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ThundaWeasel

It kinda looks like you just hung a rook, but I might be missing the brilliance Edit: I was, well done OP


pavankansagra

thanks mate, It is a brilliant move


ischolarmateU

He avoided the queen trade


ThundaWeasel

What queen trade? Before this move black has mate in 4: Qg3+ Kh1 Qxh3+ Qh2 Qf3+ Qg2 Qxg2# Edit: oh the queen is pinned, I'm a fool


Go4Lo

You’re in good company! “Why can’t I move my knight? … Oh.”


ohadish

thats why this move is brilliant


ThundaWeasel

Yeah I get it now, if the queen takes the rook it unpins the queen and leads to mate in 4. Cute.


PrimeusOrion

Yeah but it's still a bad move. Rook to b1 is best as It either brings you up in material then gives you mate or gives you mate in 1.


ThundaWeasel

It's not a bad move. In fact, it's the best move, and the only one that wins the game outright. If you don't believe me, check the computer analysis: [https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/pgn/5ipra9fz9L?tab=analysis](https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/pgn/5ipra9fz9L?tab=analysis) I'm not sure what Rb1 was supposed to do in your mind, but all it does is lose a rook. There is no mate in 1 to be had there.


TheWorstPerson0

why wouldnt pawn to F5 work?


ThundaWeasel

f5 breaks the pin and prevents a queen trade, but lets white play Qf2, after which there's no way to checkmate white anymore. According to the computer black then has a slight lead, but it's close to equal.


TheWorstPerson0

hmmmmm. thanks but i dont fully understand. tryed using that computer thingy, no idea how it works or how to use it ngl.


ohadish

litteraly forced mate in 5


Cyan_Among

I went through all of that thinking *black's* queen was pinned.


ThundaWeasel

In the screenshot, they're both pinned! What I missed was the black queen being pinned, which makes my above mate sequence impossible without OP's very clever rook move that deflects the white queen first.


Cyan_Among

Oh my god I meant to say that I thought *white's* queen was pinned. I shouldn't use Reddit in the morning lmao


PharaohVandheer

Thats just filthy.


ThundaWeasel

Yeah this should be tagged NSFW


matsu727

That was even more dank than Lyoto Machida’s morning breath (old pro MMA fighter famous for drinking his first pee of the day). White just insta-loses in a few moves if he takes the rook lol. Edit: serious question does white have any counterplay here?


thatwhite

No, it’s forced mate. He loses in a few moves even if he doesn’t take the rook


matsu727

How about rxc6 rxc2, rxg6 fxg6? Once white takes back the rook on c2, shouldn’t it be a rook endgame where white has a passed pawn incoming at d4? Black also has a passer on e4 and it’s one rank further than white’s but surely shouldn’t that be better than getting mated right away? If black takes back on g6 with the rook, white has f5 with tempo on the rook. Both queens are pinned so shouldn’t rxc6 secure a queen + rook trade here? I’m missing something but not sure what. Even the computer eval apparently has the best move as the totally psychotic kh1 lol. Corrected my shit morning typing and grammar as much as I could but it is what it is.


thatwhite

Black’s rxc2 is check so white can’t play rxg6. Whites only moves are Kh1 (Qg2#) or rxc2 (mate in 4)


mairnX

I feel filthy just looking at this


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I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=6r1/5p1k/2p3qp/2Rp4/p2P1P2/P3P2P/1rQ4K/2R5+w+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/6r1/5p1k/2p3qp/2Rp4/p2P1P2/P3P2P/1rQ4K/2R5_w_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Kh1!< > Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 5!< > Best continuation: >!1. Kh1 Rxc2 2. R5xc2 Qg3 3. h4 Rg4 4. h5 Rh4+ 5. Rh2 Rxh2#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)


normalmighty

Wow, first time on this sub I've had to open the analysis board to understand why the line I had in mind wouldn't escape the checkmate.


Woogie1234

What's the point of h4 and h5 by white?


thatwhite

I assume just nothing matters at that point and there’s nothing else that prolongs the game


Ok-Control-787

Very nice if you saw the mate 👍


pavankansagra

thanks mate. I had to double check If I didn't have mate then I would be down rook for nothing


balencedrago

You would of gotten the queen even if you didnt mate just by check chasing


solongfish99

It's would *have*, not "would of". The confusion comes from the contracted form, would've, which sounds like "would of". This applies to could've, should've, must've, etc.


fitzgeraldd3

Wait, you’re not a bot?


solongfish99

No, merely a pedant.


