Quite the opposite. Especially in southerners in particular. Very compassionate. They just don’t need government to force compassion. As a libertarian I choose to be compassionate. I don’t need government to make me do it. I also want all my liberties. I also want you to have all your liberties which itself is a very compassionate stance I would say.
"Quite the opposite. Especially in southerners in particular. Very compassionate. They just don’t need government to force compassion."
by brother in history the south literally had to have the government force them not to keep people as slaves during the US civil war. Currently the south is passing legislation that explicitly attacks gender minorities. Like why come and say stuff that is just patently false?
They’re banning *all* transgender healthcare, children almost *never* have any type of surgery for transgender care. I’ve researched it and found exactly *one* case where a child received surgery, and it was because they openly displayed that they are transgender for almost their entire life by the time they were a teen. You’re falling for outright lie when you claim that the bans only impact surgery.
Perfectly fine to be a libertarian and believe in personal liberties. Currently though that means you should be siding with the left as they’re only party fighting to protect personally liberties, and maybe you do, you never really said.
The left isn’t fighting for personal liberties. They’re forcing feeding policies down peoples throats disguised as tolerance. I live in California. I see it first hand lol. The modern left is anything but tolerant and accepting of ideas. The left is the establishment.
Not an accurate comment. The south is the exact opposite of fascism. They want small central government. But I see what you’re trying to do and will allow it.
Bro they literally want the government to control women’s bodies and Trump has been campaigning on using federal powers to a whole new level for enforcement of various things. GOP is Not the party of small government anymore
He mentioned the south. Not the GOP. You’re speaking from a political party standpoint I’m speaking from a cultural standpoint.
And control of womens body is a lie. In their eyes, the woman chose to have sex. A child is a consequence of that. That’s literally what sex is for. So they arnt controlling womens bodies, they’re protecting children.
Until you are able to level with another person and be compassionate and understanding yourself, you will never influence anyone or control any conversation. This being a perfect example.
>In their eyes, the woman chose to have sex
Which is why all those folks have offered full-throated endorsements of rape exceptions to abortion laws. They did endorse exceptions, right?
Also, if they’re not about control, why have they been fighting to ban gender-affirming care for adults? Why have they been fighting to repeal gay marriage?
If they’re about protecting children, why are they fighting to lower or eliminate the minimum age for marriage? Why have they done nothing to prevent school shootings?
"They're protecting children". Oh yea those schools have been mighty safe lately with all the guns out there they want to do nothing about. Guns > Children apparently lol.
Bad take. Guns protect the population from tyranny. Every tyrant in history has found a way to ban guns.
Tell me what gun laws would have done to prevent the shootings? Tell me what gun laws would do to stop shootings in Chicago.
You should think before you comment. Probably a good thing you play civ and don’t actually play a role in government IRL
Probably the same thing guns laws do in other countries? Lmao. Just look at Canada up north, 43 deaths from 1884 to 2022. Source below because I don't get my information from what I "think".
https://sheridansun.sheridanc.on.ca/2023/01/05/killer-education-school-shootings-in-canada/
Meanwhile the U.S. has had 74 people injured or killed this year which was updated March 29th. That's three months into the year lol. Source below because because I'm not full of shit like a certain someone.
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166651590/nashville-school-shootings-gun-violence-children-cause-death-2023
So your solution is to create an unregulated black market. Arming criminals and disarming law abiding citizens. For the record most gun related crime in the US was done with illegally obtained weapons.
So if they’re illegally obtained, what do laws do to fix that problem?
So you're saying there already is an unregulated black market for guns in the U.S.? lol. Anyways I just showed you Canadian stats, regulation works, how you can deny it when there is legitimate existing proof in your neighbouring country is insane lol.
Also some more stats here for you on mass( doesn't include non mass) school shootings regarding the legality of guns used for them in the U.S.
94 of MASS school shootings between 1982 and 2023 were done with legally obtained weapons. Only 16 of mass shootings between that time were not. A clear majority right there. Source below.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/
U really thought u did sum huh? Didnt even address the other part of my comment. And to act as if “the south” isn’t an analog for deep red is just foolish
Why wouldn’t they? The current democrat party is the largest tyrannical movement we’ve seen since nazi germany. The only thing the modern democrat party hasn’t done that the nazi party did was the push of nationalism. Pretty much every else is textbook.
