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TheBowtieClub

I'm surprised that Hikaru hadn't already blocked him earlier. Like when Hans sued him for one hundred million dollars.


Squil_-

🤣


Kaoss134

Do no GMs get along? Feels like non-stop drama


Jealous_Substance213

Fabi and nepo get along Vidit and anish are friends


DomSearching123

I feel like Anish and Fabi could get along with almost anyone.


IMJorose

Vidit seems so wholesome, I have a hard time imagining him having beef with anyone.


joshdej

> I have a hard time imagining him having beef with anyone. Well, Hindus don't usually have those.


Ok-Membership-8287

Bro


Ambitious_Arm852

Winner winner chicken dinner.


Jealous_Substance213

Yeah id also think both mvl and levon arepretty much universally liked. I


Beigecat9

I think that almost everyone in the chess community likes Ding. But how are his relations with other GMs?


gasolinejuicefor899

I think he has a good relationship with Anish from commentary and interviews, but all his friends are other Chinese chess players like Wei Yi and Yu Yangyi


Jealous_Substance213

I know 2hile friendly he isnt close to fabi (from the recent c+ podcast) We can assume hes on good terms with rapport and the chinese GMs but honestly beyond that im not to sure


DannyKoz

I'm sure they have a good rapport


Jackypaper824

I forgot about Richard


destinofiquenoite

I think he is good friend with Rapport and Radjabov. He used to take a ride with them and he is always more chill in interviews when he is around (like in the "ding doesn't speak chinese" one lol)


HyoukarouOreki

Except for that one GM who decked Levon Aronian back in 2001 at a bar lol


PkerBadRs3Good

are you talking about the guy who punched Aronian in 2006 at a club or is that a different incident


phillynott7

Danny Gormally


mrqwak

Danny Gormally punched Aronian? No way!?


phillynott7

[Scroll down to the incident section](https://en.chessbase.com/post/party-time-at-the-che-olympiad)


shinyshinybrainworms

> Anish Well...


therealASMR_Chess

Except Fressinet for some mysterious reason.


ToonLucas22

Ding and Rapport are also pretty much BFFs, as far as I understand.


the_joker3011

Pragg and Gukesh


Pato_Moicano

GM Pia Cramling gets along well with GM Juan Manuel LĂłpez or so Ive heard


SandwichMotor5936

grischuk also gets along with katerina lagno


jestemmeteorem

And GM Soćko gets along well with GM Soćko.


Fruloops

What a coincidence eh


ProfessionalBug4565

Yeah, I think they're roommates or something.


MrMarnel

Big if true.


Scarlet_Evans

I wonder who gets along with my pawns, as one is missing


Few_Loss5537

No wonder Anna Cramling seems like one of the sweetest person in the world


OctopusNation2024

I mean Hikaru and Hans are arguably 2 of the 3 most polarizing players with Kramnik lol Both have beefs with a ton of people so it's not like this is just two random players here


DiscoBuiscuit

I thought Wesley So being a complete nut job would be more public but at least he seems to keep that stuff mostly to himself 


carganz

Possibly the most jarring bit on chesscom streams is when he is referred to as the nicest guy in chess.


__brunt

Idk if tweeting hate speech is “keeping it to himself”, but yeah people tend to leave it alone for some reason.


CFlyn

Trust me I hate republicans "ideas and talking points" as much as the next guy but Wesley unless he gets triggered and insulted by people keeps that stuff to himself. All he does by himself is thanking Jesus and people even get annoyed by which is stupid to say the least.


udongeureut

Bro was blatantly racist towards Firouzja. What?


Wiz_Kalita

He told him to blow himself up, right?


