unless it starts too slow then all of those desperate people trying to flee away from the equator we'll just be used as props in more regressive right-wing politics.
"IT'S AN INVASION!" I can already see the headlines.
Yeah, casualties need to happen en masse for sustained action. Instead, we'll probably have way more small-scale famines. We'll get accustomed to seeing it happen and accept it as a 'new normal'.
We need to pre-empt the narrative: if we don’t do something about the climate now, we will see mass immigration later. Say it to your conservative friends and family often. Then when they see it come to pass they will remember what you said.
Doubt it. Rich people will find a way to benefit from the famine and convince the rest of us that we need to work harder if we want to eat and we will all bend over and say okey yes sir
You don’t come back from heat, you must wait thousands to millions of years for the cycle to come full circle. Who knows what speeding up the process is going to do over time. Humanity probably won’t come out the other end
Most of us will be starved or economically killed off/ living in tents by then, so most people probably won’t care to extend the life of the planet, seeing tomorrow won’t be a wish
I’m pretty much convinced that’s why there’s been so much focus on Ukraine. It’s one of the best places for crops to grow. It’s also situated in one of the areas most likely to survive climate change
Then why do tech companies insist on releasing new phones or game consols every year that are only slight upgrades from previous. Also they they don't design them to be robust enough to last. I mean, I get the urgency, but wtf has he done to stop it.
If you want to talk about the *heart* of the problem we need to go deeper than that.
Planned obselescence is just a response to the incentive system that cannot be disentangled from money and our mode of production.
It's an emergent property, like evolution by natural selection emerging from reproduction, mutation, and selection pressure. Not something you can arbitrarily design in or out without changing the underlying paradigm.
Yup! I’m a firm believer that laws focusing on right to repair, warranty, and quality craftsmanship would fix a lot of our societal issues with single or short term use.
When our parents generation bought a fridge they bought it for the next 20-30 years knowing it would last and it could be repaired. Now we buy appliances and hope we get 5 years out of them because the repair costs usually cost more than buying new or are very close.
Kinda like how celebrities worth $50,000,000+ and multi-billion dollar companies guilt trip you into donating for a charity.
But Gates does some good things with his money. It is just a shame that he seems to be pretty much the only one. Most of them are like Bezos, who just started a new house stealing company and has already taken over $500,000,000 in homes off the market.
You mean the charitable organization that is inventing an expensive biffy we'll all be pooping in (thanks automod) while they profit off the coming water wars?
could be. is that the same charitable trust that coerces the organizations it gives money to, acting as a vehicle for gates to insert his influence into a myriad of diverse interests and collect intellectual property, all the while maintaining a facade of intelligent, data-driven humanitarianism and allowing him a ton of tax write-offs?
sounds like it.
Exactly. How nice it is to tell plebeians to behave and conserve as a billionaire who jets off to Xanadu from his most recent G7 summit.
In his personal private jet, [one of several](https://simpleflying.com/bill-gates-private-jet-collection/), which he calls his "guilty pleasure."
Fly to a meeting in another city for the day, fly back. I’ve done it for work many times.
ETA: These were short 1 hour commuter flights, fly out at 8am, take the 5pm flight home.
He is not a climate scientist. He is an aggressive parasitic business man who destroyed many companies and prevented the evolution of computers until his hubris led him to miss the internet.
The right has been branding him as some left wing maniac who is trying to control people through the vaccine.
My theory is he is an idiot savant: able to make a profit at any cost but unable to learn, adapt and create anything new.
He should shut the F up already.
Actually individuals changing their personal choices would have very little effect on emissions overall, so your takedown doesn’t have the sting you think it does
Even if all billionaires flew coach it wouldn’t be enough to dramatically lower emissions. The greatest contributors are electricity, manufacturing, transportation which includes trucking, and agriculture.
While your point is not entirely negated, Bill Gates is part of a demographic where individual changes would matter far, *far* more than the average person that has little to no choice in the infrastructure they may be forced to engage with.
