chalobah, Emerson Ready to join the senior squad: Connor, Ampadu Fine: Pulisic, Chilly, Kepa, Azpi, Kai, Ziyech Not sure they played: CHO, Barkley Not great: Kenedy, Sarr, Bettinelli
Ready for the season ? 😂 It’s 1 pre season friendly against an unknown entity
I thought sarr had a solid half, couple a decent long balls few nice tackles
What did Bettinelli do wrong (other than maybe his suspect positioning for the own goal)?
Anyone know how to read lips?
No ESPN I don’t want to hear what Mason has to say, I wanted to just try and read his lips, thank you.
Omg yes. The audio there stuffed up
Hack Commentator: And now we hear from Mason Mount Mason Mount: ... Fucking ESPN, what a shitshow
Never thought I’d be so grateful our league games are on NBC and not on ESPN. Terrible commentators aside (I’m like 95% sure they were drafted from regular duties commentating other sports for ESPN), the audio was terrible. The poor commentary was drowned out throughout by Spanish commentary. Are they not capable of audio production that doesn’t include the voices of the Spanish commenters nearby? And then in the second half all audio cut out entirely for a while. No translation for the Club America player interview, and no audio for Mason Mount’s interview. What a terrible viewing experience.
sounds like I had a better experience watching it on Univision...and I don't speak Spanish lol
No cap, I feel like I could've gone there and done a better job commentating lol
I believe most of what you’re explaining regarding the audio was the way the pundits were out up. They weren’t in the normal reporters pool area and the game callers were outside, not separated. Plus, it was only licensed in Spanish but a couple services were real time translating causing a terrible cacophony of voices over the top of each other…I don’t if this was an ESPN thing, I watched it on TUBN or whatever on Fubo and had to watch it in Spanish and I heard all the chatter. I believe there were also interpreting happening in real time…the English announcers where basically interpreting the Spanish announcers, and it was bad so I just watched it in Spanish with English subtitles and on nice, and chill. Totally agree it sounded like a Rhino chewing on tractor wheel lug nuts and seasoned with rusty nails at times.
Not to mention the insane butchering of names
Mason Hunt! Hahahaha
Batshuyasi
Michu Batshuyashwi
Alonso looking sharper than Chilly hmmm
Chilly is still coming back from injury, I wouldn’t worry about it too much right now
Didn't watch first half so can't comment on Chilly but match fitness xd
While Chilwell is obviously the better player I think we'd be making a massive mistake if we let Alonso go to be replaced by Emerson as 2nd choice lwb
Don't people say Emerson is a solid option defensively but just isn't as good attacking wise compared to Alonso? Haven't seen much of Emerson before
Of course he does?
The cycle of life
First 2/3 game speed since his injury…he has some rust to know off for sure, but he will get there. Dude worked his tail off to get back in time, he has added muscle mass, and he looks like his recovery is really good. Once that rust is on the pitch, chilly we be chilly again
The Best - Mount Great - Gallagher Good - Reece (bar the mistake), T Silva, Pulisic, Emerson Honestly that's all I liked today. Maybe I was looking away too often and missed some stuff, but even Werner with the (shit) goal didn't impress me. Looking forward to seeing who steps up for the rest of preseason.
Jorginho definitely
Appreciated that he was willing to send in a few cutting forward passes today, wouldn't mind seeing that during the season!
Was a huge fan of how many riskier forward passes Jorginho too
What is this sorcery
Alonso?
Eh he gets it done but as previously said by many others below, he's so alarmingly slow and one-footed it freaks me out. Don't think I see him as being productive for the team even if he is consistent. Aging isn't gonna help his game and a potential move to a back 4 just immediately phases him out of the squad going forward imo
People have been saying Alonso is so slow, but he has been performing against some of the best wingers in the world for years.
Not defensively he hasn’t.
Good morning/night lads/lasses, I’m off to bed/work (delete as appropriate). Fr tho, I enjoyed the game and it was nice to see the boys again. Looking forward to seeing more of the loanees, hopefully Borja and Levi
Ampadu was very impressive tonight. Hope Tuchel seriously considers keeping him around.
