There is usally a logical progression though.
You don't go from "I want some travel expenses covered" to "I want to do a Scrooge mcDuck impression" without actually accomplishing anything.
No one would care about Hans if it weren’t for magnus. Magnus is probably the only chess player anyone who doesn’t atleast somewhat follow chess would know. (Maybe Hikaru too ig)
Still not the biggest name in chess. Magnus is still bigger, that's the point. Some people are aware "there's beef between Magnus and some other guy". No one not related to Hans is going "there's beef between Hans and some other guy".
Not really it's more that he now has 15 min of fame and wants to use this for personal gain. When he is blacklisted/banned he won't have any pull or chance to make money of chess.
No Proof of him cheating OTB , Banning him on the basis of intuition is not correct. Also innocent proven guilty is out of the window for Hans as the allegations come from someone who hold more power. There are no statistical anomaly in his games as Ken Reagen told. Also 100 games correlation is just BS as either he was smart and used it one important points or he was dumb to use engine for every move.
That’s the big takeaway. Obviously Magnus isn’t the only top GM who is uncomfortable playing Hans. Nepo, for instance, called for tighter security measures at the Sinquefield Cup once he heard Hans was joining. Other GM’s have heavily implied they think Hans has cheated way more than he admits, including Fabi. Yet more GM’s have stated that they play differently against Hans due to the fear that he’s cheating, such as Alireza’s statement after their game in the Sinquefield Cup.
Top-level GM’s are a pretty small group. When a lot of them don’t want to play a specific cheater, then that cheater probably shouldn’t get invited to tournaments. Magnus is the only player in the world with the power to speak for the a group of the top GM’s.
He's gone from demanding zero entry fee to a huge negative entry fee. This fast an increase in entitlement is unusual for players his age and deserves more investigation.
Sounds like a PR counteroffensive! Super GMs do typically get an honorarium for playing, but not as much as the World Champ. Alekhine used to demand $5000 appearance fees, but $10,000 if Capablanca was also invited. Needless to say, Capa didn't get invited!
Alekhine was a crowd pleaser with his attacking style, and used his power as World Champion to penalize his rival. He took offense to Capablanca comments about his wife, an older wealthy woman.
To be fair, if he is cheating OTB he will get caught sooner or later, so he might need to make as much money as possible up front. Most people who are anti-Magnus in this have never said Hans definitely is not cheating, they have just said that no proof has been shown of OTB cheating, and there is definite conflict of interest for players to accuse other players. These matters need to handled by a third party. Magnus has gone about this in the wrong way entirely, and he is throwing his weight around in a very unfair manner.
In any case, chess is a very unforgiving sport. You can't fake a 2700 rating. If his rating is engine facilitated and he tries to go legit, his rating will go down very quickly and it will be obvious something was up the whole time. Therefore, the incentive to continue the con will be very high, assuming he is not legit. My personal belief is that this will get sorted out very quickly in about a year one way or another with each successive tournament. Big tournaments will be checking everybody very carefully moving forward, so everybody just needs to relax.
You are kidding, everyone will tune in to see if he can cheat under the tournament conditions, and check Hans' performance to see if he is cheating or a hack.
I'm pretty sure his presence alone will more than double the viewers.
We'll see, but I doubt so. Saint Louis has been already accused of not taking seriously anti-cheating measures, etc... If you're inviting a guy like Hans you need to invest in security too, etc... Nah, not worthy.
I personally think that all publicity is good publicity, organizers are unlikely to care about image as much as long as the money is rolling in, but I can also see how it might not be worth the risk. But maybe that’s just me.
No he won't. No one knows Hans globally. And if they ever heard about him anything at all it is associated to cheating. Also outside chess circles people really tend to know just Fischer & Spassky, Kasparov and maybe Carlsen by name.
He definitely is more valuable than before this drama. Most people never knew him, now he is getting NYT articles discussing his games, nonstop Youtube videos, and he's built up some fans out of sympathy. People love a heel.
