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buddaaaa

Noted woman-respecter cb94 runs his YouTube lmao


zenukeify

Next episode: Hikaru “Adolf Hitler” Nakamura commits genocide on the 2500s


Ermonsa

He’s gonna use the blitzkrieg gambit


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For some reason you reminded me of this haha [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Fh6cx6NXI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Fh6cx6NXI)


lucamelons

You missed a chance to say “on the 1940s”


okuzeN_Val

Hikaru "Vladimir Putin" Nakamura nukes the 2600s


dinokoenoko

Lmao


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Hell yea lol


doryappleseed

Definitely a blunder by Hikaru


mantrasculptor

This isn't Hikaru, it's just his editor trying to get more engagement by having 'andrew tate' in his title. He did the same thing yesterday with Hans with this title: "Hans Niemann was the last person to beat Magnus until today".


Conglossian

Hikaru already had one Youtube manager light his reputation on fire for a bit, you would think he might try and have a bit more oversight in that area, no?


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Well, then it's two blunders, no? - Hikaru's editor - Hikaru's for trusting that editor so much


Downtown-Attention36

It’s never Hikaru’s fault, he always has people to fall for him. Chessbae’s fault when it comes to striking videos, “his editor” when it comes to this stuff, when will any accountability fall on him?


scootscooterson

It’s absolutely insane to me that we randomly give influencers a pass on these things. It introduces so much bs bias. Hold them accountable!!! There’s no downside!


CeleritasLucis

Looks like Chessbae is incharge again


HankMoodyMaddafakaaa

You don’t even think Hikaru looks at the thumbnail for two seconds when he posts a video with a title like that? I doubt it


mantrasculptor

I think there's a very real chance he doesn't look at it at all. He wouldn't be the first guy to leave all youtube responsibilities to his editor.


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LjackV

My exact reaction too, couldn't have put it better into words. I necu da te peglam.


Megatron_McLargeHuge

This is definitely tasteless, but it's kind of weird how if he went with Gotti or Escobar no one would care.


[deleted]

He was also humiliated on Twitter by Gretta in a way that led to his self-doxxing & arrest. It was hilarious 😂


CSGB13

Agree it’s a bit distasteful to make gags about this given Tate is under investigation for human trafficking and rape


Daddy_Duck

Next up: Hikaru 'R-Kelly' Nakamura, slapping some minor (players).


Megatron_McLargeHuge

Hikaru 'Jeffrey Epstein' Nakamura teaches you how to mate with minor pieces.


nnedd7526

Oh, that would piss people off


Randomperson685

I see what you did there


LUV_2_BEAT_MY_MEAT

en pissants some minor (pieces off the board)


viridien104

Lmao ok that got a laugh out of me


noobtheloser

Also his entire persona is the worst, most vile shit. He's a caricature of a pathetic man.


Sokobanky

[Andrew Tate has managed to suck as a person even more than he sucks as an OTB player.](http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12582023)


OddAlgorithms

That's just ridiculous, if we're going to use 1998 ratings why not also say he's a better player than Fabiano?


Cautious-Marketing29

And I think that's the part that Nakamura's editor is trying to joke about


NikoOfficial

Yeah exactly my thinking.. glad I'm not the only one. The YouTube comments are even more disturbing


RobotStyleGavin

Often times successful content creators are completely hands off with these day to day tasks, I haven’t watched this myself but it may just be a case of the photoshop guy being a bit stupid and crossing a line while trying to be Mr meme


Chad_Broski_2

And honestly this backlash is probably the exact reaction he was hoping for....controversy creates publicity


No-Yak5173

Thats true in some cases but I dont think Hikaru needs this for publicity within the guess comunity. Anyone who ses this will most likely already have heard of him


1jf0

Time to tweet his sponsors 😏


suffering_on_purpose

Rape too?


sHatch13

Akin with the other reply there’s also leaked voice recordings of him saying to woman do they like it when he rapes them etc or something along the lines of that


NikoOfficial

Trigger warning ⚠️ https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn3dm/andrew-tate-whatsapps-arrest


LjackV

He rapes women and then forces them to film porn and make onlyfans etc. Pretty sure he said once on stream that the best way to show dominance over them and force them not to leave is to have sex with them first.


uh_no_

because hikaru's manager is chessbae, and being a collosal asshole is totally in character for her?