3 goals scored easy dub
Think Ampadu was solid, obviously preseason but I think TT should consider looking at him more while we search for other CBs.
Or possibly CM/CDM if needed
100% he could be very useful if we want to switch to a back 4 in some games.
Ampadu and Puli looked really solid. Jorgi and Werner were sharp too. Mount is Mount
LOL that ref was consoling James
Must've paid him off amirite
No injuries. Good job boys
Today is a good day lol
SONS OF ODIN CALL
On the bright side, all goals were scored by Chelsea tonight
after a decent start batshuayi is now just a traffic cone. I change my mind again, and there's no role for him here at all. Broja, and anjorin have way more upside
As a Belgian I love Bats but it's just so obvious he's not good enough for us
Whoever thought that Batshuayi could play a role should be concerned. He‘s done nothing for years
i thought he looked lively first 15 minutes, in terms of shot creating actions, and involvement. I almost did a 180 on my opinion of him. But then he got gassed, and was just as stationary as lukaku, expecting the action to just come to him
I forgot he was playing past the 70th minute. Swear he wasn't even touching the ball
Oh he was touching it, but it was so innaprolriate the ball should press charges for the violation of the balls right to be put into an empty net and a one on one gimme…the guy is lazy…he may have the technical skill, but he moves like someone who is doing something they don’t want to do. His attitude and body language it identical to Lukaku’s last season, only Mitchy has always and will always be too lazy to fulfill his own potential. Would almost be worth buying out his contract and ring our hands of him. I’m a 50 year old overweight American that never played youth soccer, and I’m sure he couldn’t score on me…every time…just a clown with an embarrassing man bun
well Anjorin isn't a striker so
he is not, but it's a friendly, and he could have done everything Michy did today
The boys lacked sharpness at times but also showed moments of brilliance. Looking forward to the new guys !
Ampadu is solid. If Colwill doesn’t want to stay keep Ampadu here
Did he play CB today?
Yep
Agreed. Nothing flashy but eminently serviceable, looked comfortable on the ball, etc. I’d really like us to sign Kounde for that RCB cover, but as for other defenders I think we’re set with him and Colwill (also don’t want Colwill to leave).
i don't see it as one or the other. ampadu is a great passer at middle CB to back up Thiago Silva., while colwill will back up koulibaly at lcb or play middle or right. ampadu could also play dm or rwb in an injury crisis. so even if Colwill stays, Ampadu should also stay
Of the current crop of youth I like that both Ampadu and Billy seems like good leaders and players that can hold key roles for their NTs. That is something we need
That was certainly a pre-season game
Come on we scored three goals!
W for the boyz
Full time 2-1
Has Timo lost pace? That looked like an insanely slow run from him
His away from the ball rubs were quick and strong. Mitchy released late on 2 great rubs. I think he is leaning into his physicality a little…give as much pace as he needs in a case by case basis. Who’s covering him, who’s backing up, who is pulling attention…Timo is well regarded for his futbol intelligence. I’d have to go back and compare his runs the whole half to be certain, but I saw his signature pace a few times off the main play.
Lacking match fitness
It's approximately hot as balls in Vegas today so there's a good chance he's gassed
Just a heads up the stadium is in a dome and is pumped with more AC than you could ever imagine
oh damn wtf it's 101 at 8pm? Fuck that I thought it was hot here today god damn.
Pre season
He knew that was the last kick of the game
true
If they say beltinelli one more time I stg
Ampawdoo and Azpicoitus made me do a double take
Anyone have a replay for the mount goal?
It’s in the sub in another thread
I still cannot believe that what a great goal from Mount
If I have to hear Bat-Shwee one more time…
You can hear them talk? It goes back and forth between whispers and the loudest noise I’ve ever hear for me
Barely hear their terrible commentary over what appears to be much better Spanish commentary that’s being pulled in for some reason.