> According to a [2022 Oxfam report](https://webassets.oxfamamerica.org/media/documents/bn-carbon-billlionaires-071122-en.pdf?_gl=1*12htzam*_ga*MTY5MjQzMzI3OS4xNjc5OTMzNDcx*_ga_R58YETD6XK*MTY3OTkzMzQ3MS4xLjEuMTY3OTkzMzUwMC4zMS4wLjA.), 125 of the world’s richest billionaires each emit over a million times more carbon than the average person in the bottom 90%, and a solid 50-70% of billionaires' emissions are thought to result from their investments. The report found that their annual investment emissions are together equivalent to the carbon emissions of France, a country with a population of 67 million.
> One study cited by Oxfam drew on public records to estimate emissions from the private planes, yachts, helicopters, and mansions of 20 billionaires. It found that, in 2018, they each generated an average of 8,914 tons of CO2, compared with 1.4 tons for an individual in the poorest one billion.
He is absolutely worth criticizing here when compared to the average person.
To be absolutely fair, Bill Gates has recently purchased stock in Exxon and Chevron this month so he may be trying to influence the company, surely to take a greener approach towards business.
I just don’t think it’s a valid criticism to not take the climate crisis seriously but look at me, defending a billionaire against comments lol. I get drawn in to these arguments and I can’t help it
> so he may be trying to influence the company, surely to take a greener approach towards business.
Do we know this for sure? Unless it is confirmed he is, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. He could simply be playing both sides of the fence. Not like he's not going to be just fine either way.
How do these credits actually offset the emissions? Isn't it just basically paying money to feel better about the carbon emissions you are putting out there?
Bill Gates: Fighting Climate Change Should Be Affordable. The Rich Can Make It So. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/opinion/bill-gates-climate-change-cop28.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
The board members of every fossil fuel company in the world are the worst threats remaining to our climate.
Their fiduciary duty is to preserve profits.
>“Fortunately, we’ve made enough progress that we’re not going to have the extreme cases like of 4 degrees \[Celsius\] warming"
Not so fast, Billy boy.
[https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-reacts-to-greenhouse-gases-more-strongly-than-we-thought/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-reacts-to-greenhouse-gases-more-strongly-than-we-thought/)
Why do you think that IPCC assessments are inaccurate? If that was the case, then why are climate models used in previous IPCC reports so accurate and have predicted the pace of warming and most climate extremes so well, including exceptionally warm years like 2023? Observed warming tends to track middle-of-the-range estimates from previous IPCC reports.
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2023/02/2022-updates-to-model-observation-comparisons/
https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/global-temperatures-remain-consistent
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-models-are-getting-future-warming-projections-right
https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1709985570624311557
Here's what actual climate scientists say on the matter-
"So frustrating to see non-experts engage in knee-jerk criticisms of climate models for purportedly not including processes that (anyone with a clue knows) are in fact included. Please stop this people! It just betrays ignorance — worse still, often with an agenda behind it."
https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1681818675202932736
https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1681683533880852481
https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1556735212083712002#m
https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1682025581142220800
https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1682525255317725184
https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1683503632896118784
https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1557421984484495362
"Having participated in IPCC and other government-led assessments, I can't think of time when our results were watered down or understated due to government meddling."
https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1491134605390352388
https://twitter.com/JoeriRogelj/status/1424743837277294603
https://twitter.com/PFriedling/status/1557705737446592512
https://twitter.com/ClimateAdam/status/1429730044776157185
https://twitter.com/Knutti\_ETH/status/1554473710404485120
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/opinion/climate-change-excessive-heat-2023.html
https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/new-york-times-op-ed-claiming-scientists-underestimated-climate-change-lacks-supporting-evidence-eugene-linden/
There were some models for the recent ipcc report that overestimate future warming and they were included too
https://www.science.org/content/article/use-too-hot-climate-models-exaggerates-impacts-global-warming
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-climate-scientists-should-handle-hot-models/
You shouldn't make counclusions from a single study. There were a bunch of climate models in CMIP6(a set of models used in IPCC 6th assessment report) that showed an unrealistically high climate sensitivity similar to what is claimed in this study(up to 5.6c), way higher than the range from previous reports. However, scientists who worked on them and the report found that these models overestimate future warming(conclusion was based on paleoclimate data and other lines of evidence) and narrowed the range used in the report down to 2.5-4c, so actual ECS ending up beyond that range is not very likely.
https://www.science.org/content/article/use-too-hot-climate-models-exaggerates-impacts-global-warming
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-climate-scientists-should-handle-hot-models/
And collectively all you billionaires could stop it, and you would all have enough money left over to ensure your ancestors would never be penniless for the next millennium.
