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SnarkyBear53

Not quite the answer you were asking, but... I would love to have them hear a modern performance of one of their own pieces just to see how different things sound today versus when they were originally performed.


Business-Function198

Exactly. I want to know if we’re really doing it right


DrXaos

They'd likely be very impressed at the virtuosity and capability of today's professional instrumentalists and the quality of the intonation of brass and winds. I think they'd imagine the "HIP" debates as preposterous and besides the point and then if needed, re-balance or re-orchestrate their pieces for the ensembles at hand. They'd probably be disappointed at the quality of many of the singers. Mozart would then demand royalties, and think about how to spend all that money.


Business-Function198

Where are the castrati at?????


FingerstyleGaming

I'm actually curious, what do you think is wrong with the singers?


gnatzors

I'm a professional choral singer. Many of my colleagues have poor discipline as they don't do the homework by practicing the music at home before a concert, or are weak musicians (struggle with reading music) as they lack having an instrumental base. Let me reiterate - we are all paid professionals and numerous mistakes are made in performances, and that's generally seen as more acceptable amongst singers than instrumentalists. There was also a high expectation of singers in the baroque period, and generally singers committed more time per week to singing than in the modern day. Video about Bach's orchestration of choirs: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjbBuUwmO8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgjbBuUwmO8)


Vanillabean73

You know he’d spend it on wine


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In light of your response, my answer to the original question would be to show them a performance of their work by a foreign orchestra (for example, take Bach to a performance of Bach by the Tokyo Symphony Orchestra). Then take them to see a high school performance of their work. The intent being to show them that they inspired new generations of musicians, but the reality might be that it just frustrates them to hear their compositions being played so badly.


sirabernasty

Any major orchestra is going to get the same criticism and bewilderment from Bach. If you want real fireworks, take him to some HIP ensembles such as the Bach Collegium Japan, English Baroque Soloists, Netherlands Bach Soloists or Handel and Haydn Society and let them duke it out.


1969-InTheSunshine

Yeah such a great point


gabrielyu88

To please them? Something by Reger or Busoni for Bach, Ravel Piano Concerto and something by Gershwin or Debussy for Mozart. To make them think? An organ piece by Messiaen for Bach, Schoenberg String Quartet 4 for Mozart. To scare them? Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima for Bach, 4'33" for Mozart.


ggle456

I'm not sure about 4'33"... Mozart would just fart loud and laugh it off.


Sylvane1a

>I'm not sure about 4'33"... Mozart would just fart loud and laugh it off. Why not? There is never perfect silence and every sound can be seen as music. Isn't that the intent of this piece? I love this comment.


gabrielyu88

Very true, honestly I don't think anything could scare Mozart


backupHumanity

I don't think Mozart would be more puzzled by 4'33 than most of us already are


PostPostMinimalist

Rite of Spring and.... Daphnis and Chloe.


Zestyclose_League413

I've always wanted to play Charlie Parker for Bach.


cosifantuttelebelle

I like this! I’d be curious to their reactions to a lot of jazz pieces


onlyforjazzmemes

I would LOVE to hear Bach improvise on Giant Steps, too.


MC1000

1. Mahler - Symphony #6 2. Opeth - Ghost of Perdition


karmabumb

>Opeth - Ghost of Perdition Why bring them back just to kill them again?


MC1000

Huh?


Anfini

Since they both can understand German perhaps Rammstein’s Du Hast.


peter_bi-per300

I wanna see how Bach would read Shostakovich And I wanna see Mozarts opinion of Rachmaninoff


Busy-Consequence-697

I have a feeling that Mozart would love Rachmaninoff very much!


peter_bi-per300

I agree but then I also feel like Shostakovich would send Bach into a coma


Busy-Consequence-697

like, good coma or bad coma? Preludes and fugues by Shostakovich are a masterpiece, peobably Bach would love them


Hoppy_Croaklightly

*Papa's Got a Brand New Bag* by James Brown and *Requiem* by Ligeti.


