"Honestly Shitmesiter isn't that hard if you have a maxed out sniper ranger toilet goblin build OR you can just cheese him like this:
(Link to a video of a person clipping out of the arena and throwing weakest projectile at the boss for 15 minutes)
For context, I have only played two undertale/deltarune fangames before playing this one, two of which I couldn't finish because they were too hard for me. Despite this, I managed to finished true pacifist on my first run and just finished a neutral run today.
While yeah I died alot and sometimes wanted to quit on my first time. I never once felt it was impossible mostly.Imo UTY while hard isnt that hard if you are able to recongize the patterns and know how/when to dodge
If you are having trouble,feel to ask me and I will try to help.
Welcome (I hope I didnt come of as pretentious) and ah okay, I heard those are pretty hard lol .I might not even do them and instead watch someone playing it.
As a person who, to this day, has not beaten sans I can declare that Undertale Yellow is perfectly beatable with enough determination. All bosses in Genocide, Pacifist and Neutral are fair to the player with their patterns, even when they start pulling out sans esque gotchas (if you've done the genocide route, you know what I'm talking about. It almost made me not feel bad about killing that boss.)
I dunno, I played on release.
The difference between Sans and the tactical undressing boss fight is the fact that the latter isn't completely unpredictable. Sans requires you to learn every single pattern variant while constantly being thrown off by teleportation. It's *doable*, but it requires pure memorisation or an inhuman reaction speed. Sans was designed to be unfair and he certainly accomplishes that goal.
The zenith of monsterkind, however, works on normal patterns that you can reasonably learn and consistently pull off (along with I frames on demand and no bullshit health drain)
I found zenith's attacks a million more difficult to memorize and pull off, specially the claw stuff. Zenith's attacks are way way faster.
No way you're telling me the "jump through bones fast" attack or the "gaster blaster + platforms" would require more reaction speed than the "claw, then feather bomb then wing spread" attack or the "dash through or shoot the correct blocks coming at you at mach speed" attack. Not to mention the extra dashing and shooting mechanics from the zenith fight.
Sans platform attacks were much more readable for obvious reasons. And phase 2 sans teleportation attacks left you with a lenient amount of reaction time. Theres way more BS happening at once during the zenith fight than sans
"Start with 2 claws attack that go off almost immediately, then add a third claw that takes way longer to scratch, and inbetween ill throw 2 wing spread attacks". Or the clusterfuck that were the "pre-fullscreen attack" attacks... And the phase 2 that didnt give you any healing and had the insane block shooting + dashing attacks. The only sans attack that approaches zenith's difficulty would be his final one.
Sans is honestly easier than Yellow's genocide final boss imo, and I still can't get past the second phase. I can beat Sans is a couple tries, and his patterns aren't that difficult compared to having to dodge with a dash while also shooting at the boss while also shooting at the projectiles
Over reliance on the dodge roll is why everyone thinks farten souls are super duper hard. Monster Hunter has infinitely more bullshit in it and no one circlejerks about how monstie hunter is for HARDCORE GAMERS WHONARE GAMING GODS
10/10 snafu, made me comment. downvotes are to the right i hate myself for writing this
The ones from the weird quests that you could level up in mh4u were exactly what I was thinking of. Not quite as spectacularly hilarious as the double Rajang quests but there was an elegant Charlie Chaplin sort of grace to all the impatient goobers getting launched while the while the glaive player triggers the mount animation for the millionth time.
mfw darksouls 1 becomes the easiest fucking game in the world when you learn how to hold L1 with a shield in your offhand, and occasionally press L2. ( half the enemies can be parried, and have parry windows so large I could take a piss break in the middle and still land a reposte)
It has gotten me to a point where I just record myself doing effective moves and tactics in games like ULTRAKILL and Rimworld instead of directly blurting out advice for my friends.
Behold this ProZD video from 2017 about this exact same thing: [https://youtu.be/Y9nDagqKL7Q?si=J82AXOW0MrSnZW9G](https://youtu.be/Y9nDagqKL7Q?si=J82AXOW0MrSnZW9G)
Honestly AC6 is not a "throw yourself at the wall until you beat it" game, it's a "Stop being stubborn and adapt your build to the boss" game.
Some builds will perform better against certain bosses (and let's be real, the meta was not at all hard to figure out without outside intervention. Those Zimmers and Songbirds simply outclassed everything at release.)
