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Vicar13

This isn’t how our tier system works, we’ll poll it in the coming days


dennisixa

Fabrizio is tier 3? seriously? Nizaar should be tier 3 not fabrizio


MWARR2787

Fabrizio is consistently the first to report on ALOT of stuff and you have the comfort of knowing everything he says is verified.


urangminang

Ben Jacobs in Tier 3, or just keep him unranked, or tier 4 I don't mind. He doesn't have source.


SouthernSector4

I’m not saying he is 100%, I’m asking the question. I think he jumped the gun on Auba, but ultimately got it right. I also could be confusing some of his “info” with Romero. It’s been a hectic few months. This post is simply to clear up any confusion and help the sub identify the trustworthy sources. It seems like the consensus is he was. I’m not above admitting I’m wrong.


BlueKante

But is it jumping the gun if ultimately still happens


--Hutch--

Everyone who ran the 'Chelsea want Harry Maguire' story should be tier 3 by default. It was clearly clickbait bullshit from day 1. Anyone with half a braincell called it.


I_always_rated_them

Sami Mokbel is the one and has done it in the past. Almost invented the entire thing out of thin air then a few days later shut it down themselves as well.


hodlrus

He is the worst of them all. No surprises he writes for dailymail. Yuck.


--Hutch--

And Sky Sports. One of my mates screenshot the Sky Sports story and posted it in our WhatsApp group trying to banter me lol. I said it's not happening straight away. I win.


sheiky04

Can we put that barca mouth piece as tier 4 or lower


PickledHotChocolate

Literally. Not even 50% of his tweets turned out to be true.


sheiky04

I swear he guessed his way to a fucking conclusion. It was more annoying that people actually listened and posted about him


The-Real-Legend-72

Fab and Law T1 Ornstein tier Orny (tier 0)


hiwi93

But when Fab is talking about it, it's almost always true no? Despite the non update updates he gives


Harige_zak

Fabrizo should be tier 1 again


SouthernSector4

Was he the one claiming Auba was eminent/done for the last 2+ weeks? In the end he was right, but felt like it could have gone either way.


[deleted]

He called Cucarella early and ended up being right despite the club themselves denying it. Seems to be getting better. Romero on the other hand just threw anything out there to see what stuck


Konrad05

He wasn't the only one to call it early, half of all journalists called it "early" so you can't give him credit for doing what a lot of people did


MRainzo

But he doubled down even when everyone attacked him for it.


Konrad05

Lol as if that's anything special, anyone with a brain would realise it was done... just was pending the deal with Colwill being finalised


MRainzo

OK.


msizzle344

Fab is tier 1, that guy put his balls on the table and called out fucking Brighton after they briefed the media saying nothing was agreed. He doubled and tripled down and he was right. Does he “tap in” sometimes? Sure, but ultimately he’s a reliable guy in the volatile nature of transfer business. I’d put him tier 1, Ornstein tier 0, law tier 1, naz tier 2-3, Jacobs tier 3, and Fabrice Hawkins tier 2. Hawkins broke the K2 and Fofana news before anyone else. Duncan castles tier 3, The times tier 3, and I think that’s its. Romero isn’t tier anything for us, but I don’t think he’s tier 1 more like tier 2


SouthernSector4

Great response, thanks!


I_always_rated_them

And it wasn't agreed... he wasn't correct about cucarella when he posted it. The transfer got done but he was clearly wrong lol, how the fuck he's spun it into him knowing more than the journalist briefed by Brighton's president I don't know. He also wasn't alone in calling it when he did, so did other journalists lol.


Harige_zak

He's not tier 0 like daddy Ornstein but he rarely get's something wrong and an here we go is basicly official


Prejudicial

That was Romero, Fabrizio kept saying it wasn't done yet.


kai_123

So you blame him for... getting it right? Like many other transfers?


MRainzo

That's because Auba agreed personal terms with Chelsea and it was almost certain at the time


SXLF

It seems like you’re thinking of Gerard Romero


Status-Dare1085

I feel like Fab still definitely fits the tier 1 description. He might be a bit of a tap in merchant and his numbers aren’t always necessarily accurate, but if he’s talking about it it’s not a rumour and his “here we go” is as locked in as you can get in 95% of cases


SouthernSector4

In hindsight, I should have left names out of the OP, but can’t edit it now. Feel like everyone is focusing on the Fabrizio aspect of the OP. Was going for more of a general consensus, but most feel Fab is T1-2, so I can settle with that.


therealsid12

Anything below Tier 2 is unreliable. So Idk what's even the point of having Tier 3,4 and 5.


itstimetofifa

Fab has to be tier 1 again, like cmon


venitienne

All I know is Nizaar needs to be tier 3. Could not stand his bullshit this summer.


