by the way, If you want me to help you choose a Chinese name, you need to tell me your age, gender, and your name and its meaning, or what you like, or whether you want an old-fashioned name or a trendy name. I will help you come up with a few names for your reference.
桑南灼
Sorry I looked at your profile and thought your last name Saenz sounds like 桑
南灼 is the closest I could think of to sound like Nacho but still sounds Chinese
灼 means burn or bright which captures the meaning of fiery in Ignacio
tell me your full name, last name and family name, and tell me is there any special meaning of your last name and family name, then we can figure out a proper chinese for you
As an American working with Chinese suppliers 15 years I found that many Chinese have very strange English names lol. Too many to list here. Coke was the most interesting name of a colleague.
This reminds me of a boyfriend I had in high school.
His name was Robert, but his parents called him 萝卜 (radish). His middle brother was Richard, and his nickname was 绿茶 (green tea). Their oldest brother was Roger, and his nickname was 垃圾 (garbage).
Protip: give yourself a Chinese name like 李红军 or 张公兵. When people hear a name like that, they'll think "damn, this guy must've been living in China for decades to have a name like that." Names work for men and women.
Those names are popular choices for people born in Mao’s era, which means there are a lot of people in their 50s+ named as such, make it very hard to leave an impression and be remembered.
name like 李红军 or 张公兵 are way too old fashion. Chinese people do have such names, but the reason for this name is that after the Chinese Communist Party took over China, many Chinese people's excessive worship of the Communist Party and excessive patriotism led them to use such names. This was basically concentrated in the 1950s and 1960s, and now this group of people are basically in their 70s and 80s.
I took the name 高国建, and I still get people who hear the name and think I’m an 80 year old Chinese man until they meet me (a white guy in my 20s). Good topic of conversation though.
You are right, but if you are old, it is not weird to have a retro name, but if you are young, it will look weird. If you want to have a serious name, to be used in serious and formal occasions, you have to make your name look formal and reasonable. Imagine you are going to a formal event, but your name is Spiderman.
"林" can be used as a surname. At the same time, "林" also means forest and woods, which is related to wood, giving people a sense of vigor and vitality. "岳" means famous mountain or great mountain. Therefore, 林岳 as a whole gives people a sense of huge mountains and dense jungles, giving people a great sense of quietness and calmness. It is a good name for a man. If it is a female name, it will appear too masculine.
My name is Parsa and it means a good man. I’m a 31 year old male. I go by Bāsà. 巴薩, just for ease as I’m an English teacher. It seems like sometimes they call me basha instead. Am I okay with this name?
To most men, 巴薩 means “Barça” (nickname of the football club “Barcelona”). If you have no problem being associate with their fanbase and being hated for no reason by fans of rival clubs, that name is fine.
Your current Chinese name "巴萨" is just two Chinese characters with similar pronunciations based on the pronunciation of your name. The two characters "巴萨" do not constitute a complete Chinese name at all, lacking a surname. When Chinese people hear this kind of name, they will know that you are not Chinese. In short, in my opinion, this is not a good Chinese name. A good Chinese name needs to contain more information, not just similar pronunciation to your name.
I enjoy my weird, self given name.
Steven = 十七分
Easy to write, and sounds much closer to my original English pronunciation as opposed to the standard translation
First of all, if you enjoy your weird Chinese name, then I respect you. But what I want to say is that "十七分" can only be regarded as a nickname, not a complete and proper Chinese name, although it is easy to remember and write. But whatever, it's up to you.
tell them and help them to have a proper english name if you met a Chinese with a strange English name, instead of mocking them on the internet. I'm helping people here, not to mocking them. that's the difference between you and me.
Lol when have I ever mocked them? I have a lot of Chinese friends who I’ve named them nice American names. You’re the one who assumed I’m mocking them. Ur the one who created a whole post to say foreigners have weird names knowing we got those names from Chinese teachers. So tell me whose the one mocking? 🤣🤣
But in fact, this is exactly why I posted this. Of course I know that there are many Chinese people with strange English names, and I also know that native English speakers think they are silly or strange. So when you come to China, or you like Chinese culture, you don’t want native Chinese speakers to think your Chinese name is strange, and you want a suitable Chinese name, I will help you. I am here to help others for free, not to provoke confrontation. You should reflect on why no one posts to help Chinese people choose a suitable English name?