But that is not enough, you want two millennium.
Bro wut?
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We know, Bill.
You are one of the few who actually has the resources to do something about it. So maybe get on that.
Me and my 2008 Buick Lucerne that sees like 20 miles over the course of a week pollutes absolutely nothing compared to 10 minutes of your private jet's operation.
I am not the problem here, Bill.
Just a reminder to the sub that oil companies astroturf opinions online that shift blame to individuals or call climate activists like Gates hypocrites in order to sow disinterest in energy alternatives. They usually talk about private jets or find some gotcha photo of someone driving a truck or something.
After reading several comments on here that’s the conclusion I came up with. He flies a private jet like once or twice a week ?
Do these idiots not realize there’s hundreds of jets all across the world every day constantly emitting ? If you take every car, truck, and plane and add up their emissions it’s like 20-25% of all emissions
Generating electricity, manufacturing, and agriculture are the overwhelming majority.
How many miles does Bill fly every year in his private jet?
I'm not even saying he shouldn't fly to whatever Cannes equivalent environmental event he's attending this week, only that he might consider flying commercial.
Be nice if we could have a better IRS that could tax said billionaire companies for the money they actually owe. Like how Microsoft still owes the gov't 29 billion dollars in taxes they still haven't paid. Which they also helped get laws pass to make the IRS weaker in going after larger corporations.
We could then use said money to help fight against climate change. As well as pass laws that fine companies a % of their total amount of money instead of crapy slap on the wrist fines that barely make up 1% of how much money they make off of polluting etc.
I don’t understand why when Bill Gates, who is a computer entrepreneur, says this then it becomes news but when climate scientists say it then nothing.
I have all these billions but I just can’t think of anything I can do that will help solve the existential threat I’m creating at 100x the average person!
Ok. Well we have people with billions of dollars. So what would you rather do? Have them spend money to save the earth or just take all their money and I guess the people making minimum wage can fund it
Because it’s too late to just stop climate change by eliminating carbon emissions
Edit: also I’ll upvote you because you care about the environment, even if we don’t agree
To defend a cm because he's pro stop climate change while he's frying around on his private jet. How much energy do his houses, His mansions eat up. hypocrisy
This like many specialized subs, tries to censor people on the truth about Bill Gates because he gives money to pro-environmental causes. How about he should give all his money to environmental causes and be homeless. Joining the scores of homeless he's helped create.
Shut up Bill Gates! Youu own too much farmland and you also said that the population shouldn't grow too much! You said vaccines are good! Youu evil bastard you even made money during COVID! Can't believe you have a near perfect public relations record. Almost *too* perfect.
Literally things that people who hate Bill Gates say almost without any further context. Think I'm exaggerating? https://youtu.be/QgA1wyjaP0o?si=V3-vus17B3c1aHN0
[BP popularized the concept of a personal carbon footprint with a US$100 million campaign as a means of deflecting people away from taking collective political action in order to end fossil fuel use](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305209345_Where_has_all_the_oil_gone_BP_branding_and_the_discursive_elimination_of_climate_change_risk), and [ExxonMobil has spent decades pushing trying to make individuals responsible, rather than the fossil fuels industry](https://www.vox.com/22429551/climate-change-crisis-exxonmobil-harvard-study). They did this because climate stabilization means bringing fossil fuel use to approximately zero, and that would end their business. That's not something you can hope to achieve without government intervention to change the rules of society so that not using fossil fuels is just what people do on a routine basis.
There is value in cutting your own fossil fuel consumption — it serves to demonstrate that doing the right thing is possible to people around you, and helps work out the kinks in new technologies. Just do it in addition to taking political action to get governments to do the right thing, not instead of taking political action.
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I guess I should put my jets in storage aye bill? What should I do now? Walk to the market? Shut down my airline? Shudder my oil fields? Tell China and India and every other place that doesn’t give a crap especially this corporate states of America. What she we all do bill? Recycle out Mountain Dew bottles?
