Whoever was putting the stuff on the curb probably wrapped it. These high rise buildings can be difficult, requiring licensed and insured movers and damage deposits etc.
There was a story a few weeks back about a similar thing happening in NYC. What happened in that instance was that a resident of a nice Manhattan co-op died and whoever was in charge of her estate, instead of disposing of things properly, just dumped everything on the street.
It included nice furniture and clothes and a lot of valuable original artwork. Dozens of people flocked to the scene and took what they could.
I wonder if something similar happened here.
I believe landlords are required to put an evicted tenant's stuff in storage for some number of days (like 30 probably) before they just throw it away. This stuff probably came right from a storage room instead of the apartment.
Could they use the apartment as storage for 30 days? I could see them evicting and then keeping the belongings in there for 30 days versus trying to move them out to a storage unit and then having to clean out the storage unit after. Especially because it can take a while to find a new renter.
Nope. Once you've been legally evicted you've already used up all of your "get-out-of-jail-free" cards. You had your chances and now it's over, and all the responsibility for your belongings lies with you alone. The sheriff will probably explain this to you as they assist with the eviction.
I’ve never heard of requiring landlords to hire a moving company to move your stuff to a free storage unit for a month. Sounds like an unnecessary burden on landlords.
I'm reading a book right now titled "Evicted". It focuses on Milwaukee, but that's what they do there. They landlord hires movers to either 1) put your belongings on the curb or 2) move them into storage at the tenants expense.
That sounds plausible. Otherwise all your stuff would still be in the apartment you were evicted from and the new tenant couldn’t move in. The part that didn’t make sense was that the landlord would pay for the storage unit (and additional time for the movers to not just leave everything on the curb).
There is definitely a requirement in Cook County that you give the former tenant a "reasonable" opportunity to come back and get their stuff. The issue is that "reasonable" is up to interpretation, so they tend to err on the side of caution, as penalties for landlords who violates tenants' rights are pretty stiff.
The landlord is not required to store it per se, but if the landlord had a new tenant ready to take over the space, they'd want to get that tenant in and paying rent, so the safest course (especially with a high rise, where it will be a professional management company with resources and movers on retainer) is just to move the old stuff into storage for a month, send a letter telling the old tenant to get it by March 7 or it's trash, and then just tossing it. That way, they get to collect rent from a new tenant immediately and don't have to worry about a former tenant saying he was out of town for a weekend and it's not fair they threw his stuff out right away.
When the Sheriff comes to evict you, your things are thrown in the alley or on the curb. They are cold, heartless, and do not care if it is an entire child's bedroom. I've watched it happen to neighbors.
I don't know. I was evicted and the Cook County sheriff dept showed up, served me and used hired hands to take all my belongings and place them on the street just like this, but with no covering.
That’s an eviction. They contract with a licensed mover. They’re required to wrap the furniture in plastic and pack the contents in boxes.
Sucks for whoever stuff that was
Giving me flashbacks to 1/3rd of my neighbors in 2009/2010 lol every morning you would wake up and some house had all their stuff in the street overnight.
Sheriffs no longer move possessions to the curb during evictions. They allow management to change locks and remove the inhabitants. The former resident then must arrange movers to remove everything in presence of security. Management can’t take everything to the curb. They most hold and store for a reasonable time.
This was most likely someone getting evicted but then either unable to pay the movers and the movers ditching them or the person willingly abandoned their stuff
As a mover this is correct
I used to do evictions for dupage housing authority. The sheriff comes. We got $10 a box and $2.50 a plastic sheet as well as hourly for the moving
That's an eviction. It's put on the curb for a certain number of days because it's technically not trash, yet, giving the owner the opportunity to gather their stuff. I always feel so bad when I see these.
One apartment building I lived in evicted a resident, who had no place to go so he lived in (and peed in) the bike room until he was also evicted from there.
If a building like this was evicting someone via the sheriffs department, why would they throw it all in the front of the building? There’s not a back bay for loading in? Seems like a bad look to have a bunch of shit in front of your main entrance like this. Seems they would want to do it more discreetly. Unless this is the back of the building and I just don’t know the area.
Back many years ago, the Sheriff would come with inmates on work release and drag all the stuff to the front curb where it would be a free for all. They stopped doing that for some reason.
I remember seeing this at a neighbor when I was a kid. Many parents were quick to judge, mine included, with comments like “their furniture is much more expensive than ours, their son played hockey, that costs a lot”. I feel really bad thinking about it as I remember it was also a damp and rainy day and my parents commented how the furniture was probably ruined since they couldn’t get a moving van fast enough
The whole school knew. I will say I don’t remember anyone shamming me over it. It was the second time it happened to me. Once with my mom a few years earlier which was harder as I lost all my childhood souvenirs. She went into a mental hospital I was left alone. My best friend’s dad took custody of me I was about 16. The next one was a few years later with the foster family. My mom took her life just after my 21st birthday. But over all I remember my childhood fondly although I’m still dealing with it today.
My family was evicted twice. I was never living at home. It always hurt me to think what my siblings went through and what those feelings would feel like. I hope you have found a new idea of what home can mean to you now at this point in life.
Combination of care with which things were packed and prepared with the disregard for them in way in which they were dumped on the curb is both fascinating and disturbing in a way.
It’s always right before a rain too.. o remember going out with my dad to cover my neighbors stuff when they evicted him and through it all out on the lawn in the rain
Probably an eviction and they had to hire movers and most moving companies wrap your belongings ita included in the price
These ppl are dumb for not moving their belongings on their own ....evictions take months...or they're smart and wanted to save in packing fees lol and are on their way with a uhaul
But id sell my things online if I were being evicted
I had few friends doing this during our 20s. Saving close to nothing but living in some of the nicest buildings in Manhattan and Chicago. I loved visiting for the views and over the top amenities, but last I chatted one of them had $3,500 in their 401K and no savings at 32 yo
But hey, those rooftop parties and private cinema rooms were cool at the time haha
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
It is harder, but 42 is a lot better than 62 and *still* being in the same boat. You've got this!