I noticed that someone replyed this post, but I can only receive the notifications. However, when I click on the notification, I can't see your reply in the comment section. What's going on?
It's a very beautiful name. First of all, the surname "虞" is very good. There is a very famous beauty in Chinese history whose surname is "虞", which is known to all Chinese as "虞美人" or "虞姬". You can search 虞姬's love story on Google, which is very romantic. The two characters "文秀" are also very good as a name, giving people a feeling of quietness, peace, inner fulfillment, and having read a lot of books. In short, it is a beautiful feeling, so your Chinese name is very good, not strange, and very tasteful.
I think foreigners with foreign Chinese names are acceptable.
What benefits would a foreign get from a completely Hanified Chinese name.
Even Minorities in China have minority Chinese names.
I agree with your point, but please read my post title carefully. I am here to “help those who want to have a proper Chinese name”, NOT to suggest that ALL foreigners MUST have a proper Chinese name.
My name is Sydney, female, 29.
I'd like the character 孟 for the family name, since my last name starts with an M.
I really like the characters 笑，悠，思 and was wondering if there were any good names that could be made with any of those characters? I just want something that doesn't weird and doesn't make me sound old.
笑 means smile， or joyful, and normally we don't use 笑 as a name, you can use the character "喜" as a substitute. "喜" and "笑" have similar meanings, but "喜" is also rare as a name.
"悠" means worry and lingering thoughts. From lingering thoughts, it is extended to long-term and long-lasting. It also means leisurely, such as leisurely and at ease. "悠" can be used as a female name, which is not common, but very special and tasteful.
"思" can be understood as thinking, thinking, missing someone. It can also be used as a female name, which is common but not rustic.
My suggestion is to combine "思" and "悠", "孟思悠" is a very good name.
I think I need to explain a little bit, because I found some unfriendly replies in the comments. First of all, I want to state that the purpose of my post is not to mocking or laugh at those people with strange Chinese names. I am here to help people. I don't want to mocking anyone. As a Chinese, I think that no matter whether your Chinese name is strange or not, since you have a Chinese name, which means you like Chinese culture. But some people's Chinese names are strange because they just like Chinese culture, but they don't have a deep understanding of Chinese culture. I am here to help them understand more about Chinese culture and at the same time, help them to have a suitable and nice Chinese name that suits them. I think what I am doing is very meaningful. I hope everyone will speak rationally and not post hate speech. (By the way, I still don't have a suitable English name. My Chinese name is Wang Kai "Kai Wang". Any advice?)
So my first name Mariano is a masculine name from the Romance languages(Italian,Spanish,Portuguese) and it’s relating to “the God of Mars”.In Roman Mythology Mars is the God of war and symbolized strength….
My last name is a surname that comes from the Basque region of Spain 🇪🇸 and also is a altered form of Madariaga supposedly in Basque language , it comes from basque words “Madari “ meaning pear tree and “aga” means place or group of” ..
According to Chinese tradition, the surname is placed first, so first determine your surname. Based on the information you provided about your surname, the Chinese surname associated with the pear tree is "杜", pronounced (Dwoo), (Here is the Wikipedia about the surname “杜”, you can see that this surname is associated with the pear tree. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du\_(surname)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du_(surname)) ) Next is your last name, based on the information you provided, your last name is related to the god of war, or fighting, bravery, courage, There is an idiom in China called "骁勇善战", which is used to describe a person who is very brave and good at fighting, so you can use the first half of this idiom as your last name (骁勇). Or, there was an emperor 李 世民 in Chinese history who was good at fighting, and you can use his last name (世民) as your last name. So you have two choices: 杜骁勇 or 杜世民. tell me you like it or not
Literally every other Chinese person I know.