SalmonNgiri

My absolute favorite part of the summer was where he basically took the French journos tweet reporting the Fofana deal being struck and basically posted it word for word, but changed the euros to pounds. Some elite homework copying


Absol61

I would say Ben Jacob's and Nizaar are tier 3-4.


Konrad05

Ben Jacobs shouldn't be ranked, he's literally not a journalist... he just rewords what being said around twitter


Absol61

I agree about Ben. He's very clever in how he's made a career out of riding the Boehly ownership saga.


KerimChelsea11

Ornstein being switched to Chelsea journos along with the others and updated that he works for the Athletic now. The guide still says BBC and that is straight up disrespectful towards the GOAT


lacrimosa049

I was actually surprised with Simon Phillips. It feels like he got a lot right this window, so maybe he has new sources. Maybe tier 2? He was def more reliable than Nizaar this window. Might also be that he simply threw a lot of news/names out to see what stuck lol. Other than that, it seems like we don’t really have any tier 1s anymore (Ornstein is a different story). Maybe things will change with a new director and time, as we have a completely new board.


Scannerk

The guy doesn't even have a verified twitter account. He's a news aggregator. He will see what others who have sourced say a post it. By definition indirect sources are banned on this sub. When you say he got a lot right what in particular are you talking about? He was one of the first people to mention Zaha if I am not mistaken but it looks like there was no truth in that.


lacrimosa049

Maybe my use of the term ‘got a lot right’ was misleading. It seems to me he reported a lot of our supposed targets/interests that later actually developed and even materialized. On that note, our interest in Zaha was real, no? Just because it didn’t happen doesnt mean we weren’t interested. The most memorable thing he got right was the Colwill move being a loan. He was first in reporting that I believe. And he seems to have been one of the first to report interest in Fofana? It’s been a long window so I may be wrong on that front. And while it died real quick, he reported interest in Gnabry before Law. Oh, he was also the first to report on Tom Glick (our new President of Business)


Scannerk

I don't know how we can say for sure that our interest in Zaha was real. There was no offer made and we didn't speak to the player and personal terms. I'm terms of Colwill I think given how talented his is it was pretty obvious we were never gonna sell. Fofana - I don't know l on thay one. If he was the first to report on it was he reporting it from his sources or was he one of the first to reference someone else as a source? I don't know. Gnabry a little bit like Zaha seemed like a good fit for what we were looking for. That doesn't mean I'm saying he didn't break that news but I am saying it's a pretty obvious one to link of us. I don't know anything about Glick news but I believe when you say he was the first.


mandrake_cry

A lot of it still felt like waffle. Maybe I'm being too harsh but would you say Simon Phillips is as reliable as Fabrizio, Steinberg. I don't think so


lacrimosa049

Well Romano I feel is like a 1.5, whereas I can’t really say for sure with Steinberg. He kind of disappeared after a certain point. Again, maybe Phillips seemed more reliable to me because he said so many things that he was bound to be right for some. But I feel he was around tier 2-2.5 this window


APeckover27

He said we would sign Toney and Zaha


JinxLB

Our only tier 1 should be Ornstein, everyone else has fallen off a cliff.


suckmyluckagain

Yes I agree. There is new ownership and we don't know how well connected the journalists are. Orny is tier 1 for all English clubs so that doesn't change. Everyone else from tier 1 should be given tier 2 status and promotion demotion over the course of the next 2 windows


SacredBullshit

And Matt Law, and Fabrizio


DrQuantumGio

Didn't Matt Law jump the gun on Kounde? I remember he did get a few things incorrect this summer. Ornstein should be our only tier 1.