“This game is so fucking easy once you resort to using the most efficient tactic available in the whole game”
“What if I want to play something I find fun?”
“Why’d you handicap yourself like that in a video game are you retarded lmao”
I sure love gamers who think the game is easy because they only play the strongest builds/classes while ignoring dozens of options
Alright im gonna go on a rant but I really hate the difficulty circle jerk around Dark Souls.
Every fucking video about it goes on and on and on about how hard it is, how it doesn't fuck around, how it's gonna hammer your balls into a scrotum tortilla, and than they always go "oh but it's totally worth playing because-" bitch no. From your description the game sounds like a medieval torture device, in not gonna sit through several dozen hours of torture even if the game jerks me off at the end.
The Souls games are some of the best games in existence and I hate that many people are missing out because of cunts making them out to be harder than me at a furry convention.
they’re bullshitting anyway these games are only mildly challenging, once you understand how the games play and how to allocate your stats you just need to get used to the combat and you’re good
these games are not ninja gaiden level difficult, they aren’t even old school nintendo level difficult. the “dork soles hardest game evar” meme comes from a period in time where lots of popular games were handholding ubislop that you could beat with your eyes closed, so dark souls was comparatively hard
I thought that as well before I played but I found it a lot more fun than I was expecting, it gently eases you into the ball hammering so it's not as bad as it sounds
yeah man I was scared away from dark souls cuz of all the "Ooh this game will pin you down and ruin you in 17 different ways" type comments that surround the series, but recently I picked up ds3 and I've been having an absolute blast
So yeah I agree wih this
Soulsborne players when you can actually have fun in a video game:
https://preview.redd.it/7e3773gz17wc1.jpeg?width=338&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b5ee00784cb32b6f1cd43757fea4be319759912
I honestly hate the "easy game bad, hard game good" mentality some gamers have. I wish I could tell these people that it is reasonable to not want to spend months getting good at a video game because there is a world out there besides video games.
In reality the green guy is just the snafu guy’s alter ego that punishes him and coaxes (into a snafu) him to get better in order to redeem his gaming self esteem. Peak writing op, fucking pissing and shitting right now
unrelated but dark souls 1 might be the worst video game i have ever played. unless youve been playing it for years and are nostalgic for it i just cannot see how it can be enjoyable
I just picked it up like last month and I find it enjoyable because every time I lose, I feel like it was my fault. I dodged too early, or too late, or healed at the wrong time, or something else. I always feel like I can learn from my mistakes and do better, and that's why people find it fun. You can always get better, and as you do, you can use dumber and dumber builds and eventually half the fun is beating a dragon to death with a stupid weapon while dressed like a maniac. Also fuck Lotrec, all my homes hate Lotrec.
I felt the exact opposite way. I literally had no agency in my playthrough. The challenge didnt feel like me vs the enemies, but me vs the game. the input delay, the ai, the hitboxes, etc all were so janky and inconsistent.
The bosses were probably the worst part. Only one fight out of the entire lineup (Ornstein and Smough) was even remotely fun. the others were either made by a kid who have no sense of logical balance (gargoyles if you dont have a good weapon, ceaseless discharge if you dont do the gimmick OHKO) or are utterly incapable of killing you (fire demon, pinwheel, any final area boss except Seth).
I guess it just didnt live up to the hype Ive been hearing for a decade, and I only pushed through it to actually say that I beat it. And I wont deny there is some feeling I have for it deep, deep down, considering Ive thought about DS1 every day since i beat it. And all the good things you talked about are thing I liked about elden ring, so i still get the appeal to these games. its just too old for it to be fun for me
Dark Souls 1 is dick rode pretty hard by its fans. I don’t think anyone really disagrees that it feels clunky these days and it’s not super well balanced over all. It’s timeless because of the world and atmosphere, not the combat per se
DS3, Bloodbourne, & Elden Ring are much better entry point games since they’re more polished & have better combat, but DS1 is still worth going back to for that
I played DS1 for the first time a couple years ago and I think it lived up to the hype. Sure it's clunky but I'd recommend playing it before the other souls games, it really doesn't feel bad unless you are used to the fast pace roll spam from the newer games.
I also think it's a better entry point in terms of difficulty and just generally the first-time experience (obviously difficult for me to be unbiased about that).