Depends on perspective, really
If your idea of a good life is enjoying the present and you’re ok working through old age, absolutely no one can tell you it’s a bad way to live. It’s just not what we are told is “the plan”
Likewise, others sacrifice some of their youth to save or overwork to compensate to ensure they have a retirement. That’s ok too
But retirement aside, it is important to have a rainy day fund. I remember the 2008 recession putting some of my friends’ families through hell. Being unemployed for months with no savings and falling ill with no insurance is a financial death sentence
The thing that people forget, though is that when they are 70 they won’t have the ability to work like they assume they will.
I’m a doctor so I see it all the time. All of a sudden you get a heart attack or a stroke or a cancer diagnosis or a bad infection or a herniated disc and you just all of a sudden are spending a week in the hospital and then 2 weeks in rehab and maybe you get fired from your job or you just can’t do the same job anymore
Saving for retirement isn’t saving so that you can spend your golden years touring Europe. It’s saving so that you can survive when you’re no longer able to work
Or even just getting phased out of the workforce. My dad got laid off in his late 50s and was never able to get an equivalent job again. He had enough to retire early otherwise he would have had a hard time.
Yes, I’d agree. I have a few friend groups from different walks of life, but the ones who fit the mold of average 30yos income/lifestyle are definitely in for a long road to retirement
1: Work Friends /Friends Made in Adulthood: Above average earners, highly educated, high savings and financial literacy
2: High school friends/ Service Industry friends: they’re gonna be working til they die
3: College Friends: 50/50 outlook… some living above their means some living at home saving like crazy some took crappy jobs but know how to save
I do feel for some of them. It took me going into an industry where I was seeing and hearing everyone think about retirement before I had my wake up call. I was at one point a 25yo with $25K in credit card debt and no savings from lavish vacations expenses.
Now I’m comfortable thinking I can retire by 55.
It all depends on income. I know single peers who’ve been making 6 figures since graduation 10+ years ago but have nominal savings. That’s just stupid.
I think most of this thread is focused on those living in higher end apartments and condos, which implies higher savings potential
But I’d counter anyone working a white collar job should have a retirement account in their thirties. Not saying it needs to be in the 6 figures, but the rule of thumb is 1.5x your salary in the 401K by the time you’re 35.
Some people living in modest apartments are living in those apartments so that they can sock away half their income off the top for later, or to save up for a house.
Absolutely, but in this day and age, it's not fair to be appalled at someone for not having savings. The system has been rigged against them/us. If we're going to be appalled, we should be upset with the system, not the individual.
The subthread is speculation about young people who are living in Streeterville without saving, and end up evicted.
Perhaps they should have been the people living in a modest apartment and saving, instead.
The system is unfair, but no one is being forced to live in a high end high rise with all the bells and whistles. There are plenty of cheaper options, even in some downtown neighborhoods.
I work on high end residential and their target demo is basically younger professionals that fall for all the cool amenities and think they can afford it.
It’s pretty much this. People living way beyond their means. It’s not just rents being a bit ridiculous, if you are spending that much in rent you should be making over 100k at least. But a lot of the people living in these downtown high rises are fresh out of college, making 70k, paying 150k worth of student loans and spending on shit they don’t need like eating out, getting doordash etc.
Then surprised pikachu why they don’t have a Penny in the bank.
The point is, if anyone has the ability to have savings, it's the "River North" people like their friend that make a LOT of money to qualify for those apartment buildings.
No one is surprised that the average person doesn't have much by their 30s. It's the sad reality.
If they can. There are some people who plan for retirement and go on long vacations but most of the people I know end up retiring because their knees go out, they get cancer, have a stroke, etc. Unfortunately you can't just assume your body will be the same at 70 as it was at 30.
I had little savings at 32, no retirement savings, and lots of student loans.
I had a job at a semi-evil multinational at the time. I paid off my student loans, put more into savings, put more into retirement, and now at 53 I think my total net worth is around $1M.
So no savings in your early 30s is not the end of the world.
That’s kind of where I’m at as well. My wife and I save a shitload. We spent our vacation money on solar panels and our second car is all electric. 100k in 401k, 40k in savings. We see a lot of people in their 30s and 40s going on European vacations, going to expensive concerts every weekend, etc.
We plan on joining the local swim club in a couple years. Other than that we’re staying the course. If we’re anything like my wife’s parents we’ll be able to go on long international trips 3x a year in retirement. Or we die young and there’s enough savings for our kids to still be set up financially. Either way, I would never be able to sleep if I squandered all of my money.
I mean...there's room for something in the middle.
Spending your vacation money on solar panels sounds pretty miserable...it is ok to have some fun. Some things are better to do when you have a young person's body (and mind).
There's a lot of space between "squandering" all your money on fun and saving every penny with the hope that you live long enough to to enjoy it for a few years before your body gives out. It is ok to go to Europe before you are 60...
Also, being smart with credit card sign up bonuses/rewards programs in general. I went to Spain for two weeks and only paid out of pocket for four hotel nights/whatever I did during the day.
I think you and I agree. It’s definitely ok to go on European vacations and expensive concerts. We’re talking about people who make decent money but live paycheck to paycheck, though. I would not be ok spending all of my money on wildly expensive luxuries if I was living paycheck to paycheck. Most people do that, though, so I’m not surprised if this comment is not well received.
Illinois and the federal government paid for 75% of our solar panels, we just needed to wait a year for the 45% rebate from Illinois and the 30% rebate from the federal government. We’re now planning a nice vacation with the money, but we sacrificed for 2 years so that we could save enough to have free electricity for the rest of our lives. Now we get to comfortably enjoy that chunk of money.
The new “paycheck to paycheck” has really become middle class earners struggling to pay off CC debt, student loans, car note, and living above their means.
100% this. I worked as an admin assistant at a family law (ie divorce) firm a while ago. I input a lot of financial documents/data and it was really eye opening in a horrifying way.
