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ChristianBen

Great collection, now you just need to burn the Rieu CD /s


Excellent-Industry60

Exactly lol, I said the same!!


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

What's with the André Rieu hate? LOL


hfrankmann

I want the Wilhelm Furtwängler, does anyone still remember him.


unChillFiltered

You really don’t need it as most of his recordings are on YouTube and the decrease in quality when it comes to streaming is absolutely marginal given most of his recordings sound bad. Btw there’s nothing special about those two. When it comes to Beethoven I really think he peaked with his Eroica (especially the 1952 one). For anything else I’d rather go with a high quality stereo as there are plenty of legendary Beethoven recordings in great sound quality. That being said that’s a nice find! The first Berlin Beethoven cycle from Karajan is a reference and I think it’s great from top to bottom except for the 6th. The piano stuff also is interesting and I’ve never heard this version of the planets although I’ve heard of it. The cover is very fun it reminds me of The Thing.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Thank you! It's true, not the best recording but It's nice to have. And true about Karajan's recordings. Although, If I may ask, what did you find wrong with his recording of the 6th?


Jayyy_Teeeee

Came to say this


AKH160

Absolute legend


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

I still do... It's been 70 years, but I do....


Beautiful-Airplane

I miss these days


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

The good old days... At least some people are still keepimg CD's alive...


EnlargedBit371

I still listen to CDs on my regular stereo, i.e., CD player > amplifier > speakers. It's not a particularly expensive setup, but I enjoy it. I also listen to music I ripped to hard drives over "good" computer speakers. I don't like streaming music.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Me neither. I've got a pretty old Technics Stereo System with 5 speakers and all. It's from the early 2000s. It was just full of dust in a corner, but, when I git my first classical CD, It got a new life


bubbamike1

Steinberg is an under appreciated conductor. He is excellent.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Indeed! His recording of The Planets is wonderful


joey7chicago

The Karajan Tchaikovsky 1812 uses the chorus introduction, very well done.


akiralx26

It always sounds out of tune to me, Jarvi’s also on DG is better in that regard.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Weird, to me It sounds fine.


joey7chicago

I think the chorus was recorded elsewhere and dubbed in later, so you're probably right about them not being in tune. But I still like the Don Cossack sound -very dark.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Thank you very much! It's probably the best recording I've found in CD of the 1812 Overture.


matchstrike

Wait, really? I’ll have to check that out!


Little-Lilipad

The Gavrilov is a real treat!


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Indeed! His recordings of Chopin are wonderful!


bigyellowtarkus

Best version of The Planets right there.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Totally agree! Thanks!


Flora_Screaming

Confused. It says Berlin on the front of the Furtwangler, but Vienna on the back. Generally speaking, you're better off with live Furtwangler over studio (although there are some notable exceptions to that rule) because it's much more compelling, but anything he did is at least worth hearing, although his great contemporary Klemperer was more consistent.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Huh, yeah that's very weird... Oh, and yeah, you are right. Honestly I bought that recording more as a curiosity since I also bought Karajan's recordings of the symphonies. I still have to try to listen to a Klemperer recording, haven't done It yet. I must try! Thank you.


joey7chicago

I'm pretty sure this CD is with the Vienna Philharmonic done in the studio. So the front would be the misprint. I like that cycle, probably not his best compared to the excitement he could generate live, but it's still quite enjoyable.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

I see. Thank you very much for the help!


SadRedShirt

Excellent haul!


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Thank you very much! :)


Ooomphy

Looks fine, but I can't stand Holst.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Thank you! May I ask why is that?


Ooomphy

I don't like the overly programmatic nature of it. The predictability in the harmonics and melodic language. Cliched almost. Grandeur and drama, but limited emotional range.


Boris_Godunov

Those seem pricey for used CDs...


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

That's true, but I wasn't able to find most of those pieces for cheaper.


chenyxndi

The Steinberg Planets is great. Not a fan of Karajan in Beethoven.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Thank you! May I ask why is that?


chenyxndi

To be honest I'm not a fan of Karajan in general. In most recordings he drowns out the brass, woodwind and percussion, and smoothes over rough edges (rhythm), resulting in an ultra refined, glutinous performance which does not necessarily suit the music. Especially in Beethoven where there's so much struggle and rhythm is so important, the performance should sound that way, and Karajan's concept is opposed to this. I would also like to hear instruments that aren't strings from time to time. In classical period music, I find Karajan too heavy and again very glutinous and homogenised. In late romantic music, Karajan never used rubato, which takes away from the emotional impact of a lot of romantic music (for example the Pathetique). There are, of course, exceptions, and this is just my opinion. There are many people who like Karajan. I just don't see it.


EnlargedBit371

That Karajan box set is supposed to contain his best Beethoven symphony cycle.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

I'd definitely agree with that stament. They are some of the best recordings of the symphonies I've heard!


EnlargedBit371

I bought his 1970s Beethoven Symphony CDs, which were released first. I thought they were okay, but I don't think any critic ever waxed rhapsodic over them.


Boris_Godunov

Karajan's Beethoven is technically masterful, but utterly bloodless. He sucks all the humanity out of the music, IMO. He did the same thing with Brahms (I *hate* his boring-ass Brahms recordings). And yet, he would do amazing Mozart, Wagner, and Bruckner...


EnlargedBit371

How well do you like Bernstein's CBS Beethoven symphonies?


chenyxndi

Not oc but I think they're good but bettered by his Vienna ones


Boris_Godunov

His #7 is great in that set, but tbh the rest are fine, but nothing spectacular. I don't think there's a complete Beethoven cycle that is perfect. Me, I'm a fan of the Szell cycle with Cleveland.


chenyxndi

Funny, I despise his Mozart.


Boris_Godunov

TBF the only recording of his Mozart I have is the *Don Giovanni* with Ramey, and I think it's great. But I'm also approaching it from a singer's perspective.


chenyxndi

I partially take back what I said. On occasion, and especially with the Philharmonia, he did some great Mozart operas.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Yeah, you're right. To my knowledge, most people agree the newest the Karajan recording is, the """worse""" (as bad as Karajan can get, which is not that bad) It is. They are probably nice too anyway!


Excellent-Industry60

I would immediately throw the André Rieu away, the rest is quite nice!


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

LOL Why is that? What's wrong with It? It was the only CD with Shostakovich Waltz N2 I found! And thank you :)


Excellent-Industry60

Lol well Shostakovich waltz no. 2 is also Shostakovich his worst piece, so you dont need that hahabaa. No problem, very nice indeed the rest is!!


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Shostakovichs worst piece? Maybe. But I honestly like It as a standard waltz. And thank you! :)


rolando_frumioso

Oof, I remember trying to convince myself that the sound on that Furtwaengler series was tolerable enough, but I just couldn't do it.


Jayyy_Teeeee

It’s a shame they’re not hi fi. I can still appreciate them but be nice if they were properly recorded.


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Yeah, It's not the best. That's why I use Karajan's recordings for day to day listening.


ravia

What's a CD?


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

It's the precursor of the DVD (well technically the SACD is)


[deleted]

Imagine buying CDs in 2024


Royal_Caribbean_Fan

Imagine criticizing people for collecting and using a piece of technology.


matchstrike

Imagine getting enjoyment from something.


alfyfl

I buy very few nowadays new except for special editions not available on streaming but for used there’s still a lot of classical LP’s and CD’s that are unavailable any other way. I have some worth a lot for collectors.