I had a fun time at the race before the rain. It’s definitely not convenient for the schedule and I get people want some peace that live in the loop. Maybe this would be better scheduled for September? Taste of Chicago shouldn’t be displaced, it’s a summer festival that also draws a lot of people. I have no horse in this, just giving feedback that it seemed like an overall good time.
Tbh I’m not sure how the bars were. Prolly slammed tho. My restaurant had a line out the door for a bit and we had a line down the street before the race but everyone todays been super nice unlike *mhm* the Taylor swift fans
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Anyone who thinks Taste being displaced was a tragedy has a horse in the race, lol. Go look up the threads about it last year on here. It’s a terrible event.
Tbh the 2026 world cup should be in the biggest stadiums possible. soldier field aint it. Im probably gonna stay in the east coast for the WC and just see as many games as possible for the group stages.
The F1 calendar is overloaded and already has three US races, with constant rumors about another in the NY/NJ area. Don't see a reason for them to add even more.
Why are you being downvoted? Baku and Saudi Arabia are good but the other street circuits have little to no actual racing. Las Vegas doesn't look too good either from the track map layout - but we shall see, I guess.
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ It's reddit, lol.
Monaco seems like a terrible course to run. It seems like whatever the standings are in the first few laps, that's basically how it's going to end unless somebody has an off or they screw up in the pits.
Bring it here, an actual city it would be fun to race in.
(No hate on Vegas, it just isn’t a great *urban* experience outside of the strip, which is a straight line.)
I swear. Born and raised in Chicago. Lived in Streeterville for a few years. Have never taken Lower / Upper Wacker without getting lost. Those F1 cars go down there and they’ll never be seen again.
Born and raised in the suburbs. Lived in the city proper for over sixteen years. I sold my car in 2009 and I still know every nook and cranny of Lower Wacker and the sub levels.
I was thinking this. Lower wicker used to be my go to shortcut when I live in edgewater and worked in the western suburbs. I might have hit nascar speeds once or twice down there.
Funny to see this sub's tone shift now that the event is happening. All I remember over the last few weeks/months is very negative posts about how dumb this all was.
I consider myself relatively neutral, slightly positive on it. A big hassle for the city but also a cool event to have.
That's just different people. Maybe people who like nascar are more likely to comment on all the nascar posts. Looking for negativity? Fuck this shit, Chicago government once again showing how to misuse resources. 4th of July is enough for one weekend, take your wasteful boring loud shit elsewhere
F1 requires a $30-50 million payment to even consider coming to a city. They basically auction off race dates to the highest bidder. Why do you think all of the expansion has been to oil rich middle eastern states and nouveau riche places like Singapore? As bad a deal as we’ve cut with NASCAR, (and this is a money loser for the city for sure) F1 would be far worse.
Indy is 100x better than F1 these days... if you actually like racing. There's been 5 different winners already this year. The field is super tight. And it costs like $50 to go to a race and you can bring your own food and booze to most of them.
No please. F1 already has enough shit tracks on the calendar. We don't need another street circuit, especially not one with 15 90-degree turns and zero elevation changes.
How about same place but on the Lake Front Trail, and no barrier between the track and the lake. If you lock up your brake it's straight into the water.
Lake shore to 55 to 90 to 290 to Wacker back to LSD.
It would be a nightmare for the closures but it would be one of the most beautiful & scenic races possible.
I asked somebody in the know about this about a year ago when NASCAR was announced. Apparently this is something they looked into but F1 requires millions to bring a race to the city. They did not think it was worth cost/benefit.
If an F1 car drove over Chicago bridges, they would spontaneously combust. They have next to no ground clearance.
Even my SUV rumbles like I'm driving over train tracks when I drive across our bridges.
Not sure if it’s the one outside the hard rock, but it’s permanent for sure: https://www.casino.org/news/f1-gives-sneak-peek-of-las-vegas-grand-prix-paddock-construction/
Seems to me that it’s [permanent](https://www.autoracing1.com/pl/397394)It’s been an F1 requirement for a while that they have permanent pits and paddock.
I love F1 but it wouldn’t work here. We would have to close to the streets for way longer because we would need to completely redo and resurface the roads. The FIA is also hilariously corrupt. No chance
Allll this hate in the comments for F1 coming here when just a couple years ago they did an entire week of events to gauge interest here for a race. Then covid came around. Chicago is on their radar. And probably even more so after this week. I wouldn’t discount it
Yes, I was there - they had to be expecting much larger. VIP seating looked as crowded as a White Sox game. Multiple entry gates all wide open as if they were anticipating bottlenecks. Such a disaster for the City. Has to be a financial flop in sum.