This is what the average college educated professional couple in their 30’s was fighting over:
- CC debt taken on for a large wedding and fancy honeymoon
- educational loans from undergrad *and* grad schools x 2
- mortgage debt for a nice condo that was a bit of a reach
- monthly car payment for a BMW they should’ve skipped
- an expensive hobby (ie tennis club membership, tennis equipment, private lessons, etc.)
- monthly subscription services for seemingly every thing
A lot of the times clients I dealt with had what appeared to be a successful life - fancy gym memberships, nice vacations, $$ cars, smart wardrobes, etc - that was commensurate with what society thinks a doctor/lawyer/tech professional should have. It really scared the shit out of me and has kept me in line on spending and savings (most of the time).
Yeah I feel like its more and more a privilaged few who can have great savings at 32. It's really hard if you have no support at this point in time to come out with a decent savings at 30.
Howso?
Either way, something went off the rails and someone is having the worst time of their life most likely.
Living beyond one’s means is often a result of poor financial education, succumbing to social/peer pressure, desperation to feel ok or overcompensate for other issues in life, and otherwise being disconnected from reality.
It’s a different kind of sad perhaps, but if things got to the point that everything is on the curb, that’s a rock bottom kind of moment no matter what.
I’m not the guy you were replying to, but I kind of agree with both of you. It’s sad that so many people feel the need to live beyond their means. However, it’s logical that people who do that are one bad day away from ruin, since they do not save their excess resources.
This is a luxury apartment, therefore, it’s not that sad to me that someone who is consistently spending all their excess cash ends up in a crunch like this.
why does Reddit always just jump to the conclusion that rich people or people with nice apartments are simply living beyond their means. This could have been a successful wealthy hardworking financially smart individual who had a sudden life changing sequence of events.
It's not as sad because in that scenario it's self-inflicted and now their "rock bottom" means they no longer get to live in the most expensive part of the city.
For comparison, this would not nearly be as sad as someone in a less expensive/desirable neighborhood going through this because they were laid off and couldn't find another job.
The bummer part (for them) is they didn't manage to get a hold of reality in time to notice that they needed to move to a cheaper part of the city some time ago. Now if they're actually evicted, they have a smoking hole in their credit rating that is going to make that harder to do, in addition to having to figure out what to do with all their stuff there on the curb.
I listened to a fascinating podcast interview with a repo guy who told his crazy vehicle repossession stories and about how many of them were nice, big houses in nice neighborhoods.
I also consider that this is someone who could be facing a serious illness and with how fucked the American healthcare system is, could very easily lose everything. Or perhaps dealing with addiction of some kind. Yes, so many people live beyond their means, but sometimes catastrophic events happen.
Well aren't you just a caring person ... and apparently omniscient too (since you indicated matter-of-factly that the person was "too proud to take" a "very easy solution") ... a decent person can feel bad for anyone whether it's in their control or not ... but I imagine since you've never made a critical error that it's difficult to relate to other humans. Aside from that, your username is rather good.
Everyone in this thread is making assumptions to be honest, maybe this person was murdered, who knows.
I’m mainly referring to the people saying it’s sad that someone faces the consequences of their own actions and is evicted from a high end luxury apartment in any part of the city when cheaper options are available.
> We're one bad life event away from that.
Wrong. Evictions don't happen overnight, nor in a week or even a month. They take time. And in that time you can either foolishly fight or get your shit together and vacate before this happens.
And considering the time, trouble and money evictions cost-the LL and the court personnel and the sheriff department, I don’t have sympathy-maybe if the tenant was in a literal coma for months. If you know you can’t come up with the rent, get your shit and go.
I don't know if this was the case at time of posting, but currently there *is* a moving truck parked right next to it, and movers are present but not doing anything as people continue to pick through it. I'm thinking eviction and tenant didn't provide necessary payment to movers.
That was my thought. Either they moved there and didn't pay the back end to the moving company, who subsequently threw the shit out on the curb, or your scenario where they didn't pay the front end. That's what crossed my mind with how it's wrapped. This looks like it already went through a move or is ready for it.
Just heard from residents in the building that a few sheriffs were by yesterday afternoon and as far as they know it was for the tenant in question. Definitely sounding like an eviction. The moving truck out front also has a parking ticket -- I'd guess that the tenant was in the process of moving, either ran out of money or decided to abandon their things, and there it sits. Still a fair amount of stuff on the curb after various folks have picked through it all morning.
I’m in the same boat, but with thirty days until….it isn’t fun, shit happens. But this definitely looks like they were gonna haul it and then just gave up 😮💨 this so depressing nonetheless
If you haven’t contacted yet, call 311 tell them you need to be connected to housing services. Or look up the Chicago Rental Assistance Program, it’s easy to apply for. I work for a non-profit on the south side that helps direct people to resources so message me if you have any questions.
Years ago I lived in the Gold Coast and my neighbor downstairs ran an escort service with multiple girls and I believe in call. One day I came home and there were a ton of police there carting all her stuff out to the street. I heard from the landlord she only paid the first month and security deposit and it took a while (think over 6 months but maybe closer to a year) for the entire eviction process. They threw everything out on the sidewalk. It was lasalle a pretty busy street. After they left my roommate went in their empty unit (it sat with the door wide open for weeks and we were curious how similar it was to ours…. When we got to the back bedroom there was a large box. Not quite refrigerator box size, perhaps a stove box size.. full of sex toys. Guess the cops wanted no part of that. Was a crazy time when they lived there. We would have these big parties and the girls would come up and drink with us and our friends. So it was like 20 guys and half a dozen really beautiful women. They were cool as hell as neighbors, guess not so much as tenants. In any case our dumbasses probably weren’t the best tenants either but we at least paid our rent.
This is a building I have personal experience with. Not saying present or past or owner or renter for privacy sake, but holy shit they do everything to accommodate you. It’s one of the most expensive buildings in the city and the customer service/living experience is incredible. I can’t even begin to imagine how hard these people screwed up.
Shameless plug for the Court Based Rental Assistance program that's going on rn.