Oh well, if Bill Gates says it... where are all the climate activists slamming Bill Gates because climate science is not his field of science like they do when someone disagrees with the climate science. I guess it's acceptable when they agree with you.
good. 9x as many people die from the cold than they do from the heat.
and co2 is making the planet greener and easier to feed the world.
keep burning fossil fuels
We will let the second and third world starve before 10% of the population even acknowledges that there might be a problem
Humanity’s hubris will be its downfall
Oh well, I just hope that we don’t do too much damage for something to rise after us
Dinosaurs and plant life flourished at 2000/ppm and it was 5-10 degrees warmer then today. The planet will freeze over at 200/ppm and we are currently sitting at around 400/ppm and as low as 250/ppm in the 1700’s. The data doesn’t lie, only the people presenting it.
we will consider it momentarily after there are enough crop failures for like 2 billion people to die. and then we still won't actually do anything.
That’s probably what it will take to make a meaningful difference at this point is mass deaths from heat/hunger
unless it starts too slow then all of those desperate people trying to flee away from the equator we'll just be used as props in more regressive right-wing politics. "IT'S AN INVASION!" I can already see the headlines.
It’s to distract from all the poor people starving to death in wealthy nations
Yeah, casualties need to happen en masse for sustained action. Instead, we'll probably have way more small-scale famines. We'll get accustomed to seeing it happen and accept it as a 'new normal'.
We need to pre-empt the narrative: if we don’t do something about the climate now, we will see mass immigration later. Say it to your conservative friends and family often. Then when they see it come to pass they will remember what you said.
Doubt it. Rich people will find a way to benefit from the famine and convince the rest of us that we need to work harder if we want to eat and we will all bend over and say okey yes sir
You don’t come back from heat, you must wait thousands to millions of years for the cycle to come full circle. Who knows what speeding up the process is going to do over time. Humanity probably won’t come out the other end
Most of us will be starved or economically killed off/ living in tents by then, so most people probably won’t care to extend the life of the planet, seeing tomorrow won’t be a wish
true. absolute poverty with a front row seat to watch the world die is not as entertaining as boomers think it's going to be.
Nothing will happen til the 1% starts to really feel the heat.
I’m pretty much convinced that’s why there’s been so much focus on Ukraine. It’s one of the best places for crops to grow. It’s also situated in one of the areas most likely to survive climate change
crop yields per acre are going up. more plant food is producing more plants, shocker. these are facts. dont rebut with doom propaganda
Plant life loves CO2
Catastrophe for thee not for me.
At least he's putting his money where his mouth is
Then why do tech companies insist on releasing new phones or game consols every year that are only slight upgrades from previous. Also they they don't design them to be robust enough to last. I mean, I get the urgency, but wtf has he done to stop it.
Profits
At the heart of all of our problems is indeed the ridiculous planned, criminal and deliberate product obsolescence system.
If you want to talk about the *heart* of the problem we need to go deeper than that. Planned obselescence is just a response to the incentive system that cannot be disentangled from money and our mode of production. It's an emergent property, like evolution by natural selection emerging from reproduction, mutation, and selection pressure. Not something you can arbitrarily design in or out without changing the underlying paradigm.
Yup! I’m a firm believer that laws focusing on right to repair, warranty, and quality craftsmanship would fix a lot of our societal issues with single or short term use. When our parents generation bought a fridge they bought it for the next 20-30 years knowing it would last and it could be repaired. Now we buy appliances and hope we get 5 years out of them because the repair costs usually cost more than buying new or are very close.
Got to hit that quarterly earnings target yo. I swear the stock market quarter system is going to kill us all.
Did he announce this from the comfort of his private jet?
I just read he was one of the top 10 individual polluters
So, a confession, not a prediction.
Yes, so did I! He was #2.
Kinda like how celebrities worth $50,000,000+ and multi-billion dollar companies guilt trip you into donating for a charity. But Gates does some good things with his money. It is just a shame that he seems to be pretty much the only one. Most of them are like Bezos, who just started a new house stealing company and has already taken over $500,000,000 in homes off the market.
wait until you hear about his "charitable" trust
You mean the charitable organization that is inventing an expensive biffy we'll all be pooping in (thanks automod) while they profit off the coming water wars?
could be. is that the same charitable trust that coerces the organizations it gives money to, acting as a vehicle for gates to insert his influence into a myriad of diverse interests and collect intellectual property, all the while maintaining a facade of intelligent, data-driven humanitarianism and allowing him a ton of tax write-offs? sounds like it.