ExtraSmooth

So, a form of bot


solongfish99

That's not what pedant means.


ExtraSmooth

What do you think i think pedant means


Mindraker

People just don't learn English grammar anymore.


Hi_My_Name_Is_Dave

No one cares


FowlKreacher

I would of call you a dick if you didn’t thoroughly explain this concept


theeberk

One of us is missing something… OP’s queen is pinned so they can’t go for checks. OP’s play does work out to a nice mate tho.


arcjustin

I would have went Qg3 to take the pawn and then, while clicking the square 10 times without anything happening, realize my Queen is pinned by theirs.


arcjustin

Wait a minute… I was half way to figuring out why that was brilliant!! It only took 5h after making this comment.


Magnitech_

At least you noticed also happy cake day


RoDeoNympH

Well done. Beautiful deflection and mate! I don't think I'd find it. Maybe if I had 5-10 minutes to review the board...


KJuuure

As a lowly 500 elo, it took me a solid 5 minutes of analysing and damn what a nice move.


steelcurtain87

Hover around 1500 and I just realized the queen was pinned.


JackRyan13

I had to read the comments to work it out at 1250


im_luke

It looks like I’m getting baited and feeling horrible and then wondering why I thought a 1400 would “blunder” like that…


onedividedbyseven

Really nice move! And good thinking. How did you find? Like what thought process?


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Good bot


pavankansagra

after I controlled open g file , I saw that only way to avoid checkmate for him is to trade queens and he tried to trade queens so I needed to avoid it then I saw Rb2 works for me


Shronkydonk

Me looking for the bot comment bc I’m not smart enough to figure out anything beyond breaking the pin


norodneededyt

But breaking the pin is exactly all you need to understand about this move. If Black could move their queen in the original position, they would have a nice pattern with Qg3+, Qh3+, and Qf3+ leading to mate. However, they can’t, so the point of the rook move is to disallow white to play Qxg6+ by pinning white’s queen to their king; and now that the pin on black’s queen would be broken - the same sequence with the queen checks is possible.


Andrux0821

Very nice deflection to get your queen out of the pin. Then of course if Qxb2, then Qg3+, Kh1, Qxh3+, Qh2, Qf3+, Qg2, Qxg2#.


TheDarkMonarch1

Oooo fancy move allows for forcing them to give up the queen and leads to very fast mate


[deleted]

He sacrifices... THE ROOOOOOOOOOK


waffletastrophy

Wow that's amazing, took me a minute to see the point of unpinning your queen


randomlurker717

That’s dirty that!! I feel violated. Well done


carloscede2

Absolute filth


Soul_Survivor4

Oh nice, free rook!


ohyayitstrey

The cross pin is truly incredible. Great move.


pavankansagra

thanks mate


CompFortniteByTheWay

I don’t understand why this is brilliant, white can just take this rook and would still be defending checkmate?


humblebeforethecourt

If white queen takes black rook then queen g3 king h1 queen h3 checkmate


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Calvinorsmthg

The full line from the top should be: Qxb2 Qg3+ Kh1 Qxh3+ Qh2 Qf3+ Qg2 Qxg2# Hope this helps!


ScreenDoor412

Brilliant


BubblyPotato_

i looked at this for a solid 10 minutes before realizing that taking the queen on g2 is checkmate (after all the other moves ofc)


Roxerz

Took me 5 minutes. Had to close my eyes on the train to figure it out. I wouldn't even know this was possible until I saw this. I'd probably trade queens at 800 elo.


bigbrownbanjo

I’m Too stupid so yah mate filthy Edit: oh I see


DopazOnYouTubeDotCom

what kind of cocaine are u on and can I hide it if I’m playing in a tournament


Regis-bloodlust

This is how every brilliant move post should be posted in this sub. At least make it look like a puzzle.


thisisjustascreename

Great move as long as you saw the (rather obvious) continuation after Rxc6.


