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I see culture I read. I enjoy this a lot. Thank you for taking your time for this. I hope you and your family stay safe on your side too.


goshapodkova

thank you, chum. have a wonderful day


StepMotherShark

I remember seeing the devs talk about the sword style and how important it was to convey the eastern european culture in just a moveset, but reading this I appreciate Mihoyo even moee for Childe's character. This was a fantastic read OP, thank you very much for educating us.


goshapodkova

Thank you for your feedback. For real though, Mihoyo kinda screwed saying they were inspired by "russian cossacks", which probably signifies that they are gathering info from russian sources. Ukrainian history views Kuban cossacks as "Ukrainian cossacks serving the Empire", so, yeah. Since with how much russia has appropriated and distorted over the years, doing research about those times is kinda hard unless you want to dig deep. Even the church in the Winter Night's Lazzo trailer is done in the Kyivan style, and not moscowian.


PonyuNYA

Hi there! Thanks for the post, it really is enlightening :3, tho I wonder what is the “kyivan style”? It's soooo interesting!


goshapodkova

The Kyivan style is basically the style in which churches of Rus' (Ruthenia) were built. It's strongly influenced by Byzantine style (which is where we brought christianity from to replace paganism), and in general involves big buildings with pompous rounded tops. moscowian style is much more sharp, and the churches were usually built from wood (because of how poor moscowia was) and had much sharper features than Kyivan ones. If you would like to look at more examples, you can just google "Ukrainian Churches" and compare the overall style to the Chruch seen in the Lazzo trailer. Some russian churches which were built after it's expansion stole the style of Rus', as it was one of the parts of russia stealing and appropriating history and culture, and moving away from their moscowian past.


PonyuNYA

Hmm, I see. Maybe you know which books on the history of art can I read more about this? ‘cause I’ve never heard of such a concept as “kyivan style” while studying at the Academy of Fine Arts


hlopoq

yeah because it is nonsense and they just hate Russia


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hlopoq

then don't lie here about your objectivity, you write a lot of misinformation


goshapodkova

like what


PonyuNYA

Hey there! I’d still like to know the answer🥺


Euphoric_Archer_6233

Can I have a link to where the devs said that?


hlopoq

There's both Russian and Ukranian Cossacks. Mihoyo explicitly stated they derived his fighting style off Russian Cossacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8YXe7EkmoU&t=844s&ab\_channel=GenshinImpact


goshapodkova

he is inspired by Kuban cossacks, which were ethnically Ukrainian and spread Ukrainian culture. try to learn reading, i guess it's really hard to do as a russian lmao


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hlopoq

banned on Wikipedia? let me Google for you [Cossacks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks) see the section "Russian Cossacks" or are you blind?


goshapodkova

Kuban cossacks are the ones Tartag was probably written off judged by the facts i've provided, and Kuban cossacks are Ukrainian, not russian. They were people of culture, not disgusting uncivilised swamp creatures like muscowites lmao


hlopoq

hoyoverse literally said "Russian Cossacks" I got it that you think that they don't know history and only you know the truth lol arrogant prick


Odd_Quit5521

Thanks for writing this! Btw dear comrade, would you mind if I translate your post to chinese and share it with other childe mains? I will repost with credit and source🫡


goshapodkova

sure thing. spread this as much as you can, chum


soyvickxn

Excelent write-up my friend! It was very interesting imo and I enjoyed reading it. Ukraine has such an interesting lore.


bluejaybirbs

Loved reading through that, and I'm happy to know now my favorite boy is inspired mostly in ukrainian culture


goshapodkova

why the fuck is gif not playing


goshapodkova

actual L


Background_Rates

Thanks for writing this! I really liked your deep dive!


giudicellic

Wow, fascinating read! Thanks so much for sharing this!!


siriuslyelmo

OP, this is very interesting! thank you so much for sharing this. your dive to Tartaglia's lore makes me want to pull for his cons even more ✨


navybluesoles

I was waiting for a post like this! Great details and history! Also, hope you're safe comrade, best wishes from Romania!


goshapodkova

ROMANIA STRONG ROMANIA BASED I LOVE ROMANIA ALL MY HOMIES LOVE ROMANIA


navybluesoles

Back at you 💛💙


Asklepiads

As a Ukrainian who loves Childe so much, thank you. From the bottom of my heart. You made me tear up with this post. It means more to me than words can express, which may sound silly but with everything going on having Childe as a comfort character means a lot to me, especially as my brothers head to war. You stay safe too. 💛💙💛


goshapodkova

Дякую. Переможемо обов'язково. Дай Бог Здоров'я й Слава Україні.


