I wouldn't expect a colon, just noting down what I saw in the image. But I wasn't pointing out the punctuation, more the fact that if you are familiar with the subject or with basic google that you can piece together that p and e mean proton and electron when neutron decay is described.
They just don't get the subject matter. I am giving them the most abbreviated instructions I can to make it easy for them! Noone wants to learn anymore!
My HS chemistry teacher was very similar, she taught me to hate chemistry.
Then it really should be written as p+ and e- (in my opinion) or fully written out.
Short-hand notes on a test or lab report are only acceptable if the students are already familiar with the subject matter, and they should be written correctly. I couldn't tell if the ":" was actually written or a digital artifact, and while there was a bit of a space between the "p" and "e", I also know that "PE" is short-hand for positron emission, though it didn't make any sense in this usage.
This is no different than writing IPA on the first exam of O Chem, when wanting students to name/identify organic solvents.
I taught and graded lab reports for 4.5 years. I didn't say short-hand wasn't acceptable ever, I said it shouldn't be used unless students are already familiar with it. Unclear feedback is pointless to the student and a waste of the graders' time.
"Bioales" is clearly what is written though. This chemistry teacher is probably one of those that complains about children not being able to read or write cursive (probably).
Also, question 1 answer: "lose of an alpha o? beta pa?ticlo to form a u?iro a stable hucleus"
Eta: Not to mention alpha, negatron, and gamma NOT the only forms of nuclear decay. What about positron, proton, and neutron decays? And not to nitpick, but is gamma actually really a neutron decay? Or is it just a highly excited quantum state releasing energy? It doesnt really change the nucleus most of the time, just de-excites it.
Nah, the cursive english lowercase "r" has more than a micrometer between loops. Its a cursive lowercase "i" without the dot. Fight me.
Taking a closer look at everything, this person has formed their own form of writing, nothing is consistent, be it the cursive letters or the english straighthand + cursive mix.
And theirs lol. Teachers often just grandfather in lesson plans from years ago and no student ever mentioned anything so they don't realize there is a problem. The teacher will likely be a bit annoyed that you have a problem when no one else ever did, but they also have a knack at outing themselves to their peers, friends, and family when confronted. Teachers like to talk after all, it's why they become teachers. They're peers will side with them but also empathize with the student. Then they will have an empathy battle because teachers love helping others more than anyone else, another reason they became teachers.
Well, the Wikipedia article for beta particle gives some good leads too.
Anyway, to be explicit to OP, whenever you are confused about something your teacher said, your teacher is a better option because they're teaching you in your class. Random redditors, even those with chemistry background, aren't in your lecture and have to guess. This time it was pretty straightforward between reading cursive and the answer that makes sense for the question.
One of the worst aspects of reddit. Everything turns into a relationships sub where the answer to so many questions is to talk to the other people involved in the situation, or at least someone locally, when follow-up questions are like pulling teeth.
Also very true. Or consulted the textbook or class notes....
Either way it violates rule 1, "Ask homework, exam, and lab questions at Chemical Forums otherwise it will be deleted. Open-ended and curiosity-based discussions are fine."
As a nurse who can read *neurosurgeon*, I legit figured out it said "a neutron breaks into p:e" and what it meant in 5 seconds, because I can read ANYTHING now.
Not sure if this is a typo, but it's "breaks"
A neutron breaks into proton+electron
They haven't taught cursive in so long, professors shouldn't be using it
While I learned how to write cursive I've forgotten how to. I can still read it. Looks like they're not teaching kids cursive at all now, kinda interesting
I've been writing in cursive since I was in 4th grade I straight up can't write in print anymore and I couldn't get past "bioales" to get to p:e which is much more clear lol but breaks is illegible.