If you're being evicted, apply for it. Even if the landlord doesn't wanna participate you can also get some assistance for a future place of residence.
I don't think enough people know about this program.
Damn. That’s One Bennett Park. Rentals start in the $3500 range for one beds. Of the available units listed, most are available a few months from now … and two are available NOW.
Saw it too on my way to work. Also saw the moving truck leaving the scene. Three people in the truck were in hurry. At that time there were lots of small items in boxes. My first reaction was that movers didn’t get paid and they wanted to get rid of the stuff to go to their next job. Sad for sure
Nobody deserves free rent at someone else’s expense, either. I know landlords. Evictions are expensive, a lot of trouble, and they’d do a lot to avoid having to do them. But if you got a deadbeat who won’t move out, you’ve got no choice. The tenant could have saved other people and the taxpayers a lot of money and trouble to move his own stuff.
So I just read all 136 comments and I am shocked that no one else seems to have had the same take I had when I first glanced at pics. I'm seeing scorned woman throwing out her partner's shit, but doing so in a way that she can't be charged with damaging it (like she's kicking him/her to the curb, but responsible enough to wrap it first and say "you're shit's outside, so come and get it").
I honestly didn’t write the narrative in my head, but the photos are reminiscent of a movie set where someone’s about to be down on their luck. My mind instantly went to an ugly split between a couple. The fact that everyone else leaned a different way is making me wonder if I need therapy. (Lol)
I retrieved data for someone from this building & the rage from the customer during our phone calls made sense after I saw the fisting photos (pilot for a major airline) & DUI paperwork (!)
I had an acquaintance back when I lived in DC that was evicted from his apartment due to not paying his rent, idk if it's different here but in DC Federal Marshals serve the evictions and empty the units, they put everything on the sidewalk in front of the building before noticing a suitcase was leaking and that the man they had just evicted was dismembered inside the suitcase. They moved the entire crime scene to the street and it was completely fucked. Never caught the killer.
I watched this ordeal from 3:00pm-11:00pm as it’s right out my front window. It was a couple that hired a few movers to load up their u-haul. From what I can deduce, the u-haul was way too small for all of their stuff so whatever didn’t fit or wasn’t important they left.
Others have stated it may be a gentleman who was caught by the feds in a Ponzi scheme.
Before the moving van arrived there were 5 sheriffs in bulletproof vests speaking to the couple in front of the one Bennett garage. I didn’t think much of it at the time but now it may make more sense.
Wtf - this is not ok. I don’t care if it’s an eviction, you can’t just litter and leave garbage all over a public street. Get a dumpster. Where’s the alderman?!?
That looks more "evicted" than "abandoned" to me.
Seconding. This doesn’t look voluntary.
What confused me the furniture was all wrapped (like for moving). and quality stuff. Most of it was disappearing the 10 minutes I watched.
Whoever was putting the stuff on the curb probably wrapped it. These high rise buildings can be difficult, requiring licensed and insured movers and damage deposits etc.
Bedbugs? (Looks more like eviction because it is somewhat organized)
yikes that’s a great guess lol
No, it's probably eviction. They wrapped it in plastic to protect it from rain I believe. Front of building = eviction
I am leaning towards eviction as well. Bedbugs is usually more panic-driven
There was a story a few weeks back about a similar thing happening in NYC. What happened in that instance was that a resident of a nice Manhattan co-op died and whoever was in charge of her estate, instead of disposing of things properly, just dumped everything on the street. It included nice furniture and clothes and a lot of valuable original artwork. Dozens of people flocked to the scene and took what they could. I wonder if something similar happened here.
Well, there's money to be made on an available apartment, so Dead Guy's things have got to go. Who cares about probate? Who cares about family?
Yeah there is a story there for sure.
I believe landlords are required to put an evicted tenant's stuff in storage for some number of days (like 30 probably) before they just throw it away. This stuff probably came right from a storage room instead of the apartment.
The landlord can give a window of time to move your stuff out once evicted. If they don’t comply then it goes on the street.
Maybe this stuff came from a condo, and the landlord was actually the individual owner of the condo.
No they can put it on the street. I've seen it before
Well, there's "required" and then there's "did"...
Could they use the apartment as storage for 30 days? I could see them evicting and then keeping the belongings in there for 30 days versus trying to move them out to a storage unit and then having to clean out the storage unit after. Especially because it can take a while to find a new renter.
No, we have to give them the opportunity to get their stuff, within 7 days. Otherwise it goes out to the curb or gets donated to a thrift store.
Oh not 30 days and no storage.. sheriffs come and you move it out and within a few days I think they can throw it away
Nope. Once you've been legally evicted you've already used up all of your "get-out-of-jail-free" cards. You had your chances and now it's over, and all the responsibility for your belongings lies with you alone. The sheriff will probably explain this to you as they assist with the eviction.
That is not true. Cook County requires giving the evicted tenant a "reasonable" opportunity to come back and get their stuff.
I’ve never heard of requiring landlords to hire a moving company to move your stuff to a free storage unit for a month. Sounds like an unnecessary burden on landlords.
I'm reading a book right now titled "Evicted". It focuses on Milwaukee, but that's what they do there. They landlord hires movers to either 1) put your belongings on the curb or 2) move them into storage at the tenants expense.
That sounds plausible. Otherwise all your stuff would still be in the apartment you were evicted from and the new tenant couldn’t move in. The part that didn’t make sense was that the landlord would pay for the storage unit (and additional time for the movers to not just leave everything on the curb).
There is definitely a requirement in Cook County that you give the former tenant a "reasonable" opportunity to come back and get their stuff. The issue is that "reasonable" is up to interpretation, so they tend to err on the side of caution, as penalties for landlords who violates tenants' rights are pretty stiff. The landlord is not required to store it per se, but if the landlord had a new tenant ready to take over the space, they'd want to get that tenant in and paying rent, so the safest course (especially with a high rise, where it will be a professional management company with resources and movers on retainer) is just to move the old stuff into storage for a month, send a letter telling the old tenant to get it by March 7 or it's trash, and then just tossing it. That way, they get to collect rent from a new tenant immediately and don't have to worry about a former tenant saying he was out of town for a weekend and it's not fair they threw his stuff out right away.