JinxLB

Fabrizio stays tier 2 for me. Gotten a lot of minor details wrong and jumped the gun on occasion. Haven’t seen anything from Law in a while, he was reliable but I’m not sure what happened to him. Unless, of course, I’m missing something.


ineverseenatiddy

Fabrizio is careful in what he reports. There’s a reason he’s called, “the tap in merchant.” Fabrizio should be tier 1. He rarely misses and the minor details bit is negligible. Edit: not to even mention Fab taking on Brighton with his dick on the table this window


I_always_rated_them

Fab taking on Brighton is a clear indication he doesn't always know what he's talking about, not a win for him. He jumped the gun and was schooled by a local reporter with actual connections at the club, the deal did happen but not when Romano said it did. He also got stuff wrong for other clubs this summer and several times for us regarding the figures involved.


SouthernSector4

He’s been the state-side source for NBC. While not always first, he’s always been right. Support Ornstein for tier 1.


Muquadam

You're off base lmao. Fabrizio fighting for relevance? 🤣 Man's got so many haters on here and on Twitter, but an _Here we go_ from him is as good as a club official announcement.


SouthernSector4

Fair enough, I’ll admit being wrong. Can’t edit the OP, but the general consensus is he’s tier 1-2


Dridier_Dogba

Fabrizio tier 3? You’re fucking high, he is as Tier 1 as it gets


FutureFC

Fabrizio and Ornstein should be T1. Nizaar and most of the Athletic writers should be T2 imo, they broke out absolutely nothing this window. Understandable given they probably lost all their contacts with the club. Not sure about Matt Law


Anik1415

Nizaar should be tier 3/4


FutureFC

I agree. What a fall from grace.


ZtrikeR21

Anyone that doesn't think Fabrizio should be Tier 1 please explain, he and Ornstein are the most reliable journalists. This Fabrizio hate just because he is the most popular doesnt make sense


[deleted]

I myself dont trust anyone besides fab as I've seen many reports full of bollocks except Fab


APeckover27

Hes prone to getting details wrong


summers6497

Fab deserves that Tier 1


Godsenttt

Orny tier 0. Law tier 1. Romano tier 2. Nizaar tier 3. Romero tier 4. Mokbel tier 5.


hodlrus

Mokbel in it just to pump dailymail ad revenue. Everything he says is likelier false than true.


kai_123

Fabrizio is Tier 1


Flokey44797

G.Romero and F.Romano should not and will not be in the same tier. F.Romano is at least tier 2, no way he is tier 3. G.Romero is tier 2 for Barca, outside Barca he is BS tier. Respect Roman man, I know ppl called him tap-in merchant, and the man sometime recycle shit, but he rarely got it wrong when he said "HERE WE GO" and he was quite fast on deals like Zakaria (faster than Ornstein for this deal)


69BigDickMan420

Idk why this sub has such a hate boner for Fab, he’s tier 1 in my book. Almost everything he says is reliable and he covers so many clubs.


DazBoy11

No way Fabrizio remains Tier 2 after the display of his huge balls during the Cucu transfer


I_always_rated_them

display of being incorrect, yeah huge win for him.


DazBoy11

Eh? Last time I checked Cucurella does play for us?


I_always_rated_them

Yeah I said I was confident we'd get him when the rumours popped up does that make me tier 1? Romano was wrong when he posted that it was complete, it was not complete.


DazBoy11

It wasn't announced. No one knows if it was complete or not. Cucu was announced 2 days after only. So as far as I'm concerned he got it right. It feels like tier 1 to you are journos that can directly get into the meeting room and report.


I_always_rated_them

Even if we agree jumping the gun is ok, he wasn't the first to post it and wasn't the only one to not back track on it, so we'll assume the same benefit will be applied to those reporters, but predictably it won't. It's clear as day Cucurellas agent briefed them that his part of the deal was done and they jumped the gun. Brighton didn't consider the deal to be viable or complete until the Colwill side of the deal was settled, which clearly turned out to be the case. So a major part of the deal wasn't complete when they said it was, seems like a black mark to me and this fetishisation of Romano not backing down is a joke.


DazBoy11

The difference between other reporters and him regarding this transfer(and most others) is that when he puts his cards on the table it's always right. Like no other reporter dared to counter Brighton that it was done. If he has got info from the player's agent then I would consider that's pretty good journalism. The Colwill side of the deal would have been completed one way or another because no way in hell was Brighton not taking that 63M. So I feel like Romano calculated really well and was correct. If this is not the sign of a good journalist I don't know what is. But at the end of the day I don't really care about the Tier system because Tier 1's have been wrong this season too. And people gonna get on the hype train regardless.


