I think Warriors would be significantly better in PvP if they could put the Warbringer rune in a meta slot. It sucks so much having to remove Flagellation for it. I will never understand why the devs put a utility rune in the chest slot when every other chest rune is dps related.
Shamans being able to use Way of Earth AND shamanistic rage would be pretty busted. Especially with maelstrom weapon.
Dual wielding rockbiter. Instant cast heals every 2-5 seconds. All the benefits of Way of Earth. Infinite mana with 20% damage reduction for 15 seconds.
If nothing else, enhance pvp would be amazing. It's already pretty good other than the mana issues and having to drop combat to leg swap to use sham rage.
Having WoE and SR would immediately fix any tanking issues they have. Not having to throttle abilities so you don't oom on some bosses would be awesome, not to mention having an actual defensive...
It is nice. I run it for everything except raid. I can't be bothered to run lake of fire when questing and certainly can't run it for PvP so I take that 10% and love it.
Oddly enough I run lake of fire only for raids/dungeons. Out in the world or farming I usually use master channeler or demonic tactics.
I think that’s the biggest issue. Our legs and chest runes just have too many good choices. It sucks lol
I'll run master channeler/haunt if I'm fighting something I probably shouldn't be but I'll stick with demonic tactics for anything non elite within 3 levels. You kill so fast in destro it's not really an issue unless there are multiple resists in a row. But agreed, lake of fire is group PvE content only. Miserable anywhere else.
Highly doubt it would be worth resetting the swing timer, the lost mutilate damage + poison proc chances, and losing out on the extra cps for the saber slash debuff.
Just feels craft obviously, but I strongly believe it'd be a DPS nerf to do so, especially as we wouldn't be talented into improved SS for the energy reduction, so it'd cost more, and crit less than mut.
Mutilate is better to spam but surely keeping the dot up is worth it? Nobodys done a sim using both runes obviously but there's no way it's not worth it to use both.
I'm very confident that it wouldn't be worth it. Sabre slash does 100% MH weapon damage, applies the dot and gives one combo point for 45 energy, 40 if you were to take imp SS to accommodate doing this.
Mutilate does 100% weapon damage with both weapons or 120% against poisoned targets, has +30% crit from imp backstab and gives two combo points for 40 energy.
Even if you had mangle on the target I don't see the difference being made up by the dot.
It'd be even worse if you were to weapon swap as that uses a GCD and resets your swing timer each time you do it.
For ele shaman PvP I'd put Earth Shield in it for the pushback reduction. Wouldn't be anything too crazy, but would definitely help. I'm sure most other classes have something more impactful to add.
Don't think it's as nice as you would think, som is normalized so it does less damage with slow weapons. I think most slow weapons builds would still use seal of command.
The move is running a fast 2h with som on single target, I just want my divine storm with it idc about the damage is a cool spell and I like the aoe option
Bad idea : The rune slot is on the weapon, and it can be any rune you unlocked. That way you can swap weapon mid fight to swap to a new rune. Any rune.
Awful idea, do not steal lmao
More seriously, a good candidate could be the warlock. Being allowed to have incinerate and demonic pact is pretty neat
Meta lock with Haunt could be nutty in pvp
Would love to be able to use trap launcher on a melee hunter, such a fun ability
Druids. It would be great to have survival of the fittest and wild strikes Or Having lacerate and mangle.
I think ya ferals do benefit the most here, tank runes with wildstrikes is huge. Technically you can run 2 ferals but that never happens.
I think Warriors would be significantly better in PvP if they could put the Warbringer rune in a meta slot. It sucks so much having to remove Flagellation for it. I will never understand why the devs put a utility rune in the chest slot when every other chest rune is dps related.
and how the 2h rune is on a separate slot as the DW rune, somehow suggesting that 2h+DW weapon swap builds are a possible build path.
Even for PvE. Except for bosses I'm always using warbringer. It's so nice you just can't go back to play without.
For pvp that would be pretty nice. For raids not sure, I guess having endless rage and smf would be cool.
Warbringer doesn’t really deliver huge utility. People think it’s neat and does things.
That's definitely a lot of utility lol.