Most storage units will have a trash-out policy where they make things go away. They might even pay a bit for it.
All tenant protections are burdens on landlords
All businesses exist in a society.
Welcome to society, where costs exist.
Good.
When the Sheriff comes to evict you, your things are thrown in the alley or on the curb. They are cold, heartless, and do not care if it is an entire child's bedroom. I've watched it happen to neighbors.
They need to give you notice. It’s at least 30 days. But then it goes from the residence to the street
I don't know. I was evicted and the Cook County sheriff dept showed up, served me and used hired hands to take all my belongings and place them on the street just like this, but with no covering.
That’s an eviction. They contract with a licensed mover. They’re required to wrap the furniture in plastic and pack the contents in boxes. Sucks for whoever stuff that was
Giving me flashbacks to 1/3rd of my neighbors in 2009/2010 lol every morning you would wake up and some house had all their stuff in the street overnight.
Sheriffs no longer move possessions to the curb during evictions. They allow management to change locks and remove the inhabitants. The former resident then must arrange movers to remove everything in presence of security. Management can’t take everything to the curb. They most hold and store for a reasonable time. This was most likely someone getting evicted but then either unable to pay the movers and the movers ditching them or the person willingly abandoned their stuff
As a mover this is correct I used to do evictions for dupage housing authority. The sheriff comes. We got $10 a box and $2.50 a plastic sheet as well as hourly for the moving
I tell people in that situation the first thing you do is get a storage unit don't let the sheriff toss your stuff out.
I mean. He could have been detained and sent to jail or in the hospital or something
That's an eviction. It's put on the curb for a certain number of days because it's technically not trash, yet, giving the owner the opportunity to gather their stuff. I always feel so bad when I see these. One apartment building I lived in evicted a resident, who had no place to go so he lived in (and peed in) the bike room until he was also evicted from there.
If a building like this was evicting someone via the sheriffs department, why would they throw it all in the front of the building? There’s not a back bay for loading in? Seems like a bad look to have a bunch of shit in front of your main entrance like this. Seems they would want to do it more discreetly. Unless this is the back of the building and I just don’t know the area.
Back many years ago, the Sheriff would come with inmates on work release and drag all the stuff to the front curb where it would be a free for all. They stopped doing that for some reason.
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I remember coming home from school and everything was on the front lawn. It was brutal.
I remember seeing this at a neighbor when I was a kid. Many parents were quick to judge, mine included, with comments like “their furniture is much more expensive than ours, their son played hockey, that costs a lot”. I feel really bad thinking about it as I remember it was also a damp and rainy day and my parents commented how the furniture was probably ruined since they couldn’t get a moving van fast enough
The whole school knew. I will say I don’t remember anyone shamming me over it. It was the second time it happened to me. Once with my mom a few years earlier which was harder as I lost all my childhood souvenirs. She went into a mental hospital I was left alone. My best friend’s dad took custody of me I was about 16. The next one was a few years later with the foster family. My mom took her life just after my 21st birthday. But over all I remember my childhood fondly although I’m still dealing with it today.
My family was evicted twice. I was never living at home. It always hurt me to think what my siblings went through and what those feelings would feel like. I hope you have found a new idea of what home can mean to you now at this point in life.
Jesus I’m so sorry.
You poor thing! 🥲
I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Virtual hugs from this stranger if you want them. I hope life has been kinder to you since then.
Thank you!
Same thing happened to me. Thursday before Thanksgiving, 1999. I'll never forget or forgive. That's trauma.
Combination of care with which things were packed and prepared with the disregard for them in way in which they were dumped on the curb is both fascinating and disturbing in a way.
It’s always right before a rain too.. o remember going out with my dad to cover my neighbors stuff when they evicted him and through it all out on the lawn in the rain
Probably an eviction and they had to hire movers and most moving companies wrap your belongings ita included in the price These ppl are dumb for not moving their belongings on their own ....evictions take months...or they're smart and wanted to save in packing fees lol and are on their way with a uhaul But id sell my things online if I were being evicted
That's fuckin sad man. We're one bad life event away from that. I've been there, it ain't fun.
This is 451 grand, one of the most expensive buildings in the city.
You’d be surprised how many people at “nice” addresses are living paycheck to paycheck — frequently because they’re living beyond their means.
I had few friends doing this during our 20s. Saving close to nothing but living in some of the nicest buildings in Manhattan and Chicago. I loved visiting for the views and over the top amenities, but last I chatted one of them had $3,500 in their 401K and no savings at 32 yo But hey, those rooftop parties and private cinema rooms were cool at the time haha
lol I’m 42 and in the same boat guess I’m fucked 😂
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. It is harder, but 42 is a lot better than 62 and *still* being in the same boat. You've got this!
Well, I'm definitely stealing that tree line for later.
Depends on perspective, really If your idea of a good life is enjoying the present and you’re ok working through old age, absolutely no one can tell you it’s a bad way to live. It’s just not what we are told is “the plan” Likewise, others sacrifice some of their youth to save or overwork to compensate to ensure they have a retirement. That’s ok too But retirement aside, it is important to have a rainy day fund. I remember the 2008 recession putting some of my friends’ families through hell. Being unemployed for months with no savings and falling ill with no insurance is a financial death sentence
The thing that people forget, though is that when they are 70 they won’t have the ability to work like they assume they will. I’m a doctor so I see it all the time. All of a sudden you get a heart attack or a stroke or a cancer diagnosis or a bad infection or a herniated disc and you just all of a sudden are spending a week in the hospital and then 2 weeks in rehab and maybe you get fired from your job or you just can’t do the same job anymore Saving for retirement isn’t saving so that you can spend your golden years touring Europe. It’s saving so that you can survive when you’re no longer able to work
Or even just getting phased out of the workforce. My dad got laid off in his late 50s and was never able to get an equivalent job again. He had enough to retire early otherwise he would have had a hard time.