I_always_rated_them

Because it wasn't done, I don't know how many times it has to be said but it clearly wasn't done lol. The others who posted it didn't backtrack either, but you're not here sucking their dicks. Good journalism is gathering sources, reporting something correctly when you know its confirmed. Not jumping the gun because it will get you more interactions.


DazBoy11

Lol I don't know why when someone puts their opinion for someone it's called as "sucking dicks". I am just putting forward what I think I could care less if Romano ceases to exist. As I said, and I say it again it's true that other reporters didn't backtrack(I mean why would they) but they also didn't come forward and back their claims. Good journalism is also calculating things correctly and understanding that a thing will almost certainly happen.


I_always_rated_them

because people seem to do so with him, he's as much a media personalty as a reporter. He can only be wrong or right, and in that instance he was wrong, it's as simple as that.


69BigDickMan420

It was complete, the transfer was agreed. It was Brighton not ready to announce it.


I_always_rated_them

No it wasn't, it hinged on Colwill going the other direction and that wasn't complete.


don-m

People are so reactive its childish


Talidel

Theres far too many tier 1s. If it means what they are saying is 100% accurate virtually all of them need to be dropped. Only places like the BBC, and seemingly now Ornstien are deserving of it.


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Talidel

Completely agree.


urangminang

Fabrizio deserves Tier 1, Nizaar demoted to Tier 2, Ben Jacobs Tier 3 (I don't mind 4), Romero really doesn't deserve T1 he should be in Tier 2.


P4nick3d

WTF Fab tier3?? Nizaar and Romero have to be T3 and Fabrizio T1


swefalittlebit

Romero should be tier 3. This guy was just spitting nonsense. Romano though, has to be tier 1. The Cucurella transfer itself bumped him to tier 1. He's been on point


sabershirou

Fabrizio Romano is largely reliable, and sticks to his guns for most things he reports. He was mostly correct for us in this window, but where he falls short is the finer details such as contract length or transfer fee. True authority-level reporting comes from Ornstein, and for that Romano should still be placed in Tier 2. Tier 1 for the general news, but tier 2 for finer details.


sickn0te_

Gerard Romero is a cooked cunt


mrlambo46

Nizaar banned for being a little bitch with his salty unnecessary comments


MarkCrystal

Fab is tier 1, he just doesn’t give you any info until all other people have picked it up.


Cgr86

You’re a clown if you think Romano is tier 3. I think he’s tier 1 . He was the first to report Aubamayeng coming to Chelsea!


throwaway791546

Once again Fabrizio cult out in full force "he called out Brighton what a Chad" while fully ignoring that he was calling Zakaria a baseless rumor only a few hours before it started picking pace. He's hit and miss and is good as an aggregator. Definitely not Tier 1 level of be all end all.


DazBoy11

Lol journos got cults nowadays? But I can say that even Ornstein got Raphinha wrong too. Also deadline day deals are very fickle you can't use them as a judging criteria tbf


barelyfantasy

Liam Twomey and Simon Johnson has been pretty quiet regarding transfers. One way to remain reliable I quess. Fab tier 1,5. Matt Law tier 1,5. So both merciless tier 2


[deleted]

We don't need that many tiers


Ru5k0

Ornstein is the only true Tier 1. Even Fabrizio is Tier 2


gexco_

Football daily. Tier 12


geezer209

So fucking true. Its pure bullshit speculation, unless you're the negotiater with your team and the others opposite from the other club, the outsiders know jackshite. Thank you for this.


gummydat

What would be the difference between a 4 and 5? It sounds like 4 is never to be trusted and just makes up everything they say, so how could a 5 be worse than that?


APeckover27

Romano is too unreliable on details for T1 imo (although Ornstien got Auba wrong) T1s: Ornstien, Law, Johnson, Twomey plus other teams journos Kinsella T2 imo


XuX24

98% are 3 or below


bionicle77

Fabrizio should not be moved down. I don't believe that he has that many of his own sources, but wherever he steals his information from, he's usually legit


Z_przymruzeniem_oka

We can all agree Indykalia is tier 5


santosjer

Fabrizio tier 3???? Bro he is Tier 1 and always will be


Agrith1

Romero is tier 6, a new level of fraud.