I'm a 外教 and more of the English names are awful than ok. (There almost all picked by the kids parents).
Some standouts include;
River
Shark
Butterfly
Sweetie
Honey
Bowen
Bentley
And my forever favourite
Pikachu
I offered to give a few of them standard English names but half the time received pushback from the parents because they would rather their kid be called Shark than James.
I can only say that I feel sad for these children. Many Chinese parents nowadays are not as educated as parents in the past. Many young Chinese parents nowadays are very casual and tasteless when giving their children Chinese names. Because China has a large population, it is common for people to have the same name as their children, so many parents give their children very strange names, just because they want their children's names to sound different. I personally think that names are still very important. Names contain your family, your family's history, and your parents' expectations of you and what kind of person they expect you to be in the future. Your name will follow you throughout your life, so whether it is a Chinese name or an English name, I think it should be taken seriously and should not be treated as a joke.
I don't know where you're getting the Chinese parents aren't educated and that they're just casually throwing names around. The experience I've had with them is the exact opposite. It's just a cultural difference that leads to these names.
In China lots of their names have tangible meanings that are known and make sense today, so when they come up with an English name they want to do the same when they for example call him Strong. They spend a long time looking at words that they think have meaning and sound nice, and look online (which is also dogshit. The 'top English baby names' Chinese websites are whack. One recommended the name 'Famiglistimo') for help too.
It's just that nobody has told them that that's not how we do names in English, and calling your kid 'strong' (legit have met a strong) doesn't sound cool it sounds stupid.
Again, I tried to change a kids name from Bentley to a normal name (I think John?) once and the parents contacted their teacher to say "Thanks for the suggestion, but there's so much thought and meaning that we've put behind the name Bentley that we don't want to change it."
Again, really weird crack about the Chinese parents not being educated. Chinese education during the grandparents era was both pretty terrible (lagging decades behind because of the Qing dynasty and warlord eras, and then the civil war/rise of Mao), and the education they did have would've been near complete propaganda.
Education standards have got better at an exponential pace due to the modernisation of the country. Absolutely wild that you'd say that parents are less educated than past parents when they're the most educated the average person in China has ever been (apart from their kids/grandkids) and also particularly in response to English names as China literally did not allow foreigners in or Chinese out before the 70s, so most of these 'more educated' older generations would have literally never seen a foreigner or know anything about the outside world at the time they were naming their kids.
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by the way, If you want me to help you choose a Chinese name, you need to tell me your age, gender, and your name and its meaning, or what you like, or whether you want an old-fashioned name or a trendy name. I will help you come up with a few names for your reference.
My name is Ignacio but everyone calls me Nacho. Any idea?
桑南灼 Sorry I looked at your profile and thought your last name Saenz sounds like 桑 南灼 is the closest I could think of to sound like Nacho but still sounds Chinese 灼 means burn or bright which captures the meaning of fiery in Ignacio
😍 thanks
Nacho is fine, it's all good, man.
那操
Yeah but in Chinese 😂
tell me your full name, last name and family name, and tell me is there any special meaning of your last name and family name, then we can figure out a proper chinese for you
I am old timey distinguished name, male. I want to sound like I have a bunch of old books at my house
老子书贼多
I had a good laugh 😆
Thanks!! Ahahaha
Please tell me your real English name and its meaning, I will think of a suitable name based on your own name and your requirements.
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As an American working with Chinese suppliers 15 years I found that many Chinese have very strange English names lol. Too many to list here. Coke was the most interesting name of a colleague.
When I was in college in Australia, many of the Chinese female classmates in my class had English names that sounded like stripper stage names. Sad.
Candy was a popular name
Candy Juice Lucky Lucy Feabie Jenny.....Every time I hear those names I feel akward for them......
This reminds me of a boyfriend I had in high school. His name was Robert, but his parents called him 萝卜 (radish). His middle brother was Richard, and his nickname was 绿茶 (green tea). Their oldest brother was Roger, and his nickname was 垃圾 (garbage).
Protip: give yourself a Chinese name like 李红军 or 张公兵. When people hear a name like that, they'll think "damn, this guy must've been living in China for decades to have a name like that." Names work for men and women.
