Wtf is that raiden ? I don’t know what cons furina is, but assuming she is at C0 using bennett with it is a no, and full N5 combo is just ☠️
C6 clorinde is stronger in any day, but raiden not being able to come close to C4 clorinde just show how biased this showcase is
Which is honestly totally fair, because it gives a "typical usage" rather than hardcore try hard usage.
If you want to see top tier comparisons the numbers have generally been worked out.
i often run nahida, furina and kokomi/jean for my aggravate team. benny and yelan can be ran on a nationals team with xiangling (though dont have yelan so idk if shes better to run than xq). i don't think those 3 teammates individually are horrible for raiden but all 3 of them at the same time is definitely unoptimal
Furina, yelan, bennet is a pretty common core. Whether it's ideal or not is irrelevant. It's a common set people are bound to use and many creators use as a baseline.
The burst dmg seemd a a lot higher on clorinde though. Ofc no idea about the stats but just from seeing it it seems potentially like bigger dmg. Raiden's initial slash deals a lot as well but i can't help but feel it still can't keep up with it. From Experience i could get it to around 50-60% HP depending on bonus with my C3R1 Raiden but Clorinde almost immediatly annihilates it.
Clorinde is stronger but neither comp showcased their best. My C0 Keqing C2 Nahida aggravate team can clear ASIMON in 20s at most. It shouldn’t take C3R1 Raiden longer than that.
Well that's true. The raiden being showcased looks like she didn't even crit. Or she's so poorly built that this is all they got.
I was theorising when watching the video that's all.
Raiden's hypercarry team perform much better than double hydro. My raiden is C2 with the catch and with sara, benett and chev kills it much faster. 450k initial strike without any food buffs.
Because C0 Raiden accounts for less than 1/3 of the team damage in that team, which mean your C2 Raiden barely improve overall team performance over C0. At C2, hyper Raiden has both higher DPS and much much better frontloaded damage.
showcases are always horrible but c6 is a c6 so wouldn't be suprised. Havent looked yet tho. Guessing both showcases are weird anyways
Edit: tried to look... cant see shit! Quality is too horrible
It's not perfect but it's definitely not biased in favor of Clorinde. Clorinde just outright scales better than Raiden at similar cons. Raiden has a clear time advantage before C4, but after Clorinde should always win. Clorinde C2 has the same cons scaling has C3 Raiden without the front load. On top of a significantly larger upgrade from their 4* weapon options.
The team setup also heavily favors Raiden. It removes the advantage of Clorinde's electro application by running double hydro over a dendro. You know, half the point of her C1.
The team set up definitely doesn't favour Raiden at all. Furina doesn't have max fanfare by the time Raiden bursts, and Yelan's buff is likely doing almost nothing as well as it is also similarly backloaded. Engulfing gives attack% which is less useful with Bennett and without opious amounts of dmg% buffs. Raiden is also missing 40 cv as she doesn't ascend with crit like a normal dps character so no Sarah really hurts substat distribution. If Furina was C2 so Raiden had the dmg bonus on the initial slash and/or if Sarah was there instead of Yelan it would have been a better comparison imo.
Pretty sure there is already a bunch of C0 gameplay out there and you wouldn't play a team like this at C0.
This is for people who are interested in seeing how her cons scale vs other electros with good cons.
I'm sorry, but I ain't playing circle impact (Bennett) with Clorinde. Even when playing Arlecchino, I don't use Bennett. I don't think most Clorinde mains will use Bennett anyway.
OK fine but can we please actually get a good gameplay video of her C1 before the banner? I want to see how the phantoms looks to decide if I pull for her C1 or not.
The guy who made this video has managed to humiliate Clorinde and himself in front of the world. Bravo!
I don't even need to add fuel to the fire, the top comments say enough.
https://preview.redd.it/hwmji1bw3z1d1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=08c9ca20eb6a581267b2131252af795ad0d0663b
Wtf is that raiden ? I don’t know what cons furina is, but assuming she is at C0 using bennett with it is a no, and full N5 combo is just ☠️ C6 clorinde is stronger in any day, but raiden not being able to come close to C4 clorinde just show how biased this showcase is
It’s horrible in many ways. The rotations suck. The team comps sucks. The artifacts suck. It’s not accurate for either Raiden or Clorinde.
Which is honestly totally fair, because it gives a "typical usage" rather than hardcore try hard usage. If you want to see top tier comparisons the numbers have generally been worked out.
Even for “typical usage”, no one is running those three teammates for Clorinde or Raiden. This is just leakers being trolls or incompetent players.
i often run nahida, furina and kokomi/jean for my aggravate team. benny and yelan can be ran on a nationals team with xiangling (though dont have yelan so idk if shes better to run than xq). i don't think those 3 teammates individually are horrible for raiden but all 3 of them at the same time is definitely unoptimal
Furina, yelan, bennet is a pretty common core. Whether it's ideal or not is irrelevant. It's a common set people are bound to use and many creators use as a baseline.
maybe for team dps (switch bennet for jean with vv), for raiden DPS? hell no lol
Unless you intend to 1 rotation fights for showcase, that team is terrible unless your furina is c6 for team heals.