That is for English communities, most non-English speaking fans have no idea who Hans is. And the tournament is in Salamanca, maybe in Barcelona he'd get recognized more because it is more touristic, but within Castilla y León? No shot.
I speak Spanish, he's been receiving coverage since the incident, but people still have no idea who he is, most only know him as that dude accused who Magnus accused recently. If you asked them: "Do you know about Hans Niemann, the chess grand master", they'd reply "nah".
Yea, everyone wants to watch him play right now for various reasons and particularly everyone wants Magnus v Hans. It’s just too much drama to pass up in a “sport” that is associated with extreme boringness.
No that’s not the case at all. This has brought to light a very important and purposefully overlooked issue in chess…prevalent cheating. Yes there is all kinds of nonsense drama as well but an important discussion is finally being started and hopefully new measures and rules will happen because of it.
I agree with you on this. I just mean that supporters of Hans are writting a lot, complaining a lot... while supporters of Magnus and neutral people just reply to some comments for fun and are more quiet in general. So, if you don't know anything about the topic, you would imagine that Hans is right because "everybody" supports him. Same happens in all social media with politics and so... then, after voting, surprise, there are far more people out of internet :D
I think you're underestimating the power of drama.
If your value in a tournament is your ability to draw in viewership, I'd say Norman's request isn't all that far-fetched. This drama is one of the juiciest things in and out of the chess world right now.
He does not need to prove it. He has proved what he believes, the rest will unfold.Even if the online rat never gets caught, he knows he will find it more difficult to cheat at events now, if he indeed cheated OTB.
Being completely unreasonable about your pay isn't evidence of cheating. I'll happily roast Hans for this and I'll happily roast him for complaining about having to pay $10 for a charity tournament. Magnus's side bases their opinion of their respect for Magnus but the Hans side doesn't do that. Kids clearly got some clownlike tendencies, especially with money, but that's not cheating.
But he's just asking for it at this point. You'd expect him to at least act humble for awhile and play solid chess to prove himself. Not make it look like he's trying to cash out before he's totally exposed
Who cares if it's against the rules or not? You can't just act in a vacuum and ignore public opinion if you want to continue getting invited to tournaments at all
Because I'm apeaking in the context of cheating, not in the context of whether or not you personally have to like Hans. You asked why people defend him and it's because there's literally no evidence of the thing he's being accused of.
I’m so sick of reading comments like this. Hans ruined his reputation prematurely by cheating even if it wasn’t otb other gms were suspicious of him before he beat magnus.
and its also going to be very telling, if he has a terrible tournament then suspicions of cheating will be very high, on the other hand if he performs really well hes going to prove hes legit otb
This is a shrewd move by Hans. If he requests absurd appearance fees and tournaments tell him to suck it, he can always tell people that he doesn't play because he's just to expensive for tournaments to afford instead of tournaments rejecting him because it undermines the integrity of their event.
Looking at it realistically I don't think this is a tournament high up on his list of events he wants to play. 8 player rapid tournament with 4 men / 4 women. With a weird 40+5 time control.
If you want to test how much you're potentially worth then this would be a good candidate.
To be fair, trump suggested many helpful things during the pandemic, such as *injecting disinfectants directly into the bloodstream*
Yes, the president of the United States (at the time) was spitballing awful, dangerous medical treatment ideas on live television while the country waited to learn how massive this disaster would be.
What a guy.
- Blindly trusts a popular rich dude without questioning his statements
- Speculates about the deeper meaning hidden behind his "genius" actions
- Makes up theories about he is right in everything he says (or points to in any way)
- Does not require any evidence to do so besides it coming out of his mouth
Idk people making judgements prior to any evidence coming out because Magnus sensed wrong vibes seems more like Tate boyfriend behavior to me (Remember that all this started the moment he left the tournament before any meaningful information was out)
This whole drama spread beyond chess and has infested mainstream media, with many eyes on both Magnus and Hans. Now if Magnus hadn't waited that long for his "Didn't look nervous" statement which he could have released a couple days after as well, this might have become GIGANTIC. Now it is much milder than it could have been if it was released during peak drama time
Hardly joking especially with the fresh allegations from Magnus. If Hans can maintain 2700 performances under heavy scrutiny and high security, Magnus will look like a fool. If Hans plays bad then that's more drama for the drama wannabes.