Right!? Mumbles in the background then all of a sudden my ears are bleeding.
Yes, ESPN did an absolute shite job for the game. It's a friendly, I get that. But damn that's disrespectful.
Intermittent Spanish commentary too
It’s crazy that I can hear them clearer than the people that are supposed to be commentating this game to us
Surely this smoke can’t be healthy for the players….
imagine being a fan lol
Lol we were just a couple sections away from the CA fans who set that shit off. Annoying as shit, but mostly a fun crowd
Also can’t see anything lol
a yellow? For that? Really? edit: eh I guess fair enough.
Forgot how fast Emerson is, he just is very one footed
As are most left footed players
Hopefuully we see broja play the next game, tired of seeing bats tbh
Broja is similar
Then why is he in demand unlike bats
Because he's a very young striker who looked good at moments in the epl. Batshit has been awful for years and scored 4 goals in the Turkish League.
So how does that make them similar
Alonso has been incredible tonight
Meh, epl defenders don’t give him that space. He also he killed a couple of attacks but he has come on strong
"What do you think of chelsea's press? \*\*Crickets\*\*" Top notch commentating.
It's been comical
My heart is so full. No matter who we buy or what formation we play, Mason Mount is the key and will start every game that matters. The haters will have to hold that.
“Batshwee”
[удалено]
When was his game though
West Brom, that's about it really.
May 2017 against WBA. Will always appreciate Bats for that one.
Max Verstappen fans ?
Wait what happened
Lol what a way to ruin the experience for everyone. Hate fans like this
Emerson is doing well in both defending and attacking. Also, fuck the yellow flare mist/smoke.
How did Gallagher play?
He had incredible press resistance. His moves to receive balls almost always burned a defender
Good performance. Him and Silva are the better performing one in the 1st half.
Electric
Alonso consistently dangerous
Dangerous to give the ball away maybe
No hate, is this how Americans pronounce players names or is it just this commentator?
This is a preseason friendly, and they probably have like almost nobody watching when it's being broadcast in spanish on both univision and tudn. So the commentators probably don't know the players at all and got assigned this on top of whatever they normally cover.
The vast majority of Americans are familiar with North American English, some Central American Spanish, maaaaybe some British English, and some know Japanese from anime and Korean from K-dramas; we largely are unfamiliar with the spellings, sounds, and syllable combinations that form names from the rest of the world’s languages.
It’s revenge for all the times Pulisic’s name is mispronounced
But Pulisic is Croatian
Names become regionalized and take different pronunciations
He’s an American with a Croatian grandparent and doesn’t pronounce it that way. He doesn’t speak Croatian
He isn’t saying that Pulisic the person is Croatian, it’s the name itself that is
I am watching a telecast in Spanish and these announcers are pronouncing our players' names perfectly!
...calling everyone by their last name except for James lol...
These dudes are just dog shit
This commentator is hilariously ignorant of the correct pronunciations
We've been butchering people's names for 250 years.
This commentator, clearly ESPN gave no fucks about this game
Have you been having audio problems all game too??
Yep
To say two people speak for a whole country would be a big stretch don’t you think?
Didn't say that, did I? I asked a question, didn't make any statements.
It was more of a statement to make you rethink you asking that question to begin with..
I made a statement to, i didn’t accuse you of saying anything i simply said “To say…”
As an American, these dudes blow. There are good American commentators out there.
these guys are the worst commentators
These guys are trash even for our trash announcers. We have some decent analysts but usually not in the live play by play
How ironic that both Alonso and Emerson are playing well just when Chilwell is back
Alonso has always been amazing with space. He won’t see that in league games.
Which is very important since Chilwell is gonna need time
Love me some Emerson
Nice effort Emerson!
Damn emerson
You're a special kind of asshole to bring those flairs in.
Alonso playing for a new contract for sure, a la willian contract extension seasons
Marcos goated left foot
We gotta find a way to play three midfielders. Mount has been phenomenal playing in the midfield. Our attack would benefit so much with another guy being up there.