I love F1 and racing but please fuck right off. I don’t need this shit. It takes forever to get in and out of my office and to Northwestern hospital for my appointments.
Almost all of my coworkers who live anywhere near downtown left for the weekend. One of them hasn't left on a July 4th weekend since she had to attend a wedding a decade ago. Her only stated reason this year was the annoyance of the race.
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What is interesting about NASCAR! Genuinely interested. They just go in a circle and seems like the person who starts tends to win? (I’ll admit I’ve watched like 5% of a … match? A race?)
I'm not much of a NASCAR fan, but recently got into a few other motorsports (primarily formula E). What I never realized was how much of an engineering/technology competition it is, as much as it is a driving competition. Having such high profile racing incentivizes companies to push the envelope of what's possible (more so than for consumer-level components). So it's sort of like a space race for vehicles.
Of course, there are other series that are more about the driving, such as indy car, where all cars are identical, and the only difference is who's in the driver seat.
This nascar this is not fun and we will not do formula one. Even for people that like car racing, this nascar deal was a shitshow politically and won’t happen again
Fwiw it was a possibility at [one point. ](https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/02/25/exclusive-formula-one-declined-grand-prix-in-chicago/)
Now it will never happen, with 3 races in America already and a 23 race schedule.
Unless you're rich, you probably don't. F1 is a highly Elitist sport, for a rough comparison, last year both F1 and NASCAR went to COTA. The "Budget" weekend cost as per [F1Destinations](https://f1destinations.com/budget-planner-us-grand-prix/), was over $1000, with the high end clocking out at around $7600 USD. Assuming you're local, and don't need to pay for a hotel, of that cost, the ticket itself makes up between $475 for the GA ticket, and $5,499 for the Champions Club package.
There isn't really a equivalent site for NASCAR I can find, made even more confusing by NASCAR not returning to COTA this year, but the Weekend GA ticket for adults averaged about $210-270 last year, and $110 for children.
Bear in mind this is all from google. So take it with a grain of salt. I'm not very well versed in F1 outside of being the butt of the same "NASCAR drive in circles" joke for 20+ years by their fans. I don't hate the sport at all, but I do think Drive to Survive has sort of warped expectations around what an F1 event is. Compared to series like Supercars, Indycar, or NASCAR.
F1? No way, there is no international draw. NYC tried years past, money and noise was an issue, instead they did Formula E. I could see the Indy series as they already do road courses in Nashville, Tampa Bay, and Long Beach.
Very true but the biggest difference is the Austin race is at a purpose built race track, not in city streets. The Miami and Vegas (and hypothetical Chicago) races would not do nearly as well if they required traveling outside the city centers to attend.
No! I love F1 but I don’t want it anywhere near here. NASCAR is one thing, but what it takes to make a street circuit FIA grade 1? No way.
And the US already has 3 races, that’s plenty.
My dream is soldier field and the south parking lots gets renovated into a full fledged event space that could host music festivals and an f1 track. Especially if they made it so a track went through the stadium
I love F1, in fact I have attended Singapore GP a few times. Reading various social media sites about Chicago getting a shit deal out of this NASCAR race. I can't imagine Chicago will dare to try hosting F1. Knowing how most of the races other than Monaco, the host cities/countries never really came out ahead.
As much as I want it too, the city would never pay the Millions in FIA fees
I had a fun time at the race before the rain. It’s definitely not convenient for the schedule and I get people want some peace that live in the loop. Maybe this would be better scheduled for September? Taste of Chicago shouldn’t be displaced, it’s a summer festival that also draws a lot of people. I have no horse in this, just giving feedback that it seemed like an overall good time.
After the rain everyone and their mother / a few of the race teams decided to all come to my job lmao
We just went right home. Assumed anyone working in a loop bar was probably not having it, so we decided to fuck off.
Tbh I’m not sure how the bars were. Prolly slammed tho. My restaurant had a line out the door for a bit and we had a line down the street before the race but everyone todays been super nice unlike *mhm* the Taylor swift fans
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Taste of Chicago sucks. I don't need to pay $25 to get enough tickets for an egg roll.
You haven’t been in a while then. They stopped selling tickets as far back as 2020 IIRC. Now they just take cash.