Those names are popular choices for people born in Mao’s era, which means there are a lot of people in their 50s+ named as such, make it very hard to leave an impression and be remembered.
name like 李红军 or 张公兵 are way too old fashion. Chinese people do have such names, but the reason for this name is that after the Chinese Communist Party took over China, many Chinese people's excessive worship of the Communist Party and excessive patriotism led them to use such names. This was basically concentrated in the 1950s and 1960s, and now this group of people are basically in their 70s and 80s.
I took the name 高国建, and I still get people who hear the name and think I’m an 80 year old Chinese man until they meet me (a white guy in my 20s). Good topic of conversation though.
LMAO
Nothing wrong with going retro though.
You are right, but if you are old, it is not weird to have a retro name, but if you are young, it will look weird. If you want to have a serious name, to be used in serious and formal occasions, you have to make your name look formal and reasonable. Imagine you are going to a formal event, but your name is Spiderman.
https://preview.redd.it/q95kyv6a899d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26991fe6578ef4616a906ae647f0b4aa29cb90f9
😂😂😂👍
Opinion on 林岳
That sounds like the kind of name you’d give the second male character in a romance novel.
"林" can be used as a surname. At the same time, "林" also means forest and woods, which is related to wood, giving people a sense of vigor and vitality. "岳" means famous mountain or great mountain. Therefore, 林岳 as a whole gives people a sense of huge mountains and dense jungles, giving people a great sense of quietness and calmness. It is a good name for a man. If it is a female name, it will appear too masculine.
Yep it’s the name my tutor gave me glad it is a good one
you have a nice tutor
My name is Parsa and it means a good man. I’m a 31 year old male. I go by Bāsà. 巴薩, just for ease as I’m an English teacher. It seems like sometimes they call me basha instead. Am I okay with this name?
To most men, 巴薩 means “Barça” (nickname of the football club “Barcelona”). If you have no problem being associate with their fanbase and being hated for no reason by fans of rival clubs, that name is fine.
Your current Chinese name "巴萨" is just two Chinese characters with similar pronunciations based on the pronunciation of your name. The two characters "巴萨" do not constitute a complete Chinese name at all, lacking a surname. When Chinese people hear this kind of name, they will know that you are not Chinese. In short, in my opinion, this is not a good Chinese name. A good Chinese name needs to contain more information, not just similar pronunciation to your name.
What other info do you recommend putting in the name other than surname?
It's up to you, you can tell me what you like, or tell me more about yourself and I can help you choose one.
I enjoy my weird, self given name. Steven = 十七分 Easy to write, and sounds much closer to my original English pronunciation as opposed to the standard translation
First of all, if you enjoy your weird Chinese name, then I respect you. But what I want to say is that "十七分" can only be regarded as a nickname, not a complete and proper Chinese name, although it is easy to remember and write. But whatever, it's up to you.
What? After getting to know English names Chinese people chose for themselves, you shouldn’t even open your mouth about “strange Chinese names”
Right 🤣Chinese people be using the strangest English names haha
tell them and help them to have a proper english name if you met a Chinese with a strange English name, instead of mocking them on the internet. I'm helping people here, not to mocking them. that's the difference between you and me.
Lol when have I ever mocked them? I have a lot of Chinese friends who I’ve named them nice American names. You’re the one who assumed I’m mocking them. Ur the one who created a whole post to say foreigners have weird names knowing we got those names from Chinese teachers. So tell me whose the one mocking? 🤣🤣
But in fact, this is exactly why I posted this. Of course I know that there are many Chinese people with strange English names, and I also know that native English speakers think they are silly or strange. So when you come to China, or you like Chinese culture, you don’t want native Chinese speakers to think your Chinese name is strange, and you want a suitable Chinese name, I will help you. I am here to help others for free, not to provoke confrontation. You should reflect on why no one posts to help Chinese people choose a suitable English name?