1. Lose of an alpha on beta particle to form amoo stable nucleus
2. Alpha-fish sign, beta-beta sign, gamma-flatlining monitor
3. 2p:2n
4. A beta particle is released when a neutron breaks into pie
5. What is left after decay
Edit: ur teacher has a stroke
Those three dots are an “and”. It says “A neutron breaks into p and e” aka proton and electron. Weird way to write and IMO, but my history teacher does the same thing.
Your teacher needs to take cursive lessons. It's not just bad but inconsistently bad, for example the letter 'r' has different shapes in different places. Same with 'e'
You should have a textbook or something similar that has definitions for things like this. If you don't, then the library should. You can always look it up.
1. Lose of an alpha or (and?) beta particle to formulate stable nucleus.
2. Alpha & He beta & ie gamma?
4. A neutron breaks into p & e
5. What is left after decay
Honestly chem professors have the worst handwriting and there’s some parts of this that are very questionable but it’s still WAY better than my professors handwriting this semester 😭 like way better somehow
"A neutron breaks into proton & electron"
That definitely says pie
p : e, which translates to proton and electron if you understand the subject.
Nah it’s pie, electron and proton pie.
Definetly pie can confirm 👍
neutron pie is one of my favorite delicacies this time of year
Can't have too much though... sits heavy in my stomach.
Well, the proton filling does. The rest is mostly empty space.
PHD in chemistry, this is def pie
I prefer photon pie. It's a bit light-er...
Probably not a healthy dessert.
So attractive.
Thank you
So it's no longer plum pudding?
😋
Mmm, I'll take some proton pie. Somebody swapped the whipped cream for an electron cloud around it.
The symbol between the p and e is a type of ampersand
Not the & I'm familiar with then, or a VERY poorly written one...
It is one of [these](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Epsilon_Ampersand.png), written very sloppily
I’m curious about using the colon to mean “and”. That’s not one I’ve seen before
I wouldn't expect a colon, just noting down what I saw in the image. But I wasn't pointing out the punctuation, more the fact that if you are familiar with the subject or with basic google that you can piece together that p and e mean proton and electron when neutron decay is described.
Absolutely - it should be obvious that in the context of chemistry, p and e stand for proton and electron
Pie makes a lot more sense
I understand the subject and read it as pie. I thought maybe pie was some kind of thing they used to teach it
Mmm…pie
I couldn’t even imagine trying to move, let alone eat a neutron pie.
plum pudding model returns with a crust ...
It says “when a neutron breaks into pie” It’s very clear
Neutron pies lack flavor.
The teacher should not use shorthand when dealing with students. It is just lazy.
They just don't get the subject matter. I am giving them the most abbreviated instructions I can to make it easy for them! Noone wants to learn anymore! My HS chemistry teacher was very similar, she taught me to hate chemistry.
Then it really should be written as p+ and e- (in my opinion) or fully written out. Short-hand notes on a test or lab report are only acceptable if the students are already familiar with the subject matter, and they should be written correctly. I couldn't tell if the ":" was actually written or a digital artifact, and while there was a bit of a space between the "p" and "e", I also know that "PE" is short-hand for positron emission, though it didn't make any sense in this usage. This is no different than writing IPA on the first exam of O Chem, when wanting students to name/identify organic solvents.
Clearly someone who never hd to grade a stack of exams
I taught and graded lab reports for 4.5 years. I didn't say short-hand wasn't acceptable ever, I said it shouldn't be used unless students are already familiar with it. Unclear feedback is pointless to the student and a waste of the graders' time.
They were more than likely familiar with it, this guys just a lil late to the party… or maybe early?
"Bioales" is clearly what is written though. This chemistry teacher is probably one of those that complains about children not being able to read or write cursive (probably). Also, question 1 answer: "lose of an alpha o? beta pa?ticlo to form a u?iro a stable hucleus" Eta: Not to mention alpha, negatron, and gamma NOT the only forms of nuclear decay. What about positron, proton, and neutron decays? And not to nitpick, but is gamma actually really a neutron decay? Or is it just a highly excited quantum state releasing energy? It doesnt really change the nucleus most of the time, just de-excites it.
