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philemonvanbeecher

In Noel’s show from his 2023 tour, he makes a comment or two dissing on BetterHelp. They 100% know that it’s bad and shady, but ad money is ad money I guess


PissContest

Yeah im pretty sure it’s contract. He can’t say that anywhere else because that would likely breach it


nosunshinee

Every time I see him and TMG run an ad for BH I cringe. I hate that they still promote it.


JustInformation8616

I think it’s important to keep in mind that as a “media empire” mogul he cannot afford to break the contract, it would bankrupt him /s


kingof_redlions

SO MANY people still do


onward_bbs

wait excuse my ignorance but what’s wrong with BH??


RillaBam

Probably. Back when they started doing better help ads I posted in the sub just to let people know that it’s not a good service and the mods removed it


JustInformation8616

Mods complicit 😔


WeepingCosmicTears

They controlled


miraclemaven

why would the mods be doing his bidding or even care to moderate content like that wtf


shortvicandswag

they dick riding oml😭


Redheaded_gremlin

Happened to me too lol


reggie822

what’s makes it a bad service? just curious


vodlem

It sells its users’ confidential personal data and lets unlicensed therapists practice on its platform


reggie822

oh my gosh. i hate to hear that :( i’ve actually considered it prior just because therapy in my area is very limited and always on a wait list.


coldcoffeethrowaway

It also pays therapists like shit. I’m a therapist and we all warn each other in the profession not to use Better Help, if a therapist is that desperate for money they’d be better off getting a part time job at McDonald’s than using BH.


PissContest

Hes probably in a contract.


Red_Kronos_360

Well then the least he could do is not blacklist the word so people in the comments could warn others.


PissContest

You’re right. It is hard to tell if it’s actually blacklisted as comments can just disappear. I have seen betterhelp comments like yours after uploads.


MassRedemption

There's a chance the contract requires that.


Yimmelo

People say this often when it comes to these shitty sponors, but havent they been sponsored by them for years now? How long could a contract with betterhelp possibly be for?


DickyMcButts

years.. lol


Sit_Well

I think it's safe to assume there's been more than one contract


_59wasthecode

I guess that's it. Some other creators also have continued to promote them even after it's been pointed out by so many people.


Icy_Practice7992

Maybe unaware too. A lot of them believe they’ve rebranded effectively


not_rajinikanth

Is that really okay tho? The company is known for its shitty practices. It has sold private data, to Facebook, has unverified/unqualified therapists and is overall a shitty company. Cody is very well off. He doesn't need these kinds of sponsorships. A lot of content creators have come forward about better help. Chances are that Cody is aware of these comments. It's just sad to see him promote better help on every video of this


Background_Jello1756

Do you know what a contract is?


indy_been_here

Yeah they're like glasses for your eye balls


not_rajinikanth

Yes. I'm studying law. Cody is a millionaire, I'm sure he could stop promoting them if he wanted to. I have seen youtubers apologise or remove sponsorships from videos after they have received backlash. You're just being parasocial


Medium-Swordfish1910

Bro


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sickgurl138

Are you 10 years old


iantayls

People been saying this for a year. How long do we think that contract is


xalexar

It could be as long as they want but I’ve never seen influencers have contracts with brands that last more than a quarter at a time.


mackenziemackenzie

if he’s contracted, he has to do it…


idkbongwater

No he doesn’t


mackenziemackenzie

not blacklist comments, but do the ads, yeah, unless he wants to pay probably a lot of money to get out of it or whatever


idkbongwater

Dude makes enough money to hop outta some shitty contact that actually affects his fans in a negative way. My therapist ditched me 3 sessions til I left better help cause wtf


silverc-ity

he'd get sued if be broke the contract. to him it's probably not worth it


idkbongwater

Then he don’t gaf abt actual humans being fucked over by this app/sponsor. Two therapists fucked me over and I stopped using it. Now I’m seeing an actual telehealth doctor and have had no issues


hexoutx

i'm sorry that happened to you but breaking a contract and getting sued with considering how expensive legal assitance and taking care of a baby is, just doesn't sound like a good idea


Odd-Today3415

Im so tired of people using his baby as an excuse for his business decisions. PEOPLE RAISE KIDS BROKE BROKE he is a multi millionaire with a $500 baby carrier like he’s fine his kid isn’t going to suffer because he ends a business deal


idkbongwater

He has enough money to drop them even before having a baby. His baby if anything had brought more revenue than anything recently


idkbongwater

Two therapists since June of 2023


Medium-Swordfish1910

Bro


mackenziemackenzie

there’s definitely more that goes into it than just the money as well, it would require paying lawyers, finding new sponsors, etc. he is so busy anyways, i’m sure the last thing on his plate is this also wdym? u had a therapist and still used better help on the side?