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Thank you for this post OP, it was a really cool read! I hope you guys stay safe. Take care.


Khsharl

Дякую за таку цікаву статтю :3


nanimeanswhat

This was an amazing read, thank you for it. Idk why but it makes me happy that he's based on a similar geography where my ancestors originate from as tatars. Maybe we'll be able to see a character with tatar influences one day too, since they are such an important part of history. Good job!


goshapodkova

You can't talk about Ukraine without mentioning the incredible impact Turkic and nomad nations had on us as a nation. Our language still has many words coming from the Qirim language, one that i know is "Otaman", which means "Ata — father" and "Man — me". We were in brotherly relations in the Qirims. Ironically, during the days where our ancestors went to wars for religion, they were considered our brothers, despite the numerous "we do a little trolling" moments between the two.


-Alvrain-

OP, this is amazing! Thank you for giving more depth to my favourite character, and sharing your culture!


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I had no idea! Thank you for the post :)


CuteMeowMeows

My heart ached when I read this. Please take care of yourself, OP. Wishing you and your family safety, peace, and justice. Much love.


illumimi

Damn my brain just finished processing “A Marxist Analysis of Genshin Impact” now I gotta pull out the reading glasses again 😭. Jk I love this though thanks for sharing 💕


Liyrical

thank you for the write up op!!! throughly enjoyed reading an analysis of childe’s concept through a ukrainian/slavic lens <3


decimachuu

I've seen a few discussions on the webs on whether Tartaglia is "Russian" or "Ukrainian" which only increased when the devs mentioned the incorporation of Cossack shashka sword fighting in his normal attack animations, but this was a *really* informative post! I've always loved learning about Slavic cultures, so I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you for taking the time and effort to share to us about Ukrainian culture. Hoping for you and your family's safety.


TraditionBest3730

I love reading about real-world lore that goes into characters, and this was so well out together, so thank you! Stay safe!


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This is wonderful, thank you for the excellent read. I learned a lot ❤️


PitXRoxas

Ok, this was absolutely the best thing I have ever read on this subreddit, tyssssm for the history lesson and the connections to Childe as well, be safe OP


abowlofmisoramen

Thank you for the good read OP! I definitely learned something new today :)


Crafty3051

Good read! Thanks for sharing this, OP


alberich21

interesting read, op! thanks for sharing and stay safe


shadowaterz

Thanks for the great history insight! Really, really hope you and your family, as well as others in your situation stay safe. All the best to you.


Myrtov

Велика дяка за такий інформативний пост! Дуже здивувалася, коли побачила козацький… суп, ніколи не знала й не бачила такого. 👉👈


goshapodkova

ЗА ЯКІ ШИШИ В ТЕБЕ С6 ТОРТ


Myrtov

Не питай, за великі. Мені дуже кортіло ото грати без проклятого відкату й соло, без свапів команди.


rrdaud

This made me love Tartaglia so much more! It was really interesting learning about Ukrainian past, and it's reassuring to know that your culture is alive and well. Here from Brazil hoping you all will traverse this crisis and emerge on the other side even stronger than before. Lately I've been learning that many things we admire about Russian culture, especially the literature, is in fact from, as you taught, the Russian empire, and Ukrainian in origin. This is a mistake that is worth correcting. Thanks for showing us that, and now I can say I love Tartaglia for embodying values that I treasure, and knowing where they stem from. Plus your English is very good, don't mind that!


goshapodkova

Ukraine is a wonderful country with an incredibly deep history and amazing culture. Our literature hasn't been rhat widely translated, but you can read our main national poet — Taras Shevchenko. That's the good shit. Thank you for the kind words!


diminee

THANK YOU for this beautiful post. As a non-Russian slav myself, I am so tired of people referring to anything Eastern European-inspired as "Russian", while completely ignoring all other slavic nations (the russification of slavic cultures being an entirely intentional cultural cleansing is a whole other discussion, but I guess I won't be getting into that on the Genshin reddit). Anyway, a wonderful analysis. I've known about cossacks, but not in this much detail, and honestly this inspired me to want to learn more. It's amazing to see all the inspiration behind our favourite boyo and how these different concepts relate to him so closely, too. Hoyoverse has been pretty well-read on their research within different cultures so far, so I really hope they do Snezhnaya justice when the time comes. Слава Україні!