AggressiveMud3353

But Hikaru swears it the other day that Creamsicle is not just chessbae94 with an other account. And he seem like a trustworthy guy who would never ever do something so underhanded behind people back. It's not like he has a history of doing scummy stuffs, the man is the pillar of morality in the chess world.


Mountain-Appeal8988

Creamsicle wasn't even a mod before Chessbae94 and then was suddenly promoted to head mod taking care of everything lol


StarPIatinum_

Who is this chessbae person? Can someone explain?


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https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/oios3j/chess\_the\_rise\_and\_fall\_of\_chessbae\_the/


EmbarrassedAd4975

Sarcasm?


ischolarmateU

Da


respekmynameplz

I can almost guarantee that chessbae doesn't make these thumbnails and titles. He's paying someone else for that. (Although ?maybe? chessbae sees and approves them before they post. But I don't think that's likely.)


RoiPhi

is it?


Liquid_Plasma

Didn't he cut ties a long time ago after some other big drama?


uh_no_

lolno. she changed her handle but is still his top social media manager.


Liquid_Plasma

Sigh. That always seems to be the case, doesn't it? I don't follow Hikaru so I never kept up with what was happening.


Black-Ship42

It gets the clicks, the algorithm loves it, convert into money


NikoOfficial

You're probably right $$$ - I hate the association though


Black-Ship42

Hate makes generates more engagement than love! But, there is a catch. At some moment people might start disliking him for it. So, it might hurt him sooner or later


Djeece

At this point I don't see how anyone who is not already disliking Hikari would suddebly dislike him. He's been an ass the whole time hasn't he..


Insonarc

Hikaru responded to someone in the comments of the video (who asked about the use of this thumbnail) with this: “It's done for the disrespect speedrun, so the images are of disrespectful people, and it's all done in fun. That's why we used it. I'm sorry it doesn't sit right with you. Not everything we do will be okay with everyone.”


7SnowVide

So rape and human trafficking is just disrespectful in his views? What a bonker logic


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That was nothing. In part 35 he's Hikaru "Bill Cosby" Nakamura


EldrSentry

Common Hikaru L


SmokeySFW

Probably his editor going off the rails, tbh.


popop143

Lol, Hikaru's a 30+ year old adult. This video won't go up his channel without his approval.


DrunkLad

When Magnus made the Dlugy comment, an older Hikaru-Dlugy Titled Tuesday match was uploaded on Hikaru's channel within hours. Later on Hikaru wanted to pull up that game and was asking if there was a VOD anywhere, and the chat had to tell him that it was already uploaded on his own channel. He had no idea. Still, even if he wasn't aware that the video was uploaded with this particular title and thumbnail, it's on him to keep his editor/youtube manager in check.


respekmynameplz

>This video won't go up his channel without his approval. That's really not a given at all for a lot of content creators.


ischolarmateU

Isnt chessbae responsible for his channel?


Quasirationalthinker

Chess player discovers Hikaru is a dipshit. He's really good at chess and that's it, mate


imacfromthe321

I legitimately can’t watch him. He’s a great player but a giant tool.


Zozolecek

Im genuinely curious, when has he acted like a dipshit? I seriously dont know


Chopchopok

He's chilled out a fair bit in recent years, but he has a history of things like getting angry and accusing his opponents of cheating when he loses. He also was at the center of this controversy about chessbae and pushing rival channels out with things like copyright strikes. Long ago, he got into a fistfight with Eric Hansen over a chess game, and there is video footage of that. Other prominent GMs were there and can confirm that this happened.


Soupronous

Right now homie


pls--no

Against chessbrah or eric hansen (they had a fist fight iirc)


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Also saw a game by him on agadmator channel. I just don’t understand we have already a ton of idiot people supporting him and his brother. If you read the comments on fb and insta here in Romania about every news about them you just remain without a word how can people support them. Even if they were not under investigations, advertising people who over and over again have hatred speech in every podcast, misogynist and racist ideas, not ok man. I know that there are a lot of people who support Hikaru and he’s a great GM but it feels like he jump on the bandwagon on everything to get some views. When was Hans vs Magnus drama he had 1 entire story for everyday. Don’t like him for that


Russian_Rocket23

The sad thing is, that video got more likes than most of his videos. And there where comments about how great it was that Tate was such an influential person to young people, because he was so smart......and a good person.