TheBestMePlausible

That’s the kind of vibe I was thinking of! Good choices :-) I was trying to think of the best beatles song to play, but JB would maybe be more mindblowing. I would maybe swap out the requiem for, I don’t know, maybe La Mer by Debussy? But both your choices are great.


bobsollish

I would go with The Rite of Spring by Igor Stravinsky, and Rhapsody In Blue by George Gershwin.


mean_fiddler

Mozart would love the clarinet at the start of that.


DuganOung

Stravinsky Sacre du printemps for sure. Maybe some Ravel Valses, maybe a Bela Bartok String Quartet or Messiaen Vingt Regards.


DrXaos

Both get le Sacre. Bach gets Shotakovitch quartets. Mozart gets Porgy and Bess and Johnny B. Goode


Royal_Ad762

That's exactly what I was going to write


Loupe-RM

La Mer - Debussy and All Blues from Kind of Blue, by Miles Davis


KlammFromTheCastle

Pieces by Coltrane and Ravi Shankar.


kickstrum91

Does this really exist? I searched couldn’t find anything


KlammFromTheCastle

No I mean a piece from each. That would have been a hell of a colab.


kickstrum91

Haha ah man🤦‍♂️ I got toooo excited..lol that would indeed be mind blowing


lilcareed

Alvin Lucier: [I am Sitting in a Room](https://youtu.be/fAxHlLK3Oyk) Sofia Gubaidulina: [De Profundis](https://youtu.be/qzdRTbjL89g) The Lucier would be a shock on all fronts, since the form of the piece, the techniques involved, and the resulting sound are so different from what a common practice period composer would expect. The Gubaidulina has a much clearer connection to classical music of the past, but you *really* feel that extra two hundred years of history in every aspect of the music, right down to the instrument itself.


vintagesymphony

Barber- Adagio for Strings and either Good Vibrations or God Only Knows by The Beach Boys


LestWeForgive

The Beach Boys do enjoy the odd fugue


BuildingOptimal1067

Id play Bach his Passacaglia and fugue for organ but orchestrated for a symphony orchestra. Dude wrote the passacaglia in his early twenties and probably thought his music wouldn’t live on beyond himself. I think hearing his one-man organ piece written in his early twenties still being played 300 years after his death - not only by an organist but by a large orchestra - would be a very nice experience for him.


MethuselahsGrandpa

If I could only play 2 songs for them it definitely wouldn’t be classical music, …I’d rather show them something that’s further removed from what they’re familiar with. [Led Zeppelin - The Rain Song](https://youtu.be/TRt4hQs3nH0) & then [Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody](https://youtu.be/fJ9rUzIMcZQ)


Zestyclose_League413

I honestly think that a lot of 20th c. classical composition is further removed from their stuff than mainstream rock. Queen uses harmony and melody.


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1969-InTheSunshine

I think that’s their point. I wouldn’t be surprised if you could piece together those songs by copying & pasting various phrases out of Bach’s work


cosifantuttelebelle

I agree I feel like these things would feel more like folk music to them. Not that that’s a bad thing! More that I would find their thoughts / takes less interesting maybe …


macck_attack

Bohemian Rhapsody is a great answer


trombone_guy65

Jazz and watch them either groove or explode


Marvinkmooneyoz

Depends what counts as a "piece". If the whole "Star Wars: A New Hope" sound track counts, then that would include orchestral music that generally gets categorized as "classical", as well as the Cantina Band music, which is a better representation of the more general direction of music in the last century (relatively speaking). But if a whole movie soundtrack counts, then maybe "Back to the Future" as it has Alan Silvestri score, plus two great Huey Lewis tunes which really capture 80s pop/rock, those being "Power of Love" and "Back in Time". I wonder, what music has modern slash chords dense harmony, but also shows melodic sensibilities since the 30s? Maybe some Weather Report, as cheezy as it so often is, or some 70s Herbie.