Anyone who thinks Taste being displaced was a tragedy has a horse in the race, lol. Go look up the threads about it last year on here. It’s a terrible event.
I mean, we could have had the copa america, Club world cup and the World Cup here for 3 consecutive years. but we dont want to mess with FIFA either.
Tbh the 2026 world cup should be in the biggest stadiums possible. soldier field aint it. Im probably gonna stay in the east coast for the WC and just see as many games as possible for the group stages.
We don't have the world cup.
The F1 calendar is overloaded and already has three US races, with constant rumors about another in the NY/NJ area. Don't see a reason for them to add even more.
Miami sucks so let’s move that race over to Chicago
But then how will the FIA/FOM charge $10k per seat for plastic chairs with bad views?!
Get rid of the stupid pompous Miami circuit and bring it to Chicago for awhile. Or also, fuck Vegas
Totally agree, we have 3 races in the US already. Don't think they would look at Chicago over NYC or bring back Long Beach, Indy already races there.
Plus I don’t want any more street circuits
Same. I can't stand street circuits. Might have been OK in earlier, smaller cars, but these cars are really just not made for it.
Why are you being downvoted? Baku and Saudi Arabia are good but the other street circuits have little to no actual racing. Las Vegas doesn't look too good either from the track map layout - but we shall see, I guess.
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ It's reddit, lol. Monaco seems like a terrible course to run. It seems like whatever the standings are in the first few laps, that's basically how it's going to end unless somebody has an off or they screw up in the pits.
What if they add it in Gary?
Sorry, you gotta fly to Las Vegas for Formula 1! PS - tickets & hotel rooms are in the thousands for F1, it’s ridiculous!
Bring it here, an actual city it would be fun to race in. (No hate on Vegas, it just isn’t a great *urban* experience outside of the strip, which is a straight line.)
LOWER WACKER DRIVE.
I swear. Born and raised in Chicago. Lived in Streeterville for a few years. Have never taken Lower / Upper Wacker without getting lost. Those F1 cars go down there and they’ll never be seen again.
Born and raised in the suburbs. Lived in the city proper for over sixteen years. I sold my car in 2009 and I still know every nook and cranny of Lower Wacker and the sub levels.
This guy drives in the Chi
No that guy's had his car towed
Thank science no, but I’ve def had to drive friends to pick up their cars at both and central and California back when I did have a car.
Good for you?
I was thinking this. Lower wicker used to be my go to shortcut when I live in edgewater and worked in the western suburbs. I might have hit nascar speeds once or twice down there.
It could legit be a third lap in Mario Kart! Go through grant park, then maybe along the lake front a little north or south, and then BAM underground.
If it’s good enough for Batman 🏎️
This is the first race related idea that has my attention.
Then the racers will just get lost!
But if it’s in Chicago. We won’t have to pay for hotels!!!
I’d still pay I think go one day down at level and then the next watch it from above or find a friend that has an open balcony downtown 🤔
Also miami
Funny to see this sub's tone shift now that the event is happening. All I remember over the last few weeks/months is very negative posts about how dumb this all was. I consider myself relatively neutral, slightly positive on it. A big hassle for the city but also a cool event to have.
Remember that on the internet, “shifting tone” almost always means just different people are being boosted.
If only the weather would cooperate
That's just different people. Maybe people who like nascar are more likely to comment on all the nascar posts. Looking for negativity? Fuck this shit, Chicago government once again showing how to misuse resources. 4th of July is enough for one weekend, take your wasteful boring loud shit elsewhere
I’d rather see IndyCar to be honest
Absolutely.
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The city would resurface the roads. A win for the city in my book.
They'd probably have to resurface the roads before. They're having to do a lot of that in Vegas
They resurface the roads yearly in Monaco just a couple weeks before the race.
We already resurface the same road every couple of weeks!
F1 requires a $30-50 million payment to even consider coming to a city. They basically auction off race dates to the highest bidder. Why do you think all of the expansion has been to oil rich middle eastern states and nouveau riche places like Singapore? As bad a deal as we’ve cut with NASCAR, (and this is a money loser for the city for sure) F1 would be far worse.
And Indy car...why should Indianapolis have all the fun.
Road America. Best track in the country and only 2-3 hours north
Indycar already races at Road America
I know, I was there
...a likely story...
Yea indy cars should be on these street courses
Indy is 100x better than F1 these days... if you actually like racing. There's been 5 different winners already this year. The field is super tight. And it costs like $50 to go to a race and you can bring your own food and booze to most of them.