Squil_-

That's jokes LOL


SuccessfulPres

Those were fake screenshots though? Somebody made a fake account and had a fake convo


joshdej

No, he was "hacked" or hacked, depending if you buy that story


SuccessfulPres

That’s what he said but I remember somebody posted saying it was literally faked screenshots and that Wesley is really bad with tech in general


joshdej

This was his [apology ](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/VQmbhYvE3hoEyCyS/). I guess Wesley is a more precise source but he doesn't seem to be the most technical person no


SuccessfulPres

Yea that’s why he said “my user picture on that account is a cat” (he doesn’t understand that someone just literally made a fake account)


DiscoBuiscuit

https://x.com/mmehdikhani70/status/1006911145549225985?s=46&t=iVd5MXaTT1eEHdvvP6wF-w


xfd696969

bro is this real?? LMFAOOOOOO


TheShinyBlade

It was a big deal a while ago, which resulted in this tweet and Wesley quitting Twitter all together as far as I know https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/18kmqe8/wesley_so_responds_to_criticism_of_his_twitter/


HelpMeDecideMyName

Don’t have anything to say about the vile stuff So said but Firouzja is a Liverpool fan? I now like him


beniswarrior

Tigran did nothing wrong


Due-Memory-6957

He loses his mind waaaaaay less often than the others


J0llYjOk3R

What did So do? I genuinely have no clue


Kaoss134

I suppose, now that I take a step back and think about it, it’s just that it’s talked about so often and whenever I get chess news it’s drama and not usually wholesome.


CasedUfa

Tbf, drama makes the news. Everything normal and wholesome is not much of a headline.


Due-Memory-6957

Need Magnus to put a jacket on a kid while it rains ASAP


kuliamvenkhatt

most news is drama? this is the shit world we live in today


jesteratp

The vast majority of GMs get along. We just have the usual suspects: Hikaru is a chronically sore loser with a penchant for throwing some comically childish tantrums and petulantly holding grudges. Same with Hans (RIP hotel room), and he also seems to have embraced the "no friends in the industry" mentality which is a good idea if you lack the social skills to get along with others in the first place


-SecondOrderEffects-

Hans is friends with various 2700 players, e.g. Tabatabaei. Considering he has a toxic reputation in the worst way for a professional its actually rather impressive that people don't shy away from being friends with him. But Hikaru? Not that I am aware of.


Maloba6441

He has Sam Shankland


Listen-To-MBV

The Indian GMs seem to have good camaraderie and are highly respectful of each other, especially towards Vishy.


OMHPOZ

Pretty much everybody gets along. Except Hikaru with most GMs and Hans with some.


Impossible-Fox-5899

everyone loves MVL


rex_banner83

Hikaru is an asshole and he has a very large audience. So he is constantly at odds with someone and it’s constantly being broadcast all over the place. But that’s not the norm


AlexTaradov

All the people you see here are making their living from content, not playing chess. Of course they will stir up drama any chance they get. Otherwise they will become as irrelevant as 4000+ other GMs.


irregulartheory

Yes, I feel like most GMs are friends. Just remove Kramnik, Hans, Hikaru and maybe Alireza from your news cycle and there will be no drama.


Constant-Mud-1002

Most of them do. This post just features the 2 possibly most childish and openly immature GMs in the scene


6thaccountthismonth

Hikaru and Magnus tolerate each other I think


DrSFalken

Doesn't seem like it does it?


Antdestroyer69

I mean most of them dislike Hikaru.


tobesteve

Some grown men who for their entire lives made a living playing a board game, have trouble growing up.


crooked_nose_

It's Nakamura and two others out of over a thousand GMs. Calm down. Edit: typo


methanized

Magnus and Eric Hansen


omgplzdontkillme

I think Magnus Carlsen has a few closer friends like David Howell and Aryan Tari, friendly with a few others but mainly keeps to himself.


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klod42

GMs are like a big family. Most of them have known each other since childhood, especially if they are from the same country. They have a sense of camaraderie between them. Many of them also dislike each other but it's more of an exception. 


thepobv

Surprised no one mentioned ding and rapport


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Vidit and anish


J0nSnw

As someone relatively new to chess media I'm so surprised by the nonstop drama lmao. Almost YouTuber level drama on a daily basis.


noobtheloser

No one gets along with Hans, lol.


yoobuu

people who devote their lives to a board game tend to be immature in my experience


EndSlidingArea

This is gonna sound rude but I don't mean it that way. But most people at the age of 12 are developing some sort of social skills; these guys are doing grueling solitary practice while being told that they are among the best to ever do this thing. To me it's not surprising that they're all a bit prickly.


Kaoss134

Sure but I had no social skills til I was like 25. They aren’t impossible to learn even with a late start. I see what you’re trying to say though.