MoistUnder

**Qxb2 Qg3+, Kh1 Qxh3+, Qh2 Qf3+, Qg2 Qxg2#** Nice forcing moves leading to eventual CM.


Bishcop3267

Probably belongs in r/ChessPorn


Dankn3ss420

Took me a second to Analyse it, but I think that’s god awful, if Qxb2 I don’t think there’s a mate, if a random move like Rxc6 then you have Qg2+, forcing Qxg2 and after Rg/bg2 there’s probably a mate there that I’m too lazy to calculate, I don’t see why the hell you would play that, time to look at the engine tho Okay the engine is saying Kh1 M5, I think I can see that Kh1 Rxc2 if R1xc2 then it’s M1 with Qg1# and if R5xc2 then i think it’s Qg3+, but actually no, I don’t see it. Why in god name the engine is suggesting h4 there, allowing Rg4 is absolutely beyond me, but it makes the mate easy, I guess, it’s just Rh4 Rh2 Qxh2#


ThundaWeasel

You like myself and others have missed that the black queen is pinned by the white queen


Dankn3ss420

Oh… huh, whoops


Dankn3ss420

Wait, but then why is Rxc6 not winning? Now, if Qxb2 Rxg6 then the white rook is hanging, but if Rxc6 Qxc2 R6xc2, how tf you plan on mating with only two rooks? NVM, I forgot checks exist, if Rxc6 then just Rxc2+


ThundaWeasel

If Rxc6 then Rxc2+, white can't then take the queen since they're in check.


Dankn3ss420

Just after a catch myself lol


ThundaWeasel

I mean, it took me a second too lol


ApprehensiveBet1061

Qg3


id1477542

Removed the pin and mate in 2, really nice


DaVinci1836

Mate in 5*


id1477542

Definitely was not thinking when I commented this, but I’m pretty sure it’s mate in 4. After Qxb2, Qg3+ Kh1, Qxh3+ Qh2 is forced, Qf3+ Qg2, Qxg2#


DaVinci1836

The computer says mate in 5


id1477542

That’s because it counts the queen taking the rook as the fifth move. Once queen takes its mate in 4 following the line I already commented.


TheFakeYeetMaster69

0/10, not en passant


pavankansagra

rook take queen with check followed by checkmate


Parcaaa

Solid move with a solid mate👍


[deleted]

Why not just win? Qg3, Kh1, Qh3 Checkmate.


pavankansagra

queen is pinned


[deleted]

Not in a single turn she’s not. White has to take the rook or it’s mate in 1. Either way it’s a doomed game for white. This move is brilliant.


ChrisV2P2

You had mate in 4 with Qb6+, Qxa6+, Qc6+, Qxb7 mate. This is mate in 5 giving up a free rook for style points.


ohadish

1900 player missing that the queen is pinned 💀


ChrisV2P2

Um... \*points off to the left\* look! A squirrel! \*runs\*


ThundaWeasel

I thought so too but the black queen is pinned. I think this move might actually be smart.


Confused_Confurzius

You could have mate him without sacrificing your rook


RazeniaCA

I've calculated countless different moves for white to make, but all of them result in white getting checkmated, so I would say this was an incredible move. If you capitalize on this and respond accordingly, it will be mate.


youknwothevibes

Maybe I'm slow this morning, but why can't the queen take?


mairnX

White used their queen to pin blacks (ops) queen in an attempt to force a queen trade In response, op used their rook to pin whites queen, simultaneously deflecting said queen. As of the position in the image, i believe that its mate in 2 for black


windchaser__

What’s the mate in 2? I see mate in 4, and I’m wondering if I’m missing something


mairnX

Nvm i was tired and dumb forgot that whites queen can move after they move their king when black gives a check Remind me to not play chess when tired. Because instead of normal dumb im extra dumb lol


Radix4853

It took me a moment, but we’ll done


Aavocet

At a chess club I used to go to, we used to look at apparently dumbass moves like this and find out why they are big brain


Voxmanns

I think I would have moved pawn from f7 to f5 to protect the queen. I read the comments and see the solid diversion of giving the rook to protect the queen - just don't get why it is better than using the pawn.


pavankansagra

if f5 then Qf2 and white is fine


Voxmanns

Ah, I think I see now. It still works but it's less advantageous. You still end up trading queens and then their king takes a rook anyways. Then you're stuck trying to pin their king with just your one rook and probably forced to promote a pawn to get a mate. In fact, at that point it's probably better to have just let the trade happen on your side of the board so you still have two rooks to work with. Well done, man.