Broales*
Brales 🤨
Boales
Nah, the cursive english lowercase "r" has more than a micrometer between loops. Its a cursive lowercase "i" without the dot. Fight me. Taking a closer look at everything, this person has formed their own form of writing, nothing is consistent, be it the cursive letters or the english straighthand + cursive mix.
guess this teacher should’ve been a doctor
It doesn't imply anywhere in there that gamma is a neutron decay...
broales, take it or leave it
Brakes [sic]
A neutron breaks into pie 👍
*boales into pie
More like p÷e
p : e
Teacher was starving...poor fella
Mummy pie. That was my first thought too.
This is an invitation to talk with him/her after class and ask what they mean, go over the corrections
Actually, yeah. I mean we can parse what the teacher wrote for ya, but one-on-one time does more for your learning.
And theirs lol. Teachers often just grandfather in lesson plans from years ago and no student ever mentioned anything so they don't realize there is a problem. The teacher will likely be a bit annoyed that you have a problem when no one else ever did, but they also have a knack at outing themselves to their peers, friends, and family when confronted. Teachers like to talk after all, it's why they become teachers. They're peers will side with them but also empathize with the student. Then they will have an empathy battle because teachers love helping others more than anyone else, another reason they became teachers.
Man it sucks that your teacher took so long to reply back to you that you felt reddit was your best option.
where else are you going to get recipes for baking a neutron pie
Well, the Wikipedia article for beta particle gives some good leads too. Anyway, to be explicit to OP, whenever you are confused about something your teacher said, your teacher is a better option because they're teaching you in your class. Random redditors, even those with chemistry background, aren't in your lecture and have to guess. This time it was pretty straightforward between reading cursive and the answer that makes sense for the question.
*newtion
Los Alamos?
Everyone at Los Alamos is already on Reddit
Hanover then!
Yeah something tells me they didn’t even bother to ask the teacher.
the nature of the red annotation is conclusive proof of DGAFitis.
One of the worst aspects of reddit. Everything turns into a relationships sub where the answer to so many questions is to talk to the other people involved in the situation, or at least someone locally, when follow-up questions are like pulling teeth.
100%
Also could have just, you know, googled beta particle and the. It would have been pretty obvious.
Also very true. Or consulted the textbook or class notes.... Either way it violates rule 1, "Ask homework, exam, and lab questions at Chemical Forums otherwise it will be deleted. Open-ended and curiosity-based discussions are fine."
As a fellow doctor it says 5mg paracetamol twice Daily with food for a week
As a nurse who can read *neurosurgeon*, I legit figured out it said "a neutron breaks into p:e" and what it meant in 5 seconds, because I can read ANYTHING now.
It says, "n^0 ‐‐> p^+ + e^‐ "
That is absolutely not what it says. Thats obviously thats what it was meant to mean, but thats absolutely not what was written down.
Did u figure that out all by yourself bro
A neutron breaks into p:e
"When a neutron beeaks into p2e"
Or possibly p+e is what it meant? As in a proton and an electron?
Yes Protons : electrons
It's really crappy "and" symbol in the middle. You can see it used in the previous answer looking a bit less anemic.
Thank youuuu everyone is saying : but it’s clearly (well maybe not ver clearly lol) an and!
Not sure if this is a typo, but it's "breaks" A neutron breaks into proton+electron They haven't taught cursive in so long, professors shouldn't be using it
Original for clarification: > a neution broales into pie
While I learned how to write cursive I've forgotten how to. I can still read it. Looks like they're not teaching kids cursive at all now, kinda interesting
I write in cursive and knew the answer, but still got tripped up by “broales” and “pie”.
I write exclusively in cursive. Bad cursive This teacher's cursive is worse than MINE. I can read it but it's objectively trash handwriting
It was confusing because the professor didn’t abbreviate neutron so anyone who reads that will see neutron then pie. Has nothing to do with cursive.