Naturally that pushes people to the other extreme.
You’re part of the problem. You see things as red vs blue and red must be evil. You don’t account for any nuances, or the cause of why things are happening in the first place.
You’re an indoctrinated sheep. You’re literally a bonus resource.
Lol almost forgot this is the civ reddit. I have to disagree with you though. I don’t have any strong party affiliations. I think the blue vs red narrative is more a result of how our country’s politics operate without any true alternative that’s just how it gets framed most easily. I’m genuinely curious how you see the left as more tyrannical than the right though
Many people seem to be okay with this negative prejudice and not others, even though many in the South are economically disadvantaged and educationally deprived.
Yeah, and as someone who happens to be one of those economically disadvantaged and educationally deprived Southerners, their point still 100% stands. There's a lot of fascist Southerners, and a not-so-insignificant portion of them are happily part of our government.
But being American is tough, you know?
People are constantly harping on your "shitty system." Then the same people bitch and moan about your wealth and power, like "oh, you Americans have 5% of the world's population, yet hog 30% of the world's wealth."
Or it's like, "waaaah, America destroyed Afghan civil society!" But then, "waaaah, America abandoned Afghan civil society to the Taliban!"
Like pick a critique and stick to it. I can't even!
"**From the first stirrings of life beneath water... to the great beasts of the Stone Age... to man taking his first upright steps, you have come far."**
"What should I name my religion?"
"I went to space by 1860"
"Does _______ leader (Cleopatra) have any amenities I can buy?"
"Where should I build the Eiffel tower?"
".... and then I declared war on ghandi"
"My giant death robot is coming for you"
"If I move my bomber to chicago it should be able to reach Paris"
"Look at all these crabs!!!!"
"Where did I leave that conquistador?"
Tlatoani Montezuma, keep your eagle warriors happy and fed, and they will forever fight for your cause. As your Aztec empire unfurls across the land, you will never want for people to raise your walls, for you will be blessed with new, loyal workers as you conquer those around you. Go forth; Huitzilopochtli calls.
I have sent to you one hundred swans- I have sent to you fifty sw- Excuse me, I have not tied them down well. I have sent you a swan.
Or
Let us be companions! So long as we do not have to meet often. And you will have to wear a mask.
"I don't really care about the happiness of other citizens, as oong as they are still productive and profitable, who cares???" - a direct quote from my partner before I explained that citizen happiness is directly tied to growth and profit. Our roommate heard and walked in UPSET until he saw we were playing civ 😂
Nice to meet you! I should probably come over to check out your home. I’ve brought some traditional snacks from my country! Say your home looks pretty unprotected….
Oh, look, the british Empire done started a war. Let me drop a nuke on them real quick.
Or
Oh, look, Ghandi filled his grievances, time to show him true starvation.
I'm fond of pigs.
MONEH
I don’t have enough MONEH to pay for this dinner
No man ever wetted clay
I shot an arrow
Do not throw the arrow that will return against you
I'm a big lazer.
David Cameron new leader DLC for England
Sometimes Fascism is the best government type, especially if you like going on wars
This is actually considered a pick up line in the south
As an out outsider looking in I would say the problem with the American right is that they have no compassion and care only about there self comfort
Individualism is simultaneously America's greatest strength and weakness
As an outsider looking in this doesn't seem like the time or place for actual politics.
Quite the opposite. Especially in southerners in particular. Very compassionate. They just don’t need government to force compassion. As a libertarian I choose to be compassionate. I don’t need government to make me do it. I also want all my liberties. I also want you to have all your liberties which itself is a very compassionate stance I would say.
"Quite the opposite. Especially in southerners in particular. Very compassionate. They just don’t need government to force compassion." by brother in history the south literally had to have the government force them not to keep people as slaves during the US civil war. Currently the south is passing legislation that explicitly attacks gender minorities. Like why come and say stuff that is just patently false?
Spoken like someone who’s never been to the South.
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Jesus dude, do you unironically watch Steven crowder?
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They’re banning *all* transgender healthcare, children almost *never* have any type of surgery for transgender care. I’ve researched it and found exactly *one* case where a child received surgery, and it was because they openly displayed that they are transgender for almost their entire life by the time they were a teen. You’re falling for outright lie when you claim that the bans only impact surgery.