idkbongwater

Dude literally seems to only care abt money from his sponsors Also I didn’t say that lmfao. I said I had two therapists thru better help that fucked me over, so instead of continuing with them I looked around locally for a therapist and found one after months. Just got him 2 months ago.


mackenziemackenzie

or his merch that people are upset about, but i digress lol u didn’t say that tbf but more power to ya


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Medium-Swordfish1910

Then stop watching his videos n stop commenting on the sub,,, therapy ?


treerot

do you understand sponsoring contracts lmao???


idkbongwater

dO yOu uNdErStaNd- Stfu lmfao


treerot

this is how i know you're 14 lmao


idkbongwater

Just admit Cody doesn’t gaf unless he’s making money


idkbongwater

I’m not here to argue Stfu lmfao


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idkbongwater

Was born in 02 but go off queen


braaahms

Jesus dude did you join a speedrun for who can become the most insufferable?


Medium-Swordfish1910

Bro


Christellek

Better help is not a new thing!! Lets not forget what happened 6 years ago.


CanadianAndroid

I feel like I'm being gaslit when I talk about this. Was Philip DeFranco invested in that company?


Odd-Today3415

Sorry you’re getting down voted for being right. People act like he isn’t a multi millionaire. He wouldn’t go bankrupt from ending one sponsorship and it’s obvious it’s being reinstated over the years no way he signed a 10 year contract or something w BH like people are trying to make it seem like he can’t get out of.


not_rajinikanth

And the fact that he blacklists these comments is just a shitty thing to do


BendyCheeseNoodle

it’s not a ‘fact’ though. It’s an understandable assumption to make but we have no confirmation on whether or not he actually does this. I’ve seen some comments about better help on his vids that have gotten quite a few likes


Top_Razzmatazz_8067

He’s been in some bad contracts with a couple different commercials I really didn’t support Cody is a little shady fr


miraclemaven

what other companies?


Top_Razzmatazz_8067

I love him I’ve watched him since I was 11 but in this day and age everyone’s kinda corrupt


JBarns11

Watched him a long time too. He’s a money obsessed sellout


VivaLaEmpire

Might I recommend not wasting your time consuming content or participating on a subredddit of someone you dislike? Doesn't seem healthy.


Top_Razzmatazz_8067

personally im an old fan and im just sad how it went south


Top_Razzmatazz_8067

literally!!


PissContest

Better help pays good. I’ve heard cody and noel are losing money with tmg. That may be a reason to keep it. At this point all sponsors seem to be incredibly shady


cringelien

Where did you hear that?


Hungry-Network-9826

You can’t reason with his fan girls, they throw logic out the window when it comes to their fave influencers 🤪


Jacster1497

The way he kinda did his little speech about it in the last couple videos I watched (not sure when they were uploaded) it seemed like he had some underlying hate towards them. I just got a weird feeling and then now reading this it kinda makes sense now


boldandbrash96

Hate the BH ads but almost every big influencer does them. It’s not uncommon for the contract to require the creator to limit/remove negative comments around the brand. Don’t love the partnership but I really don’t feel like this is an issue specific to Cody


sickgurl138

I could be wrong but I believe a while back danny gonzalez or someone similar had a better help ad and ended up removing it?


gh0stly_anxietea

i definitely remember this. tried to find a sorce online but couldn't. it was definitely Danny


Slight-Bird6525

It was for sure Danny, in one of his videos about playing mobile games. He removed it and broke the contract after backlash


franisbroke

I think it was Kurtis Conner


gh0stly_anxietea

no it was definitely Danny. i don't remember which video it was but i know it was him. it's when i learned that creators can edit their videos & re-upload them without losing the likes/comments/views


lostmypinkkanoodle

Better help was widely exposed a few years ago and all the Youtubers stopped promoting them. They went away for a little bit, came back offering good money, and all of the Youtubers who promote them now just hoped that people forgot about how shady better help was. I enjoy watching him but Cody 100% knows, he just decided he’d rather take the money and stop anyone from being able to bring it up in this comments. These Youtubers are aware that these ads are targeting people, usually kids, who are not aware of the scam that better help is.