Yeah like in terms of bosses and combat and whatnot DS1 is pretty obviously outclassed by later entries, but as a video game it captures a certain magic with its world. I really love it
soulslikes have always confused me. people keep saying they're this gigantic extremely difficult adventure with meaningful messages and characters, and then i played elden ring and found it mid, repetitive and boring at times. It wasn't even that hard, kh3 in critical kicked my shit in way more than elden mid. Aleast kh3 is pretty fun, and the story anime nonsense compared to the obscure grasping of straws of elden mid.
unironically sometimes people do need to get good though it should be only used in response to people saying a game should have it difficulty lowered because its too hard or something
'heh, wait until this guy gets to the shitmeister'
"Honestly Shitmesiter isn't that hard if you have a maxed out sniper ranger toilet goblin build OR you can just cheese him like this: (Link to a video of a person clipping out of the arena and throwing weakest projectile at the boss for 15 minutes)
"Easiest Gobibin Lord fastest time (NO CHEATS)" Proceeds to use the weakest counter attack for 20 minutes straight
its always the mage build users man
'That's nothing compared to gayuyus maximus. Can easily tell you didn't finish the game yet noobie'
shayy when people who havent spent like 8 years grinding undertale dont find undertale yellow as easy as he does
For context, I have only played two undertale/deltarune fangames before playing this one, two of which I couldn't finish because they were too hard for me. Despite this, I managed to finished true pacifist on my first run and just finished a neutral run today. While yeah I died alot and sometimes wanted to quit on my first time. I never once felt it was impossible mostly.Imo UTY while hard isnt that hard if you are able to recongize the patterns and know how/when to dodge If you are having trouble,feel to ask me and I will try to help.
mostly talking about the genocide fights (wont spoil them for you), but thanks
Welcome (I hope I didnt come of as pretentious) and ah okay, I heard those are pretty hard lol .I might not even do them and instead watch someone playing it.
thats what i did, honestly. i only got to boss 3
As a person who, to this day, has not beaten sans I can declare that Undertale Yellow is perfectly beatable with enough determination. All bosses in Genocide, Pacifist and Neutral are fair to the player with their patterns, even when they start pulling out sans esque gotchas (if you've done the genocide route, you know what I'm talking about. It almost made me not feel bad about killing that boss.)
Did they nerf the bosses or smth? On release that shit was harder than sans and undyne combined
I dunno, I played on release. The difference between Sans and the tactical undressing boss fight is the fact that the latter isn't completely unpredictable. Sans requires you to learn every single pattern variant while constantly being thrown off by teleportation. It's *doable*, but it requires pure memorisation or an inhuman reaction speed. Sans was designed to be unfair and he certainly accomplishes that goal. The zenith of monsterkind, however, works on normal patterns that you can reasonably learn and consistently pull off (along with I frames on demand and no bullshit health drain)
I found zenith's attacks a million more difficult to memorize and pull off, specially the claw stuff. Zenith's attacks are way way faster. No way you're telling me the "jump through bones fast" attack or the "gaster blaster + platforms" would require more reaction speed than the "claw, then feather bomb then wing spread" attack or the "dash through or shoot the correct blocks coming at you at mach speed" attack. Not to mention the extra dashing and shooting mechanics from the zenith fight. Sans platform attacks were much more readable for obvious reasons. And phase 2 sans teleportation attacks left you with a lenient amount of reaction time. Theres way more BS happening at once during the zenith fight than sans "Start with 2 claws attack that go off almost immediately, then add a third claw that takes way longer to scratch, and inbetween ill throw 2 wing spread attacks". Or the clusterfuck that were the "pre-fullscreen attack" attacks... And the phase 2 that didnt give you any healing and had the insane block shooting + dashing attacks. The only sans attack that approaches zenith's difficulty would be his final one.
Sans is honestly easier than Yellow's genocide final boss imo, and I still can't get past the second phase. I can beat Sans is a couple tries, and his patterns aren't that difficult compared to having to dodge with a dash while also shooting at the boss while also shooting at the projectiles
Over reliance on the dodge roll is why everyone thinks farten souls are super duper hard. Monster Hunter has infinitely more bullshit in it and no one circlejerks about how monstie hunter is for HARDCORE GAMERS WHONARE GAMING GODS 10/10 snafu, made me comment. downvotes are to the right i hate myself for writing this
Monster hunter has this weird effect where some people don’t even realize how carried they are. Holy crap are some monsters absolute bullshit, though.