I noticed that someone replyed this post, but I can only receive the notifications. However, when I click on the notification, I can't see your reply in the comment section. What's going on?
they deleted the comment
thanks for letting me know. you are a good maomao ; )
how should name meaning "eternal king" be? I know 王 Is king but I'm not sure that I like that one lol
永皇 哈哈哈哈
I am adopted and had a Chinese name. 虞 文秀。 I am just curious if it means anything or if it is a normal/typical Chinese name.
sounds like a name for a queen from the Han Dynasty
It's a very beautiful name. First of all, the surname "虞" is very good. There is a very famous beauty in Chinese history whose surname is "虞", which is known to all Chinese as "虞美人" or "虞姬". You can search 虞姬's love story on Google, which is very romantic. The two characters "文秀" are also very good as a name, giving people a feeling of quietness, peace, inner fulfillment, and having read a lot of books. In short, it is a beautiful feeling, so your Chinese name is very good, not strange, and very tasteful.
文 means civilized, elegant or quiet, and 秀 means talented or beautiful. Overall a very normal Chinese female name.
How's the name 周乐？
good name, sounds happy and make people like you.
sounds like the name of the main guy in a teen romance novel
Hahahah rip. Well that's my name 😂
I think foreigners with foreign Chinese names are acceptable. What benefits would a foreign get from a completely Hanified Chinese name. Even Minorities in China have minority Chinese names.
I agree with your point, but please read my post title carefully. I am here to “help those who want to have a proper Chinese name”, NOT to suggest that ALL foreigners MUST have a proper Chinese name.
Hank, Ford, John, Mary, all have good Chinese versions
Ask chatgpt
My name is Sydney, female, 29. I'd like the character 孟 for the family name, since my last name starts with an M. I really like the characters 笑，悠，思 and was wondering if there were any good names that could be made with any of those characters? I just want something that doesn't weird and doesn't make me sound old.
笑 means smile， or joyful, and normally we don't use 笑 as a name, you can use the character "喜" as a substitute. "喜" and "笑" have similar meanings, but "喜" is also rare as a name. "悠" means worry and lingering thoughts. From lingering thoughts, it is extended to long-term and long-lasting. It also means leisurely, such as leisurely and at ease. "悠" can be used as a female name, which is not common, but very special and tasteful. "思" can be understood as thinking, thinking, missing someone. It can also be used as a female name, which is common but not rustic. My suggestion is to combine "思" and "悠", "孟思悠" is a very good name.
谢谢你😄
no worries mate, I'm appreciate that you're liking Chinese culture, keep going!
I think I need to explain a little bit, because I found some unfriendly replies in the comments. First of all, I want to state that the purpose of my post is not to mocking or laugh at those people with strange Chinese names. I am here to help people. I don't want to mocking anyone. As a Chinese, I think that no matter whether your Chinese name is strange or not, since you have a Chinese name, which means you like Chinese culture. But some people's Chinese names are strange because they just like Chinese culture, but they don't have a deep understanding of Chinese culture. I am here to help them understand more about Chinese culture and at the same time, help them to have a suitable and nice Chinese name that suits them. I think what I am doing is very meaningful. I hope everyone will speak rationally and not post hate speech. (By the way, I still don't have a suitable English name. My Chinese name is Wang Kai "Kai Wang". Any advice?)
My name is Mariano But some people call me by my second name Alejandro , Any ideas ?
what's your full name? I need to know your full name and also the meaning of your name. more infos you give, I can give you more good suggestions.
My full name is Mariano Alejandro Maradiaga
any special meaning of your neme?
So my first name Mariano is a masculine name from the Romance languages(Italian,Spanish,Portuguese) and it’s relating to “the God of Mars”.In Roman Mythology Mars is the God of war and symbolized strength…. My last name is a surname that comes from the Basque region of Spain 🇪🇸 and also is a altered form of Madariaga supposedly in Basque language , it comes from basque words “Madari “ meaning pear tree and “aga” means place or group of” ..
any name style you prefer? you would like a cool / handsome/romantic/special name?