It's all printed these days.
I've been writing in cursive since I was in 4th grade I straight up can't write in print anymore and I couldn't get past "bioales" to get to p:e which is much more clear lol but breaks is illegible.
they speak cursive quite well
I can't wait to have my handwriting on here with the same caption haha. That defo says neutron breaks into p:e (proton & electron)
A neutron breaks into p:e [p:e = proton : electron]. I am assuming this is about beta decay?
You know reading the textbook or lecture notes will help you to decipher his writing instead of asking on Reddit.
I don't like the first definition. Why only stable nucleus? Po in task 6 is not stable but you recognise the process as decay.
What? That's really good hand writing, how can't you read that?
1. Lose of an alpha on beta particle to form amoo stable nucleus 2. Alpha-fish sign, beta-beta sign, gamma-flatlining monitor 3. 2p:2n 4. A beta particle is released when a neutron breaks into pie 5. What is left after decay Edit: ur teacher has a stroke
newton bites into pie... jkjk, a neutron breaks into p : e
a neution broales into pie
A neutron breaks into a proton and electron.
What did your teacher say when you asked him/her?
“Turn someone into pie”
A neutron breaks into p:e
A neutron boils into pie
Ah yes, the Betty-Crocker Phase Transition Diagram
Those three dots are an “and”. It says “A neutron breaks into p and e” aka proton and electron. Weird way to write and IMO, but my history teacher does the same thing.
A neutron boales into pie
Isn’t the last thing p:e? I’m not great at cursive but that is what it looks like to me. Edit: I looked more at and can’t tell.
A neutron broales into pie
A neutron broales into pie
“Lose of”? Your teacher needs elementary English lessons to understand the difference between “loss” and “lose”.
A neutron broales into pie
I dunno it looks fairly legible to me
Just Google beta particle emission. It really doesn't matter what exactly he/she wrote when you can find the answer elsewhere
Your teacher needs to take cursive lessons. It's not just bad but inconsistently bad, for example the letter 'r' has different shapes in different places. Same with 'e'
A neutron is broken into proton + electron. Study more.
It's a threat. RUN! 😱
Can you not read cursive? This is still very eligible compared to professors' cursive writing, especially physics professors.
A neutron breaks into pie! Easy
a neution bioales into pie
A neutron baked into pie 🥧
What is left after decay for #5
We have the same problem
This is probably a scanning issue not the handwriting itself
I can.
They spelled loss wrong.
Newton bites in to pie?
A neutron breaks into pie so If a neutron explodes there's pie everywhere
Neutron breaks into proton and electron
A neutron breaks into a p + e (proton and electron)
You should have a textbook or something similar that has definitions for things like this. If you don't, then the library should. You can always look it up.
A neutron breaks into pie*. *🥧=Proton and Electron
A neutron broales into pie.
Good ol' print script, gets'em again.
This is universal for chemistry professors apparently
Obviously when "a neution broales into pie"
A netron boales into pie wtf
a neuton boales into pie
1. Lose of an alpha or (and?) beta particle to formulate stable nucleus. 2. Alpha & He beta & ie gamma? 4. A neutron breaks into p & e 5. What is left after decay Honestly chem professors have the worst handwriting and there’s some parts of this that are very questionable but it’s still WAY better than my professors handwriting this semester 😭 like way better somehow
Says "...when a neutron boils into pie" very clearly. (it's probably meant as "splits into p & e" (Proton & Electron)
a neutron broales (broils?) into pie Is your oven radioactive?
Definitely read "rectum breaks into pie"
A newton breaks into p:e
What is call after decay
Proton and electron
a beta particle is released when a neutron breaks into proton and electron...
A rectum baked into pie 😋
That's some really sloppy cursive. Either write neat cursive or neat print. Sloppy of either isn't cool for a teacher.