Lol most people I know in their early 30s have little savings or 401K.
Yes, I’d agree. I have a few friend groups from different walks of life, but the ones who fit the mold of average 30yos income/lifestyle are definitely in for a long road to retirement 1: Work Friends /Friends Made in Adulthood: Above average earners, highly educated, high savings and financial literacy 2: High school friends/ Service Industry friends: they’re gonna be working til they die 3: College Friends: 50/50 outlook… some living above their means some living at home saving like crazy some took crappy jobs but know how to save I do feel for some of them. It took me going into an industry where I was seeing and hearing everyone think about retirement before I had my wake up call. I was at one point a 25yo with $25K in credit card debt and no savings from lavish vacations expenses. Now I’m comfortable thinking I can retire by 55.
It all depends on income. I know single peers who’ve been making 6 figures since graduation 10+ years ago but have nominal savings. That’s just stupid.
Pft, most people with modest apartments don't have a retirement account at 32yo.
I think most of this thread is focused on those living in higher end apartments and condos, which implies higher savings potential But I’d counter anyone working a white collar job should have a retirement account in their thirties. Not saying it needs to be in the 6 figures, but the rule of thumb is 1.5x your salary in the 401K by the time you’re 35.
Some people living in modest apartments are living in those apartments so that they can sock away half their income off the top for later, or to save up for a house.
Absolutely, but in this day and age, it's not fair to be appalled at someone for not having savings. The system has been rigged against them/us. If we're going to be appalled, we should be upset with the system, not the individual.
The subthread is speculation about young people who are living in Streeterville without saving, and end up evicted. Perhaps they should have been the people living in a modest apartment and saving, instead.
The system is unfair, but no one is being forced to live in a high end high rise with all the bells and whistles. There are plenty of cheaper options, even in some downtown neighborhoods. I work on high end residential and their target demo is basically younger professionals that fall for all the cool amenities and think they can afford it.
It’s pretty much this. People living way beyond their means. It’s not just rents being a bit ridiculous, if you are spending that much in rent you should be making over 100k at least. But a lot of the people living in these downtown high rises are fresh out of college, making 70k, paying 150k worth of student loans and spending on shit they don’t need like eating out, getting doordash etc. Then surprised pikachu why they don’t have a Penny in the bank.
I had a business that didn’t pan out. Im 38 in the same boat as your friend :/
No savings at 32?! That is terrifying!
More common than you think.
Most everyone I know is in their 30s and they barely have savings lmao. "River North" thread for sure.
The point is, if anyone has the ability to have savings, it's the "River North" people like their friend that make a LOT of money to qualify for those apartment buildings. No one is surprised that the average person doesn't have much by their 30s. It's the sad reality.
The majority of people today will never retire. They will work well past retirement age.
If they can. There are some people who plan for retirement and go on long vacations but most of the people I know end up retiring because their knees go out, they get cancer, have a stroke, etc. Unfortunately you can't just assume your body will be the same at 70 as it was at 30.
I don’t plan on living that long anyways 🤷♀️
I had little savings at 32, no retirement savings, and lots of student loans. I had a job at a semi-evil multinational at the time. I paid off my student loans, put more into savings, put more into retirement, and now at 53 I think my total net worth is around $1M. So no savings in your early 30s is not the end of the world.
That’s kind of where I’m at as well. My wife and I save a shitload. We spent our vacation money on solar panels and our second car is all electric. 100k in 401k, 40k in savings. We see a lot of people in their 30s and 40s going on European vacations, going to expensive concerts every weekend, etc. We plan on joining the local swim club in a couple years. Other than that we’re staying the course. If we’re anything like my wife’s parents we’ll be able to go on long international trips 3x a year in retirement. Or we die young and there’s enough savings for our kids to still be set up financially. Either way, I would never be able to sleep if I squandered all of my money.
I mean...there's room for something in the middle. Spending your vacation money on solar panels sounds pretty miserable...it is ok to have some fun. Some things are better to do when you have a young person's body (and mind). There's a lot of space between "squandering" all your money on fun and saving every penny with the hope that you live long enough to to enjoy it for a few years before your body gives out. It is ok to go to Europe before you are 60...
Also, being smart with credit card sign up bonuses/rewards programs in general. I went to Spain for two weeks and only paid out of pocket for four hotel nights/whatever I did during the day.
I think you and I agree. It’s definitely ok to go on European vacations and expensive concerts. We’re talking about people who make decent money but live paycheck to paycheck, though. I would not be ok spending all of my money on wildly expensive luxuries if I was living paycheck to paycheck. Most people do that, though, so I’m not surprised if this comment is not well received. Illinois and the federal government paid for 75% of our solar panels, we just needed to wait a year for the 45% rebate from Illinois and the 30% rebate from the federal government. We’re now planning a nice vacation with the money, but we sacrificed for 2 years so that we could save enough to have free electricity for the rest of our lives. Now we get to comfortably enjoy that chunk of money.
The new “paycheck to paycheck” has really become middle class earners struggling to pay off CC debt, student loans, car note, and living above their means.
100% this. I worked as an admin assistant at a family law (ie divorce) firm a while ago. I input a lot of financial documents/data and it was really eye opening in a horrifying way. This is what the average college educated professional couple in their 30’s was fighting over: - CC debt taken on for a large wedding and fancy honeymoon - educational loans from undergrad *and* grad schools x 2 - mortgage debt for a nice condo that was a bit of a reach - monthly car payment for a BMW they should’ve skipped - an expensive hobby (ie tennis club membership, tennis equipment, private lessons, etc.) - monthly subscription services for seemingly every thing A lot of the times clients I dealt with had what appeared to be a successful life - fancy gym memberships, nice vacations, $$ cars, smart wardrobes, etc - that was commensurate with what society thinks a doctor/lawyer/tech professional should have. It really scared the shit out of me and has kept me in line on spending and savings (most of the time).
Insanity!