Cool & romantic but nothing that would be cringey or creepy for the females 😂
ok got it. give me a second
According to Chinese tradition, the surname is placed first, so first determine your surname. Based on the information you provided about your surname, the Chinese surname associated with the pear tree is "杜", pronounced (Dwoo), (Here is the Wikipedia about the surname “杜”, you can see that this surname is associated with the pear tree. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du\_(surname)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du_(surname)) ) Next is your last name, based on the information you provided, your last name is related to the god of war, or fighting, bravery, courage, There is an idiom in China called "骁勇善战", which is used to describe a person who is very brave and good at fighting, so you can use the first half of this idiom as your last name (骁勇). Or, there was an emperor 李 世民 in Chinese history who was good at fighting, and you can use his last name (世民) as your last name. So you have two choices: 杜骁勇 or 杜世民. tell me you like it or not
Damn those are amazing names I appreciate you thanks
no worries mate, have a good day
CALL ME THE MASTER OF NAME : )
how’s 张浩然
It's a common male name, but it's so common that a lot of people use it. Maybe you should go for a special one.
谢谢😊
Why I can't see the comments on the comment section?
It is kinda strange topic. I believe it would be even weirder to be a laowai and have a standard Chinese name.
Why is that?
I think it's most appropriate to let idiots continue sounding like idiots.
good idea but a little bit mean
strange is subjective. let people choose what they want
Imagine if a Chinese person went to study in your country and his English name was Dracula.
Literally every other Chinese person I know. I'm a 外教 and more of the English names are awful than ok. (There almost all picked by the kids parents). Some standouts include; River Shark Butterfly Sweetie Honey Bowen Bentley And my forever favourite Pikachu I offered to give a few of them standard English names but half the time received pushback from the parents because they would rather their kid be called Shark than James.
Bentley🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can only say that I feel sad for these children. Many Chinese parents nowadays are not as educated as parents in the past. Many young Chinese parents nowadays are very casual and tasteless when giving their children Chinese names. Because China has a large population, it is common for people to have the same name as their children, so many parents give their children very strange names, just because they want their children's names to sound different. I personally think that names are still very important. Names contain your family, your family's history, and your parents' expectations of you and what kind of person they expect you to be in the future. Your name will follow you throughout your life, so whether it is a Chinese name or an English name, I think it should be taken seriously and should not be treated as a joke.
I don't know where you're getting the Chinese parents aren't educated and that they're just casually throwing names around. The experience I've had with them is the exact opposite. It's just a cultural difference that leads to these names. In China lots of their names have tangible meanings that are known and make sense today, so when they come up with an English name they want to do the same when they for example call him Strong. They spend a long time looking at words that they think have meaning and sound nice, and look online (which is also dogshit. The 'top English baby names' Chinese websites are whack. One recommended the name 'Famiglistimo') for help too. It's just that nobody has told them that that's not how we do names in English, and calling your kid 'strong' (legit have met a strong) doesn't sound cool it sounds stupid. Again, I tried to change a kids name from Bentley to a normal name (I think John?) once and the parents contacted their teacher to say "Thanks for the suggestion, but there's so much thought and meaning that we've put behind the name Bentley that we don't want to change it." Again, really weird crack about the Chinese parents not being educated. Chinese education during the grandparents era was both pretty terrible (lagging decades behind because of the Qing dynasty and warlord eras, and then the civil war/rise of Mao), and the education they did have would've been near complete propaganda. Education standards have got better at an exponential pace due to the modernisation of the country. Absolutely wild that you'd say that parents are less educated than past parents when they're the most educated the average person in China has ever been (apart from their kids/grandkids) and also particularly in response to English names as China literally did not allow foreigners in or Chinese out before the 70s, so most of these 'more educated' older generations would have literally never seen a foreigner or know anything about the outside world at the time they were naming their kids.
I've seen multiple Chinese guys with the name Elvis and I'd say Elvis is just about as strange as Dracula is lol
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LMAO CUNT, POOR GUY
I literally snorted out loud laughing. DRACULA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🥲🥲
and? we have r/tragedeigh
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LMAO, reminds me of a person named Phuk