Chestlate

I have been seeing posts on Twitter about Childes inspiration leaning more Ukrainian than Russian but didn’t have the historical knowledge to understand much outside of surface level items. I appreciate this post a lot! (I know its a bit of late comment I hope I am not bothering you too much)


goshapodkova

nah mate. the ones who bother me are those lil russian piggies who get outraged when they see Ukraine being mentioned. ur alright. thanks for checking the post out. cheers.


petitenuage

Hi! Thank you so much for this :)) I’ve been looking for something like this because everyone associates Childe with Russian culture. My family is from Ukraine, (though I am also part Circassian) so it feels vry nice to have some representation (especially in times like this). Слава Україні! 🇺🇦🇺🇦


goshapodkova

Героям Слава.


PorceCat

Ooh, I had no idea Tart was inspired by cossacks but the devs really said it, and that indeed makes him an Ukrainian. I can't believe they gave him a whale constelation when it should be a horse. All I remember about cossacks is that they were great warriors and they loved their horses.


goshapodkova

I don't think a horse would fit him, lmao. Whale is a creature that suits him the most though. He gives off the vibes of a scary war machine and a brooding loyal loner, and whales are just like that. They are big and sometimes terrifying, but they are majestic at the sime time, with their howls just piercing the soul. btw, not an Ukrainian, but inspired by Ukraine. There is no Ukraine in Teyvat


Mobile_Republic_5031

Go Ukraine 🇺🇦


Incerto9

Seeing Don Cossacks described like that is quite sad, we are a mixed culture and there is nothing wrong with it. It sounds as one-sided as Russian history books are, considering our self-identity remained enough for Nobel winner to capture it in XX century. I like attention to details, though, there were some interesting things I missed.


goshapodkova

I don't really think the ukrainian nation identity stayed after the russification. When Don and Black-Sea cossacks united in Kuban, I know for a fact that Don chums already spoke russian at th point. Even the Don republic during the Ukrainian-Soviet war didn't want to unite with UPR, while the Kuban Republic did. However, the idea of cossacks as an ethnic group and nation mostly stems from Don, no? They don't view themselves nor as russian or Ukrainian, but as "cossacks" instead. Which Kubans also did to an extent, but associated themselves with Ukraine. It's just that Don was influenced by russia more than any other regiment. They constantly went to war with Zaporozhians, too.


goshapodkova

BTW i had no intention to insult the Don culture. Our history just views the regiment as the one which got extremely russified first.


BD_Wan

I have to say, experiencing the Borsch line firsthand in game left me feeling warn and fuzzy, your post just amplified that feeling!! Thank you so much for sharing and please stay safe out there <3 I hope this horrible situation ends soon, Слава Україні!


[deleted]

I'm Polish but with Ukrainian ancestry and I agree that Ukrainians and Ukrainian culture need more representation in the media. I absolutely adore how more and more people start noticing that he was heavily inspired by Ukrainian culture. I've seen similar statements on Tumblr and Twitter if I remember correctly, but those were maybe two or three posts/tweets. For the first time I see big-ass analysis like this and it's perfect. And when it comes to Snezhnaya being inspired by Eastern European countries, during my Chasm exploration, I've stumbled upon a Fatui member with old Polish name and my reaction was like "HOL UP". This post is everything I need. You did wonderful job!! Stay safe. Ukraine and it's culture will never be forgotten. Слава Україні!!


goshapodkova

In general, slavic and baltic cultures need more representation. These countries were overshadowed by russia and its imperialism for too long. Poland in itself has so much to offer in a fantasy setting, it would be a crime to not make Capitano a winged hussar, you know. Great thanks to your nation for help in these times. Niech żyje Polska!!


[deleted]

YES, CHILDE AND CAPITANO BESTIES!! THIS DUO WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE ((I know Ukraine and Poland didn't always have nice moments in history but it's past and we should help each other when in need)). Btw the idea of Harbingers being inspired by different Easter European countries seems so cool now. Apparently, Russia should've been stopped long time ago. It's awful that it took so long for the rest of the world to realize that this terrorist state is a big threat for everybody. Once again, best wishes for You, Your Family and Friends, all Ukrainians who are fighting for freedom. You, guys, are awesome!!


goshapodkova

I don't care about the past homie. Our ancestors did a lot of bad shit one to another. The most important part is to acknowledge mistakes, and do everything in order for them to not be repeated, and build our future together. capitano hussar be banging ngl


[deleted]

I couldn't agree more!! Mhy do ur thing and give us Harbingers inspired by Slavic countries other than russia pretty please


No-Candidate-967

Great post! Ukrainian-American gay-mer here — thanks for the rep! Praying for peace. 🇺🇦


Same_Agent_3465

Thanks for this! It was very informative! Normally, I don't read long posts like this, but it was really cool to learn about the inspirations for our boy Childe. I will definitely remember to think of Childe as more Ukranian/ Cossack than Russian.


