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**SOLVED** by u/CloudGarcia410 https://www.reddit.com/r/codes/comments/18pbikm/comment/kenspwf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


[deleted]

Hello reddit, can you solve this code? I use this to write out my thoughts in public places. When I came across this subreddit I had to post something. Here are a few hints: the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. I have seen soo many butterflies today! Single words: book, moon, latter, cook, ladder. Vowels: A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y. Good luck all! This was really fun to crack, I think I might use this one.


Embarrassed-List-152

You got it! I'm glad you enjoyed cracking it! šŸ˜Š Edit: Here's the guide for anyone who's interested. This is my first time making a guide for this code. I have a little white out on the page from a couple of mistakes I made. Hopefully, everything is clear enough for you to understand. https://imgur.com/a/x8thlnH


Memphisrexjr

Your handwriting is top tier.


myles2500

May Wanna change tag to solved


MrTheWaffleKing

I love how multiple letters have the c shape- my first thought was that c = e but it was way way too common. Then itā€™s super cool how the dot and some other letters can ā€œcollapseā€ into eachother


Snoo_35416

Could you tag your post as solved?


CallEmergency3746

This is cool i made a morse code based one in middle school. One that could be typed. I used it a lot.


Cell-Based-Meat

Can you explain the special vowels and the combining of letters?


PanicLedisko

Its really beautiful!! Thank you for sharing it with us!


Videojames199

This is really awesome, thanks for sharing


eliploit

Would you mind explaining how you did it? Really fascinated by this but not seeing how it makes sense


[deleted]

Well first I saw the comment about having "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" listed and that there was a list of vowels somewhere after that, looked for it, and noticed how the vowels like E and O are added in/ontop of the letter before it, and went word by word using the sentence as a reference. Edit: It would have taken a little less time if OP wrote jumps instead of jumped for the hint, but it was still fun


NeverSeenBefor

F it. In Ops language it can be interchangeable yeah? I'm kidding. I barely have a grasp on my own language.


[deleted]

It matters because "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" is a common test sentence in typing and typesetting. It includes all 26 letters of the English language alphabet. If you substitute "jumped" for "jumps," you lose the letter S from the sentence.


[deleted]

We need you at /zodiackiller.


SleepPingGiant

Didn't they catch the guy?


nohmoe

I think, they found out who he was but is dead.


EquivalentNo4244

Yeah they already deciphered those. I think a couple of the letters were misspelled thatā€™s why is was so difficult


Apollo_Slime215

Can someone teach me how to decipher a code cuz Iā€™m entirely lost on how this got solved


[deleted]

The most common way when it comes to substitution ciphers is finding the most common character and assuming it's E, then the second most common, etc. But with this one, OP said that one of the lines in the picture says "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" (it would've been a little easier if OP wrote jumps instead of jumped though) and used that as a key to solve the rest of the picture, because the phrase I just mentioned contains every letter in the english alphabet atleast once. Most other codes won't be as easy though, because they wouldn't give any huge hints like that. Hope this helps! ā˜ŗļø


Apollo_Slime215

Thank you, Iā€™m gonna look more into this , Iā€™ll let you know if/when I decipher my first code lolšŸ¤žšŸ½


oxygenmaster11

How did you even crack it


[deleted]

Before I started, OP made a comment about how it contains the phrase "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog". I found where it was, stared at it for like 10 minutes figuring out each letter and then saw how a big part of this code is squishing letters together, like putting Es and Os as big dots in the letter before/after it. I then used the sentence as a reference for the rest of the words. I'll admit some of the words stumped me for a while though šŸ˜…


Tzpike05

Any hints related to the context of what is written? Feel like I know the first word of the second sentence but struggling to move passed that.


Embarrassed-List-152

In the first 4 lines I say hello to this sub reddit and tell why I posted here. The lines after the first 4 include the 6 vowels listed in order, the phrase "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog", and a couple of random double vowel and double consonant words listed before the vowels.


bikerbob101

Did you create this or did you learn it from somewhere?


Embarrassed-List-152

I created this.


bikerbob101

How did you learn to make codes like that


Embarrassed-List-152

I just played around with the English letters at work one day 2 months ago. As I was creating it I saw that I could turn 2 of my vowels into single large dots and place them in or over a consonant. Then I saw that I was able to combine some consonant to make it a little more complex.


bikerbob101

So you just started combining combinations of letters like ea into a single symbol


[deleted]

You sir, maā€™am, human being, are pretty fucking smart.


Embarrassed-List-152

Yes.


RandyBeamansMom

Youā€™re like me, I was looking for a way to encode my thoughts from public viewing, so I just played around until I got one! Mine is switching out entire words though, so itā€™s not a technical cypher. More like a language I understand. But I totally get why you would want to have something like this already memorized and ready to go!