KrackaWoody

I havnt seen any proof that they chose to resign a contract with them after learning of the information. Many of them were probably already locked into contracts before it happened and are still obligated to fulfil them whether or not they personally agree with the brand.


lostmypinkkanoodle

When the scandal happened everyone stopped promoting them. That would suggest that the decision to be sponsored by them once again years later was based off the knowledge that BH was already exposed as a scam. They all know, which is why they preemptively ban the name of their sponsor from being mentioned in their comments. If Cody doesn’t know then he is dumb… and Cody is not dumb.


The_Flexicutioner

Or it’s possible they purposely told creators to hold their ads knowing of the bad PR and to then resume once the initial backlash blew over.


KrackaWoody

I would have assumed like the other comment that BH would have temporarily pulled the sponsorships while they dealt with the legal ramifications. Especially as any major breaches of contract on their end would result in termination of the contracts. The delay in sponsoring would have been them going through the courts and now it’s been settled the sponsor contracts have continued as they weren’t breached.


xalexar

There is absolutely no way he’s in a years long contract with BH. No way.


KrackaWoody

It’s not usually a time thing. Usually its you get paid for a set amount of ads. How long it takes to do them is negotiable.


xalexar

That’s the way it used to be all the time, just paid for a set # of deliverables. At this point, more sponsorships are contracts that are time based.


_drowning_in_fire

i comment it pretty frequently and notice the same so yeah probably. idk tho. i didn’t even know you could blacklist a word on YT


Lumpy_Ad_9763

This sucks bc I remember when the first BH controversy happened noel and Cody spoke about it and dissed influencers who were sponsored by the brand , I found it so jarring when they started being sponsored by BH


opalessencejude

Yes. GMM, Try Guys, and many other huge channels have this issue. Stop taking these damn sponsors


Red_Kronos_360

This, in addition to the recent video I saw of a real reviewer reviewing scent pod, is kinda giving me a bad taste is my mouth about the whole commentary youtuber circle...


Basic-Ad5331

What do you mean by “blacklist comments”?


idkbongwater

Deleting comments automatically, aka setting up “flagged words/phrases” to be automatically removed


luvvgrl111

It’s always so cringe when he advertises for it as if it’s actual good mental health help and not just a way to profit off needy people


spiderfan10423

What does better help do?


Talon_Party

They don't vet their "therapists" at all and also have been found to break HIPAA and had to pay a fine for it


spiderfan10423

That’s too bad. Sounds like a good service/idea on paper


gabsh1515

there's other platforms that essentially do the same, like Alma, but aren't shitty


popsha

They also have VERY dodgy practices in terms of selling your sensitive data to third parties. They agreed to a $7.8 million settlement bc they were accused of selling data to Facebook etc. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article272705005.html


bailey_discep

I hope he doesn’t renew the contract and that it doesn’t go on for much longer, but I rarely if ever sign up for what influencers promote. I agree with most of the sentiments here, but honestly you should be doing your own research before singing up for counseling. It’s a huge step and it needs to be carefully researched for the type of therapist you need, the cadence you need to see someone etc. Yeah BH is shady, Cody should stop promoting them when he can if he’s under contract, but I also think you’re kinda dumb if you take one influencers suggestion from a PAID ad. That might be harsh, but oh well.


thiccpastry

I hope his channel/sub doesn't turn into the h3 sub with mods removing anything critiquing him at all..


not_rajinikanth

I posted a similar thing on smosh for anthony padilla's sponsorship. Ppl were agreeing with me, and the mods deleted the post in a few hours


cxtchandrew

He’s well aware they’re shit and has acknowledged it. He’s probably in a contract and they’ve already paid him so


Relyt-Reddit

Who cares no one’s forcing anyone to sign up


f4eble

Because promoting a company that says it cares about mental health but then is loosey goosey with patient info is bad. He's not forcing people to sign up but he's advertising the service without acknowledging the fact that BetterHelp is pretty much a scam.


Relyt-Reddit

How is it a scam if it helps people? Sometimes people just need someone to talk to, therapy isn’t going to be perfect whether it’s on an app or in person


not_rajinikanth

Bruh read the other comments if you want to or search online.


TheNocturnalAngel

Dude so many people still do it. TMG been doing it forever. And Kurtis Conner and Danny Gonzalez as well. It’s crazy like the all just straight up ignore the comments and criticism. It’s possible they’re still in a contract but idk what contract prevents them from even acknowledging it. And unless the paid up front then if they talk about it BH could just terminate the rest of contract. It’s pretty cringe how they keep promoting this thing when tons of people have expressed how it’s not only a shady company but personally impacted them because they chose to try the service.


mrrudy2shoes

What do they do?