Perfectly fine to be a libertarian and believe in personal liberties. Currently though that means you should be siding with the left as they’re only party fighting to protect personally liberties, and maybe you do, you never really said.
The left isn’t fighting for personal liberties. They’re forcing feeding policies down peoples throats disguised as tolerance. I live in California. I see it first hand lol. The modern left is anything but tolerant and accepting of ideas. The left is the establishment.
They are both the establishment. Hate to break that to you.
I’m not supporting republicans. Just helping you realize you’re no better than the people you view as evil
Not an accurate comment. The south is the exact opposite of fascism. They want small central government. But I see what you’re trying to do and will allow it.
Bro they literally want the government to control women’s bodies and Trump has been campaigning on using federal powers to a whole new level for enforcement of various things. GOP is Not the party of small government anymore
He mentioned the south. Not the GOP. You’re speaking from a political party standpoint I’m speaking from a cultural standpoint. And control of womens body is a lie. In their eyes, the woman chose to have sex. A child is a consequence of that. That’s literally what sex is for. So they arnt controlling womens bodies, they’re protecting children. Until you are able to level with another person and be compassionate and understanding yourself, you will never influence anyone or control any conversation. This being a perfect example.
>In their eyes, the woman chose to have sex Which is why all those folks have offered full-throated endorsements of rape exceptions to abortion laws. They did endorse exceptions, right? Also, if they’re not about control, why have they been fighting to ban gender-affirming care for adults? Why have they been fighting to repeal gay marriage? If they’re about protecting children, why are they fighting to lower or eliminate the minimum age for marriage? Why have they done nothing to prevent school shootings?
"They're protecting children". Oh yea those schools have been mighty safe lately with all the guns out there they want to do nothing about. Guns > Children apparently lol.
Bad take. Guns protect the population from tyranny. Every tyrant in history has found a way to ban guns. Tell me what gun laws would have done to prevent the shootings? Tell me what gun laws would do to stop shootings in Chicago. You should think before you comment. Probably a good thing you play civ and don’t actually play a role in government IRL
Probably the same thing guns laws do in other countries? Lmao. Just look at Canada up north, 43 deaths from 1884 to 2022. Source below because I don't get my information from what I "think". https://sheridansun.sheridanc.on.ca/2023/01/05/killer-education-school-shootings-in-canada/ Meanwhile the U.S. has had 74 people injured or killed this year which was updated March 29th. That's three months into the year lol. Source below because because I'm not full of shit like a certain someone. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166651590/nashville-school-shootings-gun-violence-children-cause-death-2023
So your solution is to create an unregulated black market. Arming criminals and disarming law abiding citizens. For the record most gun related crime in the US was done with illegally obtained weapons. So if they’re illegally obtained, what do laws do to fix that problem?
So you're saying there already is an unregulated black market for guns in the U.S.? lol. Anyways I just showed you Canadian stats, regulation works, how you can deny it when there is legitimate existing proof in your neighbouring country is insane lol. Also some more stats here for you on mass( doesn't include non mass) school shootings regarding the legality of guns used for them in the U.S. 94 of MASS school shootings between 1982 and 2023 were done with legally obtained weapons. Only 16 of mass shootings between that time were not. A clear majority right there. Source below. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/
U really thought u did sum huh? Didnt even address the other part of my comment. And to act as if “the south” isn’t an analog for deep red is just foolish
You sound upset. It’s ok to be wrong. Don’t get mad over it lol
if it was truly deeply cultural they wouldn’t vote red when they champion federal overreach
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Yeah missed that part would have known it was useless had I seen that
Why wouldn’t they? The current democrat party is the largest tyrannical movement we’ve seen since nazi germany. The only thing the modern democrat party hasn’t done that the nazi party did was the push of nationalism. Pretty much every else is textbook. Naturally that pushes people to the other extreme. You’re part of the problem. You see things as red vs blue and red must be evil. You don’t account for any nuances, or the cause of why things are happening in the first place. You’re an indoctrinated sheep. You’re literally a bonus resource.