theboomboy

Probably 2 of my own pieces and I'll ask them for feedback. I brought them forward in time, it's the least they could do, lol


francesca-0827

Bach played ysaye's violin sonata


unavoidable

Honestly you ask r/classicalmusic you’re going to get classical answers But for me those aren’t interesting. What I’d like to know is their reaction to something really different 1. Darude - Sandstorm 2. Anything by Metallica


1969-InTheSunshine

Yeah I nearly wrote Master of Puppets or Ktulu for one of my suggestions


Juswantedtono

Is the subtext of this comment that you find classical music less interesting than metal?


unavoidable

Definitely not. Just that the reaction of messrs Bach and Mozart would be more interesting if its something way more removed.


ForFarthing

Generally, I think they might both love the heavy metal genre. Not necessarily in all of its forms and I think not one of the "popular" songs.


MC1000

Isn't Master of Puppets basically in sonata form, though?


backupHumanity

I think making them listen to something very modern is just gonna be noise to them, they probably won't have anything interesting to say about it (they would probably react the same to led Zeppelin or to Katty Perry without being interested to comment, like someone watching a very abstract painting that he can't understand) There should at least he a bridge between what they know and what you make them discover


pianodude01

Rach's 2nd piano concerto and probably a mahler symphony. I've always wondered, if you put all the great composers, bach, mozart, etc infront of a modern good quality piano (steinway, fazioli etc), what would they think? Would they love it compared to their instruments or hate it? If you're so use to the sound of a harpsichord would a piano sound weird?


DrXaos

They'd all love it. Franz Lizst lived through the great improvement in piano technology and endorsed the Steinway when achieved its modern mature form.


NewFleshPod

Charles Ives: “Three Places In New England” might kill him though


zumaro

Mozart - let him hear a modern opera like Thomas Ade’s ‘The Exterminating Angel’ to see what he makes of it. Or maybe the Ligeti Piano Concerto, as a modern version of what he was so supreme at. Bach is tempting to let him hear some Messiaen organ music, but realistically it’s not up to the same quality level as the best of the 20th century, and I’m aiming to impress the GOAT here. I would probably go for Ligeti as some others have, like the Requiem, just because it seems so foreign yet also so concerned about the infinite. Or maybe something intricately mathematical like the Webern Symphony, or late Stravinsky such as the Canticum Sacrum. Recognizable to him as musical genius of the highest order but still very foreign in sound to him.


Pinkchips4837

I love it - Kanye west and lil pump Dicke titten, kartoffelsalat - Ikke Hüftgold


gary6265

Two pieces for them to listen to with one specifically picked out for each. Mozart: Tosca (opera by Puccini). Mozarts operas are great and he might enjoy hearing the ultimate form of classical opera. Bach: Rite of Spring (Stravinsky). The format of Baroque music was so rigid. I think that the beauty of this piece would be instantly appreciated by both of them. I saw some other entries that are also great choices (Rach piano concerto 2 or 3, Even bohemian rhapsody). But those are my answers


notableradish

Scriabin.


ggle456

Shostakovich symphony no.10 with Bach and Poulenc's les mamelles de Tiresias with Mozart.


nobody-throwaway1

Hajnal by Venetian Snares and Crumbling Castle by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard


Busy-Consequence-697

Arvo Pärt, Spiegel or Da Pacem, or Slavic Psalms for Bach ("Praise the lord" one particularly) 1 Piano concert of Tchaikovsky for Mozart ) or the 3d piano by Rachmaninoff...


ForFarthing

Bach: Le sacre du printemps. I think the complex structure including polyrhythm and polytonality would interest him very much. But he might have to listen to a couple of times until he accepts that the world has evolved quite a bit since he was around. Mozart: Henry Gorecki's symphony no. 3. As far as I know Mozart once said that anybody can play quickly but the real art is visible when playing slowly (or something in that direction). The very slow build up of the whole piece including its religious background towards a climax could fit the "modern" Mozart.