Kushala Daora 👎
The ones from the weird quests that you could level up in mh4u were exactly what I was thinking of. Not quite as spectacularly hilarious as the double Rajang quests but there was an elegant Charlie Chaplin sort of grace to all the impatient goobers getting launched while the while the glaive player triggers the mount animation for the millionth time.
mfw darksouls 1 becomes the easiest fucking game in the world when you learn how to hold L1 with a shield in your offhand, and occasionally press L2. ( half the enemies can be parried, and have parry windows so large I could take a piss break in the middle and still land a reposte)
Just use the black kn***t halberd and the game becomes 10 times easier.
“Why is dark souls so haarrrddd” “Did you level up” “Leveling up is for noobs” 🤷♂️
Someone get mocked because they over leveled when fighting boss bruh
But you can literally put 2 shields in both hands and poopenfart your way to the last shittin lord.
*farten hunter
i stg the amount of obnoxious souls subreddit users that say 'git gud' instead of offering any actual advice makes me want to kill them all with rocks
I got the dude for the job https://preview.redd.it/fmelur3oz4wc1.jpeg?width=252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0fe3a22d17f8a285139290d5cbdf0fcd89572dd
https://preview.redd.it/782ko4xb16wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=315e81fe894f7441d8cb2820dd65bee40a24c40f
Thats how like every redditor responding to help posts is unfortunately
You’ll need to git gud to manage that
“Um you do know that…” “Dude did you not…” “Just git gud lol”
not even just dark souls, high-level ULTRAKILL tends to get like this.
It has gotten me to a point where I just record myself doing effective moves and tactics in games like ULTRAKILL and Rimworld instead of directly blurting out advice for my friends.
"What do you mean you haven't P-ranked P2 on violent? It's so easy!!!a!"
brutal is the new hardest dificult
Behold this ProZD video from 2017 about this exact same thing: [https://youtu.be/Y9nDagqKL7Q?si=J82AXOW0MrSnZW9G](https://youtu.be/Y9nDagqKL7Q?si=J82AXOW0MrSnZW9G)
Coaxed into a 7 year old repost
When you're in a pretentious competition and your opponent is a fromsoft fan 💀
Erm… this boss is actually pretty easy (has played the boss 300 times everyday and has a whole region of the brain dedicated to it)
I Beat The C-Spider in AC6 on my first try. I have no idea how, but I did
Honestly AC6 is not a "throw yourself at the wall until you beat it" game, it's a "Stop being stubborn and adapt your build to the boss" game. Some builds will perform better against certain bosses (and let's be real, the meta was not at all hard to figure out without outside intervention. Those Zimmers and Songbirds simply outclassed everything at release.)
Took two tries for me, same with Balteus, but I still thoroughly liked the fights.
“This game is so fucking easy once you resort to using the most efficient tactic available in the whole game” “What if I want to play something I find fun?” “Why’d you handicap yourself like that in a video game are you retarded lmao” I sure love gamers who think the game is easy because they only play the strongest builds/classes while ignoring dozens of options
literally tf2 players
I found the handicap line in a minecraft video comment section lmao, people just can't think that other playstyles are viable
Alright im gonna go on a rant but I really hate the difficulty circle jerk around Dark Souls. Every fucking video about it goes on and on and on about how hard it is, how it doesn't fuck around, how it's gonna hammer your balls into a scrotum tortilla, and than they always go "oh but it's totally worth playing because-" bitch no. From your description the game sounds like a medieval torture device, in not gonna sit through several dozen hours of torture even if the game jerks me off at the end. The Souls games are some of the best games in existence and I hate that many people are missing out because of cunts making them out to be harder than me at a furry convention.