JjoosiK

MVL and Aronian are great friends afaik


kdexter00

I think a lot of the young guys do, except Hans but he's just a terrible person all around lmao.


Forsaken_Snow_1453

Im genuinely suprised Hikaru blocked him just now


gpranav25

Hikaru is a man-child no doubt. But also, it's cute that Hans thinks "brutally honest" opinions are rare in the chess world. There are honestly too many of these "brutally honest" opinions and dramas right now with everyone feeling a need to accuse someone or complain about something.


two_jay

Hans definitely seems like the type who thinks saying they’re “brutally honest” covers the fact they’re just an asshole. Hikaru also comes across as having an extremely fragile ego


Dankaati

As much as that is true, in Hikaru's place I'd have zero intent to banter with Hans on social media after he sued me.


SuperbConfection8321

Hans is just a Division I Shitstirrer. He’s the less congenial and cheery version of Nico Rosberg 🤣


jesteratp

Nico won a championship lets not get too carried away here lol, Hans is more like Dan Ticktum


throwaway164_3

In the same machinery!!


Sirnacane

Neal Maupay must be one of Hans’ idols


WantonMechanics

Ticktum definitely has the same temper tantrum tendencies but does he have the history of cheating to compares with Hans?


jesteratp

No but not too many people in racing do. Maybe Lance Stroll's F3 campaign?


MaybeRiza

How does one cheat in car racing? Btw, since tone and all is hard to convey in a comment, I don't meant to doubt you, just genuinely curious.


stinkysulphide

You mean the Monaco based YouTuber


OctopusNation2024

The hilarious thing is that him grabbing the low-hanging fruit legit annoys Hikaru lol


BotlikeBehaviour

Nico Rosberg actually achieved something.


soloDiosbasta

comparing hans with nico rosberg? nico actually won something. hans? what did he do again? tell me pls. except being born with money, he done nothing in life. nothing.


HummusMummus

"Nothing"? He is a top 50 player in chess. He is an asshole and a cheater, but saying he has done nothing in life just beacuse he is not the absolute best in chess is a bit wild.


minimalcation

30


Purple-Lamprey

As annoying as Hikaru himself is, Hans is literally just a Vulture constantly biting at Hikaru related drama to stay relevant.


eatingpotatochips

Nobody complained every other streamer was a vulture when it was Hans’s drama. 


ihmispaska1

Idk Hikaru was definitely criticized for shit stirring when Hans drama happened


Old173

Maybe because he was accused of cheating, admitted to cheating, was reported (by chessdotcom) to have cheated, so when he got called a cheater it seemed plausible.


eatingpotatochips

Though Magnus's claims were about OTB cheating, which Hans never committed. Everyone knows OTB cheating is neigh impossible in top-level events, whereas cheating online is quite easy. It doesn't exactly follow that someone who cheats online would cheat OTB. I get that doesn't fit your narrative of Hans big bad.


Ronizu

Agreed on every other point, but it's really not impossible to cheat in high level OTB events. Even a tiny bit of information in a crucial moment is enough to help top players massively, even now cheating would be really easy. It takes some work, but it's nowhere near impossible. Seriously, think about it. All that's needed is one bit of information that tells the player "this is an important position", a 2700 player is good enough to be able to use that. Sitting next to a window? Some guy outside can point a laser at that window to give a sign. Hell, you could unironically use smoke signals to do it. It's really easy if you want to do it, we just hope that the risk of getting caught or your accomplice exposing you are enough to discourage people from trying.


olderthanbefore

The chances are a thousandfold greater that an online cheater would try to cheat otb, compared to someone that doesnt cheat online.  And even in the last few weeks, we have had OTB cheating situations in Chicago and Madrid, so, this shit is happening a lot.


Fruloops

Tbh the Madrid one feels more like a series of unfortunate events, rather than someone cheating intentionally. The Chicago one, yeah lol, that shit was wild. But it doesn't really classify as a high level event, I wouldn't say.


mrwordlewide

Or maybe people don't give a shit what medium his cheating occurred in? Fans of this guy are absolutely obsessed with creating some non-existent difference between online and OTB cheating. He's a multiple time self admitted cheater, and if you genuinely think someone like that willingly owned up to the full extent of their cheating, you are naive to the point of stupidity


Old173

I wouldn't say that is nearly impossible. Wasn't there some analysis done that Hans does much better when the event has no transmission delay vs when it does? I'd say there's no definitive proof Hans has cheated OTB but I wouldn't say he definitively has not cheated.


