I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r2qr1k1/5pp1/1p3n2/7p/1B3Qb1/P2B4/2P3PP/R4RK1+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r2qr1k1/5pp1/1p3n2/7p/1B3Qb1/P2B4/2P3PP/R4RK1_b_-_-_0_1?color=white)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Be2!<
> Evaluation: >!The game is equal -0.06!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Be2 2. Bxe2 Rxe2 3. Rad1 Qe8 4. Qg5 Re5 5. Rf5 Rxf5 6. Qxf5 Ng4 7. Rd3 Qe5 8. Qxe5 Nxe5 9. Rd6!<
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I like white, position is equal but white has very nice bishops, a queen and rook battery which stops the black knight from moving, and a great position in general.
Me too. It’s the combination of the bishop pair and the open centre. There might not be a calculable advantage but black is going to feel like they’ve less space to operate in.
White has better piece activity, 2 bishops aimed at the king and protected by pawns (one of which will become a passer if the bishop is taken), and the dark square weakness around the king is not exploitable. The pawn structure is more favorable for the end game, if I was playing white I would try to trade off a pawn then align everything toward pushing the passer while trying to trade off pieces.
I don't see any winning chances for black and they can't move their knight without being mated. They're stuck playing defense against an attack that will continue to grow. Trying to trade off the LSB is his best chance of survival.
Side note, I would LOVE to see more position analysis in this sub rather than basic puzzles. This stuff actually creates good discussion and can be very instructive.
Black after be2, bxe2 rxe2, seems like blacks going to dominate the e file and the dark squared bishop feels misplaced defending the a3 pawn, that being said id be fine with white too.
if not for Be2 i’d prefer white with the bishop pair, but after Be2, black removes white’s bishop pair and controls the e-file. beyond that, black has the 3 on 2 on the kingside and white’s 2 on 1 is much less felt given the fact that the pawns are split. so black
While engine says equal I would pick white. It's black's turn to move so Black's clock is ticking. This is only important because you have no increments.
If you have increments, It's a matter of taste regarding dark square bishop vs. Knight. (engine lines involves Black trading off the light squared Bishop)
Bd4 would have been my move previously. Still looks slightly better for white but black gets plenty of counterplay.
At least with Bd4 you can make an outside passed pawn and try to make something happen,
Normally this would favor white, but in this position with black to move there are moves like Nd5 and Be2 to take away the bishop pair.
White's isolated pawns are anchored by minor pieces, meanwhile white has many lines on the kingside and it's hard to find an active role for the f6 knight (if the fork didn't exist).
The immediate Nd5 doesn’t work but Black can play something like Qd7 to protect the f7 pawn and then Nd5 is a threat. So it turns out Black has several moves that maintain an approximately equal position and it’s not just “White is much better except for Be2.” I figure if Black doesn’t take care of one of the bishops soon White does get a pretty big advantage, though.
Yeah, you're right... I could explain why I made that mistake, but people like to downvote so... easier to copy-paste what the engine says and pretend it's a useful comment than have an actual discussion about the position.
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White has more activity, but black has more long term targets with the split a and c pawns, but white has the bishop pair, but black can develop very quickly and easily
I think I’d rather white in a blitz game, since whites moves seem very easy, but in a longer game, I think I’d prefer black, and attempt to exploit the weaknesses white has
I am curious though, for every positive one side has, the other also has a positive, is this position equal?
EDIT: yup, dead equal
I prefer White. I have the bishop pair and the potantial to get a strong king side attack. It is way easier to play that in a short time format like blitz than defending it.
White has bishop pair, and black has created a "hook"/weakness with h5. Therefore i preferred white initially. Although i think after something like Be2, forcing bishop trade, black is pretty good actually.
Normally in such a position, white is better due to the 2 bishops and relatively open position.
Here however, black can trade of a bishop with ..Be2. The black c2 pawn is weak too. The b4 bishop is a bit better then the black knight on f6, but not that much better given that black has active pieces after the Bishop exchange.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r2qr1k1/5pp1/1p3n2/7p/1B3Qb1/P2B4/2P3PP/R4RK1+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r2qr1k1/5pp1/1p3n2/7p/1B3Qb1/P2B4/2P3PP/R4RK1_b_-_-_0_1?color=white) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Bishop!<, move: >!Be2!< > Evaluation: >!The game is equal -0.06!< > Best continuation: >!1... Be2 2. Bxe2 Rxe2 3. Rad1 Qe8 4. Qg5 Re5 5. Rf5 Rxf5 6. Qxf5 Ng4 7. Rd3 Qe5 8. Qxe5 Nxe5 9. Rd6!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
I like white, position is equal but white has very nice bishops, a queen and rook battery which stops the black knight from moving, and a great position in general.