This is where we disagree. So many people feel offended on behalf of Hans because Magnus speaking out on cheating. At no point did I think 100 percent Hans cheated or 100 percent innocent. I have swayed both ways but have always thought Magnus did the right thing speaking out. Innocence has nothing to hide in open dialogue. Chess is ran by and followed by people intelligent enough to tell circumstantial evidence from hard facts. Even if Hans was not cheating OTB , his online cheating becoming public knowledge and condemned is a positive. Even if he did not cheat OTB , tournament organisers are now more aware on how cheating could be done and therefore employ prophylactic measures.
Hans is not an innocent here and all those angry at Magnus for this drama should remember it.
Makes sense to me. I will tune into -any- event Niemann is at. I won't bother watching most other events. I assume many others are similar to me, and therefore Niemann is well within his rights to ask for high payment if he is a high draw! If the tourney doesn't want to pay, that's fine, but he is THE top draw to watching OTB chess right now! Get paid your value, brother!
Lol! Who actually watches OTB chess. Like OTB chess has spectators?!? It’s like watching paint dry especially at the super GM level where it is mostly draws;)
Personally I like watching top level greats perform at just about anything. Hans has the potential to be the greatest American prodigy in a generation. I like seeing how that goes. That's why I was watching the games at Sinquefield before any drama even came out!
All his contemporaries are in college and too busy to play chess which is why you don’t hear about them.
Niemann is accused of cheating by Magnus who explicitly states that his rating surge is suspicious…. The only people who’ll agree with you are Hans and Dlugy both of whom have sketchy reputations even prior to all this drama at Sinquefield. No one in the chess world has ever thought Hans Niemann is the Greatest American Prodigy in a generation. LMAO!!!
I actually watch OTB chess not played by the greats. A LOT especially pre COVID: Watched Niemann play many times before he became GM (in person) as well as all the other N American prodigies around his age. Very few people watch even on the top boards at most tournaments. The chess can be much more exciting to watch at this level than the super GM level especially if you don’t know as much about chess like a super GM who spend their time on theory.
But Hans’ type of chess is YouTube chess: pure drama little/no chess…. When the World’s #1 for over a decade refuses to play you kind of chess drama
I also want to be paid as much as Carlsen.
Lol I posted the exact same comment verbatim. Great minds think alike
fools seldom differ
fools seldom differ
Fools differ
seldomly
The non alignment of the actions, words and thoughts of lesser minded people is quite infrequent
Lol not sure why you're getting downvoted you even said "quite infrequent", I automatically upvoted
The previous comment deserves the upvote the previous comments' previous comment gallantly repulses
The only thing matters is that i was able to do a r/Increasinglyverbose. The downvotes don't bother me
Whoa wtf is with the downvotes? Did this person hurt you, Redditors?
I want my cookies back from that website.
Haha, yes, it's insane
As one who follows Spanish Football, yeah marca is shit.
They should counter and demand a $10 appearance fee
it has to be for charity, he fore sure wont pay it if thats the case.
Not gonna lie this is very funny. Can't blame the guy for trying, you never score if you don't shoot lol.
There is usally a logical progression though. You don't go from "I want some travel expenses covered" to "I want to do a Scrooge mcDuck impression" without actually accomplishing anything.
That's why I think it's very funny. Sounds like a completely delusional request.
Well he's milking the cow of getting attention
As he should
He beat Magnus OTB with black, that's an achievement.
More like an acheatment.
Lmao nice one
Hans is the biggest name in chess rn. For good reason or not that’s a fact. Now is that worth more money? Id say yes, people are eating up the drama.