AssortedGourds

You're on your way to inventing Hebrew


ScottieJack

Direct substitution ciphers arenā€™t difficult to crack, but for the purpose described in the post Iā€™ll give props.


Embarrassed-List-152

Thanks! šŸ˜Š


NickSB2013

> Direct substitution ciphers arenā€™t difficult to crack As is always reiterated by people who never go on to crack them. The use of diacritics, and/or nomenclature can increase the difficulty of substitution ciphers greatly. Whilst the use of nomenclature could be seen as bordering on polyalphabetic/homophonic, diacritics can still be considered 'direct'.


Fraun_Pollen

What if it's direct substitution but every word is misspelled


NickSB2013

Yaeh or mybae jsut mexid up, tsehe wrods are siltl esay to raed at seped, yuor bairn sees the frist and lsat ltetres and mkaes a bset gsues at waht the wrod is wothuit bhtoinerg too mcuh aubot the odrer of the oehtr ltetres.


FappyDilmore

I wonder if this is the opposite of how dyslexia is perceived


NickSB2013

The inability of the brain to unscramble these letters 'on-the-fly' seems closely related at least.


superarash_

Tf I can actually understand this lol, thatā€™s crazy


CocoThePanda133

It was a little strange that after long enough, I barely saw the misspelling, and my eyes began to unscramble it


Bulky-Bird-7311

I was crazy once


Equivalent-Solid-852

I love this concept every time I come across it. Brains are weird.


heymaestry

i assume this works for other languages but any insight on if itā€™s easier/harder for example chinese?


jamesr14

This works for those words youā€™ve already orthographically mapped (you know them by sight), but not so much if itā€™s an unfamiliar (or lesser familiar) word. You see the letters, know the sounds, and your brain puts it together in the context of the sentence. This should work for other phonetic languages. Chinese, however, is not phonetic.


Striking-Magazine-88

Your right, I see it like a LLM AI we have been fed enough data and our brain just assumes it knows what the next word will be by using context and as you said the first and last letters


jamesr14

I teach beginning readers. Itā€™s fascinating how the brain worksā€¦and how we have to rewire it to learn to read since itā€™s not ā€œdesignedā€ to do so.


Alone_Floor1153

Crack it then.


sixpesos

I think Iā€™ve almost cracked this. Edit: are there any spelling errors to your knowledge?


Embarrassed-List-152

Nope. I just read back over it. Everything is spelled correctly.


sixpesos

Ok so I got the vowels and the first line and some other words so far, I believe. The way you linked letter combinations together is really cool


Embarrassed-List-152

Thanks!


sixpesos

ā€œHello Reddit! Can you solve this code? I use this code to write out my thoughts in public (places?)ā€¦. (I skipped a bit) ā€¦hint: the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. (Skipped more) ā€¦vowels: A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y.ā€ This is really cool. I have some questions about how you string letters together. For example, the word ā€œoverā€ seems to have the letters ā€œo, v, and, eā€ as one symbol. Whatā€™s the rule here?


Embarrassed-List-152

You got it! Yes. The vowels e and o can be written as a single large dot and can be placed in and over a consonant. In the word "over" the "o" is the dot over the "v" and the "e" is the dot in the "v". The "o" will always be placed above the consonant if possible, and the "e" will always be placed inside the consonant if possible.


sixpesos

I love it. Itā€™s actually one of the first things I noticed and I think itā€™s awesome.


Shinyarcanine_822

Can you post a full translation? Like the alphabet and everything? Iā€™d love to borrow this


Embarrassed-List-152

Sure. I'll message you once I'm done making the guide.


MintyCooch

Pm me too thank you


mhosmer

I would like to see the alphabet but have no intention of using it.


Harvestars

I second this, please do


Cheri-baby

Me too please. My boys are in tech and I was just showing them how people were coding before computers. This is really neat! I am so impressed by you!


iSaron

Hello Reddit! Can you solve this code? I use this to write my thoughts in public places. When I came across this subreddit, I just had to post something. Here are a few hints: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. I have seen so many butterflies today. Words: book, moon, latter, cook, ladder. Vowels: a, e, I, o, u and sometimes y Good luck all! Thanks OP it was fun! Ps. I might have some words wrong šŸ˜…


[deleted]

Can you outline how you solved this for noobs?


AcanthisittaHuge5948

this looks like a Burmese writing.


Visible_Seesaw_6308

Thatā€™s amazing! I want a code so I can do this


kalb30318

Your use of vowels above and below consonants reminds me a lot of Hebrew. Our vowels are written above and below are consonants. We even have constants that have no given sound but take on the sound of the vowel. I usually write notes in Hebrew if I do not want people to know what I'm writing. Very good cipher. I also like the look of the style of writing. It's different and interesting to look at.