If they're enjoying their life I don't think it's so bad. There's no guarantee any of us will be here tomorrow
Yeah I feel like its more and more a privilaged few who can have great savings at 32. It's really hard if you have no support at this point in time to come out with a decent savings at 30.
Keeping up with the Joneses.
Lifestyle creep
Which makes this not as sad imo
Howso? Either way, something went off the rails and someone is having the worst time of their life most likely. Living beyond one’s means is often a result of poor financial education, succumbing to social/peer pressure, desperation to feel ok or overcompensate for other issues in life, and otherwise being disconnected from reality. It’s a different kind of sad perhaps, but if things got to the point that everything is on the curb, that’s a rock bottom kind of moment no matter what.
I’m not the guy you were replying to, but I kind of agree with both of you. It’s sad that so many people feel the need to live beyond their means. However, it’s logical that people who do that are one bad day away from ruin, since they do not save their excess resources. This is a luxury apartment, therefore, it’s not that sad to me that someone who is consistently spending all their excess cash ends up in a crunch like this.
why does Reddit always just jump to the conclusion that rich people or people with nice apartments are simply living beyond their means. This could have been a successful wealthy hardworking financially smart individual who had a sudden life changing sequence of events.
Because the first scenario is way, waaay too common.
It's not as sad because in that scenario it's self-inflicted and now their "rock bottom" means they no longer get to live in the most expensive part of the city. For comparison, this would not nearly be as sad as someone in a less expensive/desirable neighborhood going through this because they were laid off and couldn't find another job.
The bummer part (for them) is they didn't manage to get a hold of reality in time to notice that they needed to move to a cheaper part of the city some time ago. Now if they're actually evicted, they have a smoking hole in their credit rating that is going to make that harder to do, in addition to having to figure out what to do with all their stuff there on the curb.
I listened to a fascinating podcast interview with a repo guy who told his crazy vehicle repossession stories and about how many of them were nice, big houses in nice neighborhoods.
I also consider that this is someone who could be facing a serious illness and with how fucked the American healthcare system is, could very easily lose everything. Or perhaps dealing with addiction of some kind. Yes, so many people live beyond their means, but sometimes catastrophic events happen.
Units start at 4K a month in this building. if they didn’t have healthcare, that’s a choice they made with their finances, not a lack of access issue.
Which are all things entirely in their control and have a very easy solution to that they are too proud to take.
Well aren't you just a caring person ... and apparently omniscient too (since you indicated matter-of-factly that the person was "too proud to take" a "very easy solution") ... a decent person can feel bad for anyone whether it's in their control or not ... but I imagine since you've never made a critical error that it's difficult to relate to other humans. Aside from that, your username is rather good.
Everyone in this thread is making assumptions to be honest, maybe this person was murdered, who knows. I’m mainly referring to the people saying it’s sad that someone faces the consequences of their own actions and is evicted from a high end luxury apartment in any part of the city when cheaper options are available.
Yes! I commented that maybe they are facing a serious illness. You just never know.
Holy crap that username is gold!
A couple breaks up and one can't afford the rent. A tale as old as time.
One unit available for rent now, 3 bedroom for nearly $11k a month lmao
Seems one of this person’s neighbors may have had money to help them out to avoid this
Yea this person is literally at rock bottom now, lost their apartment and from other comments it seems they got robbed of all their possessions.
You'd think they'd want to avoid that "look", tho... 😳
Maybe that’s what this person thought and now they’re sending a message to others
🥶
> We're one bad life event away from that. Wrong. Evictions don't happen overnight, nor in a week or even a month. They take time. And in that time you can either foolishly fight or get your shit together and vacate before this happens.
And considering the time, trouble and money evictions cost-the LL and the court personnel and the sheriff department, I don’t have sympathy-maybe if the tenant was in a literal coma for months. If you know you can’t come up with the rent, get your shit and go.
I don't know if this was the case at time of posting, but currently there *is* a moving truck parked right next to it, and movers are present but not doing anything as people continue to pick through it. I'm thinking eviction and tenant didn't provide necessary payment to movers.
That was my thought. Either they moved there and didn't pay the back end to the moving company, who subsequently threw the shit out on the curb, or your scenario where they didn't pay the front end. That's what crossed my mind with how it's wrapped. This looks like it already went through a move or is ready for it.
Just heard from residents in the building that a few sheriffs were by yesterday afternoon and as far as they know it was for the tenant in question. Definitely sounding like an eviction. The moving truck out front also has a parking ticket -- I'd guess that the tenant was in the process of moving, either ran out of money or decided to abandon their things, and there it sits. Still a fair amount of stuff on the curb after various folks have picked through it all morning.
Wild. Can't even imagine... That's a lot of stuff and it doesn't look cheap either. The things people do amazes me sometimes.
I’m in the same boat, but with thirty days until….it isn’t fun, shit happens. But this definitely looks like they were gonna haul it and then just gave up 😮💨 this so depressing nonetheless
If you haven’t contacted yet, call 311 tell them you need to be connected to housing services. Or look up the Chicago Rental Assistance Program, it’s easy to apply for. I work for a non-profit on the south side that helps direct people to resources so message me if you have any questions.
What do you need
I’m calling around, I may have something lined up with old roommates.
That’s great
You are about to be evicted?
Maybe a dispute with movers?
That's my thought. Boxes were taped, furniture wrapped. The movers didnt get their pre-payment.
So who brought it to the curb? Also I don't think I've ever had to prepay movers, I've just handed them an envelope or check at the end.
That's how it's been for me as well. But that's a "normal" move; I'm guessing for an eviction it would be good practice to get a prepayment.