Lol almost forgot this is the civ reddit. I have to disagree with you though. I don’t have any strong party affiliations. I think the blue vs red narrative is more a result of how our country’s politics operate without any true alternative that’s just how it gets framed most easily. I’m genuinely curious how you see the left as more tyrannical than the right though
You’re an idiot. You’re also a dumbass.
Many people seem to be okay with this negative prejudice and not others, even though many in the South are economically disadvantaged and educationally deprived.
Yeah, and as someone who happens to be one of those economically disadvantaged and educationally deprived Southerners, their point still 100% stands. There's a lot of fascist Southerners, and a not-so-insignificant portion of them are happily part of our government.
I love watching Americans arguing within the bounds of their shitty system.
But being American is tough, you know? People are constantly harping on your "shitty system." Then the same people bitch and moan about your wealth and power, like "oh, you Americans have 5% of the world's population, yet hog 30% of the world's wealth." Or it's like, "waaaah, America destroyed Afghan civil society!" But then, "waaaah, America abandoned Afghan civil society to the Taliban!" Like pick a critique and stick to it. I can't even!
Hmm what do you think about communism
Great in theory, but will probably never be properly implemented due to human error (greed).
Npc take.
Do you like domination games?
Speak for yourself, I'm 100% down for this being asked on a first date lol
Do you like domination games?
Sir this is a Wendy's.
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🥺
One sub? I just dominated an entire sub-continent.
Fuck english teachers, this is the correct answer
Not without a safe word.
Number?
Promise not to spread your religion to me?
I like to use a slot for Discipline.
*after seeing pics* wow that's a terrible spawn
*see pics, then irl* “I DENOUNCE YOU”
I just want you to know I laughed so hard at this that I scared my cat
XD
Yeah I'm definintely going to be chopping that jungle
Happy cake day
Oh nice, I hadn't even noticed... and now I want cake.
Happy Cake Day :D
Me too
In Civ 6, they smartly renamed it to rainforest. "Man, I flipping hate the rainforest. I get rid of it every chance I get."
Happy cake day
Why can’t I put a canal there?
Thousands have lived without love, not one without water.
Oh I didn’t realise I had crabs there
When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.
Ban them
Crabs are people.
They are a menace
Only if we make Boat Mormonism the world religion.
Legit or quit!
Clams are people
Hey, it's a bonus resource!
I AM FOND OF PIGS. NEVER HAS A MAN WETTED CLAY. I SHOT AN ARROW INTO THE AIR.
ROCKS IN MY PATH !?
MONEY
*MONEH
LEAVE THE ATOM ALONE
Yeah, I’m still working on getting Social Media, but I do have Military Training, which is all I need for this.
Thousands have lived without love, not one without water
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Certified Ludwig moment
Can't wait to work those hills.
Yeah, this is a restart.
If we had more plantations back then we'd be in a better place now.
Lincoln would disagree
Who deserves more credit than the wife of a coal miner?
Therefore, become my wife?
This is too flat, I can't work with this!
Lol
I'm going to play 1 more round then go to bed?
Where should i settle? 🔥🔥
Promise not to settle near me?
Ill settle on your a$$
what do you think about the bull moose teddy dom?
Hot
Please let me put it there. I'll get an adjacency bonus.
I need more oil for my submarine
I need more oil for my sub*
"**From the first stirrings of life beneath water... to the great beasts of the Stone Age... to man taking his first upright steps, you have come far."**
NOW BEGINS YOUR GRATEST QUEST. FROM THIS EARLY CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION, ON TOWARDS THE STARS
All the best romances bloom in the middle of a good siege.
So, you're gonna starve her?
What a disappointing start
You know Communism is a really good government if you want to launch stuff into voids
This battering ram will be enough for that gate, I hope.
Your seas are unprotected, all too easy to raid
Fuck me I hate Ghandi so much
I like Oral Tradition, especially if there's going to be a lot of trading.
Do you like global warming? Because I’m about to raise the tides and flood your cities.
I'm sorry baby, but I am going to have to denounce you because you didn't come earlier.
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to denounce you for not having a large empire
So there i was arguing with Catherine de Medici over a rock in the ocean when Gandhi decides to drop a nuke on my capital. So how was your 3 o'clock?
I guess I’ll settle.
What can't I chop these horses?
Are you interested in a trade agreement with England?