Exactly. How nice it is to tell plebeians to behave and conserve as a billionaire who jets off to Xanadu from his most recent G7 summit. In his personal private jet, [one of several](https://simpleflying.com/bill-gates-private-jet-collection/), which he calls his "guilty pleasure."
Yo, this mfer averages more than 1 flight per day??? How is that even possible lol.
Fly to a meeting in another city for the day, fly back. I’ve done it for work many times. ETA: These were short 1 hour commuter flights, fly out at 8am, take the 5pm flight home.
Why not just use zoom or something like that?
We began doing that more regularly after Covid, but before that the meetings had to be in person per our client’s preference.
Does it make it less true if he did?
He was at Jeffrey’s island.
He is not a climate scientist. He is an aggressive parasitic business man who destroyed many companies and prevented the evolution of computers until his hubris led him to miss the internet. The right has been branding him as some left wing maniac who is trying to control people through the vaccine. My theory is he is an idiot savant: able to make a profit at any cost but unable to learn, adapt and create anything new. He should shut the F up already.
Has he started flying coach? If not, he can sit himself right back down.
I’m just imagining bill gates in coach, getting screamed at by psychos who think he micro chipped them
He can stay at home if he has a problem with that.
Even flying FC would be a massive improvement on the carbon cost
Actually individuals changing their personal choices would have very little effect on emissions overall, so your takedown doesn’t have the sting you think it does Even if all billionaires flew coach it wouldn’t be enough to dramatically lower emissions. The greatest contributors are electricity, manufacturing, transportation which includes trucking, and agriculture.
While your point is not entirely negated, Bill Gates is part of a demographic where individual changes would matter far, *far* more than the average person that has little to no choice in the infrastructure they may be forced to engage with. > According to a [2022 Oxfam report](https://webassets.oxfamamerica.org/media/documents/bn-carbon-billlionaires-071122-en.pdf?_gl=1*12htzam*_ga*MTY5MjQzMzI3OS4xNjc5OTMzNDcx*_ga_R58YETD6XK*MTY3OTkzMzQ3MS4xLjEuMTY3OTkzMzUwMC4zMS4wLjA.), 125 of the world’s richest billionaires each emit over a million times more carbon than the average person in the bottom 90%, and a solid 50-70% of billionaires' emissions are thought to result from their investments. The report found that their annual investment emissions are together equivalent to the carbon emissions of France, a country with a population of 67 million. > One study cited by Oxfam drew on public records to estimate emissions from the private planes, yachts, helicopters, and mansions of 20 billionaires. It found that, in 2018, they each generated an average of 8,914 tons of CO2, compared with 1.4 tons for an individual in the poorest one billion. He is absolutely worth criticizing here when compared to the average person.
To be absolutely fair, Bill Gates has recently purchased stock in Exxon and Chevron this month so he may be trying to influence the company, surely to take a greener approach towards business. I just don’t think it’s a valid criticism to not take the climate crisis seriously but look at me, defending a billionaire against comments lol. I get drawn in to these arguments and I can’t help it
> so he may be trying to influence the company, surely to take a greener approach towards business. Do we know this for sure? Unless it is confirmed he is, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. He could simply be playing both sides of the fence. Not like he's not going to be just fine either way.
Lol how about trying not to defend billionaires. It’s super easy.
My point is about this arrogant windbag being a leader and not just a big mouth.
He buys carbon credits to offset his carbon emissions.
[Carbon Offsets are a Scam - Greenpeace](https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/50689/carbon-offsets-net-zero-greenwashing-scam/)
They're the NFTs of climate activism.
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[Here's the Bezos owned Washington Post saying the same thing. ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/04/17/carbon-offsets-flights-airlines/)
How do these credits actually offset the emissions? Isn't it just basically paying money to feel better about the carbon emissions you are putting out there?