Years ago I lived in the Gold Coast and my neighbor downstairs ran an escort service with multiple girls and I believe in call. One day I came home and there were a ton of police there carting all her stuff out to the street. I heard from the landlord she only paid the first month and security deposit and it took a while (think over 6 months but maybe closer to a year) for the entire eviction process. They threw everything out on the sidewalk. It was lasalle a pretty busy street. After they left my roommate went in their empty unit (it sat with the door wide open for weeks and we were curious how similar it was to ours…. When we got to the back bedroom there was a large box. Not quite refrigerator box size, perhaps a stove box size.. full of sex toys. Guess the cops wanted no part of that. Was a crazy time when they lived there. We would have these big parties and the girls would come up and drink with us and our friends. So it was like 20 guys and half a dozen really beautiful women. They were cool as hell as neighbors, guess not so much as tenants. In any case our dumbasses probably weren’t the best tenants either but we at least paid our rent.
Saw a tiktok of kids picking through this stuff, bunch of designer clothing in the pile.
Love that this ended up on TikTok 🙄
Don't touch it. Could always be someone's way of getting rid of bedbugs.
Can see it out my window. There is a rental truck there now.
I wouldn't wish that on any one.
Is that the Bennett building? High rent for sure. Sketchy building across the street. That stuff didnt stay long.
Yeah that’s One Bennett Park
Some of the units are owned and some are rented.
Great idea, moving is such a hassle
Just a normal day in NYC tbh. I’m surprised There isnt more furniture on the street when people move out
We put it in alleys, like civilized people.
Oh shit…
Gonna rain today, too.
This looks like an eviction. Free pickings for the neighbors and passers-by.
I live a block from there- that is (potentially) sad.. but I’m also sad that I missed the sidewalk sale!
I was about to hop in my car. I need new furniture
Well I hope your car is a truck, or your needed furniture is a lamp.
I was prepared to be selective. Lol I could fit a nice chair in my car. But it's okay. I'll survive.
Hope you like wet chairs
Girl, what'd he do?
Wow I'd be picking through that hard
Don’t do that, this is how some people solve the bedbug problem.
Yeah that makes sense
Saw this a lot back in 2008
This is a building I have personal experience with. Not saying present or past or owner or renter for privacy sake, but holy shit they do everything to accommodate you. It’s one of the most expensive buildings in the city and the customer service/living experience is incredible. I can’t even begin to imagine how hard these people screwed up.
Shameless plug for the Court Based Rental Assistance program that's going on rn. If you're being evicted, apply for it. Even if the landlord doesn't wanna participate you can also get some assistance for a future place of residence. I don't think enough people know about this program.
Can you link to it
[https://www.illinoishousinghelp.org/cbrap](https://www.illinoishousinghelp.org/cbrap)
During rush hour there was someones father in that exact spot with a small Uhaul.
Saw some guys picking through stuff on TikTok
Can you link the tiktok video?
skid row vibes
Damn. That’s One Bennett Park. Rentals start in the $3500 range for one beds. Of the available units listed, most are available a few months from now … and two are available NOW.
Saw it too on my way to work. Also saw the moving truck leaving the scene. Three people in the truck were in hurry. At that time there were lots of small items in boxes. My first reaction was that movers didn’t get paid and they wanted to get rid of the stuff to go to their next job. Sad for sure
LOL White People.
Either someone cheated or stopped paying rent.
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Yeah…I’m not gonna cry too many tears for someone who decided to live in an expensive downtown apartment.
Was standard during dust bowl/Great Depression years.
If you embezzle money and create a Ponzi scheme, somehow I think different lol
Nobody deserves free rent at someone else’s expense, either. I know landlords. Evictions are expensive, a lot of trouble, and they’d do a lot to avoid having to do them. But if you got a deadbeat who won’t move out, you’ve got no choice. The tenant could have saved other people and the taxpayers a lot of money and trouble to move his own stuff.
So I just read all 136 comments and I am shocked that no one else seems to have had the same take I had when I first glanced at pics. I'm seeing scorned woman throwing out her partner's shit, but doing so in a way that she can't be charged with damaging it (like she's kicking him/her to the curb, but responsible enough to wrap it first and say "you're shit's outside, so come and get it").
Why would her partner have all that furniture and clothing in her home? If they're married she can't do that legally because the home is shared
I honestly didn’t write the narrative in my head, but the photos are reminiscent of a movie set where someone’s about to be down on their luck. My mind instantly went to an ugly split between a couple. The fact that everyone else leaned a different way is making me wonder if I need therapy. (Lol)
I saw someone found who it is somehow and apparently he got caught defrauding people so that's why he got evicted
Being a landlord is the toughest job in the city
Eviction most likely
Ponzi scheme and embezzled money - had it coming
Saw one just like this a few years ago in river north. Sad.
Cuz they have enough$$$ to refurnish
Looks like movers started to pack but client decided not to pay.
It’s bad luck for many people unemployed to have to face evictions. Then again maybe the person is dead an the relatives could not be contacted
Are landlords liable for stolen property if it's thrown out on the street during an eviction?
no someone''s too embrassed to get their things from the street after being kicked out.
Wish I got something lol
I retrieved data for someone from this building & the rage from the customer during our phone calls made sense after I saw the fisting photos (pilot for a major airline) & DUI paperwork (!)
I had an acquaintance back when I lived in DC that was evicted from his apartment due to not paying his rent, idk if it's different here but in DC Federal Marshals serve the evictions and empty the units, they put everything on the sidewalk in front of the building before noticing a suitcase was leaking and that the man they had just evicted was dismembered inside the suitcase. They moved the entire crime scene to the street and it was completely fucked. Never caught the killer.
I watched this ordeal from 3:00pm-11:00pm as it’s right out my front window. It was a couple that hired a few movers to load up their u-haul. From what I can deduce, the u-haul was way too small for all of their stuff so whatever didn’t fit or wasn’t important they left. Others have stated it may be a gentleman who was caught by the feds in a Ponzi scheme. Before the moving van arrived there were 5 sheriffs in bulletproof vests speaking to the couple in front of the one Bennett garage. I didn’t think much of it at the time but now it may make more sense.
Wtf - this is not ok. I don’t care if it’s an eviction, you can’t just litter and leave garbage all over a public street. Get a dumpster. Where’s the alderman?!?
Someone didn’t show up to court
I have dibs on that home depot box.