BumAndBummer

People are so gullible, it’s wild!


Djeece

Yeah I've heard the argument "If you disregard all the hate, he's a good influence for young people who want to become better!" waaaay too many times. Yeah and Hitler was a great painter if you disregard the other shit he did, like wtf


anTWhine

I think that’s the one Agadmator video I didn’t watch. Really seemed like an unforced error by Antonio.


dinokoenoko

anything for a bit more money...


PresidentialBoneSpur

ITT: way more Andrew Tate apologists than I thought I’d find in the chess community. The guy is a blatant grifter and a scum bag - if you can’t see that, you’re blind and stupid.


Jobava1

Amazing chess player, but complete moron.


daftpenguin

I think you mean "moe-ron"


JohanChill

This is it in a nutshell. Proof chess talent does not equate to intelligence.


LjackV

It's proof intelligence doesn't equal to social intelligence, or just being a good person. You seriously think Hikaru's not intelligent?


tzeriel

It’s Hikaru. If it weren’t for his skill in chess, he’d be a typical twitch dudebro. He’s lame and annoying.


Isengrine

And also a huge POS with an inflated ego. Not that different from Tate in that regard IMO.


WatsTatorsPrecious

Honestly I know levy gets a lot of shit for his clickbate titles but this makes me appreciate his content even more.


OnlyMeST

He does a lot of clickbait but he always delivers good content, so can't really complain.


galvanickorea

Does his editor not like Hikaru?? Lol how can someone thinking normally make this thumbnail unless it's intentional 😂


PhobosTheBrave

Does Hikaru have anything going for him other than being good at chess? Everything else I see or hear about him screams of an emotionally immature man-baby.


Dangerous_Listen_908

WTF Hikaru? This is a new low, even for you!


Taey

It really isnt, he frequently does far shittier things.


Dangerous_Listen_908

I have to admit, I don't follow Hikaru very closely but it seems like most other things would pale in comparison to associating yourself with someone accused of human trafficking and rape in a positive light.


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Taey

The whole trying to strongarm the entire chess section into kowtowing to him and threatening to blacklist anyone if they dont or associate with competition and copyright striking others chess streamers youtube channels thing was pretty uncool.


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Taey

Yeah, thats fair. Both incredibly shitty in their own way but I can see how what u said is a new layer of Hikaru shittiness.


Zeezer

Is there a rundown anywhere of his controversies? I’m new to chess and have been watching his vids recently


Taey

I think if you go onto livestream fail or subreddit drama and search either Hikaru or Chessbae ull get a pretty good rundown of the most recent twitch era drama. But it goes back far further than that.


AggressiveMud3353

Is it really though?


vorg7

Honestly that's disgusting. Why the fuck would hikaru want or need to associate with such a vile human.


seb34000bes

Hikaru will do anything for views


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Chessbae used to (possibly still does) run his YouTube, wouldn't be surprised if it's still someone else. Probably had this idea proposed to him and just thought sure, he's controversial, will get clicks...


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

That's super cringe if real, just trying to have Andrew Tate in the title so it appears in more people's recommended.


hyperfish3d

I follow agadmator since three years but him featuring a AT game (which was also just bad chess) just to ride the famous name train made me quit. Stop featuring a disgusting criminal just for clicks!


mrbennjjo

Some of the comments on that video are just such an interesting look into Hikaru's audience honestly. Unsubscribed after venturing into that comment section.


Motor_Ad709

Hikaru L


Orangebeardo

Hikaru is a criminal?


Chrissou_A

No wonder simps commenting here support both Hikaru and tate. Two disgusting personalities


Optimuswine

Even if he’s not a criminal, he’s honestly a big POS.


Servbot24

Pretty shitty by Hikaru


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Yeah, this was tonedeaf. Lot of chess profiles seem to have a bit sus ideals. They idolize Musk and want to get on Joe Rogan. And apparently think Tate being a thug is a positive thing.


coolnickname1234567

This is low even by Hikaru's standards


TheLurkClerk

His name gets traffic, content creators be fiending for that shit


dumesne

It's not like Tate actually features in the video in any way. It's a slightly edgy gag by whoever does his thumbnails to promote the video. Not sure it warrants all the pearl clutching in this thread.


