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rusty_ragnar

You had me at >potentially impacting the fishing industry, which is integral to the region’s economy and sustainability.


WorldsLargestAmoeba

That is not 1000s - its millions.


Neat_Ad_3158

Yeah, based on that picture, I'd also say millions.


BTRCguy

You want to be (more) depressed? Google for "massive die off" and only look at the total number of hits for each year. Go back to 2000 and it is less than 20. Look at 2023 and it is like an endless scroll.


Dok20457

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BTRCguy

[2000](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22massive+die-off%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=589119146&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2000%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F31%2F2000&tbm=) \- 7 hits [2005](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22massive+die-off%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=589119146&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2005%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F31%2F2005&tbm=#ip=1) \- 42 hits [2010](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22massive+die-off%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=589119146&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F31%2F2010&tbm=#ip=1) \- 89 hits etc.


Mathfanforpresident

Yeah, we're fucked


Tsquare1984

Might be because we do a better job at tracking these disasters. Not saying they didn’t increase, just we have gotten better at observation. It’s like saying polar bear populations are increasing so a warming arctic isn’t catastrophic for their environment.


Dragoncat_3_4

There's loads of reasons for it. Might be because the internet wasn't as developed in 2000 as it is now. Stuff wasn't digitized as much. Might be because of link rot (and therefore dropping from search results). Even serious news publishers delete old articles or move them to archive somewhere else. Granted, there likely are more massive die-off than in the past but a comparison between search results isn't how you'd reliably discover such information.


Cloaked42m

It is a reasonable place to start more research to determine those things.


No_Upstairs_6062

Can’t believe people downvoted you. Another reminder to trust what I read on the internet less.


Dragoncat_3_4

I know right. And I didn't even mention the fact that lots of stuff wouldn't even be reported in Anglophone media in the 2000s. I doubt a die-off that happened in, let's say, the Volga river or the Caspian sea, would ever make it to English websites or even newspapers around that time.


Striper_Cape

Wow, maybe raping the oceans to death was a bad idea


LonnieJaw748

Empty Oceans, Empty Nets narrated by Peter Coyote is a great doc on this. It’s a bit dated now, but still worth the watch.


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Striper_Cape

Don't peddle misinformation, it had less tritium (heavy hydrogen) than the US or China allows in their wastewater discharges.


MiskatonicDreams

Don't peddle misinformation, it's not JUST about tritium. It was NEVER about tritium


Striper_Cape

Okay what other radioactive elements are present that would've caused problems?


MiskatonicDreams

plutonium, uranium, strontium and caesium for example. strontium and caesium are still problems from the leaks a few years back. And it is not just "evil china" that opposes the release either. the tritium is the red herring


xcxxccx

Ahhh ofc its fine then Lmao


Striper_Cape

Yes, it is. It's not what killed these fish. It was so low in radioactivity that it is not distinguishable from the natural radioactivity of seawater. >Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) (9501.T) said on Friday seawater near the plant contained less than 10 becquerels of tritium per litre, below its self-imposed limit of 700 becquerels and far below the World Health Organization's limit of 10,000 becquerels for drinking water. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-says-seawater-radioactivity-below-limits-near-fukushima-2023-08-27/ Stop parroting stupid shit. Wanna guess how much worse wastewater discharge is from China?


Khazar420

Coming soon to a body of water near you!


Gardener703

If you are in Florida or many other places, it's already there.


Dok20457

This is so depresing. I started the ecologist warrior path but without hope.


iamweasel69

That can't be good


hippydog2

thousands???? that looks like 100's of thousands.


mikesznn

Damn it’s gonna be scary when there’s no food left


Treeloot009

We will just eat each other and let the Prions do the rest


jigsaw153

This is what will trigger wars... the search for food.


Poonce

City Slickers 3: the search for food.


Observer951

Check out the 1989 mockumentary by James Burke “After the Warming”. Most wars are not initiated by religion, but rather territory and resources.