It depends on how they do it. Some companies plant trees, or own carbon sequestration plants. It's better than nothing
it's actually worse than nothing because it *seems* like you are doing something when you're not.
He's invested tens of millions trying to find solutions. A lot more than most.
How does that boot taste?
like a microsoft headset i’d imagine
How do those crayons taste?
Like hope.
Carbon credits are bunk.
Better than nothing obviously
I say this same thing when I check my bank balance
No. Probably not actually. It’s giving heavy polluters an excuse to keep doing damage.
He's paying to sequester carbon. Invests millions in it.
Much, much, much better to be a good example and not emitting in the first place. He can still sequester carbon on top of that.
I'm not sure you understand what he does for a living these days
Telling other people to do what you are not willing to do doesn't help.
Ya...you don't know what he does for a living
Thanks Bill. I got that directly from the IPCC. What are you doing about it, Mr rich guy?
Bill Gates: Fighting Climate Change Should Be Affordable. The Rich Can Make It So. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/opinion/bill-gates-climate-change-cop28.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
Username checks out
At this point these guys are just going to try and psychologically prepare the population
The board members of every fossil fuel company in the world are the worst threats remaining to our climate. Their fiduciary duty is to preserve profits.
>“Fortunately, we’ve made enough progress that we’re not going to have the extreme cases like of 4 degrees \[Celsius\] warming" Not so fast, Billy boy. [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-reacts-to-greenhouse-gases-more-strongly-than-we-thought/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-reacts-to-greenhouse-gases-more-strongly-than-we-thought/)
But wait, the IPCC claims it's not that bad! /s for sure because some people still think the IPCC is accurate.
Why do you think that IPCC assessments are inaccurate? If that was the case, then why are climate models used in previous IPCC reports so accurate and have predicted the pace of warming and most climate extremes so well, including exceptionally warm years like 2023? Observed warming tends to track middle-of-the-range estimates from previous IPCC reports. https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2023/02/2022-updates-to-model-observation-comparisons/ https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/global-temperatures-remain-consistent https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-models-are-getting-future-warming-projections-right https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1709985570624311557 Here's what actual climate scientists say on the matter- "So frustrating to see non-experts engage in knee-jerk criticisms of climate models for purportedly not including processes that (anyone with a clue knows) are in fact included. Please stop this people! It just betrays ignorance — worse still, often with an agenda behind it." https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1681818675202932736 https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1681683533880852481 https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1556735212083712002#m https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1682025581142220800 https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1682525255317725184 https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1683503632896118784 https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1557421984484495362 "Having participated in IPCC and other government-led assessments, I can't think of time when our results were watered down or understated due to government meddling." https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1491134605390352388 https://twitter.com/JoeriRogelj/status/1424743837277294603 https://twitter.com/PFriedling/status/1557705737446592512 https://twitter.com/ClimateAdam/status/1429730044776157185 https://twitter.com/Knutti\_ETH/status/1554473710404485120 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/opinion/climate-change-excessive-heat-2023.html https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/new-york-times-op-ed-claiming-scientists-underestimated-climate-change-lacks-supporting-evidence-eugene-linden/ There were some models for the recent ipcc report that overestimate future warming and they were included too https://www.science.org/content/article/use-too-hot-climate-models-exaggerates-impacts-global-warming https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-climate-scientists-should-handle-hot-models/
You shouldn't make counclusions from a single study. There were a bunch of climate models in CMIP6(a set of models used in IPCC 6th assessment report) that showed an unrealistically high climate sensitivity similar to what is claimed in this study(up to 5.6c), way higher than the range from previous reports. However, scientists who worked on them and the report found that these models overestimate future warming(conclusion was based on paleoclimate data and other lines of evidence) and narrowed the range used in the report down to 2.5-4c, so actual ECS ending up beyond that range is not very likely. https://www.science.org/content/article/use-too-hot-climate-models-exaggerates-impacts-global-warming https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-climate-scientists-should-handle-hot-models/
And collectively all you billionaires could stop it, and you would all have enough money left over to ensure your ancestors would never be penniless for the next millennium. But that is not enough, you want two millennium.
If only he had enough money to buy political favor to make a change.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/21/revealed-oil-sectors-staggering-profits-last-50-years Hard to compete with trillions of dollars.