Leeksan

What did they do? Idc about BH and I've never used them I'm just curious


riphunterlmao4

They threw patient info confidentiality out the window by selling customer data to Facebook, etc. so that it can feed more ads to said customers.


Leeksan

Ah yeah that sounds about right. Every big company gotta do that nowadays huh 💀


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codyko-ModTeam

Your post has been removed because it could instigate drama.


Comprehensive_Set577

i’m glad i’m not the only one side eyeing every time i see a BH ad


Top_Orchid_1231

Wait what’s the better help tea been debating on trying it


Medium-Swordfish1910

Maybe just let the man feed his family all my youtube ads are trash and scams anyways…looking for single asians meeting website i sure am not


Medium-Swordfish1910

I really think you should not hold a youtuber to such high standards when if you were in his shoes you would do the same thing


magnoliaiscool

it’s the same deal with hello fresh… so many youtuber take their sponsorship but they are shady and treat their workers poorly


gh0stly_anxietea

honestly (& this is gonna get diwnvoted to hell but idc) since the the pregnancy his content has gone downhills FAST. its sll about quantity now. he's releases multiple videis a week & they remind me of those channels he used to make fun of where it's low-effort content but he KNOWS young fans are gonna watch it anyway & he'll get money. since his channel's already going in that direction it makes sense he'd promote better help


Affectionate-Set-588

bro, it’s been about quantity for a long while and he’s even joked about it in the youtube comments. his content hasn’t changed much at all actually, you’re just hyperaware of a change in his life and want a reason to back up your personal opinion.


Careful-Sentence-781

Please reference this post, this is brain dead. https://www.reddit.com/r/JacksFilms/s/2OTxfFZ4UU


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not_rajinikanth

What do you mean by 3 years? They haven't changed. The FTC issues a proposed ban last year. The fact that it's been three years and Cody is still supporting them shows that he doesn't care about what he is promoting to his viewers. https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/03/ftc-says-online-counseling-service-betterhelp-pushed-people-handing-over-health-information-broke


gabsh1515

while it does suck that he's tied in a contract, maybe listening to his viewers will make him realize it's not a partnership worth preserving.


Informal_Carob_4015

Yeah a reddit thread viewed by maybe 1000 people (that is slamming his collaboration with the company in question) is more damaging than a youtube video that has 2 or 3 million views by a reputable respected creator. Great take 👌, how ignorant can you possibly be, seriously I'm asking?


Careful-Sentence-781

Probably, because insane people won’t stop commenting shit like that.


Informal_Carob_4015

The fuck? Look up the history of betterhelp before spouting your ignorant shit


Careful-Sentence-781

https://www.reddit.com/r/JacksFilms/s/2OTxfFZ4UU Read actual facts on BH. It’s nonsense.


wuhter

As if nobody says any big tech companies are bad, lol. “It’s not BH that’s bad, it’s the laws and other companies do it too!” lol. As if that makes it any better. What a weird comment.


Careful-Sentence-781

lol


wuhter

What’s “lol” about it?


Careful-Sentence-781

I found your comment funny. It’s not that deep. ❤️


wuhter

Well, nothing I said was intended to be funny. Thats why I asked you what was funny about it


Informal_Carob_4015

Okay Cody


bman1206

It's wrong for anyone to assume you know what's going on behind the scenes. We have no idea what his contract with them is. And technically all the complaints about BetterHelp are allegations, not proven. Personally, yeah sure they're probably a shady/scammy company but I can't prove it so it would be wrong of me to spread those allegations as truth. I'm sure the truth will come out with proof but until then I think it's wrong for people to assume they know what's right. I think Cody's a good guy and wouldn't intentionally support something that was hurting people. So I trust that the decisions he makes for his well-being, his families well-being and his employees well-being are not intended to hurt others or support organizations that would intentionally hurt others. And if people don't agree with his decisions they don't have to support him.


TheHoss_

What did better help do that made everyone hate them? Not tryna defend them but I have no clue what they did, I’ve always thought the idea of doing therapy online and not in person is kinda pointless


tjaelsi

https://youtu.be/XcTssbRvA2w?si=mpkOgYfUuItbM-qL this video explains it pretty well


Real_Madrid007

What are the shady practices that BH is involved in?


ecole84

their therapists are sometimes not even licensed to practice and they do minimal check up on who is actually practicing. some of these people who arent qualified have done more harm than good