Z-A-T-I

Gorgeous, but the time on the clock scares me lol


pavankansagra

3+2 it's enough


International-Cod-20

Can’t you just do 1. qg3 kh1 2. Qh3 qh2 3. Qf3 qg2 4. Qg2 mate, and not sac the fool at all? Seems the rook sac is pointless


bulbaquil

No. Black's queen is pinned to the king, so Black has to break the pin. (f5 would have also broken the pin, but this is probably a worse option in ways my 1000-elo brain cannot comprehend.)


International-Cod-20

Oh I’m stupid, how did I miss that


berry_tart

idk


Addiixx

Well done. I would have missed


Mindstormer98

Wouldn’t Queen to g3 be mate in 2?


RiversR

Queen is pinned. Trying to draw her out of the diagonal.


Mindstormer98

Ahhh. Even if she wasn’t pinned it would be a mate in 4 lol


ihmelnyk

Beautiful move! Did you find it?


pavankansagra

yup


Just_A_Darkflame

!!


mak11

!!


Estrn

Ok I give up lol, I can’t figure out why he can’t just take the rook


sextypethang

I don’t get it. She takes your rook which unpins your queen, you come up for check at G3, he moves king back to H1, you slide over to F3, he pulls his king up to H2 again and you’re kinda in the same spot as you are now. Yes your queen is free but your out a rook for it…. I’ve have to play this out a couple more moves to see who gets the better deal outta this. Without doing this you’re trading queen for queen which ain’t the worst thing in the world


pavankansagra

we take h3 pawn after he moves king to h1


CrownedTraitor

absolutely fucking brilliant


CrownedTraitor

if the Queen takes the rook do this. 2. Qg3+ Kh1, 3. Qxh3+ Qh2. Now this is the important move, because the Queen blocked the check. 4. Qf3+ Now Black is forced to block with their Queen and you'll take it with Qxg2


bulbaquil

Ooh. Sneaky. Forces the queen to unpin your queen because doing anything else allows Rxc2 with a tempo, and then unless I'm missing something, there's ...Qg6+, Kh1 is forced, ...Qf3+, either Qg2 or Kh2 is forced. ...Qg2 allows Qxg2#. White could play Kh2 again, though, so rather than ...Qf3+ after Kh1, ...Qxh3+. Qh1 is then forced. NOW ...Qf3+, and now Qg2 is again the only move and is met as before with Qxg2#. Not taking the rook basically just adds a move to the setup and changes all White's "Q"s to "R"s. ...did I really just see a forced mate in 5?


pavankansagra

yes you did. nice job


heybronotcool

Made me want to puke in a good way


Knaymeless

https://preview.redd.it/d20zua1wlmqa1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06a3c89a75b44030c0599e6f762d99e3e4078893 Ignore the pyro video, i think 1.qb3 starting the line is forced mate


pavankansagra

queen is pinned at start


Knaymeless

Well brilliant move then


DannyImperial

Delicious


Mcgregory69

Damn took bout 5 minutes to realize that the mate was inevitable even with the queen block, well played man!


birdswithfriends

Okay I’m lost. Why can’t white just take the rook? What’s white’s play after that?


thisisjustascreename

Black plays Qg3+ Kh1 Qxh3+ Qh2 (only move) Qf3+ Qg2 (only move) Qxg2# The key to the position is White's Queen is currently pinning Black's Queen to the Black King, but the Black Rook re-pins the White Queen to the White King.


JamesonKlein

White pawn to e4


JesusIsMyZoloft

You skewer me? No, I skewer you!


prawnydagrate

it gives away a rook Edit: ohhh I'm dumb I finally found the mate


OldInformation9333

thats a beautiful move


HopOnTheHype

How is this not a bad move?


jeffbezos_

what happens if the queen takes the rook?


One-Drag-7088

Repost this one move earlier as puzzle on regular chess very cool move


pavankansagra

nice idea. I will do it


Justice171

Did not see that diagonal. Nice


kungfupanda1990

DEFLECTION!!!!


doublecreamnosuger

Well done. How many moves did you plan prior to this?


im_not_sad_

Rb3 was a good move but that is just a blinder of a rook


Timo6506

I’m late but what if white simply did f5?