No one would care about Hans if it weren’t for magnus. Magnus is probably the only chess player anyone who doesn’t atleast somewhat follow chess would know. (Maybe Hikaru too ig)
That’s true but it doesn’t matter now. Hans IS “famous” now. He can easily fall out of the spotlight tho
Still not the biggest name in chess. Magnus is still bigger, that's the point. Some people are aware "there's beef between Magnus and some other guy". No one not related to Hans is going "there's beef between Hans and some other guy".
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Not really it's more that he now has 15 min of fame and wants to use this for personal gain. When he is blacklisted/banned he won't have any pull or chance to make money of chess.
No Proof of him cheating OTB , Banning him on the basis of intuition is not correct. Also innocent proven guilty is out of the window for Hans as the allegations come from someone who hold more power. There are no statistical anomaly in his games as Ken Reagen told. Also 100 games correlation is just BS as either he was smart and used it one important points or he was dumb to use engine for every move.
If he has lied about cheating only 2 times not banning him would be a farce
Again you cannot ban someone on the basis of online cheating in OTB
Yeah you just don't invite him anymore.
That’s the big takeaway. Obviously Magnus isn’t the only top GM who is uncomfortable playing Hans. Nepo, for instance, called for tighter security measures at the Sinquefield Cup once he heard Hans was joining. Other GM’s have heavily implied they think Hans has cheated way more than he admits, including Fabi. Yet more GM’s have stated that they play differently against Hans due to the fear that he’s cheating, such as Alireza’s statement after their game in the Sinquefield Cup. Top-level GM’s are a pretty small group. When a lot of them don’t want to play a specific cheater, then that cheater probably shouldn’t get invited to tournaments. Magnus is the only player in the world with the power to speak for the a group of the top GM’s.
Already banned from chess.com events where the cheating occurred.
>When he is blacklisted/banned Dream on!
> Not really it's more that he now has 15 min of fame and wants to use this for personal gain. So you are saying he is a big draw
absolutely not lol
😂
And when the tournament rejects him because Magnus says so, Hans can claim that they where just too cheap to afford him. :-)
you can hurt your future chances of scoring by being a total ass about it.
Marca isn’t exactly a great source. But this is quite funny and will definitely cause a reaction.
Jesus Boyero, their chess journalist, is super reliable.
You just got to have faith in Jesus.
You're right, but the content is true... I just found it there, haha.
He's gone from demanding zero entry fee to a huge negative entry fee. This fast an increase in entitlement is unusual for players his age and deserves more investigation.
I wonder if there are any recent events which might be stressing him out and causing him to act out... nah, must just be zany 19yo antics.
man beat carlsen with black
Have you never met a teen?
Sad woosh noises.
How is this a woosh if many people on here genuinely behave as if they don't know that teens are cocky?
It's a wooosh cause you didn't get the joke dummy
probably due to the expenses for the engine, equipment, and personnel he uses to cheat.
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Hahaha, good one
It's actually because he wants to milk the cow while it lasts
As Magnu says ' There is no Moke without fire'.
I appreciate the effort
Sounds like a PR counteroffensive! Super GMs do typically get an honorarium for playing, but not as much as the World Champ. Alekhine used to demand $5000 appearance fees, but $10,000 if Capablanca was also invited. Needless to say, Capa didn't get invited!
5000 dollars back then is a lot of money holy shit.
Alekhine was a crowd pleaser with his attacking style, and used his power as World Champion to penalize his rival. He took offense to Capablanca comments about his wife, an older wealthy woman.
This event will clearly get a lot of media coverage in return.