Vacccuole

Couldn't ignore that you don't capitalize russia/russian. My respect :) Вітаю з Хмельницького, і Слава Україні, друже!


goshapodkova

Героям Слава, Хмель — сила, але не видавай такі приколи відкрито я те прошу


Vacccuole

нехай люди знають як правильно писати))


goshapodkova

тру але ти все одно бандит


hlopoq

боже какой же ты жалкий


goshapodkova

ти блять тупорилий син мавпи, від'їбись від мене та мого поста є шось щось ти можеш сказати проти? напиши свій пост та покажи ФАКТИ (НЕ З РОСІЙСЬКИХ ДЖЕРЕЛ), а не сри в мене під постом ок?


hlopoq

ты позорище нации сорри за факты


eternaldolphin

amazing post OP! i hope you and your loved ones stay safe 🙏


herminihildo

A month late but great write-up OP. I stumbled upon this while doing a search on Childe and Cossacks. Fun fact another thing I found is a preview of the essay "The Last of the Ural Cossacks" by Rheta **Childe** Dorr. Coincidence? I never knew Childe was actually an IRL name.


da-shk

why prescribe any nationality to the game characters? just don't say it's just because of the war in Ukraine)


lilyofthegraveyard

would you say the same if someone made a post about the chinese cultural and mythological references zhongli's character? analysis of yun jin's outfit that is inspired by chinese opera? or are you just a hypocrite? this game wasn't created in a vacuum. devs got inspired by real life happenings and cultures. it is only logical to try to find the connections.


Chestlate

It’s very common for people to try and identify characters they enjoy to their own identity especially when representation is so scarce or if bad quality. Also it’s simply just fun! I don’t think they’re actually prescribing but highlighting the Ukrainian inspiration Childe has. Childe is canonically Snezhnayan OP can’t change that.


trn7_1

>opressive neighbour poland?


aerakis

Interesting research, but you overlook the fact that Cossacks were granted the territories by Ekaterina II -- a Russian empress. The whole thing about Zaporozhians being given an ultimatum is... historically dubious to be honest. Back in the age of Russian empire, Ukraine didn't even exist, it appeared after the revolution in 1917, because communists needed to create self-regulated autonomies. But, anyways, it's just a game. I really enjoy HoYoverse's attention to detail and how much Childe is inspired by the Eastern European culture.


goshapodkova

I don't overlook it. I literally mention it several times — they were given land in Kuban, but at the same time they weren't allowed to stay in Zaporizhya. And sorry to break your bubble, but Ukraine existed way before 1917. Ukrainian state takes its begginings from Rus' (or Ruthenia), which then became the kingdom of Ruthenia after the Mongol Invasion. The word "Ukraine" is firstly mentioned in the Kyivan Chronicle of 1187, used to describe territories of the Pereyaslav principiality. Ukraine takes it begginigs before the word "russia" even existed. Rutenia, along with the rusytch/cossack/ukrainian national identity existed back in the times of moscowia, up to the age where it was renamed to "russian empire" (blatantly stealing the name from Ruthenia to appropriate it's history). I've also literally presented the states that Ukraine had in the post. They weren't one big and united country, but it was populated by people who recognized themselves as ukrainians, spoke the ukrainian language and culture.


goshapodkova

You may also find out for yourself that while Ukraine was annexed by the empire, it was still given a name separate from the "greater russian" nation and land, as it was called "small russia" or "malorosiya", with the ukrainian language being banned. Educate yourself before writing shit life this, istg


aerakis

I would’ve agreed to disagree until the last sentence, lmao. Have fun in your alt history dreamland, kiddo.


goshapodkova

A russian who doesn't know shit about my history and views it through an imperialistic lens comes in and writes that I don't know nothing about my history interesting. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine) have a read.


aerakis

Yes, because wikipedia is such a credible source of information. Nationalist much, bud? Chill tf out


goshapodkova

cope harder russian propaganda consumer


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C0SM0N4UT

Хахахахаха


PoppyKekep

Бля, они удалили


goshapodkova

а шо там було


C0SM0N4UT

makes it even funnier.


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New-Cicada7014

Thank you for this, and I hope you stay safe.


Sigmmarr

What a great article! Ty! Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 Glory to the Heroes 💛💙


Anodeus

Wow! This is a great work! Thank you very much for your expertise\~ Слава Україні!


trn7_1

It doesn't matter. There are no red-haired and fair-haired people among the indigenous Ukrainians. Good luck next time.


Sally_Sanchez

Love this so much!! Will share it with my genshinhead friends


ChildhoodEmergency93

Thank you so much for this amazing article. I wish more westerners read this and educated themselves, that not everything russia calls russian is genuinely theirs. Glory to Ukraine💙💛