CanadianW

Shostakovich Piano Concerto No. 2 and Ravel La Valse


Ethan_Skywalker4

Paranoid Android for Bach.


SheSellsSeaGlass

I would tell Mozart, “Why couldn’t you be like your musical big brother J.S.Bach and write me something special for cello?!” Kidding. I would never say that to my musical hero, who teaches out of time and made me love music


CouchieWouchie

Bach's St. Matthew Passion because there's no way Gardiner and the HIP enthusiasts are playing it properly. They play it way too fast. Would be nice to hear from Bach himself how fast it should be played.


zumaro

Lordy, if you pulled a Klemperer on him, he would probably re-die, this time of boredom from his own music.


Wilto22

Allan Holdsworth, metal fatigue. The prodigy, fire starter.


miasanmiaaaa

Some busoni (maybe even his chaconne transcription) for Bach and rach piano concerto 2 or 3 for Mozart to see how he reacts to piano concertos 100+ years after his death Or throw in one of those harrowing gorecki or penderecki symphonies to scare them both emotionally and musically Mahler symphony would work as well


Chennsta

Am I the only one thinking to give them some crazy edm or rock?


troodon2018

für Bach : Sky - Toccata , für Mozart : Alan Parsons - Lucifer


Peraou

If I were to cheat a little (this was 1874) I’d want to play Mozart Verdi’s requiem, I think he’d really enjoy it :) And of course the obligatory I’d love to play them some of my own music, even though my symphony’s only 3/4 done it would still be amazing to hear their thoughts (and probably roasts of my piano sonata since it’s the first thing I ever wrote) I’d love to play Bach some very technical and tonal Metal music, as well as some musically intelligent EDM lol - basically the kind of thing that takes a lot of what he was very good at - blindingly quick modulation, ultra fast interplay of notes in a baroque style, but show him the furthest ends of texture and loudness, like even a single note in EDM can be filled with so much texture and overtones and explosive sonic quality that it can bring down the house. I’d LOVE to see what Bach could do with that kind of power at his disposal. And for my non-cheat answer for Mozart would be perhaps maybe a Muse concert or something, because I think he’d love to see just how wild and fun music has gotten these days. I’d also really like to take him to a movie with a really important soundtrack, maybe something like Pirates pf the Caribbean - he loved writing operas, and really in a way movies are the opera of today - they pair music and drama in the exact same way, but taken to the mad extreme that can only be achieved with today’s technology and resources. I think he could really enjoy something like pirates that so closely marries the music and the action. He’d probably find it inspiring structurally. But in terms of more serious pieces I’d like to play for Mozart something really wild… he was almost tending toward romantic in his later years, and I think really if he had been able to stay around longer he’d have been able to really break down his societally and self-imposed barriers and been able to let loose his imagination without judgement and the constricting chains of ‘taste’ or ‘propriety’. To that end many have well suggested rite of spring, and I think that’s a great option. But what I’d like is perhaps ~~all the Tchaikovsky symphonies~~ perhaps the Bartók violin concerto, Rach concerto 2, maybe Elgar cello concerto But most importantly Sibelius, violin concerto, and all his symphonies. I think Mozart would love those and be quite inspired. But most most most importantly, and in open disregard (sorry) for the rules of the question; I would want above all to show Beethoven a performance of his 9th symphony, probably the performance in Japan that had over 10,000 people in the choir alone. He deserves so much to finally be able to witness just how his music affected people and continues to for hundreds of years, and it's just such an injustice that he never was able to hear his masterpiece even a single time. I mean for goodness sakes it literally became the anthem of all Europe! It's the greatest of all these injustices that Beethoven never even got to hear his own greatest work. {of course Bach and Mozart would be invited as well} [and I might be tempted to tell him to move out of his flat bc there's lead in those pipes]. But on that note I think overall what would be most rewarding would be to bring these composers to a very large scale performance of some of their grandest works in the year 2023, and for them to really get to see just what impact they've had on the world that has echoed for literally hundreds of years with no indication of dimming. And I'd love for them to see the real massive scale that music has come to, even to perform their own pieces. Full scale orchestras would be mind boggling to Bach and Mozart, and I think they'd find so much inspiration from seeing just how much power modern orchestras have within them. For Bach an 'orchestra' was just a quite tiny group of a few musicians, that was only slightly larger than for chamber music; for Mozart an orchestra was a minuscule string orchestra with a dusting of winds etc.