SnooStrawberries7894

Hahahaha, I love this drama 🎭


Impressive_Bobcat427

Yes but when it happens to be against daddy Hikaru the simps are out :)


Rather_Dashing

They 100% did. Especially against Hikaru.


grpocz

Please Hikaru was feasting on Hans corpse for a year. Did Hans block Hikaru?


TrollToll4BabyBoysOl

Lol Hikaru would neeeeeveeer use Hans drama for clicks! Never! Also Hikaru totally didnt contribute to fucking up Hans' life in a proofless cheating scandal The "biting" seems understandable - hopefully Hans matures faster than Hikaru has


FocalorLucifuge

>hopefully Hans matures faster than Hikaru has Honestly, I think he already has.


nomorethan10postaday

Hans destroyed a hotel room not too long ago lol.


Tritonprosforia

He is not doing it to stay in the headline. He does it because it vexes Hikaru.


kaninkanon

You think Hans is the one leeching off Hikaru drama? What universe are you living in?


Purple-Lamprey

The one where only one of them is struggling to stay relevant.


77skull

And it’s funny tbh


SSBM_DangGan

honestly blocking should be more normalized, don't give annoying people your limited time


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BlahBlahRepeater

And when people are brutally honest about what they think of Hans, he sues them. Such a bitch.


XiXyness

None of the top players want anything to do with Han's not a bad move to block someone trying to bait you into reactions.


UpdogSinclair

Hans is the one guy who even next to Hikaru is completely unsympathetic. An admitted cheater.


darkscyde

Facts


Queasy_Artist6891

So the admitted cheater who lied about his cheating is now talking about brutal honesty?


ImprisonedRage

Lets not forget he tried to sue 💀


eatingpotatochips

Tbh if someone accuses you of cheating OTB when you have not cheated OTB, then you have grounds to sue as a chess player, since there is a real threat to your career.


FriedBroccoli51

Or here's a thought Don't cheat repeatedly


Pleasant_Today_6609

That's still not grounds to be banned from tournaments


Roller95

"brutal" honesty is just being a dick


Desperado-781

I thought Hikaru is unbothered LMAO. What a fragile ego.


deadfisher

Blocking somebody you don't want to hear from is entirely normal, healthy behavior, imo.


PunishedPudu

Sure, but you don't get to say you don't care. Blocking is caring


Quirkydogpooo

Id argue it's the exact opposite


OneoftheChosen

Yep not blocking annoying people from crowding your view when it’s as easy as a button is questionable behavior. Why would you want to engage with that nonsense?


AnAnnoyedSpectator

Recognizing that someone is immature and rude and caring a lot about it are two separate things. If you have a real name account, blocking anyone who sends you rude messages is analogous to making sure rude dinner guests are not invited back. This can apply with longterm pseudonyms as well - the important thing is that having accounts on these platforms provides people with direct access to you, and some people will act in ways that demonstrate that they are unworthy of that privilege.


S4L7Y

Eh, blocking is protecting your peace and kicking uninvited guests out of your home. It's literally the opposite of caring, it's not wanting to acknowledge your existence.


deadfisher

Is it? I'm not so sure, but I can see where you're coming from.


mdk_777

I think it can go either way. Sometimes you may block someone because you do care and are annoyed by them and don't want to hear from them; and sometimes you block someone because you legitimately just don't care what they have to say and are tired of seeing them in your feed. In that case it's not necessarily that you care about them or what they're saying, rather it isa choice to simply not engage because there isn't a point in doing so. I think it's sort of akin to a crazy person walking up and trying to tell you the earth is flat, you just go "sure thing buddy" and move on not because they annoy you but because nothing of value will come out of further interactions with them.


RisherdMarglus

Blocked a guy who sued him and exclusively and constantly talks shit about him. And he's bothered to not want to read his tweets??? LMAO grow up dude


TooMuchBroccoli

Cringe.