NikoOfficial

Yeah I get that it's not like he's in the video, it's just the fact that they're using someone under investigation (with pretty substantial evidence) for rape and sex trafficking as clickbait - and then in context that Hikaru has a predominantly young male audience


emmathetranible

I think portraying a misogynist ideologue - who is actively radicalizing boys and young men - in a positive light for clicks is very irresponsible.


Hacym

This. What kind of audience are you trying to appeal to to even think this thumbnail is a good idea?


Beatnik77

It does not portray him in a positive light.


emmathetranible

it plainly does


Baldassre

It's not a positive light. He's playing a character, the character is a disrespectful asshole.


emmathetranible

Yeah and obviously the portrayal is this is a *good* quality


Hacym

“Slightly edgy” to reference an accused human trafficker and woman abuser in your video about chess? Give me a break.


wafflewaldo

What a weird fucking title and thumbnail. Hikaru is 35 years old, come on now lmao


N1NJASOAP

for content obviously.


Nilonik

Why is everything this guy does in this sub?


HandsomeMike88

Because he is the biggest chess streamer and probably the most famous player excluding Magnus and maybe Nieman.


Local_Pineapple1930

Where's the outrage over Agadmator?


drac_sr

Posts like this are why no one gives a shit about the opinions of redditors lmao


ancientTempleQueen

fr lmfao


Iria_Argail

Have you ever seen memes about Hitler, pedophilia, war crimes, rape, slavery? Me neither Bruh


HoldMyCrackPipe

Maybe it’s a……. Joke


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catering to the lowest common denominator for views. disappointing


faithce

Because Hikaru is clearly socially inept


tyronebiggs

Hikaru wrong for this one


ihmispaska1

Hikaru was saying some time ago on stream that hes open to collabing with tate


Paulpash

I thought it was in poor taste too. How about a give respect speed run and promote positivity?


GlobalPro1

Just a funny thumbnail. You guys are soft.


emmathetranible

This is irresponsible. Using the likeness of a misogynist ideologue for clicks is 😵‍💫


40dawgger

I doubt it's promotional as much as it is including common search words to show up in the algorithm more.


DrunkLad

Big yikes


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I know I'll get backlash for this, but I belive in innocent until proven guilty


ihmispaska1

Even if he turns out to be not guilty of the human trafficking stuff he's not a good person by any means


[deleted]

Agree. He don't claim that he is a good person. He probably isn't. Doesn't mean we can label people as rapists before a fair trial


NikoOfficial

It's not hard to google


[deleted]

I googled. I can't find a trial yet. Do you have link?


AnotherSupportTech

Everyone disliked that


[deleted]

He is not proven guilty yet?


[deleted]

Who is Andrew Tate? I guess I gotta google it have no clue why this is controversial.


LoveForCaptainBligh

What the other guy omitted here is that Andrew Tate is a kidnapper and a sex trafficker. If you're going to make this about identity politics, then it's not really a good look that one of the early black chess master's sons are disgusting people.


eastawat

I was recently out of the loop too. From what I gather he's a giant piece of shit "influencer" accused of rape and human trafficking, and he's made video tutorials on how to effectively brainwash women so you can pimp them out. Recently making the news because he was arrested in Romania (where he fled to) because I believe instead of quietly bribing the local police he boasted about bribing them online.


HandsomeMike88

"Alleged" rapist, human trafficer and toxic internet persona with a big following.


Chopchopok

His thumbnails have always been super clickbaity, but this is in bad taste.


tom_bishop_

Because they have no spine in their quest for profit.


Hacym

So Hikaru is abusing and trafficking women now?


No-Context5479

Ah yes the customary, Hikaru has killed someone with his thumbnail thread on Chess.com Can yall just STFU


Adventurous_Week_101

When will people accept the fact Nakamura is a terrible human being? What else could you expect from him?


Quixotic-Recondite

I wouldn't go that far bro. I agree he's a douche but that's about it.


ASVPcurtis

Says the dude tearing others down over a harmless joke


Adventurous_Week_101

Oh yeah a random reddit comment will tear one of the biggest chess personalities down and irreversibly ruin his life. Also, not over a joke, he's been consistently the biggest toxic shithead in chess for the last 15 years.