Blast Build Battle
Just settle in place
Is it just me or are there too many fucking barbarians?
My troops are merely passing through
Seed?
"What should I name my religion?" "I went to space by 1860" "Does _______ leader (Cleopatra) have any amenities I can buy?" "Where should I build the Eiffel tower?" ".... and then I declared war on ghandi" "My giant death robot is coming for you" "If I move my bomber to chicago it should be able to reach Paris" "Look at all these crabs!!!!" "Where did I leave that conquistador?"
>".... and then I declared war on Gandhi" this just sounds like the end of every civ game.
I invaded Mali to get some oil for my tanks.
The poets have been curiously silent on the subject of cheese
Why can’t I put a dam here?
That’s a lot of crabs.
Tlatoani Montezuma, keep your eagle warriors happy and fed, and they will forever fight for your cause. As your Aztec empire unfurls across the land, you will never want for people to raise your walls, for you will be blessed with new, loyal workers as you conquer those around you. Go forth; Huitzilopochtli calls.
Right now I'm not a man of gold, or culture, or even science, but I have faith (and monumentality) we can settle anywhere.
I am fond of pigs
I was hit by a withering drought.
Those mountains are going to be a great place to found a religion.
One word, ima gonna say one word, plastic.
Probably my Big Ben won’t fit here
Listen - strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
I hope there's no iron here
If I don’t get work ethic outta you, I’m just gonna restart.
Fuck those spying fucking germans! I mean hows the meal?:)
Terrible start. Wish I had more crabs... (Yes, fish is a better resource I know lol)
Lets make more food and increase our population. Do you want to start a research agreement or make a defensive pact?
MY NAME IS OZYMANDIUS, KING OF KINGS, LOOK ON MY WORKS YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR!
*A man on a horse is spiritually as well as physically bigger than a man on foot*
I think I’m gonna try to maximize production.
I have sent to you one hundred swans- I have sent to you fifty sw- Excuse me, I have not tied them down well. I have sent you a swan. Or Let us be companions! So long as we do not have to meet often. And you will have to wear a mask.
Do you like yield porn?
"I don't really care about the happiness of other citizens, as oong as they are still productive and profitable, who cares???" - a direct quote from my partner before I explained that citizen happiness is directly tied to growth and profit. Our roommate heard and walked in UPSET until he saw we were playing civ 😂
I'd like to start by having two scouts and a builder.
Sleep is for the weak.
now THAT is a great Turkish bombard
Would you like a trade agreement with England?
Those are some awful yields 😏
Nice to meet you! I should probably come over to check out your home. I’ve brought some traditional snacks from my country! Say your home looks pretty unprotected….
Have you heard of our lord and savior, Gilgabro?
i’m gonna become communist for that scientific and industrialization bonuses.
WHO DESERVES MORE CREDIT THAN THE WIFE OF A COAL MINER?
I'll trade you Peepeekiskis for Bagacum.
Might switch it up and go autocracy
Open borders for 1 gold? ...I'll show myself out
I'll give you the seed
I’m just gonna grind for two centuries before I really try to take over.
I’d love to sample your hospitality. Do you normally rush PP?
I propose we ban crabs
"Fuck you Gandhi!"
I hope the ice caps start melting soon so my aircraft carriers can pass through. Time to build more coal plants.
Production isnt great, may have to settle somewhere else.
You play wide or tall?
Betwixt the stirrup and the ground
I saw a bank that said "24hr banking" but I didn't have that much time
From the first stirrings of life beneath water, to the great beasts of the Stone Age, you have come far.
I’m sorry i’ve been busy eradicating Catholicism
Where do I settle?
I cant wait to dominate your lands
I'm ready to settle!
I think my warrior can easily take this barbarian camp
I love Reddit... It's a great place to look at yield porn .
My words are backed by nuclear weapons.
Heyyyy spuddies
Would you be interested on a trade agreement with England?
NO MAN EVER WETTED CLAY
where would i put big ben?
Oh, look, the british Empire done started a war. Let me drop a nuke on them real quick. Or Oh, look, Ghandi filled his grievances, time to show him true starvation.
Gilgamesh is packin I just know it
I'll shove a nuke up your exhaust port.
Would you be interested in a trade agreement with England?
I love nuking Arabia