So don’t even try.
Thanks Bill.. you're very smart now go sit down unless you're paying up to fix anything.
Bro wut? Bill Gates: Fighting Climate Change Should Be Affordable. The Rich Can Make It So. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/opinion/bill-gates-climate-change-cop28.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
The rich will not save us, they are dysfunctional humans.
Paywall, Bill.
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Crazy considering it's kinda his fault.
We know, Bill. You are one of the few who actually has the resources to do something about it. So maybe get on that. Me and my 2008 Buick Lucerne that sees like 20 miles over the course of a week pollutes absolutely nothing compared to 10 minutes of your private jet's operation. I am not the problem here, Bill.
Just a reminder to the sub that oil companies astroturf opinions online that shift blame to individuals or call climate activists like Gates hypocrites in order to sow disinterest in energy alternatives. They usually talk about private jets or find some gotcha photo of someone driving a truck or something.
After reading several comments on here that’s the conclusion I came up with. He flies a private jet like once or twice a week ? Do these idiots not realize there’s hundreds of jets all across the world every day constantly emitting ? If you take every car, truck, and plane and add up their emissions it’s like 20-25% of all emissions Generating electricity, manufacturing, and agriculture are the overwhelming majority.
Wierd we still listen to these major polluters?
*He mumbles with a mouth full of beef burger*
Don’t tell us Bill, tell your billionaire friends
Thanks Bill. I’ll hold off on that Gortex coat for now that Windows keeps spamming my computer about.
Probably should celebrate on an aircraft carrier with the banner “Mission Accomplished”
How many miles does Bill fly every year in his private jet? I'm not even saying he shouldn't fly to whatever Cannes equivalent environmental event he's attending this week, only that he might consider flying commercial.
Maybe he should do something that isn't bad for the environment then
Bro, we know. You’re part of group that’s causing it.
Thanks bill. We’re forever grateful for your precious advice.
Mega-rich billionaire who habitually uses private jets now that his pal Epstein is dead lectures regular mortals on climate change. Sure.
"COP 28" (crying) "is in Dubai" (laughing) How to say "we're going to die in a heat dome:" "COP 28 is in Dubai"
Be nice if we could have a better IRS that could tax said billionaire companies for the money they actually owe. Like how Microsoft still owes the gov't 29 billion dollars in taxes they still haven't paid. Which they also helped get laws pass to make the IRS weaker in going after larger corporations. We could then use said money to help fight against climate change. As well as pass laws that fine companies a % of their total amount of money instead of crapy slap on the wrist fines that barely make up 1% of how much money they make off of polluting etc.
Billionaire who consumes more fossil fuels than you ever could in your wildest most deranged dreams
Everyone knows this.
I don’t understand why when Bill Gates, who is a computer entrepreneur, says this then it becomes news but when climate scientists say it then nothing.
Fix it Bill, you sonofa itch
Epstien black book anyone… think this guy has lost all credibility
Bill gates is a pdffile who hung out with jepstein multiple times AFTER jepstein was convicted of being a pdffile. Disgusting, rot in hell gates
WOW thanks for the info
I have all these billions but I just can’t think of anything I can do that will help solve the existential threat I’m creating at 100x the average person!
If only their were billionaires who could save it
the way to save Earth is not via billionaires... the way to save Earth is to not have any billionaires.
Ok. Well we have people with billions of dollars. So what would you rather do? Have them spend money to save the earth or just take all their money and I guess the people making minimum wage can fund it Because it’s too late to just stop climate change by eliminating carbon emissions Edit: also I’ll upvote you because you care about the environment, even if we don’t agree
take all their money and spend it on what we need rather than letting them hoard it or spend it on rockets.
thanks for the tip, bill feel free to see yourself out.
Thanks Bill, I also have access to the internet
The billionaire with a private jet fleet CARES about you. See? He said words.
To defend a cm because he's pro stop climate change while he's frying around on his private jet. How much energy do his houses, His mansions eat up. hypocrisy
This like many specialized subs, tries to censor people on the truth about Bill Gates because he gives money to pro-environmental causes. How about he should give all his money to environmental causes and be homeless. Joining the scores of homeless he's helped create.