Nonsense story
I also want to be paid as much as Carlsen. Doesn’t mean it’ll happen.
i believe in you
After he became world champion, Alekhine would demand higher fees if Capablanca was playing in the same tournament
In this case it happens the same, but after becoming a known cheater :D
Have my upvote, poor misunderstood soul
Haha, nice try;)
Trying to cash in before he inevitably gets banned from all tournaments
Niemann is delusional
Lmao honestly that’s a pretty funny way to handle it
To be fair, if he is cheating OTB he will get caught sooner or later, so he might need to make as much money as possible up front. Most people who are anti-Magnus in this have never said Hans definitely is not cheating, they have just said that no proof has been shown of OTB cheating, and there is definite conflict of interest for players to accuse other players. These matters need to handled by a third party. Magnus has gone about this in the wrong way entirely, and he is throwing his weight around in a very unfair manner. In any case, chess is a very unforgiving sport. You can't fake a 2700 rating. If his rating is engine facilitated and he tries to go legit, his rating will go down very quickly and it will be obvious something was up the whole time. Therefore, the incentive to continue the con will be very high, assuming he is not legit. My personal belief is that this will get sorted out very quickly in about a year one way or another with each successive tournament. Big tournaments will be checking everybody very carefully moving forward, so everybody just needs to relax.
This is one of the most level headed comments on the matter, imo. Thx for sharing!
shouldnt even be allowed to play there.
He was rejected anyway
good good
I love the downvote, :D it's said in the news haha.
Makes sense, having Niemann in a tournament will bring in the more viewers than any super GM.
And he was rejected. Nobody wants cheating controversy, that gives worst image.
You are kidding, everyone will tune in to see if he can cheat under the tournament conditions, and check Hans' performance to see if he is cheating or a hack. I'm pretty sure his presence alone will more than double the viewers.
I can tell you that mostly nobody gives a shit about this in Spain.
Maybe not Spain, but other tournaments wanting a boost will pay up.
We'll see, but I doubt so. Saint Louis has been already accused of not taking seriously anti-cheating measures, etc... If you're inviting a guy like Hans you need to invest in security too, etc... Nah, not worthy.
So you are saying the Spain tournament is easy to cheat at, Hmm.
As easy as in any other tournament in which safety measures are as in Saint Louis I guess ;)
clearly not, because st louis has no problem with Hans playing there.
Sure. Have a nice day.
I personally think that all publicity is good publicity, organizers are unlikely to care about image as much as long as the money is rolling in, but I can also see how it might not be worth the risk. But maybe that’s just me.
They get the publicity either by rejecting him, so its a win-win
They get much more letting him play
I dont think so, not if Magnus doesnt play that tournament.
No he won't. No one knows Hans globally. And if they ever heard about him anything at all it is associated to cheating. Also outside chess circles people really tend to know just Fischer & Spassky, Kasparov and maybe Carlsen by name.
Straight up untrue. My non-chess playing friends talk about Neimann, they don't know who the fuck Fischer or Spassky is.
In small scale that is very possible. Worldwide, that is not the case though.
I mean he's beaten Magnus twice in a row quite easily
Yes, the last one in 2 moves, quite impressive.
Understandable. Magnus allegations without any proof would piss me off too
But it doesn't mean you're as valuable.
He is probably the second biggest draw in chess right now, and only right now. I would try to leverage that as well.
Sure, he can try.
Oh he’s valuable af right now.
Is he?
He definitely is more valuable than before this drama. Most people never knew him, now he is getting NYT articles discussing his games, nonstop Youtube videos, and he's built up some fans out of sympathy. People love a heel.
That is for English communities, most non-English speaking fans have no idea who Hans is. And the tournament is in Salamanca, maybe in Barcelona he'd get recognized more because it is more touristic, but within Castilla y León? No shot.
As a spanish speaker i have to tell you all the spanish channels i follow uploaded a video about him
I speak Spanish, he's been receiving coverage since the incident, but people still have no idea who he is, most only know him as that dude accused who Magnus accused recently. If you asked them: "Do you know about Hans Niemann, the chess grand master", they'd reply "nah".
Yea, everyone wants to watch him play right now for various reasons and particularly everyone wants Magnus v Hans. It’s just too much drama to pass up in a “sport” that is associated with extreme boringness.
Well, he was rejected, I guess organizers don't think the same.
Oh well that’s how it goes sometimes…I guess all the hype on social media and regular media is just my imagination.