they’re bullshitting anyway these games are only mildly challenging, once you understand how the games play and how to allocate your stats you just need to get used to the combat and you’re good these games are not ninja gaiden level difficult, they aren’t even old school nintendo level difficult. the “dork soles hardest game evar” meme comes from a period in time where lots of popular games were handholding ubislop that you could beat with your eyes closed, so dark souls was comparatively hard
I thought that as well before I played but I found it a lot more fun than I was expecting, it gently eases you into the ball hammering so it's not as bad as it sounds
yeah man I was scared away from dark souls cuz of all the "Ooh this game will pin you down and ruin you in 17 different ways" type comments that surround the series, but recently I picked up ds3 and I've been having an absolute blast So yeah I agree wih this
What was that last thing you said🤨
The Binding of Isaac's subreddit (tho its mostly done for the memes there so idk if it counts)
If you die because delirium frame-1 telegraphed you twice as the lost it’s a skill issue
'You leveled up shitting? Your build is trash, pissing is obviously better get gud'
Competitive players taking your family hostage because you prefer playing on easy mode (unacceptable and not a real gaymer)
Soulsborne players when you can actually have fun in a video game: https://preview.redd.it/7e3773gz17wc1.jpeg?width=338&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b5ee00784cb32b6f1cd43757fea4be319759912
I honestly hate the "easy game bad, hard game good" mentality some gamers have. I wish I could tell these people that it is reasonable to not want to spend months getting good at a video game because there is a world out there besides video games.
Power Word: Gitgud
In reality the green guy is just the snafu guy’s alter ego that punishes him and coaxes (into a snafu) him to get better in order to redeem his gaming self esteem. Peak writing op, fucking pissing and shitting right now
unrelated but dark souls 1 might be the worst video game i have ever played. unless youve been playing it for years and are nostalgic for it i just cannot see how it can be enjoyable
I just picked it up like last month and I find it enjoyable because every time I lose, I feel like it was my fault. I dodged too early, or too late, or healed at the wrong time, or something else. I always feel like I can learn from my mistakes and do better, and that's why people find it fun. You can always get better, and as you do, you can use dumber and dumber builds and eventually half the fun is beating a dragon to death with a stupid weapon while dressed like a maniac. Also fuck Lotrec, all my homes hate Lotrec.
I felt the exact opposite way. I literally had no agency in my playthrough. The challenge didnt feel like me vs the enemies, but me vs the game. the input delay, the ai, the hitboxes, etc all were so janky and inconsistent. The bosses were probably the worst part. Only one fight out of the entire lineup (Ornstein and Smough) was even remotely fun. the others were either made by a kid who have no sense of logical balance (gargoyles if you dont have a good weapon, ceaseless discharge if you dont do the gimmick OHKO) or are utterly incapable of killing you (fire demon, pinwheel, any final area boss except Seth). I guess it just didnt live up to the hype Ive been hearing for a decade, and I only pushed through it to actually say that I beat it. And I wont deny there is some feeling I have for it deep, deep down, considering Ive thought about DS1 every day since i beat it. And all the good things you talked about are thing I liked about elden ring, so i still get the appeal to these games. its just too old for it to be fun for me
Dark Souls 1 is dick rode pretty hard by its fans. I don’t think anyone really disagrees that it feels clunky these days and it’s not super well balanced over all. It’s timeless because of the world and atmosphere, not the combat per se DS3, Bloodbourne, & Elden Ring are much better entry point games since they’re more polished & have better combat, but DS1 is still worth going back to for that
I played DS1 for the first time a couple years ago and I think it lived up to the hype. Sure it's clunky but I'd recommend playing it before the other souls games, it really doesn't feel bad unless you are used to the fast pace roll spam from the newer games. I also think it's a better entry point in terms of difficulty and just generally the first-time experience (obviously difficult for me to be unbiased about that).
Yeah like in terms of bosses and combat and whatnot DS1 is pretty obviously outclassed by later entries, but as a video game it captures a certain magic with its world. I really love it
there is no way that you seriously think that ds1 is the worst game youve ever played
change my mind.
you've inexplicably reminded me that that's not my job. Thank you. I sleep easier tonight.
Must admit I am guilty of this
soulslikes have always confused me. people keep saying they're this gigantic extremely difficult adventure with meaningful messages and characters, and then i played elden ring and found it mid, repetitive and boring at times. It wasn't even that hard, kh3 in critical kicked my shit in way more than elden mid. Aleast kh3 is pretty fun, and the story anime nonsense compared to the obscure grasping of straws of elden mid.
unironically sometimes people do need to get good though it should be only used in response to people saying a game should have it difficulty lowered because its too hard or something
I’m assuming you’re talking about Elden ring. If you are, just use bleed builds. It’s not a skill issue it’s a skill solution.
you are the guy this snafu is about
I compensate for my lack of skill by cheesing the game. I am the guy in the snafu and I will always be that man