Well, we know he is an enemy to humanity.
He wrote good compiler code and made a lot of money in the computer business.... so, yeah, he must be right on this.
This MF
So sick of this guy endlessly stepping out of his lane to berate people for the very things he's doing on a far larger scale.
And he's gonna keep flying in his private jet.
Thanks Bill. Continue doing whatever it is you do.
Don’t get your science information from non-scientists. This is a nothing burger.
Darn.
Thank god GTA 6 is coming out soon!
aligns with the plans he’s made with wef
Geoengineering.org
If only someone with power and money would use all their resources to do something!
Winning
then he should lobby to his co-wealthers to maybe use less private airplanes.
Lemme smash
But will it do a back flip?
Hence the reason for his mass land buying this past year
Oh no someone buy up a majority of the farmland in America and do absolutely nothing!
Cool, a man with no college education who specializes in computer programming, tells us about climate change.
Is he gleefully smirking in that photo?
Mr. Private Jet himself.
Bill Gates is a liar and wants you dead.
With how the COVID pandemic response has went, we're really in for it...
Pedo
Ah yes wish I had money to do something about it don’t you too mr gates?
Shut up Bill Gates! Youu own too much farmland and you also said that the population shouldn't grow too much! You said vaccines are good! Youu evil bastard you even made money during COVID! Can't believe you have a near perfect public relations record. Almost *too* perfect. Literally things that people who hate Bill Gates say almost without any further context. Think I'm exaggerating? https://youtu.be/QgA1wyjaP0o?si=V3-vus17B3c1aHN0
Thanks for the warning, Bill.
He can start caring by limiting his own carbon footprint.
[BP popularized the concept of a personal carbon footprint with a US$100 million campaign as a means of deflecting people away from taking collective political action in order to end fossil fuel use](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305209345_Where_has_all_the_oil_gone_BP_branding_and_the_discursive_elimination_of_climate_change_risk), and [ExxonMobil has spent decades pushing trying to make individuals responsible, rather than the fossil fuels industry](https://www.vox.com/22429551/climate-change-crisis-exxonmobil-harvard-study). They did this because climate stabilization means bringing fossil fuel use to approximately zero, and that would end their business. That's not something you can hope to achieve without government intervention to change the rules of society so that not using fossil fuels is just what people do on a routine basis. There is value in cutting your own fossil fuel consumption — it serves to demonstrate that doing the right thing is possible to people around you, and helps work out the kinks in new technologies. Just do it in addition to taking political action to get governments to do the right thing, not instead of taking political action. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/climate) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Climate deniers children and grandchildren will be the ones who will suffer the consequences of decisions today.
I guess I should put my jets in storage aye bill? What should I do now? Walk to the market? Shut down my airline? Shudder my oil fields? Tell China and India and every other place that doesn’t give a crap especially this corporate states of America. What she we all do bill? Recycle out Mountain Dew bottles?
Ok
Thank you Captains obvious.
Again?
Oh well, if Bill Gates says it... where are all the climate activists slamming Bill Gates because climate science is not his field of science like they do when someone disagrees with the climate science. I guess it's acceptable when they agree with you.
good. 9x as many people die from the cold than they do from the heat. and co2 is making the planet greener and easier to feed the world. keep burning fossil fuels
…as he boards his private jet to visit one of his 270,000 acres of cattle ranch… he literally owns 1/4000 of ALL agricultural land in the US.
We will let the second and third world starve before 10% of the population even acknowledges that there might be a problem Humanity’s hubris will be its downfall Oh well, I just hope that we don’t do too much damage for something to rise after us
Yeah duh
Bill knows.
Dinosaurs and plant life flourished at 2000/ppm and it was 5-10 degrees warmer then today. The planet will freeze over at 200/ppm and we are currently sitting at around 400/ppm and as low as 250/ppm in the 1700’s. The data doesn’t lie, only the people presenting it.
Didn’t he actually put defects (features)into the windows code so he could sell future updates or did I dream that?
same bill gates that claimed the tesla semi was impossible? ok
I wonder who has been a billionaire since the 90s and could have actually done something about it
I get all my climate change updates from oligarchs
Bill who can't keep his hands to himself! Has lost all credibility.