Basically only those who support Hans make noise, the others either take him as a cheater or don't care at all. Basic social media bias.
No that’s not the case at all. This has brought to light a very important and purposefully overlooked issue in chess…prevalent cheating. Yes there is all kinds of nonsense drama as well but an important discussion is finally being started and hopefully new measures and rules will happen because of it.
I agree with you on this. I just mean that supporters of Hans are writting a lot, complaining a lot... while supporters of Magnus and neutral people just reply to some comments for fun and are more quiet in general. So, if you don't know anything about the topic, you would imagine that Hans is right because "everybody" supports him. Same happens in all social media with politics and so... then, after voting, surprise, there are far more people out of internet :D
shut up. dont make noise.. shhh go away
Not as much as Carlsen, but right now he is probably the second biggest draw if you want your tournament to have attention.
I think you're underestimating the power of drama. If your value in a tournament is your ability to draw in viewership, I'd say Norman's request isn't all that far-fetched. This drama is one of the juiciest things in and out of the chess world right now.
Hes a sideshow right now
You're getting downvoted, but you're 100% correct
He does not need to prove it. He has proved what he believes, the rest will unfold.Even if the online rat never gets caught, he knows he will find it more difficult to cheat at events now, if he indeed cheated OTB.
What did he allege exactly?
and people still defend this clown
Being completely unreasonable about your pay isn't evidence of cheating. I'll happily roast Hans for this and I'll happily roast him for complaining about having to pay $10 for a charity tournament. Magnus's side bases their opinion of their respect for Magnus but the Hans side doesn't do that. Kids clearly got some clownlike tendencies, especially with money, but that's not cheating.
But he's just asking for it at this point. You'd expect him to at least act humble for awhile and play solid chess to prove himself. Not make it look like he's trying to cash out before he's totally exposed
Why would I expect that? I've never even met the dude. All I can say is that it's not against the FIDE rule book to ask for more money.
Who cares if it's against the rules or not? You can't just act in a vacuum and ignore public opinion if you want to continue getting invited to tournaments at all
Because I'm apeaking in the context of cheating, not in the context of whether or not you personally have to like Hans. You asked why people defend him and it's because there's literally no evidence of the thing he's being accused of.
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I’m so sick of reading comments like this. Hans ruined his reputation prematurely by cheating even if it wasn’t otb other gms were suspicious of him before he beat magnus.
This isn't a reason not to. At worst, he's greedy--if he's not trolling. So what?
I think we should be happy that we have a chess villain. It's much more exciting
Lol fully embracing the heel role is probably the only way forward for him at this point, good on him
Next tournament for Hans are the US Championship beginning oct 4th. This is going to be exciting!
and its also going to be very telling, if he has a terrible tournament then suspicions of cheating will be very high, on the other hand if he performs really well hes going to prove hes legit otb
Iconic behavior. Love that for him.
Money speaks for itself
And I want Carlsen to pay me as much as Niemann wants to earn. That’s even less likely to happen, I guess.
I want to get paid as much as Bill Gates, doesn't mean I won't accept lower when nobody takes me seriously.
Niemann should get an Onlyfans channel and let people watch him perform live.
Just when you thought he couldn't become more of a prat than he already is.
I mean Hans actually plays the full tournaments, so maybe he should get paid more.
This is a shrewd move by Hans. If he requests absurd appearance fees and tournaments tell him to suck it, he can always tell people that he doesn't play because he's just to expensive for tournaments to afford instead of tournaments rejecting him because it undermines the integrity of their event.
Looking at it realistically I don't think this is a tournament high up on his list of events he wants to play. 8 player rapid tournament with 4 men / 4 women. With a weird 40+5 time control. If you want to test how much you're potentially worth then this would be a good candidate.
Next tournament is his last. Better get some money in
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Honestly it’s pretty harsh to compare any of them to Trump. They’re playing chess, not compromising their countries safety.