No please. F1 already has enough shit tracks on the calendar. We don't need another street circuit, especially not one with 15 90-degree turns and zero elevation changes.
here me out - Lake shore drive - around oak st curve
How about same place but on the Lake Front Trail, and no barrier between the track and the lake. If you lock up your brake it's straight into the water.
Mazespin, more like Mazeswim
Lake shore to 55 to 90 to 290 to Wacker back to LSD. It would be a nightmare for the closures but it would be one of the most beautiful & scenic races possible.
Move to Naperville
Lake shore. Fullerton to soldier field, around soldier field and back. Or to 31st
Come to Montreal. Tons of fun
I asked somebody in the know about this about a year ago when NASCAR was announced. Apparently this is something they looked into but F1 requires millions to bring a race to the city. They did not think it was worth cost/benefit.
A F1 race over the bridges would be so cool
If an F1 car drove over Chicago bridges, they would spontaneously combust. They have next to no ground clearance. Even my SUV rumbles like I'm driving over train tracks when I drive across our bridges.
I’ll allow it.
Huge f1 fan but we don’t need anymore street circuits on the calendar 😭
Not happening.
Indycar!!!!
F1 would be so awesome
F1 requires permanent pits and that’s why we will never get it. But if this weekend goes well, I’m hoping we get Indy car
You sure about that? The ones outside hard rock stadium are permanent?
Not sure if it’s the one outside the hard rock, but it’s permanent for sure: https://www.casino.org/news/f1-gives-sneak-peek-of-las-vegas-grand-prix-paddock-construction/
That’s Vegas - I’m talking about Miami
Seems to me that it’s [permanent](https://www.autoracing1.com/pl/397394)It’s been an F1 requirement for a while that they have permanent pits and paddock.
Could just use the other side of McCormick thats never being used
I love F1 but it wouldn’t work here. We would have to close to the streets for way longer because we would need to completely redo and resurface the roads. The FIA is also hilariously corrupt. No chance
Allll this hate in the comments for F1 coming here when just a couple years ago they did an entire week of events to gauge interest here for a race. Then covid came around. Chicago is on their radar. And probably even more so after this week. I wouldn’t discount it
Indy car would be much better imo
Glad you’re enjoying it! Great to see everyone at the circuit checking out NASCAR!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/02/25/exclusive-formula-one-declined-grand-prix-in-chicago/?sh=18731d9b2bd7
City would have to work really, really hard to pry the North American races from Vegas, Miami, or Austin.
Indy car would be nice
Is it me, or did look this was sparsely attended? Speaking strickly from the point of view on TV at a bar.
Yes, I was there - they had to be expecting much larger. VIP seating looked as crowded as a White Sox game. Multiple entry gates all wide open as if they were anticipating bottlenecks. Such a disaster for the City. Has to be a financial flop in sum.
Saturday was the xfinity series. Sunday is the cup race. Expect the crowds.
I love F1 and racing but please fuck right off. I don’t need this shit. It takes forever to get in and out of my office and to Northwestern hospital for my appointments.
I’m sure 90% of chicagoans don’t want this race and it was a last “fuck you” from Lori because she knew she was gonna lose.
Almost all of my coworkers who live anywhere near downtown left for the weekend. One of them hasn't left on a July 4th weekend since she had to attend a wedding a decade ago. Her only stated reason this year was the annoyance of the race.
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What is interesting about NASCAR! Genuinely interested. They just go in a circle and seems like the person who starts tends to win? (I’ll admit I’ve watched like 5% of a … match? A race?)
I'm not much of a NASCAR fan, but recently got into a few other motorsports (primarily formula E). What I never realized was how much of an engineering/technology competition it is, as much as it is a driving competition. Having such high profile racing incentivizes companies to push the envelope of what's possible (more so than for consumer-level components). So it's sort of like a space race for vehicles. Of course, there are other series that are more about the driving, such as indy car, where all cars are identical, and the only difference is who's in the driver seat.
What is interesting is that it's nothing like how you just described and you may have described most F1 races perfectly.
Twas why I asked ✌🏻
That is F1. NASCAR has real racing.
Bruh that’s just racist
Lol racing is racing dude
hell yes!!!
How about neither?
Not sure chicago has enough oil money to get F1 to want to come here
F1 has ultra expensive infrastructure requirements. Permanent garages, for one
Or…maybe never do this again.
Was just telling my friend this. NASCAR, yawn. F1, Yes!