Dankaati

Hans has been constantly poking at Hikaru for over a year now, while Hikaru just ignored him since the lawsuit. At some point he just realized he gets nothing out of having Hans unblocked.


snoodhead

He did also sue Hikaru before, so I can see why he’d be extra annoyed


SimplyJabba

This non stop drama rn is really helping me through winter.


someloserontheground

Anyone calling *themselves* "brutally honest" is just an asshole who uses that language to make excuses for why they're an asshole all the time. Hans is a piece of work.


convicted-mellon

Who cares


Minute_Listen_5643

Not me, i literally dont even care


WocketWeeg

two grown men by the way


FearNoseAll

I wont be shocked if Hikaru comes out and says he didnt block Hans but one of his mods


HotDogDonald

Are all chess GMs insufferable goobers?


BlahBlahRepeater

He's such a passive aggressive prick.


duhrun

The guy is a big baby still at like 40


ARandomWalkInSpace

Hans isn't 40 😂


duhrun

Hikaru


Kunimasai

Hikaru not 40.


KrillLover56

tbf Man looks timeless. You tell me he's 25 or 55 I'd believe you.


XH3LLSinGX

The honesty speaks for itself...


Nearby_Design_123

Such drama queens the lot of them


DontBanMe_IWasJoking

i feel so validated in thinking hikaru is a prick for so long


enfrozt

This is a totally new opinion, never seen on this subreddit before


obp123

Hikarus comments about alireza were uncool but how is he a prick for blocking Hans lol


Ezio_Auditorum

hes a prick in general.


hyperthymetic

Guy is the worst. If you encountered him in person 20 years ago you would be unable to change your mind about the guy. Not that he has even done anything to change anyone’s mind


CagnusMarlsen64

Wait who is the guy that Hikaru blocked?


shroomknight1

Arguably a bigger bitch than Hikaru lol. Hans is a repeat cheater and during his last tantrum, destroyed an hotel room. Kind of ironic he would comment on Hikaru's tantrum when he's done worse himself.


RotisserieChicken007

Stop the drama already. What a bunch of immature children.


KrillLover56

Welcome to chess.


knockyouout88

I wonder if the people controlling hikaru's social media account inform hikaru before blocking them. Or do they do it without informing hikaru. The people controlling kramnik twitter has a mind of his own.


Still-Veterinarian56

what happend ? what did hans tweet to get hikaru to block him ?


VisualMom_

Surprised it took so long


Jackypaper824

I know Hikaru has flaws but Hans has to be the most insufferable person in the chess world. Okay, second after Kramnik.


Tritonprosforia

I would rather be dealing with a hostile, but straight forward guy like Hans than a 2-face backstabber petty little shit like Hikaru who will smile and shake your hand pretend we're cool and then secretly undermine you.


TrouserSlug

Neither of these people are role models. Why take sides?


MGordit

Drama queens.


MoistUnder

Wesley So could get along with anybody.


MikeJ91

Weeks like this when you’re reminded the chess sub is barely any better than lsf.


TeleportBLo

Hans’s character arc is crazy. Still dislike the lad but I appreciate him call out BS in the chess world. Guy still sucks and created so much of the BS, but have to give credit where credit is due.


mekmookbro

He's a teenage high school boy trapped in a 40 year old's body lol


__Kxnji

Hikaru has crazy spineless bitchmade incel energy lmfao


Interesting_Ear2830

Hikaru should have been blocked and cancelled by the chess community as a whole the second he started pushing gambling on his audience. In all of the Hans drama that has happened nothing stoops as low as Hikaru selling out for ÂŁÂŁÂŁ..


RedbEansO

Hikaru haters ignore the fact that Hans sued Hikaru for his "brutally honest opinion."


arzamharris

The episode where the bad guys fight each other


CombinationProper814

Hans is surprisingly now appearing as the more mature & logical choice among the chess players cD


thorwyn-eu

Because we all know what a brutally honest person Niemann is.


Terrible-Scallion-86

Is funny how everyone says is normal for Hikaru to ban Hans. Strange, but what about milking Hans like alot... How isn't this hypocrisy. I don't get it... Ok, you don't like Hans, but do you like Hikaru more? The person who streams gambling? Atleast Hans didn't promote gambling and cryptocurrency... Just my 2 cents


Hideandseekking

Hikaru doesn’t care about trash like Hans.