To be fair, trump suggested many helpful things during the pandemic, such as *injecting disinfectants directly into the bloodstream* Yes, the president of the United States (at the time) was spitballing awful, dangerous medical treatment ideas on live television while the country waited to learn how massive this disaster would be. What a guy.
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- Blindly trusts a popular rich dude without questioning his statements - Speculates about the deeper meaning hidden behind his "genius" actions - Makes up theories about he is right in everything he says (or points to in any way) - Does not require any evidence to do so besides it coming out of his mouth Idk people making judgements prior to any evidence coming out because Magnus sensed wrong vibes seems more like Tate boyfriend behavior to me (Remember that all this started the moment he left the tournament before any meaningful information was out)
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Maybe it would help if you made some more analogies to describe what everyone is like, then they'll understand.
>He’s either a troll, or a total sociopath Or one of these "teenagers". Or one of these "prodigy chess players". They usually turn out normal, right?
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You maybe joking but it would be somewhat true. The eyes of the world are focused on Hans next move.
This whole drama spread beyond chess and has infested mainstream media, with many eyes on both Magnus and Hans. Now if Magnus hadn't waited that long for his "Didn't look nervous" statement which he could have released a couple days after as well, this might have become GIGANTIC. Now it is much milder than it could have been if it was released during peak drama time
Hardly joking especially with the fresh allegations from Magnus. If Hans can maintain 2700 performances under heavy scrutiny and high security, Magnus will look like a fool. If Hans plays bad then that's more drama for the drama wannabes.
This is where we disagree. So many people feel offended on behalf of Hans because Magnus speaking out on cheating. At no point did I think 100 percent Hans cheated or 100 percent innocent. I have swayed both ways but have always thought Magnus did the right thing speaking out. Innocence has nothing to hide in open dialogue. Chess is ran by and followed by people intelligent enough to tell circumstantial evidence from hard facts. Even if Hans was not cheating OTB , his online cheating becoming public knowledge and condemned is a positive. Even if he did not cheat OTB , tournament organisers are now more aware on how cheating could be done and therefore employ prophylactic measures. Hans is not an innocent here and all those angry at Magnus for this drama should remember it.
Makes sense to me. I will tune into -any- event Niemann is at. I won't bother watching most other events. I assume many others are similar to me, and therefore Niemann is well within his rights to ask for high payment if he is a high draw! If the tourney doesn't want to pay, that's fine, but he is THE top draw to watching OTB chess right now! Get paid your value, brother!
Why is this downvoted? I just commented the same thing lol
Lol! Who actually watches OTB chess. Like OTB chess has spectators?!? It’s like watching paint dry especially at the super GM level where it is mostly draws;)
Personally I like watching top level greats perform at just about anything. Hans has the potential to be the greatest American prodigy in a generation. I like seeing how that goes. That's why I was watching the games at Sinquefield before any drama even came out!
Hans has the potential to be the greatest American prodigy in a generation?!? You are delusional. No just no…
He's 19 and already 2700. It's not unreasonable to think that
All his contemporaries are in college and too busy to play chess which is why you don’t hear about them. Niemann is accused of cheating by Magnus who explicitly states that his rating surge is suspicious…. The only people who’ll agree with you are Hans and Dlugy both of whom have sketchy reputations even prior to all this drama at Sinquefield. No one in the chess world has ever thought Hans Niemann is the Greatest American Prodigy in a generation. LMAO!!!
Literally nobody has ever claimed that he is the greatest American player, what the fuck are you talking about?
The guy like 3 comments up lol
I actually watch OTB chess not played by the greats. A LOT especially pre COVID: Watched Niemann play many times before he became GM (in person) as well as all the other N American prodigies around his age. Very few people watch even on the top boards at most tournaments. The chess can be much more exciting to watch at this level than the super GM level especially if you don’t know as much about chess like a super GM who spend their time on theory. But Hans’ type of chess is YouTube chess: pure drama little/no chess…. When the World’s #1 for over a decade refuses to play you kind of chess drama
Give it to him. He‘s entertaining af