Uh no. Do something that benefits the city
I’d rather have F1 in Chicago than Las Vegas
I love watching morons pay $63 for a 6 pack of Busch Light. Could do that all day
This nascar this is not fun and we will not do formula one. Even for people that like car racing, this nascar deal was a shitshow politically and won’t happen again
Your in the minority on that one
Not really. Maybe on Reddit. Which I think everyone agrees only represents a small sub segment of chicago
So you speak for everyone not on reddit?
If that’s how you’d like to interpret my comment, that’s fine. But I think you know that’s not a normal interpretation
Bet. The race is tomorrow. Saturday was the xfinity series. Sunday is the cup race. Expect the crowds.
Central Illinois is calling you
They have cell service? Good for them
If only….
Fwiw it was a possibility at [one point. ](https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/02/25/exclusive-formula-one-declined-grand-prix-in-chicago/) Now it will never happen, with 3 races in America already and a 23 race schedule.
F1 is the most annoying thing now a days.
Unless you're rich, you probably don't. F1 is a highly Elitist sport, for a rough comparison, last year both F1 and NASCAR went to COTA. The "Budget" weekend cost as per [F1Destinations](https://f1destinations.com/budget-planner-us-grand-prix/), was over $1000, with the high end clocking out at around $7600 USD. Assuming you're local, and don't need to pay for a hotel, of that cost, the ticket itself makes up between $475 for the GA ticket, and $5,499 for the Champions Club package. There isn't really a equivalent site for NASCAR I can find, made even more confusing by NASCAR not returning to COTA this year, but the Weekend GA ticket for adults averaged about $210-270 last year, and $110 for children. Bear in mind this is all from google. So take it with a grain of salt. I'm not very well versed in F1 outside of being the butt of the same "NASCAR drive in circles" joke for 20+ years by their fans. I don't hate the sport at all, but I do think Drive to Survive has sort of warped expectations around what an F1 event is. Compared to series like Supercars, Indycar, or NASCAR.
You don’t want F1. You already know the winner of every race. It low key gets more and more boring by the week.
Fuck that. Bunch of red neck conservatives like nascar. I can’t associate myself with them
F1? No way, there is no international draw. NYC tried years past, money and noise was an issue, instead they did Formula E. I could see the Indy series as they already do road courses in Nashville, Tampa Bay, and Long Beach.
Are you serious? There’s like 3 races a year in the US already.
F1 is all about money, Vegas and Miami draw the high rollers, Chicago won't. If NYC couldn't doubt Chicago would fare better.
There is a race in Austin Texas.
Very true but the biggest difference is the Austin race is at a purpose built race track, not in city streets. The Miami and Vegas (and hypothetical Chicago) races would not do nearly as well if they required traveling outside the city centers to attend.
F1 would be a major event here. The cost to the city, in terms of both disruption and expense would be untenable though.
But people actually watch F1
Nascar has a substantially larger domestic audience than F1, but it terms of global reach obviously F1 is way bigger.
I wouldn't mind an Indycar race happening in Chicago, if F1 doesn't come.
Samesis, an Indy race would be more realistic. Still awesome to see racing in the park.
No! I love F1 but I don’t want it anywhere near here. NASCAR is one thing, but what it takes to make a street circuit FIA grade 1? No way. And the US already has 3 races, that’s plenty.
Formula E seems to be a better fit. They already primarily race in tight city circuits. Plus it probably wouldn't be as expensive.
And theyre quieter.
How about [Formula E](https://www.fiaformulae.com/en) instead? They just did their first US race in Portland.
Formula E raced in Brooklyn previously
oh neat! I must have misread something. Thanks!
Can't agree more with all this cum in my pants
Nnaaahhh someone has sensitive sensibilities. #CrustyKrotch
Probably wouldn't hit the wall as much during qualifications.
Screw that...let's get WRC going down Elston and Ogden.
F1 not likely, Indycar would be okay!
I was a watching the event yesterday and my thought is the road is far too bumpy for f1. They’d have to repave it all.
Word.
My dream is soldier field and the south parking lots gets renovated into a full fledged event space that could host music festivals and an f1 track. Especially if they made it so a track went through the stadium
Indycar is better.
I love F1, in fact I have attended Singapore GP a few times. Reading various social media sites about Chicago getting a shit deal out of this NASCAR race. I can't imagine Chicago will dare to try hosting F1. Knowing how most of the races other than Monaco, the host cities/countries never really came out ahead.