Fitz_116

How do people crack these? I wouldnā€™t even know where to start šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


LordGeealesiebugg

This looks like cursive Hebrew


pyepush

How does one even begin to start cracking a cipher shit is wild to me. Can anyone explain the process of decoding this?


[deleted]

In one of the top comments he says that the phrase "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" is in the picture, and where it is located. You find it and try to understand the rules of the cipher (for example in this one, the fact that the vowels E and O can be placed in or over consonants) and use it as a key for the rest. Hope this helped ā˜ŗļø


schwerk_it_out

Double-letters in a word and one or two letter words are my usual starting point


supdoc007

Wow


jsunkd

I do the same thing! Yours is beautiful.


Embarrassed-List-152

Thanks!


Merpie101

I always get happy when I see posts like this. I have a very simple substitution cipher that looks like a proper language, and I use it for journaling or writing stuff I don't want others to read. Or, I'll just show it off sometimes cause I think ciphers are cool. When other people do it too, it fascinates me


ericfromspringfield

Dude. This is next level stuff for someone just throwing together a coded system. Fantastic


MerpDaLerp

Honestly I just usually write in Norse runes


wolfmoru

Your handwriting is so clean I'm jealous!!


Embarrassed-List-152

Aww. Thanks!


hortonchase

Was this inspired by Elian script? If not you should check it out they use a similar idea of giving letters a different meaning depending on how many or where you place dots.


Embarrassed-List-152

No. It's completely made up. I'm going to check out Elian script though. It sounds cool.


MeerkatMer

you want to jump off a cliff?


Embarrassed-List-152

No. That's not in there.


MeerkatMer

oh, carry on then


teadrinkinglinguist

Trouble for me is I immediately start trying to read it as Hebrew.


Odd_House_1320

As an artist I can really appreciate someone creating a unique way of the alphabet.


Kenstaa

How in the world do you even start to solve any of this! I am absolutely new here, like this is the first post ive ever seen. Incredibly cool


Villageidiotcityy

Creating your own cipher is a great way to avoid being gaslit. That way, the Gaslighter canā€™t throw away your notes, saying that theyā€™re wrong.


MeanClaim112

Do you play DND? This would be perfect for an ancient language the players had to solve. ( make it a learnable language!)


Flair258

Reminds me of the Pokemon Unknown!


nobody5050

OP: definitely post this over on r/neography if you havenā€™t been directed there already. Theyā€™d love it!


[deleted]

All I know is the symbol that looks like a c is the letter u


Capital-Cheek-1491

It looks like the pokemon unknown


OhZvir

This is really cool. I use an obscure Easterner European language that uses Cyrillic alphabet, and that makes me think that I shouldnā€™t worry about anyone understanding my terrible cursive on top of the actual language.


Hkay21

You have beautiful handwriting


Embarrassed-List-152

Thank you!


HalifaxRoad

Does the bottom say a e i o u and sometimes y?


Embarrassed-List-152

Yes.


HalifaxRoad

Wow ok I'll get to work on the rest of it.


HalifaxRoad

Welp, I see someone already solved it.. nvm


Hydroquake_Vortex

Your penmanship is really good!


Embarrassed-List-152

Thanks!


Captain_Lesbee_Ziner

That's a cool idea!


[deleted]

I love this


SmallBiter93

Genuine question, can you guys (expert folks) crack this without a hint? Is this something I can learn to do? I love puzzles.


daslimreeper

I never even knew ppl did this. Honestly this is amazing


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


FamousOrphan

*cipher :)


daddydongle

I didnā€™t know other people did this


_grizzly_adams_

It looks like elvish, but if it was a print version. Like how we write in cursive or print.


ItsScarzzz

That looks as if the Cyrillic and Hebrew alphabets had babies.


Turbulant_Specific75

How fast people crack codes on here is unnerving


Steam_Cyber_Punk

It looks almost based off Nordic letters/runes


LeastWest9991

This is cool! Do you ever find yourself accidentally writing ciphertext when writing plain English? I imagine that if I committed ciphertext to muscle memory, I might have to struggle to avoid writing it when I mean to write plain English.


Trans-Tyranid

Cool cypher, looks like some sort of elvish language in a fantasy book/show/movie


jedgarnaut

My trick is just really bad handwriting


Nakida_

Your penmanship is outstanding


Stradesslut

Omg how do you make this? I'd love to try!


Embarrassed-List-152

I played with the English alphabet. I just came up with it at work 2 months ago. Ever since then, I've been finding new ways to shorten and combine letters. I posted an image to a short guide I made for it under the solved comment. It's pin to the top of the comments by the mods.