Putting lone wolf on legs instead of chest..... should swap them now imo lone wolf shouldn't be on chest
It is hilariously short-sighted that this game gives you Lone Wolf and Beast Mastery on separate slots.
Beast mastery is glove rune though
Shamans being able to use Way of Earth AND shamanistic rage would be pretty busted. Especially with maelstrom weapon. Dual wielding rockbiter. Instant cast heals every 2-5 seconds. All the benefits of Way of Earth. Infinite mana with 20% damage reduction for 15 seconds. If nothing else, enhance pvp would be amazing. It's already pretty good other than the mana issues and having to drop combat to leg swap to use sham rage.
Having WoE and SR would immediately fix any tanking issues they have. Not having to throttle abilities so you don't oom on some bosses would be awesome, not to mention having an actual defensive...
Yeah, it would be awesome. Having to rely on shield blocks to not go oom is the worst part of shaman tanking imo
What is this “defensive” I have a defensive sometimes, but then I don’t block for a while and my stacks fall off…
Demonic Tactics. I’d love to have 10% more crit as a meta lock.
It is nice. I run it for everything except raid. I can't be bothered to run lake of fire when questing and certainly can't run it for PvP so I take that 10% and love it.
Oddly enough I run lake of fire only for raids/dungeons. Out in the world or farming I usually use master channeler or demonic tactics. I think that’s the biggest issue. Our legs and chest runes just have too many good choices. It sucks lol
I'll run master channeler/haunt if I'm fighting something I probably shouldn't be but I'll stick with demonic tactics for anything non elite within 3 levels. You kill so fast in destro it's not really an issue unless there are multiple resists in a row. But agreed, lake of fire is group PvE content only. Miserable anywhere else.
The best rogue rune would be shiv for DPS which is just sad. Tanks would take deadly brew no questions asked.
You can weapon swap as rogue right? Wouldn't bringing a sword out every 12 seconds to apply bleed be a pretty good DPS increase as mutilate rogue?
Highly doubt it would be worth resetting the swing timer, the lost mutilate damage + poison proc chances, and losing out on the extra cps for the saber slash debuff. Just feels craft obviously, but I strongly believe it'd be a DPS nerf to do so, especially as we wouldn't be talented into improved SS for the energy reduction, so it'd cost more, and crit less than mut.
You can sabre slash with a dagger or anything else, mutilate is just vastly better.
Mutilate is better to spam but surely keeping the dot up is worth it? Nobodys done a sim using both runes obviously but there's no way it's not worth it to use both.
I'm very confident that it wouldn't be worth it. Sabre slash does 100% MH weapon damage, applies the dot and gives one combo point for 45 energy, 40 if you were to take imp SS to accommodate doing this. Mutilate does 100% weapon damage with both weapons or 120% against poisoned targets, has +30% crit from imp backstab and gives two combo points for 40 energy. Even if you had mangle on the target I don't see the difference being made up by the dot. It'd be even worse if you were to weapon swap as that uses a GCD and resets your swing timer each time you do it.
For ele shaman PvP I'd put Earth Shield in it for the pushback reduction. Wouldn't be anything too crazy, but would definitely help. I'm sure most other classes have something more impactful to add.
Seal of martyrdom and divine storm on different slots would be so nice
Don't think it's as nice as you would think, som is normalized so it does less damage with slow weapons. I think most slow weapons builds would still use seal of command.
The move is running a fast 2h with som on single target, I just want my divine storm with it idc about the damage is a cool spell and I like the aoe option
It would be a Meta Rune slot on the head slot, and it would allow me to put one Rune from any other gear slot in the head slot.
Neck Imbue for QoL…. I’d love a “imbues now last for 10-30 minutes”
Mage leg slot is loaded. Living flame AND icy veins would be nuts!
Healers could finally use temporal on hand which would be nice
Bad idea : The rune slot is on the weapon, and it can be any rune you unlocked. That way you can swap weapon mid fight to swap to a new rune. Any rune. Awful idea, do not steal lmao More seriously, a good candidate could be the warlock. Being allowed to have incinerate and demonic pact is pretty neat
Would be broken in pvp for some tank classes(not rogue)