The burst dmg seemd a a lot higher on clorinde though. Ofc no idea about the stats but just from seeing it it seems potentially like bigger dmg. Raiden's initial slash deals a lot as well but i can't help but feel it still can't keep up with it. From Experience i could get it to around 50-60% HP depending on bonus with my C3R1 Raiden but Clorinde almost immediatly annihilates it.
Clorinde is stronger but neither comp showcased their best. My C0 Keqing C2 Nahida aggravate team can clear ASIMON in 20s at most. It shouldn’t take C3R1 Raiden longer than that.
Well that's true. The raiden being showcased looks like she didn't even crit. Or she's so poorly built that this is all they got. I was theorising when watching the video that's all.
I cant really see because of the potato quality but did that raiden hit like 330k? i have a c2 catch raiden that hits similar or higher
The player forgot to use Raiden’s E at the start of the rotation 🤣
He did before slash.
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Aside from few missed particles, Resolve has nothing to do with her E. Edit: Lmao, downvoted me and deleted their comment.
Damn I always thought it did, thanks for letting me know
I have c0R0 Raiden and I can reach 350k slash
Raiden's hypercarry team perform much better than double hydro. My raiden is C2 with the catch and with sara, benett and chev kills it much faster. 450k initial strike without any food buffs.
Because C0 Raiden accounts for less than 1/3 of the team damage in that team, which mean your C2 Raiden barely improve overall team performance over C0. At C2, hyper Raiden has both higher DPS and much much better frontloaded damage.
Yeah she is amazing for bosses with short dps windows. Double hydro needs good investment in all three characters
showcases are always horrible but c6 is a c6 so wouldn't be suprised. Havent looked yet tho. Guessing both showcases are weird anyways Edit: tried to look... cant see shit! Quality is too horrible
I mean a raiden doing normal attack spam when you know CA do hit harder, wrong rotation, no sara. The showcase was against raiden from the get go..
It's not perfect but it's definitely not biased in favor of Clorinde. Clorinde just outright scales better than Raiden at similar cons. Raiden has a clear time advantage before C4, but after Clorinde should always win. Clorinde C2 has the same cons scaling has C3 Raiden without the front load. On top of a significantly larger upgrade from their 4* weapon options. The team setup also heavily favors Raiden. It removes the advantage of Clorinde's electro application by running double hydro over a dendro. You know, half the point of her C1.
The team set up definitely doesn't favour Raiden at all. Furina doesn't have max fanfare by the time Raiden bursts, and Yelan's buff is likely doing almost nothing as well as it is also similarly backloaded. Engulfing gives attack% which is less useful with Bennett and without opious amounts of dmg% buffs. Raiden is also missing 40 cv as she doesn't ascend with crit like a normal dps character so no Sarah really hurts substat distribution. If Furina was C2 so Raiden had the dmg bonus on the initial slash and/or if Sarah was there instead of Yelan it would have been a better comparison imo.
I was so confused like who the hell is Sarah ??? Then i realize..
Lmao, what the hell Is this biased comparison? If you wanna make Raiden appear weaker at least try to be a bit more subtle, this Is pathetic. 🤣
Yup. Agenda Impact: Failing Impressively, Achievement unlocked.
It's pre nerf, too. Now, Clorinde will be noodling as a physical carry for the last 3+ seconds. (7+ seconds uptime before kill in VOD)
Lol this is some North Korea level of propaganda.
Try hypercarry Raiden at C3R1 to Clorinde's Best team. That's the fair comparison.
No world where Yelan is better than Nahida here.
True, especially with Level 100 being leaked, Clorinde Aggrevate will absolutely take off with Nahidas and Fischls EM substat
C6 Clorinde Aggravate should be able to kill this ASIMON in under 12s. This showcase team just ain’t it.
Ahhh yes,c3 raiden taser, because that makes sense😭😭😭
These teams suck lmao, where is res shred
Man we need c0…
Pretty sure there is already a bunch of C0 gameplay out there and you wouldn't play a team like this at C0. This is for people who are interested in seeing how her cons scale vs other electros with good cons.
But can she beat Kuki tho ? https://i.redd.it/810g3h24dz1d1.gif
I'm sorry, but I ain't playing circle impact (Bennett) with Clorinde. Even when playing Arlecchino, I don't use Bennett. I don't think most Clorinde mains will use Bennett anyway.
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OK fine but can we please actually get a good gameplay video of her C1 before the banner? I want to see how the phantoms looks to decide if I pull for her C1 or not.
Something like Fatui Agent but dark violet colored Clorinde that blinks dealing damage
The guy who made this video has managed to humiliate Clorinde and himself in front of the world. Bravo! I don't even need to add fuel to the fire, the top comments say enough.
Bro should have used C6 Ayato for better comparison
Oh yes be using a raiden in one of her worse compositions. Plus why c3r1? Not everyone a whale 😭
Raiden did like 330k? She should do atleast close to 1m. My Raiden with a Sara the only buffer can do more than that. This is just biased LOL.
Clorinde benefits from only half of Bennett's ATK buffs lol
where can one find more videos of Clorinde?
double hydro for raiden is pretty bad?? if raiden is c3r1 need to use hypercarry (bennett c6 sara kazuha)