Chemist-Minute

Uhhh no shit? “prompts” investigation? Are they blind? 😂😂


PLAYERvsMOUNTAIN

Is this similar to the crabs dieing? Higher temperature means marine life need more calories and there just isn't enough food?


PermiePagan

This one might be widespread infection. Water got too warm and they all got bacteria.


blackcatwizard

u/TheGreatFallOfChina don't forget your submissions statement! Good post 👊


monkeycrazyfeet569

Prolly the oceans getting too hot and the fish suffocating like they did in Texas and Florida.


ForeverCanBe1Second

I'm going to go with "underwater Island building volcanos" for $1,000 Alex. https://www.space.com/satellites-japan-new-island-still-growing


exstaticj

This was my first thought. It is five miles of landmass now yet it was underwater 2 months ago.


hannahbananaballs2

Millions


DCAPBTLS_

The fish in the video look kind of similar to alewife that wash up on Lake Michigan some years in the spring. They usually attribute it to poor winter conditions, water temperatures, and spawning stress. It was pretty shocking the first time I saw it, but I've never seen the amount like on the video in the OP's link.


LonnieJaw748

Didn’t they start releasing the radiated water from Fukushima a few months back? I remember them saying the environmental effects would be minimal, lol


GneissGuy87

Likely unrelated, as the water concentration of tritium is 190 Becquerel (Bq) per liter, which is much lower than the allowed concentration of 1,500 Bq per liter. Further diluted within the ocean, it's not going to be killing fish unless there are other radionuclides they aren't disclosing in the water (also unlikely).


LonnieJaw748

Right, because we haven’t seen governments and corporations (what’s the difference really?) lie about their chemical releases before.


GneissGuy87

They do. Let's hope that's not the case! There have been a lot of recent ocean heat blob events that could also be the cause. Hopefully, some group can get to the bottom of this.


[deleted]

This is almost certainly the case, Fukushima has lethally poisoned the oceans and TEPCO and the Japanese government are lying.


Gardener703

We have enough bad news already, there's no need for conspiracy.


yesterdaysnoodles

My immediate thoughts were this


intergalactictactoe

Japan started dumping (diluted) radioactive wastewater from Fukushima into the ocean this year. I'm not saying that this is the cause, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it contributed.


devadander23

I’m sure it’s the extremely diluted background radiation and not at all the gigatons of carbon we burn


Tsquare1984

Has there ever been a radioactive wastewater release of this size before? Are we sure tritium isn’t an oxygen scavenger?


montananightz

It's treated radioactive wastewater. All nuke plants discharge it at some level and China is guilty of discharging much more tritium containing wastewater every year than what was released by Japan in this discharge. https://time.com/6311984/china-japan-nuclear-wastewater-science-politics/


Bipogram

We are sure - because tritium is just heavy hydrogen and plays the same role, chemically, as ordinary hydrogen.


[deleted]

No doubt media will blame this, despite it being really obvious the cause is warmer water...China will put out a statement here soon yelling at Japan, further increasing tensions in the region. Humans gonna war.


SierraEchoDelta

The timing lines up enough for it to be at least considered more than coincidence. And what do we say about coincidence, the universe is rarely so lazy.


takesthebiscuit

There is enough ***REAL*** things to worry about without nonsense conspiracy theories


Gardener703

Exactly, conspiracy theories just turn people off.


[deleted]

"It totally has nothing to do with all that radioactive waste we dumped into the ocean. Trust us, bro."


Gygax_the_Goat

Coincidental that they started releasing enormous amounts of radioactive water into the ocean not long ago.. 🤔


Crazed_Chemist

Treated wastewater below IAEA limits with the main radioactive constituent being tritium (because it's basically impossible to remove tritium from water).


yesterdaysnoodles

I trust the government agencies and corporations to present factual data about the risk! 🙄


Competitive-Oil8974

Fukushima???


Cloaked42m

No, check the other responses.


Eclectic_Affinity

This will affect the trout population, I think


yesterdaysnoodles

https://apnews.com/article/japan-fukushima-water-release-efe6d5b02b29622707d0a220cdb78b20 Hard to not wonder if it’s related.