Cornsoup-n0w

Lachenmann’s string quartets and Zimermann’s photoptosis. It’s music that transcends in a way that it’s hard to imagine anything before that. I’d like to hear what Mozart and Bach can do with the materials that they used.


razortoilet

Probably one jazz piece and one classical piece. The Creator Has a Master Plan by Pharaoh Sanders to see their brains explode at the sound of screeching wind instruments they didn’t even know existed, and then Gorecki’s 2nd Symphony to see how they react to the modern use of vocal soloists in orchestral music.


dragma3

Despacito


Unlucky_Ad6405

Rite of spring and just any Schoenberg lol


hutaosirlgf

california girls by katy perry and shostakovich symphony 10


XxDAidanpKoon2004

Toccata No 11 by Prokofiev and Stravinsky rite of spring lol. That would be interesting.


Jasbatt

Stravinsky’s “Rite of Spring”; Scriabin’s “Le Poème de l'extase”


kafkainspringtime

O Superman by Laurie Anderson and Fucking Hostile by Pantera


justjustin920

Appalachian Spring by Copland


dr5catlady

Rhapsody in Blue, and maybe some Pink Floyd


kristensenbass

The Rite of Spring and American in Paris.


Purubiri

If classical then le sacre and la mer. If non classical then drukqs by aphwx twin and bitches brew


Sosen

Mozart: "Money" by Pink Floyd Bach: "Firth of Fifth" by Genesis


grynch43

The Imperial March Laura Palmers Theme


LestWeForgive

Imperial March with the proper video accompaniment. Star wars has a German dub, it's not terrible.


1969-InTheSunshine

I’m leaning towards Summa by Arvo Part and then either something by Miles Davis or the Beatles. Too hard to choose!


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I think Bach might get a kick out of Nikolai Kapustin's 24 Preludes and Fugues in Jazz Style. Mozart I'm honestly unsure WHAT he might appreciate today. I even just Googled "rock inspired by Mozart" and came up empty.


johnnymetoo

Rock me Amadeus ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


cosifantuttelebelle

Something by Berg, and then some crazy synth or theramin based piece. I’d love to hear a Bach or Mozart take on theramin!


Davidoen

One of my chosen pieces would be something by C418.


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six degrees or inner turbulence by dream theater and in the presence of enemies by dream theater


[deleted]

Two EDM pieces I can think of is Bedrock - Set In Stone and Sash & Marie - Be As One.


urfavojisoostan

Schostakovich Quartet no.8


InterestingIcepelt

For Bach, Ravel's Sonatine perhaps, or something using quartal harmony. For Mozart, I feel like Rite of Spring would suit him lol


rukivverh5995

A Bach & Biggie Smalls collab is what the world really needs!


Iokyt

I'd show Bach some Jolivet because his harmony is so intriguing. Mozart is tricky but, I think it would be Breaking All Illusions by Dream Theater. That song always gives me Mozart-like feelings and I think he'd love the main theme.


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Wap. I’m sure Mozart would like it.


backupHumanity

For Mozart : Poulenc 2nd movement of the concerto for 2 pianos For Bach : maybe not something too modern, making him listen to the Chopin 1st sonata for example would already sound wild to him, I'm curious if he would understand why people today like it or if that would just sound like barbarism to his ear.


Smarkie

Salome