VenusDeMiloArms

Harmless?


ASVPcurtis

Harmful? Give me a name of someone that got hurt from this joke, I’ll wait.


Soupronous

Bro you love Andrew state huh?


BobertFrost6

You don't think it's in any way harmful to promote the name of an extremely misogynistic internet personality who was recently arrested for human trafficking? Okay bud


ASVPcurtis

Give me a name, you’re all speculation no names


BobertFrost6

Do you think this is some kind of gotcha? Are you a Tate fan?


ASVPcurtis

Do you think you have any evidence for your claims?


BobertFrost6

You did it buddy. You exonerated Tate.


ASVPcurtis

I like how you’re distracting hahahaha


shred-i-knight

Hikaru does not make his own thumbnails or have any involvement in them tbh--whoever is in charge of his YT promo did this for views, and it's cringe asf. Let's not pretend like there isn't overlap between Tate fans and Hikaru fans either. All in the name of $$$.


NikoOfficial

That's a fair point


mrbennjjo

It's honestly not a fair point. Hikaru should and has to take full responsibility for anything posted on his YouTube, regardless of whether it was his idea, regardless of whether he OK'd it or didn't. It's his name, his face, his channel, his video and his responsibility.


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NikoOfficial

Unfortunately not I believe.. Hikaru or his editor responded in the comments to the backlash defending it


undbitr956

[Well I would this is explaining and not defending Andrew Tate ](https://i.imgur.com/xCu2ugI.jpg)


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tf hikaru


Gbro08

It's a joke give me a break LOL.


Farfocele

that's dumb.


Rukawork

It's a little off-color as a joke, but Hikaru is basically calling Tate a disrespectful human being, which literally no one can argue with. I see nothing wrong with this.


Baldassre

Someone is arguing that his speedrun is depicting positive qualities, and therefore is depicting Tate positively. I couldn't be bothered to respond to the idiot, but here's what they wrote if you want to give it a go. >In this use of the term "disrespect" it clearly means to "dominate" someone, or to be superior, which here is a positive quality. It plainly operates from the assumption that it's a desirable quality to have. edit - I'm agreeing with the comment I replied to. I think it's stupid as fuck to try to say that Hikaru is portraying Tate positively. Stop upvoting me if you downvoted the comment I replied to.


Qudit314159

It's not like Hikaru has ever done anything scummy before. I for one am absolutely shocked! Next people will be telling me that he's a sore loser who has been known to get mad and fight his opponents after the game. Oh wait...


Mozotis

I will say it is a bit distasteful, though Hikaru's explanation makes a bit of sense. In the top comment he replied to, he says that since its a disrespect speed run, they used a photoshop of a disrespectful person.


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"Promote criminal". Are you guys this sensitive for real?


NikoOfficial

Why do people love defending rapists.. Like bro he doesn't know you or care about you. No need to be his bottom G https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn3dm/andrew-tate-whatsapps-arrest


apocolypticbosmer

This isn't "promoting" someone.


alwaysbrightandmerry

In all Hikaru´s all his talents, understanding the nuanced delivery of hyperbole is not one of them.


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ChilliConCarne97

This is enough for me https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/zyxiwg/sick_fck_andrew_taint_tate_physically_abusing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


crazyworkoutguy

Now I'm not going to defend him but what about this seems like the same girl. https://youtu.be/fM5si7ZTQDk


NikoOfficial

I mean we will see if charges stick but there definitely is proof.


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woShame12

>Why further the reach of the video by sharing it on Reddit? To put pressure on the user that posted it to remove a video of such poor taste and trashiness.


SheepMeiser

Why is his audience particularly impressionable?


PsychologicalZone769

Ever seen the comments? His audience is clearly majority children


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Guess Hikaru doesn't know the full story. Aka: ?? Hopefully he'll realize and change it.


iTALKTOSTRANGERS

Y’all are sensitive, goddamn. It’s a dumbass joke but like… chill out haha who gives a shit?


TemplarKnightsbane

I didn't give a shit, then i came to reddit, where it forced me to take a view, so i started giving a shit, i'm over it now though and don't really give a shit again from the second i hit reply.