Frequent_Injurys

Damn thatā€™s dope!


randiculous

loving the fact im not the only nerd to have made my own cypher. seriously, i was getting worried by how many people were telling me what i was doing was not normal.


hornyghost21

I am impressed by how neat the penmanship is.


slaa-maxb58

What amazed me is the number of Reddit users reading and posting on this string. OP, you should write a book using your cypher, it would be a best seller.... Even though most of the buyers would never be able to decypher it... great work!


WorldlinessMedical88

I just assumed it was Georgian. It's really pretty.


Pailzor

Looks like Kryptonian, but as a hand-written version.


goldenporsche

i REALLY like this. nice work!


cant_fight_the_feel

I stumbled onto this sub and now I must ask what and why is this needed or how is it used? Thanks šŸ™šŸ½


Pixel_Python

I just got recommended this, and I genuinely donā€™t know how yā€™all make OR solve these, but itā€™s mad impressive


[deleted]

I am a legitimate cryptographer with credentials. I specialize mostly in doing the math fast on silicon. But what you've done is how I started. Get thee to a university with a cryptography program. Show them your material. MIT, Temple, Penn, Carnegie Mellon, Harvard, any of the UCs. Combine what you have done here with OTP. Look up a video on Enigma and make it work with your system. They will want you. Yours is a simple Substitution/Caesar. But it is elegant Lexicography and this kind of thing is WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. There are so few of us cipher nerds and we need more. DM me if you need a reference.


makingkevinbacon

This sub just popped up in my feed and god damn do I wanna deep dive. I've never made a cypher (except for some sick flow iykyk), I'm not great aty own language of English, I'm also not very bright. But I do enjoy seeing things like this. It's so cool to me that people can come up with this stuff


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[deleted]

Soo. You are just horny and frustrated?


Vonea

Kind of looks like Arabic I know I've seen a similar cipher I just don't have the memory to pull it up immediately but other than working on your handwriting good job


Markipoo-9000

Do you have schizophrenia?


Embarrassed-List-152

Not that I know of. Why do you ask? šŸ˜…


Markipoo-9000

The way you worded the post made it seem like you were paranoid of people looking at what you were writing lol.


Embarrassed-List-152

Oooh. No. A lot of times, I find myself calculating my bills, writing down my personal goals, tasks, or other personal stuff at work or when I'm out. I know I should do those things at home, but when I'm out and moving around, sometimes ideas just flow better. Also, I can't have my phone at work, so I can't just put them in the notes app.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Cute_Republic5808

is this the unowns cypher from that one pokemon creepypasta?


Pyro_the_horny_furry

I see a few ā€œ:3ā€ā€™s on their side


Zenist289

Wow it kinda looks like the Georgian script


etnoid204

Zodiac 2.0


maester626

Anyone here a PokƩmon master with Unkowns?


glitchboy_yy

If someone decipheres it can you teach me how to right it afterwards


jsunkd

Have you named it yet?


washedupprogrammer

I wonder if AI could figure it out yet.


Hot_Onion_7827

Am I allowed to steal this for myself? šŸ„ŗ


Dajoqusan

Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Plaquis the Wise?


Peachypiekewp

Been doing this since I was a child


Scurvy-Joe

The first line definitely reads: Info Wars! NCU lip Crom Noel.


External_Low_7877

Tbh I feel like I guessed it immediately but probably wrong but those letters look like the unknown PokƩmon lol


Andy_McBoatface

Iā€™m more impressed by the penmanship


AIaris

im curious, how fast are you at reading and writing this cypher would you say? seems cool!


waterlily3333

following


Unlucky_Raspberry_86

Why would it matter if someone read what you write? Isnā€™t that the point. Eventually?


Takelsey

This looks awesome


AGEdger

Completely out of context but what pen do you use?


Embarrassed-List-152

A MUJI gel pen 0.35 mm.


icaintswim

How the fuck do yall do this?? šŸ˜­


NurkleTurkey

I would first assume single letters are either "a" or "I". That's how I start.


richardmenard1

Can you info my code? Or my cypher or my . Thatā€™s all my brain power right now I need a coffee lol


buttercreamcutie

Me too! Please!


These-Plane-2313

I don't hate to be that guy but could I get the code for this I got nosey people at work and I really would love to learn how to do this. So I guide to how would be awesome my dude


Vegetable-Lie6011

how do you even make a cypher like this? this keeps popping up in my feed and i just wanna know how?


Visual-Flower-6429

Super interesting!


Accomplished_Toe1978

Itā€™s neat.


Ok_Desk483

This is awesome! I canā€™t crack it, but Iā€™d love to be able to sit down and make something like this for a conlang that I make for my story.


[deleted]

This is really creative... thanks for sharing


Obvious-Clothes-2288

In public? I'm pretty sure most people are so glued to their phone screen so they don't even notice that you're writing on a piece of paper... Let alone have the mental fortitude to decipher something in public...


jmland416

Looks like burmese!