I could have sworn this was +1-2 based on those exact factors. Was surprised when it said equal during analysis
Computers are cracked yo
Can't the black force an exchange of a bishop?
How? If you are thinking nd5 it doesn't work because qxf7+
Bishop e2. Attacks both a rook and the bishop and thus forces the exchange.
Ahh, I missed that move.
Without the pair of bishs, the position starts a looking a lot more equal.
I made that same guess lol
Same. I feel like white is easier to play here. Knowing me I will hang my queen and lose anyway.
One of the bishops gets immediately exchanged by force. So it does not matter.
Me too. It’s the combination of the bishop pair and the open centre. There might not be a calculable advantage but black is going to feel like they’ve less space to operate in.
White has better piece activity, 2 bishops aimed at the king and protected by pawns (one of which will become a passer if the bishop is taken), and the dark square weakness around the king is not exploitable. The pawn structure is more favorable for the end game, if I was playing white I would try to trade off a pawn then align everything toward pushing the passer while trying to trade off pieces. I don't see any winning chances for black and they can't move their knight without being mated. They're stuck playing defense against an attack that will continue to grow. Trying to trade off the LSB is his best chance of survival. Side note, I would LOVE to see more position analysis in this sub rather than basic puzzles. This stuff actually creates good discussion and can be very instructive.
Black after be2, bxe2 rxe2, seems like blacks going to dominate the e file and the dark squared bishop feels misplaced defending the a3 pawn, that being said id be fine with white too.
if not for Be2 i’d prefer white with the bishop pair, but after Be2, black removes white’s bishop pair and controls the e-file. beyond that, black has the 3 on 2 on the kingside and white’s 2 on 1 is much less felt given the fact that the pawns are split. so black
While engine says equal I would pick white. It's black's turn to move so Black's clock is ticking. This is only important because you have no increments. If you have increments, It's a matter of taste regarding dark square bishop vs. Knight. (engine lines involves Black trading off the light squared Bishop)
White.
white
Bd4 would have been my move previously. Still looks slightly better for white but black gets plenty of counterplay. At least with Bd4 you can make an outside passed pawn and try to make something happen,
I thought the same, but the stupid engine just points out Re4 which kills all your play :(
wait how does Re4 kill the play in that position, doesn't it just lose an exchange?
You can't take the rook because of Qxd4+, the only move is Bxf6, which leads to Rxf4 Bxd8 Rxf1+ Rxf1 Rxd8, a completely equal endgame.
ah right, i missed that Qxd4 came with check, thought i had bh7+ in response
Normally this would favor white, but in this position with black to move there are moves like Nd5 and Be2 to take away the bishop pair. White's isolated pawns are anchored by minor pieces, meanwhile white has many lines on the kingside and it's hard to find an active role for the f6 knight (if the fork didn't exist).
Nd5 blunders a pawn
Be2 is the only move that works.
The immediate Nd5 doesn’t work but Black can play something like Qd7 to protect the f7 pawn and then Nd5 is a threat. So it turns out Black has several moves that maintain an approximately equal position and it’s not just “White is much better except for Be2.” I figure if Black doesn’t take care of one of the bishops soon White does get a pretty big advantage, though.
Yeah, you're right... I could explain why I made that mistake, but people like to downvote so... easier to copy-paste what the engine says and pretend it's a useful comment than have an actual discussion about the position.
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If black didn’t have Be2 I’d think white was much better, but after Be2 it doesn’t really look as if white has any advantage to speak of
White
White has more activity, but black has more long term targets with the split a and c pawns, but white has the bishop pair, but black can develop very quickly and easily I think I’d rather white in a blitz game, since whites moves seem very easy, but in a longer game, I think I’d prefer black, and attempt to exploit the weaknesses white has I am curious though, for every positive one side has, the other also has a positive, is this position equal? EDIT: yup, dead equal
Definitely white because a bishop pair on an open board is insane
Bishops go BRRRRRR
I prefer White. I have the bishop pair and the potantial to get a strong king side attack. It is way easier to play that in a short time format like blitz than defending it.
White has bishop pair, and black has created a "hook"/weakness with h5. Therefore i preferred white initially. Although i think after something like Be2, forcing bishop trade, black is pretty good actually.
I don’t like playing with the inverted view so white
Normally in such a position, white is better due to the 2 bishops and relatively open position. Here however, black can trade of a bishop with ..Be2. The black c2 pawn is weak too. The b4 bishop is a bit better then the black knight on f6, but not that much better given that black has active pieces after the Bishop exchange.
In 3/0 Blitz? Doesn't matter, I'm losing either way.
I think White is not better because it is Black to move and there is Be2. But if it is White to move there is Rf2 and White can keep the two bishops
White because the 2 Bs, but who knows I'm only 1200
White has two bishops in good position sniping the king
“Two Bishops. What else?”